UPDATE: Samsung have addressed the issues with HDR gaming in firmware 1007.3 which is now public. We still have some issues with how Samsung has handled quality control for this product and there are lingering problems (see here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aohr0tGgf8q5j7A.html ) however we can tentatively recommend the Neo G9 again

@noelnarayan6135

2 жыл бұрын

Will there be an updated section of hdr brightness with the new firmware?

@tchlin

2 жыл бұрын

@Popescu Daniel I have been tinkering with the new firmware. Monitor is awesome now.

@ChristianCRG

2 жыл бұрын

@@noelnarayan6135 you can change it on nvidia panel, hdr brightness is supposed to be low:) thats how hdr works

@noelnarayan6135

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChristianCRG hdr is brightness is suppose to be low? Why on earth do they produce high brightness HDR monitors?

@-effectoff

2 жыл бұрын

hrd very acidic picture\I do not like

I appreciate Samsung’s comparably simple monitor names

@PCMonitors

2 жыл бұрын

That's just its nickname. The actual model code is S49AG95N or LS49AG95 with various additional numbers and letters depending on region. 😉

@TimSheehan

2 жыл бұрын

@@PCMonitors Most products have a more complicated model code, that's not the point. We're talking about it's name.

@mercurio822

2 жыл бұрын

i got the old g7 1st gen of Qled, HDR 6 with 6 dimming zones, it doesnt do HDR well... but regular gaming is great for a VA. the colors and contrast and black levels are amazing to me still. i havent yet tried an Oled monitor or TV, im going to wait for the tech to mature, in 2025 im planning on uppgrading to a high end OLED or micro led 32 ish gaming monitor.

@pedrosoares7273

2 жыл бұрын

There is a lot of things I apreciate about samsungs new gaming monitors. First, the response times are very well suited for adaptive sync. Second, the pricing is not outrageous. Third, they are really innovating here. I'm going to be on the lookout for a cheaper 500$ ish monitor mini led monitor, and Samsung will be the first place to look. They are genuinely caring about the enthusiast.

@tazboy1934

2 жыл бұрын

@@mercurio822 mini led

"Generated a lot of buzz in the gaming community." Presumably before seeing the price? That sure was the buzz kill for me! :D

@rasmusolesen5307

2 жыл бұрын

You need a GPU in the same price range to actually make use of that resolution, so I don't think it would bother the intended audience.

@alfredortiz5995

2 жыл бұрын

one week of wages well worth it

@mauricio2456

2 жыл бұрын

@@alfredortiz5995 if you make 10.000 dollars a month, kudos to you

@XeqtrM1

2 жыл бұрын

The price is fine so I might get it

@johnathanpearson3203

2 жыл бұрын

Ha ha. Still can't compete with a CRT monitor 😀😀😀👍

Dude, I watch *a lot* of tech content and your monitor reviews are, bar none, the absolute pinnacle. I appreciate what you do for the community.

I have really been looking forward to your review. Thank you very much.

They need to make a "neo" version of the G7.

@petteriotava8558

2 жыл бұрын

they did its 4k 144hz

@girugamesshu986

2 жыл бұрын

32" or 37", 4k with the same number of dimming zones, 16:9 und flat panel. Thats what I'm waiting for.

@Venomx-nb1jr

2 жыл бұрын

@@petteriotava8558 its a g5 not a g7. g5 caps out at 144 hz

@jamesross4593

2 жыл бұрын

@@Venomx-nb1jr No, it is a new G7, not a G5. The model number is S28AG70. It's 28"4K 144Hz.

@weewoo7802

2 жыл бұрын

@@Venomx-nb1jr Nope the G5 is 1440p 165Hz while the new G7 is 4K 144Hz

Now I can see every strand of that moustache in HDR and mini led quad hd and 240hz for the last time before it gets shaved (for a great reason btw)

I will one day understand these graphs. Thanks for the review Tim.

Please always send emails explaining these issues to the manufacturer, there is a lot of useful insight in your reviews

Monitors at these extreme widths make Windows 11’s centered task bar and middle monitor zone that much more important.

Hey,i am a romanian fan,just wanted to let you know that i watch your reviews of stuff that i can afford,especially gpus but not only,because you are very professional but also laid back,relaxed and friendly type of guys and are making it seem like pc building it still fun,even if a gpu apocalypse is going on which is a characteristic that is very nice indeed in these times!

been hoping for a G9 review from you for a long time. that its the new model is even better!

The most detailed and thorough review I have ever seen in my life. Great Job

Finally! I've been waiting for this

@Mashburn007

2 жыл бұрын

You buying this bruhh?

you totally confirm what I showed in my Videos :) Awesome, so now we know why the blooming is less of an issue here!

Ordered the Neo G9 last week. Must have watched this and the updated video over 20 times trying to decide if I should pull the trigger. It is scheduled to arrive tomorrow. Fingers crossed I get a good panel!

I'm excited for this tech when it trickles down to less expensive products next year.

@Skylancer727

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think it will for at least another 5 years. Placing that many more LEDs and making software and hardware to control them individually will never be cheap. It's just the issue with complexity where it will come down in price but never be cheap. We will more be waiting for things like QNED if you want cheap with similar qualities.

@vVaIker

2 жыл бұрын

The display industry doesn't improve that fast. A monitor similar to this would cost close to 50% of its current price five years from now, if history is to be considered. Don't expect technology of this caliber on below 1000 usd displays before 2026!

