Full podcast episode: kzread.info/dash/bejne/g62mzMmfXcK8lM4.html Lex Fridman podcast channel: kzread.info Guest bio: Sam Harris is an author, podcaster, and philosopher.

@shtiwishiknewearlier-1722

Жыл бұрын

Screw Sam Harris... Lex, stay true on your empathy philosophy.

@ItsMe-yv9jd

Жыл бұрын

Sam clearly has a dog in this fight as he is Jewish and was triggered by someone expressing their disdain for jews... forgetting that the jewish community has the nerve to insist that they are the 'chosen ones' based on the ridiculous claim that God himself told them so, while criticizing Kanye for claiming to be a creative genius. (I would ask Sam as a jew, who is more delusional and egocentric, when you believe your own press (the bible) and for thousands of years push the self serving agenda that God himself decided that of all the people on the planet, that the jews are the 'chosen ones' and in the process offending everyone else by labeling them as inferior... one would have to ask who is the 'asshole' that needs to rethink WHY they have been hated for centuries, by so many, all over the world.

@chadstephens3640

Жыл бұрын

Sam should regret being a dumb smart person.

@teegees

Жыл бұрын

Lex demonstrated a much higher level of wisdom. Sam... just proved he’s a pompous ass.

@mwatts6755

Жыл бұрын

Sam’s a Nepo Baby

Sam's idea of not speaking openly with people like Kanye clearly has never worked. Keep doing what you do Lex

@fikaenthusiast177

Жыл бұрын

Did Lex’s approach with Kanye work?

@eduard_soul

Жыл бұрын

@@fikaenthusiast177 We don't know because we experience the timeline where Lex had this approach, it could have been way worse

@brandonmatson7618

Жыл бұрын

Depends on your definition of worked is. If ya mean Kanye West is speaking the truth and it's good when he says it, well you would be a Nazi. If you mean it's good Kanye gets to talk because free speech good, but his ideas get shot down by logic and Kanye can change his mind, well it's just a lost cause at this point.

@lalook2664

Жыл бұрын

@@fikaenthusiast177 no not really he wanted a apology and no more talking about it Kanye did say if he did give the best it wouldn’t be good enough

@Matthew-zn3zm

Жыл бұрын

it worked for centuries... letting morons having colossus sized pedestals is an extremely modern invention

Lex's interview was 1000x better than any of the other interviews/coverage of Kanye. Lex was the only person who treated Kanye as a person. Lex both helped Kanye elaborate and explain his positions, as well as challenging them.

@mohnjarx7801

Жыл бұрын

Alex Jones and Gavin McInnes did it way better

@lalook2664

Жыл бұрын

He gaslighted him though Kanye asked for help lex said I will then backtracks then says I don’t know anything about the situation you are in then when Kanye says what should I do lex was concerned of not getting a black man to apologize Kanye wanted to talk about black issues or issues that impact them more 😅

@ItIsYouAreNotYour

Жыл бұрын

It's sad how low Harris has become. The dude smells his own farts after thousands call him an intellectual for saying nothing except slow, verbose word salad.

@mrj6

Жыл бұрын

He did not challenge him you’re full of it. Was super weak and went all over the place.

@paralleluniverse99

Жыл бұрын

@@lalook2664 What the hell did I just read? What's a comma?

God I love when two people let each other finish what they’re saying

@BianicEpicVideos

4 ай бұрын

Thank you

Didn’t know that Ben Stiller was such a philosopher

@user-kr2ul5no7t

2 ай бұрын

😭😭😭😭😭

Hi Lex. One of the things I admire about you is that you trust your audience to critically evaluate guests / ideas. I do not believe it is your responsibility to carefully filter the information that us smooth brained plebeians are exposed to.

@PhillipHilton

Жыл бұрын

Sadly when you bring a lunatic's opinion oxygen and publicity it kicks the Overton window in his direction.

@gvlacic21

Жыл бұрын

And Lex is a G for reading comments and ruminating on them. Most people say "ignore those" Lex knows his greatest growth comes from his biggest critics 💪 Keep at it brother!!!

@DaveRossignol

Жыл бұрын

Great point and so unlike most channels and news outlets

@noisemagician

Жыл бұрын

Great point!

@jblo76

Жыл бұрын

It’s his responsibility to not platform people who espouse hate and antisemitism when he knows the climate is such that no amount of his “love and empathy” will override the behavior of certain loose cannons that follow Kanye’s words like gospel. It’s not how it’s perceived by Lex’s audience that’s concerning, but rather the minds of the dangerous and unstable few who feed off social media snippets of Kanye spouting off with impunity.

i've always said Sam's achilles heal is that he believes he can win the world with intellectual arguments. he can reason with the best of them, but he's got nothing for anyone when it comes to their emotional nature, and doesn't believe in a spiritual nature. You have to reach people on all levels of their humanity to actually inspire transformation. That's what Lex is talking about. If you want people to understand your message, then fine, make your intellectual appeal only. If you want them to accept your message, you'd better start figuring out how navigate the issues going on in their heart

@ronrubicon1593

Жыл бұрын

That would be great if Sam would actually use sound, reliable, consistent intellectual arguments and ideas. He's a fraud.

@vipersb1

Жыл бұрын

In your "opinion". I disagree with you.

@joshualelo

Жыл бұрын

@@vipersb1 cool

@joshualelo

Жыл бұрын

@@nans787 from Sam's book "Waking Up": "Our minds are all we have. They are all we have ever had. And they are all we can offer others." Sam seeks to remove spirituality and human connection from the institution of religion, and place it within the mind of the individual. Meaning any "spiritual nature" one has is merely a construct of their own mind, and to his credit, he doesn't throw the baby out with the bath water. Rather he believes that each person should construct their own mind in such a way as to benefit their spiritual and natural well being...Sam and I just have different views on the origin of the human spirit. i believe our spiritual nature transcends the capacity of our own minds; that your individual consciousness is not the sun that your entire existence revolves around. there's more to us than that, like dark matter in space. we don't know what it is, but we know that it's there, and that it actually makes up most of what's there. and the people who know how to appeal to that intangible, nearly undefinable departments of human nature...they are the ones who change the world for better or worse, because they can. everyone else is just debating. but i do think sam's voice is extremely valuable and am glad that you were able to find such utility in his work

@warrenny

Жыл бұрын

I haven't read all comments here, but this is the best comment so far. I like Sam Harris but I don't agree with all of his cut&dry beliefs. Lex is young and doesn't have the years of insight that Sam has but he does speak well for his generation - a generation of young people who in general have a good basis of empathy and equality.....and that goes for the people who struggle with mental health.

We actually need to be careful saying “we need to be careful how we treat artists,” when there is an increasing number of self-proclaimed artists out there acting out in inexcusable ways simply because they know they can hide behind their so-called artistry. Playing the victim has become an art form in and of itself in lieu of being accountable for one's actions.

@robertmills413

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree, celebrities have such an elevated status these days we must hold them to account. If Christopher Hitchens were to spew unhinged rhetoric about producing rap music we wouldn't give him a pass.

@ruseradio6732

Жыл бұрын

That's a great way to think if you don't appreciate the artistic process.

@mathiasrennochaves3533

Жыл бұрын

I think what he argued for is that you can't convince an artist the same way you do an intellectual... You can't use reason or evidence... Artists think differently therefore should be dealt differently. I don't think he believes that artists should have some special treatment in a moral sense.

@casherj1

Жыл бұрын

@@mathiasrennochaves3533 Exactly, he isn't saying that everyone with an instagram page can say what they want. He is saying just like when talking to a child you must consider they have a unique perspective compared to an adult there are places where nuance should be considered.

@nicholaslynndrake

9 ай бұрын

wow...new thought to me...that makes a lot of sense..in how I feel about myself, to be clear. Very good insight.

“90% of your audience is wrong” -Sam Harris

@thegentleman4873

Жыл бұрын

He is an utter fool and has rightly been discredited and become obsolete

@MrCastrillonx

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you. I couldn’t believe my eyes. What an arrogant narcissist. Why does he bother interviewing with others when he has all the answers and truth. He is exactly like a fundamental religious leader dictating dogma. I guess that’s why he dislikes them so much, they are his reflection in the mirror lol

@dv4497

Жыл бұрын

But Sam is correct...hosting a guy who is probably in the midst of a mental breakdown on your super popular podcast is probably not the right decision. It's good that Sam is able to give this type of criticism to Lex directly.

