Sam Altman: OpenAI, GPT-5, Sora, Board Saga, Elon Musk, Ilya, Power & AGI | Lex Fridman Podcast
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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
1:05 - OpenAI board saga
18:31 - Ilya Sutskever
24:40 - Elon Musk lawsuit
34:32 - Sora
44:23 - GPT-4
55:32 - Memory & privacy
1:02:36 - Q*
1:06:12 - GPT-5
1:09:27 - $7 trillion of compute
1:17:35 - Google and Gemini
1:28:40 - Leap to GPT-5
1:32:24 - AGI
1:50:57 - Aliens
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Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. Transcript: lexfridman.com/sam-altman-2-transcript 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - Cloaked: cloaked.com/lex and use code LexPod to get 25% off - Shopify: shopify.com/lex to get $1 per month trial - BetterHelp: betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off - ExpressVPN: expressvpn.com/lexpod to get 3 months free 1:05 - OpenAI board saga 18:31 - Ilya Sutskever 24:40 - Elon Musk lawsuit 34:32 - Sora 44:23 - GPT-4 55:32 - Memory & privacy 1:02:36 - Q* 1:06:12 - GPT-5 1:09:27 - $7 trillion of compute 1:17:35 - Google and Gemini 1:28:40 - Leap to GPT-5 1:32:24 - AGI 1:50:57 - Aliens
@TheImprovNinjas
Ай бұрын
💗
@ItchyTrigahFingah
Ай бұрын
The fact that these two still think consciousness isn’t something unique to life is laughable! You will never build general intelligence! You don’t even know what consciousness is!
@ItchyTrigahFingah
Ай бұрын
The fact that these two still think consciousness isn’t something unique to life is laughable! You will never build general intelligence! You don’t even know what consciousness is!
@xzanman
Ай бұрын
You forgot to timestamp the 132 ADs.
@francescoambrosino1841
Ай бұрын
Do you think that in 2035 with the advent of AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) and ASI (Super Artificial Intelligence) they will introduce universal basic income!? a subsidy!? there will be free will!? an era of abundance will begin!? the intellectual and motor capabilities of robots have already surpassed the average human and before 2035 there is talk of them surpassing those of any human and then again those of any human combined! regarding both body and mind! answer me please...
I think I speak for everybody when I say, get Nvidia's CEO Jensen Huang on the podcast!
@silotx
Ай бұрын
The leatherman.
@26101976bdm
Ай бұрын
Hyperbole overload.
@cbuchner1
Ай бұрын
But I am afraid he might not talk a lot besides marketing material.
@BarneyGumbl3
Ай бұрын
@@cbuchner1Lex asks very thoughtful and specific questions though, I have faith that Lex would be able to get a genuine conversation out of him
@edum.6353
Ай бұрын
Nvidia is literally powering chatgpt
“Take me through the OpenAI board saga”. My boy Lex got straight to the point XD
@mattmyers2624
Ай бұрын
Let's take everything with a grain of salt until this goes through the court and all records are public. "Regurgitate me the propaganda narrative you came up with to save face while employees rallied behind you so they could get more than a $2 billion payout from a not-for-profit [and let's avoid speaking of your sister's many years of allegations of you sexually assaulting her for years as a child - where you seem desperate to attempt to maintain the head position of an organization that can AI generate realistic CSAM]."
@hansadler6716
Ай бұрын
Too bad Sam's reply was a whole lot of nothing.
@zaphir127
Ай бұрын
"Tell me how Blackrock totally didn't install stooges on your board of executives in order to secure powerful AI for their sentient killbots that will eventually come for us all"
@danielblank6717
Ай бұрын
And he said nothing.
@theguyonyoutube4826
Ай бұрын
@mattmyers2624 for someone saying to wait and see you've sure seemed to have made up your mind
I never thought I would say this but Lex looks more alive than his guest.
@kaynewest6167
Ай бұрын
Lex asks straight forward questions off a paper and gets zero answers, His podcast is taking about 3% of daily energy to maintain
Feels like he’s portraying a humble, sensitive persona when he may actually be an egomaniac with unbelievable power at his disposal. Didn’t learn much from this interview, but still engaging and important stuff watching Altman’s communication strategies.