@mryellow6918

2 жыл бұрын

Look at how long it's already take for hdr to trickle down

@xgunnas32

2 жыл бұрын

it's priced right between the 35vq at 1999 and the 32uqx at 2999, i think at these prices just get the g9 if curved and uqx if ips/flat. The 35vq definitely needs to drop in price.

@dynastes4938

2 жыл бұрын

This kind of LCD will never reach midrange pricing (talking around 500 dollars) in my opinion. In a few years time these things will be replaced by microLED-panels, which will then have a chance to become more commonplace over time and therefore eventually be affordable. These will not be ordinary LCDs anymore, though. You can see what happens with last years FALD displays once that they are succeeded (even though there are no direct successors, look at X35 / PG35V for example) - production simply seizes and you cannot get them anymore. They are simply too expensive to make and have too narrow an audience to be sold at lowered prices.

Great review. It has been helpful in choosing between it and LG's C1.

Holy moley! WHat a review!!! That was so in depth i feel like my brain imploded!

Hoping we see the new G7 & G5 as well, as the old G7 was my go-to buy for my next monitor, but the curved panel was always an issue, glad I didn't pull the trigger yet!

Finally, a proper fucking review of the G9

@presjar4016

2 жыл бұрын

You don't like F1 sim?

Nice review! I wish you had explored the Picture by Picture mode performance a bit because of the unique form factor of this screen.

Very thorough review guys! I think maybe I will just stick with my PG35VQ 😎

Fantastic monitor. Let's see if we can get more budget Mini Led Monitors soon. I also like the way Samsung handled response times over the refresh range. It's too expensive for me but I don't think it's bad value for what you're getting here, there really isn't anything like it.

I use the current version for professional (3D animation and video editing) and recreational reasons (mostly FPS games). For me this setup works perfect, whilst the halo due to the insufficient diming zones seems negligible. At least this is not justifying spending an extra of 1.000€. Yes you have read this right in Germany you can get the current G9 model for about 1.300€ whilst the Neo G9 is listed at arround 2.300€ which is rediculous for such a small update.

Have mine on pre-order... can't wait for it to show up. Had to upgrade my desk for it lol

I'm so wanting a high quality HDR gaming monitor. I'm saving up and waiting lol. Another great vid buddy 👍

This is way too wide for most game, but perfect for racing and flight sims. Sad thing is I am into both, guess I will just salivate at the monitor, knowing it will be years before price drop enough.

@Gamerzguy2468

2 жыл бұрын

21:9 is the best middle ground. 32:9 isn't for me either but I love my 21:9. I'm hoping for a true 4k ultrawide 21:9 to come with specs like this neo G9.

@b1gd312

2 жыл бұрын

A friend has a CRG9 and loves it for all games..

@dynastes4938

2 жыл бұрын

The only genre I would (mostly) not use this for is real-time strategy / MOBA, to be honest. If those games are not specifically geared towards 32:9, the minimap will be too far off to the corners, which will impact playability by quite a large margin. Even that disadvantage vanishes, though, as soon as the development team has accounted for this kind of display. Everything else is highly immersive and amazing to play in 32:9. Only 32:10 would be slightly better in my opinion.

@GunBlasts

2 жыл бұрын

Once u go 32:9 theres no going back. I have the g9 myself but not this neo

@jimtepedino9295

2 жыл бұрын

@@GunBlasts no going back.

Now that what you call a monitor 😍

@amashaziz2212

2 жыл бұрын

Not that we can afford it

Thank you so much brother... you made it super simple

Love this reviews, thanks HU. I got a sugestion, maybe you would include a power drawback when sleep mode or off mode, because of the JayTwoCents prove on last videos with the Gsync module. Thanks for everything.

LOL. The LG C1 OLED just sitting there at the top of the graphs, silently mocking all the monitors. 😂

@bigmack70

2 жыл бұрын

Meh... I used a C9 as a pc gaming display for two years and it wound up getting burn in / uniformity problems. OLED is a bad choice for a multi-purpose PC display

@astarothmarduk3720

2 жыл бұрын

LG C1 OLED requires double of power consumption, but has not more screen space. OLED seems to be quite inefficient in this size. For work, the Samsung G9, Neo or not, is perfect.

@madpistol

2 жыл бұрын

​@@astarothmarduk3720 Anyone who buys the G9 Neo for gaming over the C1 is insane. The $2500 price tag is ludicrous. You can get a C1 brand new for $1300. That's half the price for a 4K120 OLED w/ GSYNC/Freesync.

@bigmack70

2 жыл бұрын

@@madpistol except you have to replace the oled after a couple years once it has uniformity issues... OLEDs are not suited to desktop use unless you like replacing your $1500 display every 2 years. OLEDs are only suitable for pure content consumption, not for variable desktop pc use

@madpistol

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigmack70 Where are you getting your info from? I’ve been using my CX 55 for 1.5 years now with around 6400 hours on the clock, both for work and gaming, and I have had zero issues with it. Stop spreading this FUD. EDIT: I see you had a bad experience. That’s understandable.

When a monitor costs more than most PC’s I expect better OSD flexibility and no irrational lockouts.

@SVT_LIGHTNING

2 жыл бұрын

Lg is the same way. 34gn850 you can’t adjust anything in hdr mode beside brightness and sharpness. Lg thinks they know what’s best for your eyes and what you like and what you want in your viewing experience…

I've been waiting for this review!!

@blizzaroxxx

2 жыл бұрын

Did you bought it?