@alexcaminiti

Жыл бұрын

More like, "Everyone who disagrees with me is wrong, even when I don't have a firm stance on a topic."

@xorealslowmd

Жыл бұрын

@@alexcaminiti he has a firm stance on the topic… having Kanye on was wrong, all of the fans who said it was a good idea were wrong. It helped nothing. It did NOT push the conversation in a more loving or humane way. So… these commenters can’t believe their ears at how narcissistic and rude Sam is being AND YET … he was correct. Shouldn’t have done it.

Lex trying to teach Sam how friendship works is fascinating

@kazithecanecorso2724

Жыл бұрын

Sam hates blacks. He is a racist jew

@Filthed

Жыл бұрын

Hitler had friends too.

@watercave4905

Жыл бұрын

@@Filthed False equivalency.

@StringSlingerSix

Жыл бұрын

@@Filthed almost as wild as you having friends.

@genkimachina

Жыл бұрын

@@Filthed Hitler could have used a friend like Lex.

I view these two as an example of how we humans should interact and disagree. I literally don’t care who is right in this conversation, because the “right” answer is so much less important than being able to have an honest conversation and disagree with respect and kindness.

@dinobotpwnz

7 ай бұрын

@@ginxxxxx So if Sam decided to waste his time talking to Kanye, everyone else would've changed their minds too and he wouldn't have lost 75% of his net worth?

@MavethTheReaper

7 ай бұрын

In what realm do you come to the conclusion Kanye is 100 times better than Sam, you lack logic@@ginxxxxx

@MavethTheReaper

7 ай бұрын

@@ginxxxxx You are just rambling and making no sense no offense

@MavethTheReaper

7 ай бұрын

I didn't claim him, I also do not claim lunatic Ye, to claim Ye is better than anyone I find interesting.@@ginxxxxx

@user-gt7op7we8e

3 ай бұрын

@@MavethTheReaper Easy. Sam thinks it's permissible to preemptively attack muslim countries and support Israel's genocide in Gaza, while Kanye doesn't.

No matter what my political views or religious views or lack of , I got much respect for two adults that can go straight to the problems they have with each other .

@JimboDean3

9 ай бұрын

Nice hot take, no one cares

@codyquinn4954

9 ай бұрын

Yeah except this is exactly what Sam is arguing against.

@User-pu2hz

7 ай бұрын

@@codyquinn4954?

@RommyAli

3 ай бұрын

I am so tired of seeing comments like this. As if friendly convo's, and cordial debates on podcasts like this are extremely hard to come by. There are what seems like millions upon millions of hours of conversations just like this one on KZread ffs.

@danieltriplett3616

3 ай бұрын

@@RommyAli actually if I remember it seemed like they actually had an issue, and other podcasts seem to be attacking someone else who not even there , katt Williams did it , tim pool does it , Patrick David guy does it a lot . At least these two keep it between them, if I remember, ain't watched it in awhile

I have this horrible feeling Sam didn’t hear anything Lex said

@GoodBaadUgly

Жыл бұрын

I feel like Sam listens only to respond in most interactions.

@ItIsYouAreNotYour

Жыл бұрын

Sam dates Sam, only talks about Sam, and feels Sam. Then uses his massive ego given by brain-dead fans to tell you either something obvious or irrelevant. Dude has zero morals, only a bulletin list.

@gvlacic21

Жыл бұрын

@@GoodBaadUgly haha one of those people. More than anything he loves setting the tone and narrative using his pace and cadence, he wishes he was slow mobius. And it works on most people. Big words, calm demeanor, he's great at it, and (relatively speaking) he's a super smart dude! But those things don't make him right all the time. Especially with people who can keep up, like Lex.

@MikeJones-mf2fw

Жыл бұрын

Sam isn't a good person. He likes for people to think he is, and he would do very evil things to make you believe his point of view. Sam thinks the pendulum will swing back his way, thus making him right in some way. He's just not a genuinely good person like Lex is.

@MikeJones-mf2fw

Жыл бұрын

@Roy Ronson we need to shower him with turned backs. He is useless to human progress.

Sam misses the point. Lex knows what he’s doing. Keep on, Lex! We love you.

@denizgur

Жыл бұрын

And now you are missing the point. Lex consistently let us know he doesn't know what he is doing but he is learning along the way and positions himself accordingly. Basically evolving as a person. He only has a fundamental pre-judgement and while he learns/understands, he shapes his own idea by talking and asking and questioning. That's the beauty of his identity.

@clorofilaazul

Жыл бұрын

@@denizgur you might think that I’m missing the point. I don’t. I know Lex for many years now. He knows what he’s doing, despite having open mind and space for new ideas and experiences. That doesn’t mean he’s totally lost. Not in the least. But I do agree that one of the beauty of his identity is his learning process. There is no other channel like Lex’s. Sure every person is different and the contents people make on their channels are different. But there is something really special about Lex’s approach to conversation and dialog that differs from the rest. He’s a special dude, and we should appreciate having someone like him in the social media sphere.

@agent-sz2qj

Жыл бұрын

@@denizgur just like an AI robot

@griffith500tvr

Жыл бұрын

Actually, Eric Weinstein's theory has been disproven by Timothy Nguyen but Lex won't let Timothy speak on his bot cast, neither will Joe Rogan, something strange going on there.....

@efecan1990

Жыл бұрын

@@griffith500tvr is this a bot

15:50 To be fair, if you do define yourself as _the_ Chosen People, you can't expect *not* to have a storm coming. Hopefully not violent. I personally don't see it that way, yet it's worthwhile to look at it from others' perspectives and try to get at their resentment.

Why can't we have politicians like these two who can actually sit down and discuss respectfully and intelligently like human beings?

@genegade

7 ай бұрын

Because we do. This is what conversations look like when the cameras aren't rolling. It's how Matt Gaetz and AOC wrote a bill together. Ironically, politicians like Bernie Sanders are where things go off the rails bc he's so loudly uncompromising in his vision, he can't work with anyone.

@mastermirror7219

4 ай бұрын

because they dont win. and most probably when they do the "normal" ones destroy them

one issue with sam is that he always comes from the position that he has the answer and that he knows better... even on things that cannot be known.

@Im_Really_Jesus_4real

Жыл бұрын

Precisely. He’s insufferable

@Georgious

Жыл бұрын

One issue with Lex is that he almost never comes from the position that he has the anwser and knows better, even on things he clearly does know better than say Joe Rogan or someone the succes of his podcast depends on!

@Georgious

Жыл бұрын

They will both let Graham Hancock go on about ancient civilization and never say; I think that the fact you believe these ancient monolithic buildings were build using telekentic powers discredits you to the point were I don't think anyone needs to take you seriously, and I'm shocked by the fact that so many do!

@user-qm5eg3fg8c

Жыл бұрын

Also known as having an opinion about something?

@jangoskett9164

Жыл бұрын

@@Georgious Graham Hancock has never said any such thing, you plonker

Lex had the balls to post this. W

@anubislee36

Жыл бұрын

Lex absolutely has balls. But since when does it take balls to post a video where you're obviously right and the other guy isn't? Hah 😅

Sam actually saying Kanye is this and that. When could use the same language about himself

Sam said the Kanye conversation wasn’t illuminating on Kanye’s views, I thought it was

Havnt watched Sam Harris in years, cheers for reminding me why I don't know.

@PHJoy

Жыл бұрын

you say "know" I say "now"

@garthkite

Жыл бұрын

Me to mate, Trump really did break him.

@cpthornman

Жыл бұрын

@@garthkite Trump Derangement Syndrome is a real thing.

@sunelarsen9307

Жыл бұрын

He’s a non religious Jew, that says it all

@galoobigboi

Жыл бұрын

@@sspinozaaa I would say he created a whole set of dogmas of his own Pursued to their logical end, they ended up making him as obtuse as any religious nut he so despises. I'll take my religious dogmas over his secular, so called..."rational ones" whatever the hell they are. This dude's ability to think rationally on many important things is just GONE. Trump broke this "enlightened" intellectual. I find this quite funny and the irony just beautiful.

Sam Harris on Kanye - "Trump is a really bad guy"

@bluebetty12

Жыл бұрын

Dale Lane!!! Haha nailed it!!