@mcbrite
Ай бұрын
Yes! All I took from the entire board saga in the end: I was hopeful/positive for OpenAI before, now I'm scared and get a nefarious vibe I really don't like...
@brandoneickert
Ай бұрын
I very much agree. It seems like the main things we can learn from a podcast like this is how someone wants to be portrayed
@danielr9112
Ай бұрын
Exactly what I felt, you got it to the point
@Matt-es1wn
Ай бұрын
Don't tear something down just because you don't understand it. Do you actually understand why he makes you uncomfortable?
@RoxanneAlexisHenry
Ай бұрын
I think we may have to admit that we all learn far more from uncomfortable uncertainties than the pleasant echo chambers we understandably tend to like. Not to be unkind or to root for drama but I'm certainly curious about the giant reaction this guy's uneasiness generated.... Might be something worth taking a look at there... Examination of all parties (we viewers/commenters included) illuminates a lot about psychology and sociology. 😅
It’s nice to include robots like Sam Altman in the conversation
@geoms6263
Ай бұрын
what about cyborgs like Zuckerberg?
@IemonandIime
Ай бұрын
This is just two AIs conversing with each other
@MelfiortheOne
Ай бұрын
@@geoms6263did you mean reptiloid?
@Maya-Blix
Ай бұрын
He really does sound like a robot, doesn’t he?! 😂😂
@unkind6070
Ай бұрын
I don't know what are you talking about i see two robots 👍🏻
Would be great to see an up and coming interview with Ilya
@apache937
Ай бұрын
what did he see?
@CYI3ERPUNK
Ай бұрын
would be great to see proof that Ilya is still alive at all
@astronut2925
Ай бұрын
Week later of the ouster, Altman came out and Sutskever went in the humiliation cave.
@Morskoy915
Ай бұрын
With a tour over the nuclear facility
@000Gua000
Ай бұрын
@@Morskoy915 That "doesn't exist".
I love Lex poked from every angle trying to get Sam to talk about about the openAI drama, and all responded with deplomatic answers or redirections. But then he asked how Sam felt, his personal feeling through this whole drama, finally it cracked.
@kaynewest6167
Ай бұрын
Poked every angle ? He plays both sides while always choosing power over his feelings . Lex doesn’t have his own thoughts and sam isn’t here to play friends anymore
@Amivit
Ай бұрын
What timestamp?
Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Jensen Huang and Bill Gates in one room with Lex hosting the discussion in a round table discussion would be insane and totally relevant. This would be the ultimate podcast.
@doublevision5465
17 күн бұрын
I would not want to watch that on a full stomach nor an empty one for that matter. It would make my guts churn.
@chirayudesai793
15 күн бұрын
@@doublevision5465don’t be so dramatic💀
@ditonarendro2019
13 күн бұрын
+Elon Musk :)
@empty_neural_network.
4 күн бұрын
Add Ilya Sutskever and some engineers, I wanna watch the brain behind all this technology taking shit. Not just business head motherfuckers, LOL.
@empty_neural_network.
4 күн бұрын
Add Ilya Sutskever and some engineers, I wanna watch the brain behind all this technology talking sh*t. Not just business head m0th3fuc*3rs, LOL.
Lex is the only channel I check the length of the video thinking: "only" 2 hours? ❤
@etomichelverny
Ай бұрын
My Overoverovergod
@Rareme530
Ай бұрын
Try Dwarakesh too. Dude does a lot of research
@erics7004
Ай бұрын
Sammy has no time to waste.
@IFYOUWANTITGOGETIT
Ай бұрын
1 hour at 2x speed 😉
@Gaius_Julius_Caesar_Augustus
Ай бұрын
Yeah nice seeing two Jewish robot talking
Don't know why but I get a bad vibe from this guy
@JD-jl4yy
Ай бұрын
He's the very definition of machiavellian, so yeah...