@tyre1337

2 жыл бұрын

@@blizzaroxxx dude looks 12, of course not

@blizzaroxxx

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyre1337 anything's possible with mommy's credit card

Great Stuff as Always!

IMPORTANT UPDATE: A lot of people have been asking us about the Samsung Odyssey Neo G9's broken HDR while gaming with retail units. At this stage, until Samsung fixes it, we DON'T recommend buying it. Do not buy or pre-order the display until it's fixed because it's a major flaw/defect. We've been discussing the issue with Samsung for a week and a half now and will update you when they explain the issue or fix it. We aren't sure whether it's an issue with the display firmware, GPU drivers, or Windows. We've been able to replicate it using an Nvidia test system with the latest firmware, but not to the same extent on AMD test systems, which is odd. You can see more information and user reports in this thread: www.reddit.com/r/ultrawidemasterrace/comments/p0gloy/my_findings_after_a_full_weekend_with_the_neo_g9/

@RSL1836

2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic.... just purchased 2 days ago

@killlingFreak

2 жыл бұрын

ALSO i have horizontal lines runing across it like the FALD ARRAY thing

@killlingFreak

2 жыл бұрын

@@RSL1836 Dont open box refund it asap.

@Navhkrin

2 жыл бұрын

Has anyone tested this with Win11 because that was supposed to have better HDR

@tchlin

2 жыл бұрын

It's a shame Samsung did not include an Nvidia G-Sync Ultimate ship for such a high price HDR focused gaming monitor. Seems to be the dumbest omission. Hope they can fix this issue with firmware. My unit shipped so will have to check it out and return if needs be. I was going to sell my asus pg35vq but now will just by a monitor arm for it.

If Samsung made a normal ultrawide with 240hz, IPS, great HDR AND 1000R curve, I'd buy it in a heartbeat!

@janderson7459

2 жыл бұрын

so a neo g7 for $1500?

@pacco2012

2 жыл бұрын

Get ready to spend 2k$+ when that comes out.

@tommygun6866

2 жыл бұрын

@@janderson7459 Something like that, yeah.

@tommygun6866

2 жыл бұрын

@@pacco2012 I am.

@JohnSmith-cz3us

2 жыл бұрын

New Alienware has something similar to this. Coming out end of march 2022. 34” UW. 175hz

I cant help but notice the wallpaper is a capture of the Singapore Marina Bay skyline. Nice!

Some users are reporting issues with the Neo G9's latest firmware. We've let Samsung know and are looking into this, with some behaviour different to when we tested the monitor. We'll provide any updates when we hear them. You can read more about the issues in this Reddit thread: www.reddit.com/r/ultrawidemasterrace/comments/p0gloy/my_findings_after_a_full_weekend_with_the_neo_g9/

@TheRetroCave

2 жыл бұрын

I will also try to hunt down especially this issue now…. I have made some comparison videos also one about Nvidia G sync when HDR is activated compared to AMD with HDR

@Mjoellnir87

2 жыл бұрын

The videos by Retrocave show the issue I am seeing on my Neo with Nvidia quite well. In KZread HDR everything works just as expected, even on PC with Nvidia, but in Games it just looks absolutely wrong until HDR is disabled. Maybe you could get someone from Nvidia to comment?

@FelixGaunt

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah mine comes September 10th, so they have till October 10th to either fix it or acknowledge there is an issue and promise to fix it or sadly I'll have to return it. :-/

@matg1784

2 жыл бұрын

Can you please bring up why HDMI2.1 does not support DSC on the Neo with Samsung? It is fully supported by latest gen GPUs and HDMI 2.1 cables. No reason why it shouldn't be added to a $2000 monitor!

@KPalmTheWise

2 жыл бұрын

As someone with an original g9. The firmware has always been awful. It's pathetic how little effort Samsung puts into their halo monitor

Id love this monitor, almost bought the G9 a month ago but saw it had some issues and a new version was in the works. Ended up with a MSI Artymis and Im very happy with it :D If I had the money to spare Id get a Neo G9 and put my Artymis above it :D

After using a 49" monitor for work and gaming for the past year, I would love to have this monitor. But not at that price, especially when you need something a really good GPU to get a reasonable framerate and detail setting for gaming. I love my 2070 but it's definitely the bottleneck in my setup.

Man, it's such a shame, here where I live a G9 costs 10 mininum wages, basically impossible to consider, even in a more top tier build

@Skylancer727

2 жыл бұрын

I mean I bought a PG27UQ working minimum wage. It was on sale for $1200 due to low sales and trying to get rid of stock. Guess Amazon bought way more than people were willing to buy at launch. Noticed it tends to stay out of stock more now.

@Vanadium

2 жыл бұрын

Crazy, this one would cost 2 minimum wages here in Germany but yeah if you actually dont need to pay anything else ofc. I would not want to buy this because its just to thin. I am a 16:9 dude and dont want to change that. My next monitor also needs to have that be somewhere around that 50".

@Luke-fx9gw

2 жыл бұрын

@Livestream Fail translated to "I'm poor and can't afford it " kk kid

@irony8908

2 жыл бұрын

@@Skylancer727 Talk about absolutely retarded financial decisions that keep consumers poor forever.

@Skylancer727

2 жыл бұрын

@@irony8908 I mean I plan to use it for the next like 10 years so I think it was a fantastic decision. I now make far more than minimum wage and have my own car. Just a used thing but wanted to wait for good electric cars to come to the market. Now my job is adding electric chargers so I wouldn't even have to pay to charge it. Sounds like I made the right call with how my existing car was only $2000. Plus nearly 3 years later the successor to the monitor still hasn't been released yet. No intentions on a 32 inch either so there wouldn't even be anything to upgrade to if I wanted to. I know miniLED wouldn't come out fast and QNED is likely another 2-3 years out for the monitor market. When that comes I will buy one and shift this to my second monitor, kick the TN 1440p I still have (got it for $250 like 4 years ago). Good lifespan for an only decent monitor.