@enemyofthethrone

Жыл бұрын

Well you certainly missed the point.

@PHJoy

Жыл бұрын

@@enemyofthethrone got nuance?

@PHJoy

Жыл бұрын

@@enemyofthethrone or humor?

@firefly9838

Жыл бұрын

Where's the lie?

We need to allow people to be wrong even publicly. We need to trust that people can tell for themselves when something is wrong. Like rogan says, you have to let a bad idea get overcome by a better argument to defeat it. And they both have to be heard in order to do that

@dap777754

9 ай бұрын

Me, I wouldn't let the Fuhrer speak, not if it could somehow be prevented. At a certain point speech (when so hateful, dangerous and violent) can be indefensible. what's the old adage, "a lie travels around the world 3 times before the Truth has left your lips."

@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat

9 ай бұрын

Amen. I'd say *especially publicly. Creating an environment where no one is allowed to be wrong just makes everyone quietly sit and stew on all our worst thoughts, while we manage to find people online that agree with us regardless. To change your mind about something you have to realize you're wrong and you never realize you're wrong if you're not allowed to even speak the thought.

@jacobp8294

8 ай бұрын

​@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoatmoreover, when communities refuse to engage with their toxic members, that toxicity creates it's own subgroup, which eventually grows to resent the original. Ostracizing and exiling those that the majority disagree with has never worked.

@roems6396

8 ай бұрын

Except, if you are letting someone broadcast bad ideas, and aren’t actually “overcoming it with a better argument” in real time, or at least challenging it, then you run the risk of people accepting the first claim they heard and digging into their position regardless of better arguments. Have you heard what many Americans are claiming these days, despite the lack of evidence for their beliefs, and in the face of “better arguments?”

@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat

8 ай бұрын

@@roems6396 The real difference here is we think people should be allowed to think for themselves, while you believe someone else should be in charge of all the thinking for us.

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:02 🗣️ Navigating public criticism of acquaintances' behavior. - Ethical choices when publicly criticizing friends or acquaintances. - Private communication vs. public criticism. 03:04 💔 Kanye West's interview and the Power of Love philosophy. - The debate over Lex Fridman's interview with Kanye West. - The Power of Love philosophy in handling controversial guests. 05:36 🧠 Mental health and ethics in public conversations. - Sam Harris's concern about Kanye West's mental health. - Balancing empathy and responsible communication. 08:08 📢 Public vs. private conversations and their impact. - Discussing whether certain conversations should remain private. - The consequences of airing sensitive discussions publicly. 16:09 🌐 Addressing anti-Semitism and its societal implications. - Examining the challenges of addressing anti-Semitism. - The importance of responsible messaging when discussing sensitive topics. Made with HARPA AI

@BianicEpicVideos

4 ай бұрын

Thanks HARPA

I find Lex's interviews with these shunned members of society the most helpful. If they're evil or delusional, let them show it. If all I hear is that somebody is the worst, but I don't SEE what is so bad for myself, I'll never truly believe it, even if it's true. It's simple playground logic, but it still applies to the grown up world.

@julianleft4662

Жыл бұрын

Most people are dumb and sheep tho and it's not that they don't see right from wrong, it's that they willingly ignore the wrong and use these kind of interviews as a platform to push their own agendas and narratives. There's a reason right wingers and conservatives have strongly used Joe Rogan's platform in the past and benefitted from it. People in the comments simply don't understand the psychology behind "allowing fair play" when it comes to interviews and the people we give a platform to speak. We share more responsibility than we think. Especially people like Lex and Joe Rogan.

@matt41252

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, that logic doesn't work when people are putting forth uniquely harmful/insidious ideas, hence the example of Hitler.

@kmitchell9891

Жыл бұрын

Exactly this is why germs and other microscopic organism don't actually exist. I don't SEE them, therefor I don't need to wash my hands and can lick toilet bowls. Sure people say that they are bad. But I have never actually SEEN any germs, so they can't be bad for you. Only when my kidneys rupture from enterococci overload will I then believe.

@chtomlin

Жыл бұрын

Sam Harris is the shady interview... not a standup guy.

@sebm.5930

Жыл бұрын

You all seem to watch the videos but not listen.

"Over-explainers will take your silence as an acknowledgement of your incomplete understanding, and they’ll seek to rectify your ignorance while noting your willingness to learn."- Vizier

@nickg2691

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like Vizier just didn't know how to say "okay, got it"...

@natmanprime4295

Жыл бұрын

​@@nickg2691 you haven't got it. His silence could mean many things

@bleachcool1465

Жыл бұрын

At the same time I feel like Harris is somehow massively over simplifying systemic ailments and glaring holes of society. Which both Trump and Kanye are both a direct and indirect reflection of.

@billbob6247

Жыл бұрын

@@bleachcool1465 I think you can say trump is an example of that, Kanye no, not at all. Trump became the president via democracy. That’s evidence. Kanye was loud for a year and fell off the map with little care from anyone. They aren’t the same

@elisabethhowse

Жыл бұрын

Nice.

If Lex was actually concerned about hearing Kanye out and attempting to persuade him that his thinking is flawed, then he would have done it in private. The only reason Lex had him on was for a boost in views and subscribers, which fair enough that's a legit business move, but let's not pretend he had Kanye on for any other reason than that.

@reinforcedpenisstem

11 ай бұрын

Correct

@MrPDTaylor

10 ай бұрын

I love lamp

I agree with Sam in that people with mental illness shouldn’t be platformed for easy views when they’re clearly having a mental crisis. HOWEVER, out of everyone who interviewed him, lex did it best and came from a place of genuine good faith (as always). But in general, not a good idea to amplify someone’s mental health crisis to the world…

@keanugardiner7738

9 ай бұрын

No we should be. It's actually teaching us how to recognize mental illness and also it's our free will to decide how we want to react to it

@StygicHymn

4 ай бұрын

@@keanugardiner7738 this. OP has a point but Kanye is broadcasting his "mental illness" on his own anyways, Lex's interview is important because it brings Ye to the table for him to explain himself and let US decide. He made him comfortable to be open about what's been going on for better or for worse.

@princecheck11

4 ай бұрын

they only say he got mental health bc he says how he feels

I don't think anyone else would have tackled that Kanye interview better than Lex, at that specific time when the man was clearly going through a psychotic episode. But being said just because Sam doesn't like someone doesn't mean Lex can't show empathy or reverence towards another guest.

@carlandrews5810

Жыл бұрын

Sam is a batch.

@OryginTech

Жыл бұрын

Lex is literally a grifter who cosplays as this nice guy pseudo intellectual 😂 Sam is 💯 right on this.

@losteggwhites3381

Жыл бұрын

It wasn't a psychotic episode, but shoutout Lex for having Ye on

@bigkrumpahdaork6652

Жыл бұрын

@@OryginTech Trash take

@cannabros

Жыл бұрын

if you think that was a psychotic episode you've never been to an inner city school

I love when two people can have a big variation of opinion but can still chill and talk about it and continue a friendship/acquaintanceship

@LuiePool

Жыл бұрын

Yeah man, absolutely. And happily and respectfully letting each other finish. Or waiting patiently while the other thinks about the question, or the formulation of his answer. People all over America and Europe are talking about the great divide between the left and the right; the polarization that divides all our societies and even families. In my opinion, the real gap is THIS; people who have -discussions- conversations like gentlemen, versus people who turn every interaction with another human being into a Jersey Shore episode. People who are happy when they have gained new insights or a better understanding of a difficult subject, versus people who wake up and go to sleep very angry and considering themselves infallible.

@DC-pw6mo

Жыл бұрын

That’s the power of turning the other cheek an love…nothing naive about that !!! Team Lex, always

@DC-pw6mo

Жыл бұрын

The Power in turning the other cheek‼️ Sam Harris missed the point…perhaps

@carycimino7699

Жыл бұрын

@@DC-pw6moboth men are Jews who view the spewing of anti-semitism differently, one believes it’s mental illness the other pro formative

@aaronalvarado2481

11 ай бұрын

It’s called civil discourse.

great conversation. I believe there is something to both sides. I think its important to hear people and stay empathetic, but i also agree, that especially in the case of kanye, that he needs somebody who educates him and stands firm for the truth.

@dinobotpwnz

7 ай бұрын

@@ginxxxxx Except he talks to Charles Murray, Scott Adams, Eric Weinstein, Ezra Klein and tons of people who disagree with him. He talks to someone when there would be value to it. That's it.