Remarkable review, excellent details and concluding synopsis. Would you guys consider changing the closing bell chime? Sounds like a granny's depressed clock. Perhaps something more upbeat.

Excellent review, as always. Guess I'll be sticking with my PG35VQ a little longer

I’m cool with regular ultra wide, this is way to large. If I go this big I’ll just get a cx or c1 and save $1k

@anhiirr

2 жыл бұрын

exactlly and LG already announced 43" cx and c1 launching supposed to be this year, im guessing at least by q4 for the new game launches. supposed 999$-1099$ for the cx and 100 more for the c1. BC lg claims they can cut more TVS from the same glass, in fact they had been cutting an in-efficicent amount of 48" glass vs 55" that they had to sell the 48" for more until they developed a process that could entail more glass/tvs from the same sheet for 48" which theyre now adapting to 43". At that price point considering potential blk friday 100$mark downs. Ill be selling my budget VA 1440p 21:9 for one ideally a c1 after seeing the responsetime reviwes at all hz. I can just see me getting more use out of one over 5+ years vs an ultrawide monitor. I could afford an entire 4k capable gpu with the price difference of those 43" models and a g9 neo, plus ultrawide i find is just too inideal for competitive fps, as great as 21:9 is for racing/flying pve, mmos/arpg any loot based games. If i play fps on a 16:9 watching content on 21:9 is moot as well bc side by side theres still black bars in between the content and my 16:9 even if a 34" mi lines up perfectly with a 27" and matches my LG 27" bezel perfectly. yet for GTA or other games on the 21:9 its nice for watching content on a 16:9. Moba is also meh on 21:9 bc of the screen movement aspects. Id have to set a custom speed and screen move hotkeys on my side mouse buttons for 21:9. Ultrawide definitely has its place for games like fifa and forza though im just willing to walk away for a 4k display that isnt curved. Just looking at the price of lg 38" ultrawides or even some "HDR" next gen capable 21:9's that will cost more than these LG oled tvs with low response time and no overshoot, i couldnt imagine paying more for ghosting and overshoot in this day and age when we have options unlike 2017-2019 since we also lacked gpus for an oled or 4k display.

@asadianbelifont3875

2 жыл бұрын

@@anhiirr yep I agree. I love my Alienware ultra wide now it’s great for pretty much everything. While this monitor looks great I don’t see the point of spending $2k when I can spend less than that and get a tv/monitor with superior display technology by virtually every metric outsid me if brighteness, but even then oled doesn’t need the brightness of led due to having infinite contrast

@izhangt3787

2 жыл бұрын

These u have to experienced to enjoy

@kiisseli1337

2 жыл бұрын

@@anhiirr LG might release 42” OLED next year. And it would be C2 then. CX means 2020 model, C1 2021 model etc. So far we only know that the production of panels will start this year, but this might not be true anymore. No news in a long time.

@anhiirr

2 жыл бұрын

@@kiisseli1337 but i hear LG is going to make CX in 43" among others they said sell high to the gaming demographic and that they wanted the price point to be competitive. Hopefully they make 43" C1's bc the testing has it looking really good. Esp if the c2 is going to cost more than the c1 ID and im sure either you or others would rather prefer a cheaper or cheaper options but still oled and low responsetime with low overshoot

If they made a standard 21:9 ultrawide with this tech I'd happily let them loot my wallet

@GahloWake

2 жыл бұрын

After my last monitor recently took a shit, same.

@anhiirr

2 жыл бұрын

considering how much the G7 costs....if they made a g7 ultrawide "nano" say 165 or 180hz. it would prob still cost 12-1600$ 1600 esp if it was 240hz but 34-38" 21:9

@DystopianUtopia

2 жыл бұрын

@Donnie Kress What is wrong with 32:9? If Samsung did make such a version it would simply be the same height but missing some screen in your peripheral vision. If you like curved ultrawides and can afford this then buy it you simply won’t regret it it’s that simple. Ok you might have a small desk but if you can afford this you can probably afford an upgrade on that too.. Ofc you’ll need a 3080 or above to game on it but again...

@donniekress5552

2 жыл бұрын

@@DystopianUtopia I have a 3080. With how i work I like to have a second monitor in portrait orientation next to my main monitor. Currently have a 34” 21:9 and I think it would very inconvenient to add much more width and still use that second monitor the way I need. I could be wrong though.

@CaptainJonathan

2 жыл бұрын

I've been waiting on a ~50 inch 21:9 with this tech too. That would be sweet.

Mines gonna be here on the 26th, upgrading from a g9. Can't wait.

So hyped about this

That's a BIG monitor

I wonder if they solved the quality control issues with this model.

Thanks for the review. I'm waiting for this monitor to be available in EU. Right now it is not even listed in stores and Samsung's own website tracks it as pre-order, despite we are already past the supposed "worldwide availability date".

AWESOME REVIEW... I want to buy one... Now I just need a new desk, and change my entire PC gaming area layout... this thing is a beast in size.. but this should bring my 3080 to its knees.

Id rather have the LG oled honestly.

@BlackBruceLeeTheGreatDekuTree

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but the LG monitors have terrible contrast levels.

@oscaro7126

2 жыл бұрын

@@BlackBruceLeeTheGreatDekuTree he said oled not ips

@BlackBruceLeeTheGreatDekuTree

2 жыл бұрын

Qh I see now

@pyronic120120

2 жыл бұрын

oled on a monitor isn't usually a good ide as there are way too many static objects on screen a lot of the time and the dreaded burn in effect. That's basically why they are also some of the least common monitors

@vgamedude12

2 жыл бұрын

@@pyronic120120 I feel like burn in can be adequately mitigated with screensavers, hidden taskbars, and the tv pixel repair cycle it does when powered down I guess it depends if someone is fine with having some minor burn in at 3 or more years of usage. If I was already buying an expensive display I'd take the oled and chance that and get something else down the line if it bothered me rather than compromising heavily with lcd tech now.

8:45 Why does G7 have so much higher processing delay and refresh lag than the both G9s?

@andersjjensen

2 жыл бұрын

Because the price is much lower. Funny how G5, G7 and G9 translates to Intel's i5, i7 and i9 :P

Awesome review, hope you guys will eventually cover the aorus fv43u.

@tomhancock4519

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

Great review! Does this backlight technology works with older games and content or does this magnificent contrast works ONLY in HDR compatibility games?

How the hell does a monitor costing $3k not come factory calibrated? That's just terrible.

Samsung give me these specs, VA panel etc in a flat 27-32" version in 1440p. Thank you. Sadly I hate UW format, curved monitors (especially the high curvature on samsung), and size is also too big for my taste. The specs are really nice though, and wish they would make a high end flat panel/monitor

@junkyeyes

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe they will do at some point, and also that it won't cost more than 800euro.

@anhiirr

2 жыл бұрын

my 21:9 mi after a year of owning it...has become a learning lesson. 400$ for it and i wouldnt jusify paying more for a 21:9 experience unless i were to quit multiplayer shooters. I found the experience quite ideal for mmo/arpgs any loot based hack n slash or shooter/ racing games like forzahorizon most single player games or sports games like fifa or 2k. The second i tried to play any copetitive fps like siege, valorant, cs:go, or moba....i had to use 16:9 and thats when i wished i had a better 16:9 montor so i got the lg 27GP83B...bc they dont even make good 240HZ 1080P monitors for cheaper than i got the LG for. The curve on the g7 is atrocious really makng the 32" the only option....yet the curve is so bad for content consumption smh and at upwards of both my monitors price combined. I mean if you have the budget for a VA 400$ range 21:9 its worth it for the fun you can get out of it for the genre that can maximize the 21:9 ratio. But for shooters the only multiplayer shooter i really enjoyed with it was BFV and Insurgency sandstorm...both of which are already better with the LG due to its response time/and lack of ghosting and overshoot esp in sRGB mode. It just sucks for content consumption as well bc if i watch content and try to game on the 16:9 lg even though the bezel from my LG and Mi 34" match perfectly.....the content on the UW is cropped bc of the format and its still pointless that the screens match perfectly....yet if im playing GTA on the 21:9 and watching a movie etc on the 16:9 its a perfect multi monitor line up...and the fact that my UW is curved helps with the angle of my 16:9 vs if my 34" wasnt curved. My LG 16:9 is 27" i guess i got lucky that theyre a perfect fit. I will be selling that UW to replace it with an LG 43'' C1 once they launch. as ive never owned 4k tv or smart tv as it is. And would like an ideal monitor for non fps/moba essentially pve/mmo. So i can play d2 from a comfortable position and on a large format/4k. Among other games like bf2042. While still having a solution for siege and cs:go and league/dota. FC5 or FC6 RDR2 Cyberpunk, on 21:9 is an experience that 16:9 cant beat.....unless its 4k NGL thats what i learned....thank god for DLSS and vulkan. and in defense of BFV hackers aside....its a game i can enjoy on a ps4/4k tv with controller that level of image quality and input latency.....to my 4k oled omen on low 90 fps in 4k. To my desktop on 21:9 or 16:9 fast response time. I could never equate that level of fun/experience to valorant/cs:go/overwatch. How acceptable the game is to play with various settings and hardware. Granted its very smooth and ideal with 1-4 ms response time on the LG and reflex enabled wih g-sync. VS ps4 or a 60hz laptop with sub g-sync framerates.The 4k on a 15" laptop beats 21:9 from an image quality/pixel density vs immersion aspect of immersion being more realestate, vs 4k having so many detials that you otherwise wouldnt notice. It does up the experience of gaming off 15". While the advantage of the 27" qhd with good responsetime and sRGB mode with a full system wont soften the blow of a hacker in a plane or tank. XD prob playing off their samsung curved monitor TBH. I wish samsung made a high quality flat panel monitor too bc i wish they made a tv that could compete with the LG c1 in 4k. No need for insane refreshrates with the level of gpu fps yields. My 400$ va is a samsung panel the same one in the 400$ gigabyte ultrawide. Yet samsung doesnt sell a 400$ ultrawide 34" monitor.....damn shame. Idk how i feel about spending 600$+ on a monitor still to this day. Like you i find myself scavenging through those flagships for a flat panel.......idk if you need 240hz bt LG does make a 180hz QHD ips nano...id recommmend that for 450$ on sale in sRGB mode unless you want to enable the overdrive to max. Or the MSI MAG274qrf the flat one is also on sale for 350$ unless you were plannig on spending around g7/aliwneware 240hz qhd prices. Bt the Samsung VA image quality for games and performance is quite jaw dropping if i was flush id probably get a 32" for the sake of not having any other option as far as 240hz lack of overshoot and image/color clarity it brings for gaming. If i were rich XD. bc then i could have a 80" oled tv on teh wall for my non gaming needs XD

I agree with your opinion, mini LED G7, take my money!!