@maxfairclough3600

7 ай бұрын

No@@ginxxxxx, @dinobotpwnz is correct. Sorry but hate when someone trys to portray themself as confidently correct. You are wrong. Take the L. Thanks.

@maxfairclough3600

7 ай бұрын

@@ginxxxxx yeah you have no idea so don’t say as much. Thanks for coming.

@maxfairclough3600

7 ай бұрын

@@ginxxxxx this has nothing to do with that. You’re sounding deranged. Please seek medical attention.

@6:10 to 6:20 Perfect. Sam Harris summarized. Crated a set of options where he's right. Made it look like choice. Left out other choices. Then denied the possibility that he could be wrong using language that exposed his subconscious. While lex opened the possibility and had a laugh, self deprecating and funny. Thank you Lex! Keep at it.

@scarygary5678

Жыл бұрын

Perfect summation. And very fair. Much more fair than am ever am I when forming critiques of Sam

@gvlacic21

Жыл бұрын

@The Wandering M what's wild is that he's kind of the internet authority on ego death and free will not existing. Yet his own ego is wild. Almost like he's a Shang Tsung of other's egos. Goes to debate and collect their egos, whines and "refuses to entertain" arguments, people, and religions he deems to be unworthy of his time. Like a child playing games who only wants to win to feed their own ego.

@USmetallist

Жыл бұрын

Establishing FRAME ...sort of thing?

@CarlosHfam

Жыл бұрын

Sam is right here though. You can't compare Sam Harris with Kanye west and the things that Kanye had said about people versus what Sam had said about people. This "people are just the same side of the coin" bullshit is what gets people like Trump, and now possibly God forbid, Kanye, into office.

@enemyofthethrone

Жыл бұрын

Except he's exactly right though. You can be mad about it but it doesn't change that fact.

Censorship is never good. If someone has ideas that are extreme, their ideologies should be confronted and challenged publicly, not hidden or pushed down - obfuscated or ignored. That is cowardice.

@JiminyCrickets

Жыл бұрын

100% agree. Not only is this cowardice but it also pushes those beholders of extreme ideas to the underground where they are then allowed to ferment through the power of their echo chamber and the frustration of not being able to speak their mind will transform their crappy opinions into something more extreme. I rather have everyone be able to talk their mind which allows then everyone else to make up their mind about them. If someone wants to make an ass out of themselves then everyone should be able to see that. The problem is, that the people that advocate for censorship always pretend that the public is full of idiots who cant handle the truth. In the end, censorship limits ones full expression, forces opposing views into secrecy, and ontop of that also insults the public as stupid. I fail to see the good of any of those outcomes.

@user-tp5vv3kg7h

Жыл бұрын

Not inviting someone on your podcast is not censorship. By that standard, every person that hasn't yet been on his podcast is being censored. The problem with Ye isn't that he is extreme, it's that he is incoherent in his statements and has nothing to bring to the table. You don't need to go out of your way and broadcast every crazy person you found on the NYC subway to make sure that you're not suppressing speech.

Hey Lex! Why haven't you published an episode with Arestovish? Thanks.

@kakatuaOfficial

8 ай бұрын

because you have to be someone

I dont understand why the 3 possibilities are: mental illness, asshole, or both. Why is there no possibility that there was merits to what he said? Why cant that even be considered as a 4th option?

@dr.corneliusq.cadbury6984

3 ай бұрын

Harris is working from the premise that rational, reasonable “anti-Semitism” is not possible, i.e., it is inherently irrational and/or “evil.”

“Sunlight is the best disinfectant.” Words to live by, Sam…

@ImHeadshotSniper

Жыл бұрын

UV light has disinfectant properties...................... this does not mean it's valid treatment for a virus which is hidden from the sun. also Trump said even dumber shit such as "injecting people with disinfectant" as well as "exposing people to sunlight" which is retard science.

@billbob6247

Жыл бұрын

He also says no amount of sunlight stops a fire in fact if it’s focused sunlight you make the fire worse. Sometime water is the only response to a fire.

@timnelson3431

Жыл бұрын

@@billbob6247 Sometimes water makes the fire worse, especially with a chemical (imbalance) fire. In that case you need to smother... wait... this is turning dark

@marcoantonioromerovargasga7913

Жыл бұрын

Very disappointing from Sam Harris this clip.

@brunoangioni1102

Жыл бұрын

@@timnelson3431 Is this a real life "you're both pretty" moment? lol kzread.info/dash/bejne/nn6J3LJukc6wmZc.html

Never go full condescending. Sam is there now.

@slangsd

Жыл бұрын

I think Sam suppresses a lot of his anger and it comes off as condescending. He might be calm on the outside, but I sense he is full of frustration on the inside. Mind and body are not in harmony.

@JADiaz10

Жыл бұрын

It’s hard not to when the other person is dumb as sh*t

@RealPeteRyan

Жыл бұрын

@@JADiaz10 who here is dumb?

@RealPeteRyan

Жыл бұрын

@@slangsd Yeah I could see that!

@madallas_mons

Жыл бұрын

​@@slangsd He's one of those people who keeps it together in public and then loses his mind breaking things and yelling when he gets home

Certainly we need to be able to better disagree with each other which includes giving and receiving criticism

At a certain point after THOUSANDS of years you have to ask yourself “is it something that I’m doing?”

Id prefer to hear someone talk and express their mind/ideas openly, and me decide how credible/noteworthy those ideas and person are. Kanye showed me a lot in that interview, and Kanye's words made it clear what Kanye is thinking. Everyone is vulnerable to ideas, but the best way to counter bad ideas is better ideas, and shutting down conversation does not let that process happen.

@AJGoldie

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but the argument wasn’t, “you should not have had the conversation in the first place” the argument was “I personally don’t believe releasing the conversation that I just saw is going to have an overall positive effect on society.” He is making the argument that the conversation, as conducted by lex AND Kanye, failed at whatever lex was attempting to accomplish, for the very reason, that Lex didn’t counter those bad ideas well enough.

@towntwo451

Жыл бұрын

@@AJGoldie yes, Sam is correct. And Sleepy Fridman aired that for clout. Sold out his own tribe for views. Kapo

@pubpiss-zn1ez

Жыл бұрын

"The best way to counter bad ideas is with good ideas" tell that to hitler when he took over Germany

@vladtheinhaler8940

Жыл бұрын

​@@AJGoldie American society is in moral decay already.

@vladtheinhaler8940

Жыл бұрын

​@@pubpiss-zn1ez That must be one of the only parts of history that most Americans seem to know, and they don't even know much about that time period. Stop comparing everything with Nazi Germany.

Sam, chill. Lex, you know what you’re doing. Keep doing it. Thanks

@firefly9838

Жыл бұрын

So we can't give pushback to a nut like Kanye. Very based take🙄

I'm a strong believer that you cannot get offended at people that think different when they are thinking different even when they say things that are grotest and insulting. They sometimes don't see the social implications on a conversation, nor do they see any social cues and they tend to think very abstractly.

I will never respect someone who censors speech no matter how absurd it is. Let the people make up their own minds.

I think it is much more valuable to have an open and honest discourse and let people decide for themselves, rather than censoring and preventing information just because there are "risks" in spreading a harmful message. The news that Kanye said some crazy shit was already widely spread, and thanks to Lex I have a much better understanding of where he is coming from and why he is behaving that way. People who will only derive the worst conclusion will do so anyway no matter what we do.

@vladokingsley297

Жыл бұрын

Shut up Asian you don’t get to have an opinion on Americans

@andrews2441

Жыл бұрын

100%. Sam believes he has the right to withhold information about the world from you because he knows better than you how to structure the world. We’re just not smart enough to understand.

@JohnSmith-ry7wh

Жыл бұрын

Duh this is why God gave us freewill

@sai_69

Жыл бұрын

The way you put it makes it more palatable, but the overall message is blatantly wrong. The more Andrew Tate's and Kanye's we have in our public discourse, the more are the ideas similar to his normalised, making an average person with a limited worldview more likely to shift to a position a bit more towards that side. It doesn't have to be the worst possible take. It's enough to have sufficient amount of people say "Ah, but he does make some sense."

@israahmad1981

Жыл бұрын

@@sai_69 yup exactly. It is dangerous. Ask ex-nazis. They didnt really know what they were following. Most people are easily fooled.