I have the old 2020 Samsung Odyssey G9 it's just the best monitor I have ever seen it's crazy !

Great! Now I just need to win lotto so I can pick this up, along with the GPU to power it.

This HDR implementation (particularly the Standard mode) is probably acceptable if not fine for someone playing mostly in darker environments, such as at night.

nice to watch this review on this monitor that I received 2 weeks ago)) all I can say is wait for windows 11, its more HDR focused.

Awesome review Tim, this is why I support on Patreon. Ironically, you can buy this kickass monitor, or high end GPU. I suppose buying both would be best practice though. I find it difficult to piss away 5 thousand dollars for a 2 thousand dollar computer.

@aluckyshot

2 жыл бұрын

Tell me about it, damn wanting nice gear 🤣 going to be like 5K on this monitor and a GPU capable of running it.

I'd love to hear more about the PBP mode, can you run the monitor it 2560x1440 at 240hz? can you use free/gsync in PBP? can you use HDR in PBP etc.

@pyronic120120

2 жыл бұрын

I have the original G9, chances are that in PBP for this monitor it will not run at such a refresh rate. I don't know about the HDR since it's a new implementation this gen, but at least the PBP for the one I have, the refresh rate is locked at 60hz no matter the PBP mode I set up.

@mainsource8030

2 жыл бұрын

your question has been asked ad nauseum in every reddit chat from here to the end of time, the info is readily available with all but the worst efforts, in pbp mode you dont get 240hz even in 2560

Still waiting for one with a 2160p vertical resolution and at least 100hz refresh.

@992BlackShadow

2 жыл бұрын

You will need like 3x 3090's to just get 30 fps

@herrbert2505

2 жыл бұрын

and a gpu to run that ;)

@Gamerzguy2468

2 жыл бұрын

@@992BlackShadow Obviously it would be an enthusiast thing but I play at 5160x2160 using DSR on my 3440x1440 monitor all the time and frame rates are actually very good with my 3080 TI. For multiplayer competitiveness the 3440x1440 is better for high fps but for single player games I use DSR to go 4k ultrawide and there hasnt been a game I couldn't get 30 fps+ at max including cyberpunk 2077 with all RT enabled. Usually its 50fps+ actually absolutely maxed for the average Triple A game.

@jokerproduction

2 жыл бұрын

@@992BlackShadow Only if I intend to game on it which I do not. Need it for productivity and the screen real estate would make it excellent.

@nejihiashi

2 жыл бұрын

it does have more than 100hz it have 240hz so the only complaints is 2160p

I am in complete agreement with your comment about a mini led version of the g7. I have been so tempted to buy a 32" G7 and with this being released I am holding off getting one as Id absolutely love a g7 version of this and really hope they announce one in the next few months. Locally the G7 is about 899 for the 32" version and even if a neo version of that had a price increase I would still buy it without thinking twice.

@Absolutjeff

Жыл бұрын

As someone who’s had a neo g7 for the last week, it’s literally incredible. It’s ten feet from an lg cx and it’s nearly identical black levels with zero chance of burn in. If mini/micro leds improve just a little bit more they’re going to beat oleds.

@socialreport2836

11 ай бұрын

​@@Absolutjeff is it already in brightness at least?

Thanks for Keeping My Request And Reviewing This Monitor ❤️🙂

18:40 Yes, never buy a product based on future updates. If you aren't satisfied as it is when you buy it, don't buy it. Such an important thing many still don't understand. Same with pre-order, never pre-order.

Something is wrong with the Gray-to-Gray Performance tables and this isn't the first time seeing it. In this video the LG 34GN850 has a 6.01s G2G response time, in the actual test video on the channel from last year it has a 3.91s G2G response time. That's a big discrepancy. From my testing the panel is more likely to have a 5-6 ms response time though.

@TannexGaming

2 жыл бұрын

I think it comes down to the fact that they changed how they do the testing at the start of 2021, could be mistaken though

@andersjjensen

2 жыл бұрын

@@TannexGaming No, that is exactly it. They went with a more stringent gamma corrected colour transition model at the same time they introduced cumulative deviation.

@konga382

2 жыл бұрын

This video explains how they changed their testing methodology and why kzread.info/dash/bejne/X46h2s5mctfWl84.html

@Beats24-7

2 жыл бұрын

@@TannexGaming Yes, I know they've changed their testing methodology, but a > 50% increase in response time is pretty drastic. So this would mean that the previous testing method hasn't been very accurate. Furthermore, I have seen a similar thing with a test of a MSI monitor I believe, that was tested in 2019 and then shown on a table again in 2020 with a different response time (still old testing method). I forgot about the exact monitor though.

I love the samsung G9 i can't wait until i get one, one day

The only review that matters, thx hardware unboxed

Wake me up when Samsung decides to make flat versions of that panel.

@Valentinebeats

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely waiting for that, too. Or at least a slighter 1800/1900R curve...

So why exactly buy this over OLED when it's practically twice the price?

@pedrosoares7273

2 жыл бұрын

Because probably 48 at 16:9 inches is too big on a desk. One could run the 48 inch at 21:9 but it wouldn't be curved, and at that size, the curve really matters.