"I'm going to do everyone a favor , and take the foot out of your mouth" ... followed by "I don't think the conversation should've been aired" is unfortunate and concerning from Sam . Very surprising that a man who holds himself in such a high regard is THAT anti-freedom of speech. No matter how you feel about it , everyone had the right to say it. If it is offensive or delusional, then you disregard it. People should be able to critically think for themselves and choose things that bring more light to life , that should ultimately be what we strive for , not controlling what is available.

@j.allenhood7429

Жыл бұрын

Sam has really exposed himself as completely ego0centric and blind to his own failings. A trap wise sages don't fall into, and one he has sprung on himself.

@FilipCordas

Жыл бұрын

He is an ethnosupremacist and he feels someone is questioning his superiority so all morals and reasoning no longer apply. He has the right to 'free speech' about the Muslims but not the other way around that's how that works.

@IronFilmProductions

Жыл бұрын

He’s not arguing against free speech, Kanye is and forever will be free to speak his mind publicly in any way he can and Sam said nothing against that. Sam is criticizing the decision from Lex’s point of view to air the conversation with Kanye given the circumstances of what Kanye said and his current mental state. Sam is implying the responsibility that Lex has because of his large platform, Lex has control over what “free-speech” is said on his podcast. Not all free-speech is beneficial to society as a whole. Hateful, nonfactual speech is hard to argue for as being beneficial free speech, especially when said to such a large audience. The problem is that too many people AREN’T critical and DON’T disregard ideas that are clearly delusional, just take all the lies and hate spread in US politics that so many people believe blindly. Or just look at the very anti-semitism that has plagued society for so long, based on hatred and nonfactual claims that has murdered millions of people. Speech should always be free but to pretend that some speech isn’t dangerous is ridiculous. People with platforms that intend to educate should be aware of this and critical of what is said on their platforms.

@turboflutter9325

Жыл бұрын

@J. Allen Hood well said

@ChoppedBananas

Жыл бұрын

@@IronFilmProductions I find that most people on the internet have a 7 year old's grasp of what free speech actually means. Well said by the way.

Brilliant conversation. They both presented very real and very deep points in a calm, respectful, and articulate way. You gotta love it.

@mattberg6816

Жыл бұрын

Imagine what a wonderful place the world would be if everyone left their ego at home and discussed different opinions like these gentlemen.

@floorijzerman

Жыл бұрын

​@@mattberg6816 yeah nothing would change, everything is ideals with these people. we need visionairies like kanye sam "good vibes" harris

@mattberg6816

Жыл бұрын

@@floorijzerman Kanye “hitler was a great guy” west

@1whippple1

Жыл бұрын

@@mattberg6816 ​ Dude they’re talking about Kanye… 😂😂😂 I love that this is your “seemingly” first encounter of civil discourse! 😂 Just the most ridiculous/niche thing “oh golly, they really went into this one in good faith!”

@mattberg6816

Жыл бұрын

@@1whippple1 yeah bud it’s wall to wall civil discourse in media these days. I can’t believe I forgot.

If we use the "Moral Landscape Methodology" which I've half made up just now from Sams book, the conversation could have been so much worse or categorically "bad". I think if it had gone that way the conversation he did have in the end would be comparatively a success in my opinion since Kanye didn't walk off or cause a scene. It could have been more exposing or calling him out but I don't think that would be a success, only entertaining.

11:28 Sam describes himself to Lex's audience.

@Asdfgfdmn

Жыл бұрын

True

@Dschinghiss

Жыл бұрын

lmaooo true

@danielbad5910

Жыл бұрын

lol

@noavocadoanymore

Жыл бұрын

:D

@watercave4905

Жыл бұрын

Facts

All I've learned from this video is if you list things in 3s, you sound super smart

@allts6501

Жыл бұрын

I think if he talks slowly enough and draws his words out more I might j 💤

I have so much respect for both points of view. At the time I watched Lex’s interview with Kanye, I thought it was a little risky to do so, and I wanted to learn more about Kanye (not a fan of him or his music, just because I’ve never been interested) and I tried to understand him. But the whole time I got the sense that he was very ill. I respect lex for having a conversation with him, and for wanting to understand this views. I also respect that Sam took issue with it - it could be seen as giving him a bigger platform. But conversations are hard. Intense conversations are harder.

I was just thinking about winning arguments, you can win all arguments that can be possibly created or existed but may still not be able to convince a heart.

The problem with sam is he fails to see his very own cognitive biases, he accuses others of not seeing.

@lowang8831

Жыл бұрын

He is great in dodge ball

@scottstorchfan

Жыл бұрын

Like which ones?

@cephas5053

Жыл бұрын

@@scottstorchfan let’s try his views on Trump for starters 🤣😂. Sam Harris is the epitome of God making the self proclaimed WISE foolish. It’s very sad

@luther-pd5uy

Жыл бұрын

@@cephas5053 half the world must be foolish by your logic then for their views on Trump. You are the EPITOME of FOOLISH.

@marks658

Жыл бұрын

@@cephas5053 "Hunter could have literally had the corpses of children in his basement. I would not have cared." - Sam Harris

Lex your analogy you’ve used in the past regarding Dostoyevsky’s The Idiot is spot on. That’s basically what’s going on and Sam even went so far to call your tactic naive… keep on bro, it’s not competition; we in this together and love is the answer. No one is ever a lost cause

@SteadyAimCinema

Жыл бұрын

no one is ever a lost cause, is a naive statement, although it is true we should care for others at some point u may need boundaries

@easonthomas4239

Жыл бұрын

@@SteadyAimCinema any given in life is a naive mindset so what's the point in trying then?

@SteadyAimCinema

Жыл бұрын

@@easonthomas4239 could you elaborate? What do you mean by any given?

@sebm.5930

Жыл бұрын

Sam's approach is better. Learn and understand the fallacy of tolerance.

@Atlas-Shrugs

Жыл бұрын

​@@sebm.5930 I agree with you on tolerance being a negative at a certain point, but as a media personality your job isn't to tell me what I can and cannot be tolerant of. Produce interesting content with interesting people and allow your audience to decide what they want to tolerate.

If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love- I am nothing.

Something that I'm not sure was addressed is: "Did Lex use Kanye like a PR tool, and was it cruel to do so, given that it is unfair to use such a person in that way, who could truly be suffering from a very specific and painful mental illness?" Whether or not Kanye suffers from Bi-Polar disorder (there are four subcategories of this disease with very different presentations, so it makes things even more difficult to parse out) is probably not up to interpretation. And if so, a college educated person should be able to recognize this. Add to this the American propensity towards the cult of personality. We give a wide berth to celebrities, and not always to the betterment of society.

@julianwhitee

Жыл бұрын

He def used him for views.

I absolutely love Lex just for this-- he always speaks with respect and a genuine desire to learn and understand from the people he interviews, all while keeping his own standards, and without it disintegrating into a heated argument with them. it's so nice to hear in today's world.

@neptune9443

Жыл бұрын

Then why does he block almost everyone who criticizes him?

@cisium1184

Жыл бұрын

@@neptune9443 Does he? Would you care to share your evidence for this claim? I'm skeptical as to how you would know whom a complete stranger blocks; assuming you have evidence, the claim that such person blocks "almost everyone etc." demands not just evidence of any blocking but lots of evidence specifically to support the high frequency of blocking you allege; after all of which you haven't specified a particular forum or fora in which this blocking occurs. In short, your claim sounds like the idle, sloppy throwaway of someone with an agenda - which is an impression serious people with serious thoughts avoid, especially before they have even presented their case. TLDR: Sounds made up, dude.

@MrBrandonLau

Жыл бұрын

@@cisium1184 crickets

@neptune9443

Жыл бұрын

@@cisium1184 you're just out of loop

@antonego9581

11 ай бұрын

​@@cisium1184try posting some mild criticism to his reddit

Is Sam really lecturing Lex on how to navigate difficult conversations when he himself refuses to have any.

@danwhiffen9235

Жыл бұрын

I can’t believe that I really admired Sam’s critical thinking and use of precise language at one point… it’s shocking how far he has fallen in my eyes. He is no longer an intellectual…

@cheflev9884

Жыл бұрын

@@danwhiffen9235 I share your general frustration regarding Sam. I still view him as a public intellectual that frankly made many mistakes. Thats fine with me. What bothers me is his refusal to debate his critics. It's not about who is right or wrong or how much of the audience is persuaded. It's the simple fact that he refuses to engage them. I want these public intellectuals to debate each other like how UFC mixed martial artists fight. It's for us the audience to witness and come to our own conclusions. Instead of derp derp fart platforming bad!

@Moises505130

Жыл бұрын

@@cheflev9884 it seems to me that he refuses to argue with them probably because it would expose that he's not always in the right. Critical debate leads to the expulsion of poorly constructed ideas. I think he'd rather be comfortable in thinking he's right than getting closer to truth

@cheflev9884

Жыл бұрын

@@Moises505130 I agree with you 💯! It’s ironic that all these years of Buddhist training and meditation lead to his dissolving of “free will” and not his ego

@Moises505130

Жыл бұрын

@@cheflev9884 agreed, that's why it's been so frustrating seeing him the way he has been these past few years. I guess we have to take it with a grain of salt

Ancient Chinese proverb I think, it’s hard to cut off the nose of somebody and ask them to smell a rose. I get what you’re putting down lex

I really hope this conversation doesn’t affect who Lex interviews and how he interviews them. It’s my favorite thing about him.

Sam is speaking from an emotive standpoint. He should have listened more during this podcast.

@fabolousjada5070

Жыл бұрын

Facts how about us blacks that know they make money of us look what lyor cohen said about why he signs killers he said “ I got to make m on ey somehow “ shits sick the way these people get mad as if their the special ones

@ItsMe-yv9jd

Жыл бұрын

In a 'perfect world' everyone would get along... the reality is that there are blacks that don't like jews and there are jews that don't like blacks. It makes sense that a jewish person would be offended by a personal attack, but does a jew get offended when a black is being personally attacked and decides to say something and stand up for the black person? (Until such time as the jewish community makes more of an effort to defend non jews that are being attacked and chooses to condemn jews that attack others, then jews have no reason to expect (or demand) others speak up and stand up for them.

@nrk9857

Жыл бұрын

@@ItsMe-yv9jd What on earth are you even trying to express there? What is even the analogy in this case

Keep on loving and trying to see the human in others lex. It's not always perfect but it spreads humanity

@firefly9838

Жыл бұрын

It's naive too. I'd like to see you claim "just love" when it comes to other anti-semites like Hitler.

@austincaruso7596

Жыл бұрын

@@firefly9838 you're right. It doesnt always work for every situation.

@kurtolson6065

Жыл бұрын

Giving a friendly platform to hate is never a good idea. Might be good for ratings but not society.

@ImHeadshotSniper

Жыл бұрын

@@kurtolson6065 good point. Lex did NOT want Kanye to speak his mind. he made every effort to try to change Kanye's mind by simply stating that he was wrong. unfortunately, this attitude does not work at all with people who are stuck on a belief. they require you asking small fundamental questions until we can determine something like Kanye does not support fundamental racism, yet is racist.

@TubaTones

Жыл бұрын

@@firefly9838don’t think Kanye has killed 6 million Jews…. Yet

How altruistic of Lex that he gets to host Kanye in the middle of an antisemitic tirade, get millions of views and maintain a friendly relationship and access to Kanye, all in the name of teaching the audience to be compassionate and turning the other cheek. Please.

Gotta love that he replaces his analysis of Kanye’s mental health over text/DM versus Kanye having openly spoken about his being diagnosed bipolar, having struggled with it, and having taken medication for it in the past. Get ready for an insightful interview with Charlie Sheen next time he’s full of tiger’s blood 😂

Sam calling someone else an asshole is rich

@PHJoy

Жыл бұрын

Well put, Geo. I would say it takes one to know one, but Sam's so far out of touch he deserves a trophy.

@trainingrifle

Жыл бұрын

@@PHJoy kinda like Neil and Nye.

@PHJoy

Жыл бұрын

@@trainingrifle okay, yeah... there are a few contenders for the title

@jbootyification

Жыл бұрын

Lol...just commented he's a soft spoken A-Hole 😂😂😂

“The display of you willing to do that, has power” Lex means, if you’re intentionally kind & loving towards those who you disagree with, that that in itself has power. Which is really love.

@PhilosophicalGospelPodcast

Жыл бұрын

Loving your enemy; the Gospel message.

@Spicy_Spores

Жыл бұрын

Exactly right. it can disarm them too, because they're always primed and tensed up for an argument, and you can watch people start to soften and weaken in their kind of "solid" mind state and come to some sort of agreement, and it just becomes two people talking, it can be really beautiful. but of course not everyone is like that, but that's not important, whats important is you reaching out that kindness and love in the first place while still standing your own ground and also with a flexible mind.

@RicardoPicena

Жыл бұрын

@@Spicy_Spores 😎🙏 yes! What a beautiful soul you are! Thank you for that resonance & may you continue to spread your love & light fam 🌹❤️

@susy590

Жыл бұрын

Love is power. And sadly, Sam sounds like an angry man these days. He has given anger power over him. Which leaves precious little room in his heart for love. Seems like he's starting to lose love for himself. Must be frightening for him.

I wouldn't say artists are wierdos per say. From a normal person's perspective maybe; but its art & "wierd" art often turns out to be art that is ahead of its time. Great conversation btw❤

I think Sam has a little touch of what Kanye has, he clearly thinks his moral compass is the most righteous path through life and what’s best for humanity. But there’s quite a lot of people who would disagree. I personally think his views on empathy has turned the corner into doing more harm then good with a lot of what he preaches. Empathy and logic need to be weighed out with most big issues

“gale force nonsense” is a fantastic description of Kanye

Bad ideas can only be beating with good ideas. If you silence bad ideas in public, they only fester in private. I'm glad Lex interviewed Kanye.

@loosecannon6142

Жыл бұрын

Great point

We need more people like Lex that opens up the doors for communication with opposing views to our own. If we simply Cancel people, how will they grow? How will their resentment NOT turn in to hate?

@sandcastledx

Жыл бұрын

Why is it our responsibility to make people grow? If we just invade Germany and stop hitler from taking over the world, how will he come to realize that he's wrong on his own? At some point this compassion is just stupidity or being extremely naïve.

@TimPool.BeanieCivilWarlord

Жыл бұрын

Sam Harris has always been this way, it’s just that conservatives never noticed because Harris was agreeing with their views on Islam. The cracks for Harris emerged during his debates with Daniel Dennett about free will. Dennett’s approach was that it’s interesting, but ultimately fruitless argument. Harris was dead set that it needed to figured out and that if free will doesn’t exist, then it should be hidden from people because that truth would cause them to go insane and destroy humanity. It’s Sam navel gazing and panicking over imaginary shit while Dennett sits there thinking “whatever, nobody cares about this shit and even if it was true, a lot of people wouldn’t even believe it.”

@DR.DisInfect

Жыл бұрын

😆

@joehenry9546

Жыл бұрын

@@DR.DisInfect , 🙄🖕

@treeforged9097

Жыл бұрын

Sam has discussions with people with opposing views more often then Lex does because Lex mostly agrees with everyone. Its not that Kanye disagrees with him, its that Kanye is potentially having a serious mental break down which people are making worse by just going along with it, as if it were a reasonable position to have. There are millions of people who believe the exact same things Kanye does, he is not an original thinker, if you ever go to a trailer park and talk to random people, some of them will say the same anti Jewish conspiracies Kanye does. The only reason anyone is talking about Kanye is because he is famous for mainstream music, why should we be giving him any attention, I would rather hear a random guy from a trailer park saying these things, at least then I would actually believe he is being genuine.

Agree with both but leaning towards Sam Harris’ reasoning, it’s just well laid out in this clip

As a black man growing up in PHILADELPHIA which has the largest population of black Muslims in America I can tell you that Sam is WAY off when talking about Jewish hate in black communities. Kids playing "knock out" is aimed at EVERYONE -- Not just orthodox Jews.

I’ve never engaged with Sam before and I’m sort of glad. This was so disappointing to watch. He became so hyper focused on the point of the conversation with Kanye ONLY being about Kanye when Lex emphasized multiple times the benefit to everyone else in just witnessing the conversation happening. I found this podcast because of the Kanye interview and I’m left of center with most of my political opinions. Sam saying that even listening with love is like a gale force storm of nonsense is so arrogantly dismissive. Lex, keep doing what you’re doing. Love is the most powerful force in the world. End of story. I find Sam pitiable that he doesn’t recognize that.