@d3nswiper

2 жыл бұрын

@@pedrosoares7273 but this one is even bigger horizontally though? that seems like a pretty weak argument, u still have to be same distance away from either display

Wow finally HDR and HDMI 2.1. Just need one in 27 16:9 size within AUD 1000 now.

Excellent review! What about splitscreen picture by picture? In previous version, it was only 60Hz, does it improve here?

I just want them to make a 27-32 inch FLAT version with the same specs for a reasonable price. Seems like they have no interest on doing so though.

@martinmalone6324

2 жыл бұрын

same maybe upto 34/35 would empty wallet in a heart beat, as 49 is just to wide for the gap it has to fit.

@konga382

2 жыл бұрын

Not really possible. Flat VAs are a bad idea due to viewing angle weirdness with colors on the edge of the screen getting distorted in the worst case scenarios. So to make it flat, you'd have to switch to an IPS panel, and at that point you'd end up with completely different panel characteristics.

@jonathanr4160

2 жыл бұрын

@@konga382 I'll take that over terrible IPS glow and backlight bleed. I could handle some curve but the G7 is way too curved for normal desktop usage to me for a 27-32 in monitor.

I just want them to bring out a flat G7 with the same specs as the original monitor.

I got the Samsung Odyssey G9 and i love it, it is crazy amount of screen real estate, only gripe I got with it is the HDR, so this new version gets me really interested, to bad it is way more expensive that the one I got.

@unreal6959

Жыл бұрын

im with neo G9 for 2-3 months now and i have 0 issues and i love it so much !

now lets hope it solves the color banding of certain blue-orange shades at the top corners +hdr firmware fix and its gg

Great HDR monitor - finally ! I think a lot of people will buy one - together with a 3090 you can have a lot of fun !

Prices for true HDR PC monitors are absolutely absurd and completely out of touch compared to the TV market and the average wealth level of the majority of human beings. Until they get closer to $1000 USD or less, these are just great tech demos.

I own the 120Hz version since 2020 and honestly it is just the best thing I bought for work and gaming since 2010. I really love this monster as it heavily lifts up work and leisure. Work: You can always add another screen next to the one you are using, if you are doing coding, complex documents, compare designs, it is just excellent. Leisure: Brilliant picture quality. I do not play games that do not support 32:9. Its just so immersive in every type of game and even for some more competitive shooter it is still great (if you have a higher mouse speed anyhow). If you think about an upgrade, I recommend you to buy one of these beauties.

@aluckyshot

2 жыл бұрын

Lol misread, it is a year old better be working 🤣

Odyssey G9 Odyssey Neo G9 . . Odyssey Galaxy G9

Too wide for me and too many Hz XD 21:9 and 144Hz is enough, but I would prefer 3840x1600 resolution

@Diwwah

2 жыл бұрын

How can there be too many HZ as long as you have VRR?

@ObscenePizza

2 жыл бұрын

@@Diwwah At this price point it has to fit my desires, so I do agree with him on both points. Concerning the Hz; I'm rarely going to reach 144+ fps and my brain/eyes isn't/aren't that sensitive to notice any improvements above 144Hz. So why pay for it? If they're ever going to release an identical model but with a smaller width, lower Hz and a lower price tag, I'm going to give them my hard-earned money.

@WarframeCrunch

2 жыл бұрын

@@Diwwah Because I need to pay more money for more Hz and I just need 144Hz :D

The monitor I've been waiting to replace my CHG90 with It's perfect for me

In the UAE the price actually *decreased* from the G9. The G9 was selling for 6300 AED at launch (now around 4000AED) while the G9 Neo is at 6000AED and with a 1000 AED off from the preorder bonus it's 5000 AED ($1300). Totally worth the money now !

This review although interesting not relevant for the vast majority of us consumers cause so few of us would even think of paying those prices for a monitor...Samsung G7 G70A, Gigabyte M28U, or Aorus F43U PLZ!! =)

@karehaqt

2 жыл бұрын

Most of these channels now only cater to the very wealthy as they're the ones buying these things.

@CornFed_3

2 жыл бұрын

Damn, salty much? Sorry that some of us prefer buying top tier equipment.

@lazyreuvin

2 жыл бұрын

@@CornFed_3Not salty at all to be honest. If you got the money good for you. You're going to have a great monitor for years to come. But for most of us avg consumers spending $3,000.00 AUD on a monitor is pretty ouch. For that money I could buy a new 55inch 4K OLED TV with 120hz screen refresh and have enough money to buy a 1440p High refresh rate monitor to play shooters on.

@CornFed_3

2 жыл бұрын

@@lazyreuvin, I prefer to have the best set up for each individual thing I do. TV is for TV and PC gaming is for PC gaming. Sure, it’s expensive but buying top notch stuff from the get go saves a lot in the long run. Plus, 120HZ isn’t anything special on a 4K TV for gaming. I have that set up for my Xbox Series X and it’s not ideal one bit.

lg c1 or even cx is still way better value for money and it's still expensive af

@PainterVierax

2 жыл бұрын

As said under previous reviews, oled still lacks a lot of durability compared to LCD so it's not a good investment. Those TVs will quickly worn after 3 to 5 years of use, getting gradually worse brightness and color accuracy than LCD of the same age, so they will be harder to sell in the used market.

@ThunderingRoar

2 жыл бұрын

@@PainterVierax Thats not true, YT channel called rtings did a long time burn in tests and in 9000 hours of usage their LG OLED hasnt changed brightness or color gamut where as their LCD TVs have. Also burn in highly depends what content you watch and its quite easy to avoid as long as you avoid static content and high brightness you ll be fine for many years to come.