@ChrisARC

Жыл бұрын

Are you a grown man? Serious question. If Kanye were an individual preaching outright White Supremacy, no one would be spewing this "Love" trope; people would be criticizing the man. Sam only holds anti-Semitism as an ideology that is as bad as other racial ideologies, and that's why his opinion is what it is. Everyone wants to make excuses for Kanye because of his celebrity status, etc. No other individual would be as apologized for as a manic rapper. lmao

@outdoorloser4340

Жыл бұрын

Sam is highly over rated. You haven't missed much he's been wrong about everything important for the past 5 years.

@michaelwinters2574

Жыл бұрын

For real. Sam has been on a downward spiral for years. Still more intelligent than myself, but, he lets his emotions guide him now, and being a slow deliberate speaker cannot disguise it.

@juice2620

Жыл бұрын

Hell yeah man you are spot on.

@rubenvela7408

Жыл бұрын

Sam is spot on here. Most podcasters are now putting entertainment and spectacle as the #1 priority. How does no one sees what’s wrong with broadcasting a guys’ psychotic manic episode to millions of people? Even if your main priority is showing love to Kanye, the most loving thing to do would be have a private conversation with him and help him seek mental help.

If you want to feel like you did the right thing, use Sam’s strategy.. if you want to actually help people who need it, use Lex’s

@paulryan2128

Жыл бұрын

Around minute 14, Sam makes clear that culturally, he is an American Jew, and that Kanye's anti-semitism (AS) is/was extreme. Given the historic record of AS from Rome to Spain, England, Russia, Poland and Germany, as well as ALL the Middle East, it does not surprise *or* offend me when an influential Jew in America makes vigorous criticism of any AS rants. And that would include this "musical genius", Kanye.

@mkupka1

Жыл бұрын

@@paulryan2128 I’m not defending Kanye’s positions in the slightest. The way I understood it, Lex’s goal seems to be to challenge ideas with empath, compared to condemnation. I think if the goal is to change someone’s mind, challenging with empathy is more likely to create change

@israahmad1981

Жыл бұрын

@@mkupka1 I think most of the world has learned from WW2, that its not very safe to give anti sematics a platform to spread their message. Many ex-nazis have said they were convinced and thought they were right due to Hitler’s speeches. I think Lex naively believes in the good of people.

@brad1928

Жыл бұрын

Yes, because Kanye and his bipolar disorder just need “love”

@scottstorchfan

Жыл бұрын

@@mkupka1 Would you be empathetic if hitler was on the podcast? Don’t be so open your brain falls out.

Sam Harris is like the intellectual voice inside of my head. Every time he talks I'm always feeling like "ah yes, what the smartest side of me has to say." He is so sensical and seemingly so often spot on...lotta respect to that guy 🤙🏻

@yc5141

9 ай бұрын

Eww not even close. Sam is the one with the mental illness Lol

@2002honda954

9 ай бұрын

Same here. I only wish I could be so articulate.

@damonthomas2975

9 ай бұрын

@@2002honda954 I'm so happy someone else understands what I'm saying. My thoughts think as Sam Harris says. I'm not near as good as him at articulating those thoughts however. It's cool you understand me on that level and have the same dilemma so to speak.

It's also crazy to me that Sam advocates not having conversations and not bringing conversations to the public.

@timnelson3431

Жыл бұрын

Something changed in him, and I think that was Trump. I remember him acting all irrationally about Trump when he was first elected. We all knew that Trump was a narcissist but we also knew every other president before him was also a narcissist. Look at how Obama acts. He gets on stage and is completely snarky and demeaning. They are all the same, but Sam just went off the rails after that.

@violent_bebop9687

Жыл бұрын

It's very obvious that he's 100% a statist, there can only be ONE official story and everything else is not even considered. EVERYTHING must be done behind the scenes to match the OFFICIAL story.

@matthewnunya100

Жыл бұрын

It's very obvious everything he said went right over your head

@matthewnunya100

Жыл бұрын

The problem is that lex didn't have a backbone during his interview with Kanye and allowed him to say some outlandish things without rebuttal

@guitarandrums

Жыл бұрын

@@timnelson3431 the problem is trump tells so many lies that you physically cannot call it out in real time. You cannot keep up with it. The problem with conversations with people like Kanye or a flat early is that they drop so many false facts at once that you simply cannot address all of them.

Imma let you finish but Kanye interview was the greatest of all time.

@shoncurtis767

Жыл бұрын

Lolllll yeah

@jonxthxn1

Жыл бұрын

Nah

@AlbinoBaller22

Жыл бұрын

Fitting username

@megaape

Жыл бұрын

Vibez

@vickydjatt

Жыл бұрын

A fish brain has ~100,000 neurons while an average human has ~90 billion neurons

That is a great example of two people who respect each other and respectfully arguing their points on a minefield subject, giving a platform to someone who can influence negatively upon society. I agree with Sam's assessment here and find Lex's argument weak. It seemed Lex was simply looking for the ability to justify a poor decision of having someone famous on his podcast and negating the weight of responsibility he had to his audience. I think Lex is amazing BTW, he is a great mind. On this topic though I have to completely agree with Sam.

@chino7316

7 ай бұрын

You're just inviting the Streisand effect at that point. You'll also invite people to seek other platforms, further increasing polarization within the public's discourse. Bad ideas need to be defeated by good ideas out in the open, point blank.

Sam Harris is the kinda guy that wants to be your friend but sends you a letter beforehand with all the reasons why you shouldn't be friends.

The world needs truth and the world needs difficult conversations to happen and be seen. Shame on Sam for not realizing that.

@rubenvela7408

Жыл бұрын

Are you kidding? Sam has been having difficult conversations for the past like 20 years. Some conversations aren’t worth having, at least none in a masturbatory public display of mental illness.

Sam’s idea is basically that transparency is bad when it comes to sticky conversations. And that people like him and lex should be the judge of what we “regular, everyday people” get to intake as information. Yeah no thanks Sam, I’m with lex on this 100%. I trust my own intuition enough to confidently form my own opinions.

@KillerBrees

Жыл бұрын

You nailed it

@2beJT

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I realize he's the over-stepping overlord type from this.

@kh-fk3ko

Жыл бұрын

interestingly, when he comes to religion and support of Israel everything is ok with sam, but when it comes to critizing that nature of things. its not ok. idk why people take same harris seriously.

@Chris.4345

Жыл бұрын

Whether you like it or not, Lex & Sam & other public intellectuals get to decide when and how you get some of your information, by interviewing and platforming people. They HAVE to judge and discriminate the people they choose to interview and who they interview. Not everyone deserves or can be interviewed by Lex; so by definition Lex gets to choose the information or perspectives you’re allowed to consider on his platform.

@2beJT

Жыл бұрын

Your assumption is false. We are not limited to only getting info here. You have the entire world wide web of info. So.. nope. Stop with the platforming crap as if we should get to dictate whether people should be heard or not. Hear everyone you MIGHT even want to. Now go make your own platform with your record function on your phone and stop blaming lex/giving lex power to control all your info.

I just smoked weed so I really don’t care about the conversation. I am still able to feel that it’s about smoothing things out for the good of all, but idc about the person being spoken about, or whatever he did to merit attention from these two. It’s not my issue. If you’re going to respond with it benefits everyone etc, that’s relative to your position on earth. Like a pebble dropped in the ocean, its ripples won’t reach very far. This issue is far from my position in life. And I think it’s a waste of time.

highly recommend Sam-Lex conversations to anyone who has trouble falling asleep.

Sam believes in censorship. That scares me. Lex is civil in his pushback. That gives me hope.

@2FadeMusic

7 ай бұрын

Deciding who is and isn't worth allowing on your platform of millions of viewers isn't "censorship" . . . . . .

@MrPowerMaxPower

7 ай бұрын

@@2FadeMusictelling someone else who and who not to have on their podcast is censorship. This is Lex Friedman's show, not Sam Harris's. Yet here he is trying to shame a grown man for having a public conversation with a grown man. Sam Harris with real power would be a dangerous egotistical individual.

"Hunter could have literally had the corpses of children in his basement. I would not have cared." - Sam Harris

@siamsiraji3169

Жыл бұрын

😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Kevon420

Жыл бұрын

Hunters usually do that. Nowadays hunters don’t really exist though.

@bidwell7017

Жыл бұрын

Make a T-shirt!

@derekjetter4039

Жыл бұрын

we know what same Harris does care about.

@gorgts1563

Жыл бұрын

He said he would not have cared as it related to his father’s election race. Nice try

I’m not Jewish, however I’ve never really understood antisemitism. It truly baffles me.

Sam Harris is basically saying Daryl Davis (the black man who befriended KK k members and got over 200 to quit) was wrong and should never have done what he's done. And the peaceful, treat everyone with respect approach has been one of the most powerful methods mankind has

@Conn30Mtenor

Жыл бұрын

But Sam has the right to not talk to assholes and anti Semites. He's not required to engage with them.

lex is different and is not going to interview someone the way Sam would or anyone. he’s true to himself. Just like lex said the best thing is to make it simple n true. I think lex did a great job in that interview with Kanye with everything he had to deal with. But would love to maybe see an interview with Sam an Kanye im sure it’s not as easy as it sounds in ur mind.

It’s funny how everything Sam mentioned about Kanye applies to himself as well. 14:00 to 15:40 is a summary of what Kanye is coming from. So much respect to you Lex for understanding both sides and trying to offer love as a common ground for all..

@austinhandsinmotion

Жыл бұрын

🎯

@JoshWalker1

Жыл бұрын

Seriously lol

@gerardochavez-vh2bw

Жыл бұрын

Carl Jung said everything that bothers you about others tells about your own inner conflicts

@spenceredwardmullen5957

Жыл бұрын

What are you talking about

@lisasolier504

Жыл бұрын

You read my mind.

"I hate the words anti-semitism and racism because it describes people I want to bring on my podcast."

Lex. I’ve heard you say that sometimes you read comments so I hope you’ll see this. Your motive was not lost on me or others I’ve spoken to. Even though the conversation in the end seemed to devolve despite your best efforts, I got to hear Kanye West speak for himself without a spin and that helped me reach my own conclusion. Anyone of us can become subject to media spin and the ability to get on platforms and demonstrate who you are objectively is so important. Thank you Lex. Much love from NY.

Lex is behaving always like such a gentleman and and a kind soul that in my opinion nobody who watches him could become more antiemetic by watching him. The opposite would be the case I think.

@benrashall7195

Жыл бұрын

Well he definitely makes me want to throw up.

@ryanhughes1101

Жыл бұрын

He’s Jewish so very unlikely.

@craigr4763

Жыл бұрын

Antiemetic? How do you mean that? Not taking the word literally and supplanting it with what I assume you were trying to say given the context around the word, I would argue against you. Just check the comments of the other recently uploaded clips with Sam. Plenty of people watch Lex purely for confirmation of their own bias. Stupid people think they're smart. I don't profess to be saying anything profound in pointing that out, but it's worth reiterating. Literally every other comment on the other uploads is people calling Sam "stupid". Sadly, that's a lot of Lex's audience, although not all. The point, however, is that I believe you are mistaken (imagining what I think you were trying to say).

@MrRENEGADE911

Жыл бұрын

Indeed listening to lex reduces my nausea and makes me less likely to throw up

@TubaTones

Жыл бұрын

@@benrashall7195why?

As a Jewish person, Lex represents so much of the genuine Christian ideas and aspects of a true Christian upbringing that many others who call themselves Christian are missing. He’s spreading love, and trying to not pass judgement, and applying his massive intellect to help others.

@JohnCenaFan6298

Жыл бұрын

Passing judgment is deeply christian. God does it all thr time

@jeyfomson6364

Жыл бұрын

Exactly !!

@colbyzur4642

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnCenaFan6298 as Christians we are actually told not to pass judgement, judgement is only for God, the problem is many Christians DO pass judgement “gays are going to hell” only God can see the heart and determine where someone goes.

@colbyzur4642

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnCenaFan6298 “He who is without sin cast the first stone.” “Remove the plank from your own eye before removing the speck from your brothers eye”

@jryanw1159

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnCenaFan6298 passing judgment is for God to do. We Christians are not supposed to judge at all. Those who do are outside of God’s will.

Never thought I would say this but I actually agree with Sam. Kanye interview was entertaining but not productive in terms of social discourse and I also suspect had a negative effect. Also agree Lex can be quite naive about love. I'm a white dude but interested in politics around black identity, pan-afrikanism etc... A lot of social media accounts in these spaces were sharing clips of Kanye from Lex's interview and presenting Kanye's remarks positively. Additionally, I live in Indonesia; anti-semitism is quite strong here. I saw clips being circulated where the community here thought Kanye was speaking truth. I literally know Indonesians who were taught anti-semitic conspiracies in school less than 10 years ago. The point is, I think a predominately Western, educated, white audience who listens to Lex can easily see what Kanye was saying is absurd but people from a different community, background, or country might not.

What 'turning the other cheek' signals that you value an ultimately positive outcome despite the current circumstance, and how it came to be, so to speak.

Difference here is that Sam assumes that the audience is stupid, and Lex doesn't.

@godisbollocks

Жыл бұрын

I think you could substitute "recognises" for "assumes" and be more correct.

@user-kc4lt2eg6u

Жыл бұрын

Lex underestimates how stupid most people are

@hannes8978

Жыл бұрын

And sam is right lol

@engineersalltheway

Жыл бұрын

That resonates for sure.

Kanye may not be a genius but Sam Harris is just supporting Kanye's attitude toward Jews by his idea of shutting everyone he wants based on their thoughts

@olgil

Жыл бұрын

Pretty weird that you're in favour of platforming someone who wants to go on a full on antisemitic tirade with 0% chance of listening to any other argument. It's weird how many people don't understand what Sam is saying here.

@leex648

Жыл бұрын

​@@olgil Mybe they do understand, but just don't agree

@francosfarms1573

Жыл бұрын

So we should allow about Isis to come and spread their hate to on Podcasts without saying anything or trying to shut them down. It’s such a ridiculous notion that we should allow anyone to say anything without speaking up against it.

@olgil

Жыл бұрын

@@leex648 It's fine to healthily disagree, which is what we just watched Sam and Lex do. People in the comments are acting like Sam has lost his mind as well as all credibility by saying that it was a bad idea to offer a mentally ill bigot a platform while he's pretty clearly having a manic episode. If you can't see where Sam is coming from and acknowledge that it's a valid point then you're probably too much of a fan of Lex to listen to an alternative viewpoint.

@leex648

Жыл бұрын

@@olgil Both Sam and You think that your opinions are worth more than they actually are.

I agree with Sam and I don’t like freak shows. There was no reasons to explore those topics with Kanye and probably there was no reason for the interview in the first place

Love over debate. Lex is so needed right now!

What does it mean when Sam says I’m Jewish but I’m not religious? So are all people the religion they were born into even though they don’t practice ? Is a Christian who is not religious born that way?

@pjmmccann

Жыл бұрын

You're not a Christian by birth... your parents etc, etc may be christians, but it's not the sort of familial inheritance that the Jewish faith decrees as determining whether you’re a Jew or not. (There's also the possibility of conversion, of course...)

@gvlacic21

Жыл бұрын

This is the ethno religious problem of judaism. It is both a religion and a race. Unlike any other. It's interesting and tough to untangle. In Sam's case he would like to be non religious because he's too smart for that of course, but also be a victim of Kanye's anti semitism because of his mother's side (Jewish by "race" rather than religious practice) Kind of a heads I win tails you lose trick he pulls.

@user-gw1dr7rt9b

Жыл бұрын

​@@gvlacic21 Exactly! Typical snowflake.

@goncalodias6402

Жыл бұрын

Jews dont preach judaism to other peoples, so they really are an ethnicity. You can convert and become jewish, but ethnically your not semitic

@daniellosantucci5863

Жыл бұрын

@@pjmmccann Exactly my point, My grandparents are Italian my parents born in South America I speak Spanish I’m listed as Hispanic but am I still Italian,,,,,I call BS on this, Im American, with Caucasian/Italian “Heritage” who makes decent pasta speaks Spanish still due to the overwhelming population of Spanish speakers in this country of which without I would have never kept “Practicing” (Key Word). Judaism is a religious doctrine, you either are or you are NOT following the way. Sam Harris and all others not devout have a Mental Illness obviously confused about what it means to BE something.