@dominicbeltz9057

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThunderingRoar but with constant unmoving features on the screen (start row and icons) that does increase the risk putting up a screensaver that is very bright after 30 minutes unused time would decrease the risk significantly

@madpistol

2 жыл бұрын

@@dominicbeltz9057 I have 6400 hours of varied content on my CX with zero burn-in. As long as you don't abuse the monitor with high brightness static images, it's fine (HUDs are not an issue unless you spend 6000 hours playing the same game).

@stevekjr9563

2 жыл бұрын

@@PainterVierax You can keep swallowing the Samsung QLED marketing department's hate on OLEDs for the past 10 years, however once Samsung releases their own OLEDs in the next year or 2, I bet their marketing about burn-in will quickly change its tune.

Thank you for the great review. I'm really thinking about getting this beauty. In another review the the guy (not sure if i'm allowed to post the name, so i don't) measured a peak of over 2k nits but only for a few second and then the monitor dimmed down to around 900 nits. Could it be that the one spike you have in your nits chart is from that? Also the question is why is it doing that. Do the mini-leds kinda "overheat"?

I got my original Odyssey G9 for $1299, and I love the hell out of it. If this one with the extra lighting zones ever comes down to a more reasonable price, I might upgrade... but I've only had the G9 for like half a year so I won't be upgrading anytime soon. Also, you can put the monitor on an arm & it eliminates the stupid gigantic stand. These monitors are one of those that give you the "once you try it you'll never go back" gaming experiences, and multi-tasking is amazing as one would expect. I got a "WALI" brand arm and it holds it with ease, at a better height than the stand does, and it's less wobbly somehow as well.

@lawoftheland5923

Жыл бұрын

I absolutely hated my g9 neo. On games that don’t have the support for it like GTA which I play often it breaks the camera

They were better off making a 21:9 with many zones, maybe 38 inch

@tahsin28

2 жыл бұрын

Ya thts what everyones been saying. It hard and pointless to render so many peripheral pixels.

The price triples overnight after someone discovers a way to mine crypto currency using monitors 😆

@benjaminoechsli1941

2 жыл бұрын

We've got proof-of-work, proof-of-stake, proof-of-space-and-time... Enter proof-of-screen. The bigger your display, the more digits you can display on it, earning you more of the crypto.

@seeker_of_knowlage3568

2 жыл бұрын

hahaha thanks for the good laugh

Really looking forward to your review of the Asus Rog Strix XG27AQ, refresh of the XG279Q.

Agreed, Odyssey G7 with this sort of mini-LED specs would be an instant-buy rating for me. Samsung, please!

Personally after owning the last G9 Odyssey monitor I will stay away from this monitor. So many graphical issues with DisplayPort bandwidth and GSYNC enabled. Not to mention the cheap plastic they used that constantly pops once the monitor heats and cools down. The stand also gives out after a few months it’s just to heavy to hold the monitor up it just slides down to the bottom.

Costs nearly 3x what I paid for my 55" OLED. :/

@xyoxus

2 жыл бұрын

Than you probably have a very bad OLED or got a good deal. Is your OLED even HDR capable, has like brightness values that really enable HDR? Is it more than 60Hz?

@hideff4982

2 жыл бұрын

@@xyoxus Do you live in a cave?

@andreiga76

2 жыл бұрын

@@hideff4982 I think even cavemen know about LG C9/CX/C1

@kingplunger6033

2 жыл бұрын

As a monitor with a lot of static bars ? enjoy your burn in. and I am not saying that because I like this monitor, but seriously: oleds don't make good monitors. tv,media and occasional gaming ? yeah sure, but more and a none oled alternative is just better.

@xyoxus

2 жыл бұрын

@@hideff4982 LG OLED TV = 1200 (and still not 240Hz) G9 Neo = 2400 So twice So he would have a 800 dollar TV which would be bad in one key area atleast.

I have the Neo G9 and the revision just before this. Happy with both. Using the Neo for gaming and the regular for work (which I spend way more time on). Question: where did you get that Singapore wallpaper? I love it! I've walked that bridge!

@dmx7

Жыл бұрын

Hi there, have bought recently the Samsung Neo G9, but in Windows 11 under System --> Display --> Advanced display shows me LS49AG95, for you, the same?

@rafiski_carneiro

11 ай бұрын

@@dmx7 Same for me after installing a driver on my Neo G9

Looks great but I like having a second screen while gaming or watching videos for Discord, OBS, etc. With a 1.2m screen I dunno if I could justify a second monitor on the side. Depending on what games you play, HUD elements on the side of the screen get harder to pay attention to even on a 34" (3440x1440) - so this would be an even bigger problem on a 49" display.

Shame that they didn't just stick with 3440x1440. I can't imagine anyone wanting 32:9 for gaming.

@jeremy6844

2 жыл бұрын

lol

@benmullard4886

2 жыл бұрын

Sim racing 32:9 is excellent

@andyastrand

2 жыл бұрын

CoD warzone at 32:9 is bloody amazing

@InnuendoXP

2 жыл бұрын

Cockpit-based games can be great at this kind of ratio. That's a niche though, and really a hard buy against something like an HDR OLED VR headset like the Pimax 5K XR for enthusiasts, particularly at the price, where the screen would basically be for those who prefer comfort.

@manup1931

2 жыл бұрын

I do! 21:9 is to small, 3x 16:9 is to much.