@Yourmission9
Ай бұрын
They’re all sociopathic narcissists in tech. Here’s to hoping it’s not “good game Earth we had some fun huh?” with regards to the advancements of AGI and more butterflies and rainbows 🤷♂️
@moneycrab
Ай бұрын
Me too
@ycdwtv7017
Ай бұрын
He was fired from YC because of his evil and self centric character. There was also an attempt to fire him from openAI due to his reckless behaviour. He is a dangerous man
@dscuffman7679
Ай бұрын
You're probably a reddit loser who doesn't know anything about AI. You probably hate Elon too.
My AI Agent. So his endgame becomes clear. I understand social phobias and fear of deep connection but he just revealed that he wants or is motivated by wanting a personal AI agent that will know literally everything about him and accept and help him - a feeling he wants from people in his life but has not had. This is a frightening motive for creating a “system” that could hold so much harm to human society and life. I didn’t expect to be so alarmed when starting this podcast. Lex has been amazing in this interview.
Thank you for this interview 🫶🏻
In the clip (57 Min) he totally avoided the question of tranparency and data privacy of user and started talking about his firing and tried to appeal emotionally. This guy is shrewd. how long is AWM19V opened to us?
@WALLACE9009
Ай бұрын
What??
@goodgoyim9459
Ай бұрын
They are both jewish. They see themselves as of a higher caste with in-built nepotism of extreme proportions.
@throughtheendlessinertia1915
Ай бұрын
Bot
@FayazKadir
Ай бұрын
They are both Zionists. What did you expect from them?
@xtr.7662
Ай бұрын
Because it doesnt matter everything you use collects your info
Lex asked all the right questions, but I remember nothing from Altman's answers after the interview completes.
@GizzyDillespee
Ай бұрын
He clearly said we have great people working on it, and there's a big group of very smart AI researchers, and I'm actually very happy that we're doing that, because we need to think more about these things, and we don't want to overestimate the risks, and moving towards the future, we still have much more to take care of.
@user-nb8ud9nu3j
Ай бұрын
You, my boy, have a long way to go if you think those were all the right questions
@John-wf5if
Ай бұрын
All part of the plan
@thefamousdjx
Ай бұрын
Sam isnt really that deep, he just happens to lead a top AI company. Discussions about other civilizations and simulations are always interesting but he was just dead quiet there. Elon and Andrej really answered those questions quite well with deep thought
@lubricustheslippery5028
Ай бұрын
It felt a lot that he can't say to much or don't want. Both about technical stuff and the drama. More about the vision of the future may have been easier to talk about.
Thank you Lex. For these long discords to be able to hear and SEE someone's intent
This IS AGI answering the questions.
@lethargic_cow
Ай бұрын
Exactly
This guy gives “The character who is on everyone’s good side, but actually turns out to be the villain” vibes
@arttusiukonen9790
Ай бұрын
I swear. Watch him closely he feels very emotionally dead and machivellian at the same time.
@BarneyGumbl3
Ай бұрын
Dude has a prepper bunker full of guns and years worth of food, tells you all you need to know about how he sees the future playing out
@o-henry
Ай бұрын
Dead-on. Him talking about how "painful" the board situation was for 20 min was hilarious. "But there was a lot of love too" It's like those amateurish horror stories on reddit about Skinwalkers imitating humans.
@TrappedinaBrain
Ай бұрын
Kinda like book littlefinger
@vinyltherapy9410
Ай бұрын
facts
Two hours of information withholding.
@nyahhbinghi
Ай бұрын
yes
@Prometheus70747
Ай бұрын
Yeah at the moment all he's talking about is the company dynamics. It's quite boring.
@yagoa
Ай бұрын
oh the irony
@chinmarin380
Ай бұрын
Maybe because Lex spent the first 20 minutes badgering him about the OpenAI drama like a tabloid journalist
@yagoa
Ай бұрын
he was soft-balling the whole time though...@@chinmarin380
Lex you have so transcended any interview of Altmann and any interview about AI. You patiently, empatheticly asked and then let him search internally for his answers, his thinking - good or bad. Thank you sir.
Nice to see so many great pocker players here who can read the people mind just by watching a video interviews with them. Seriously, you guys are so good at distinguishing people with good intentions from the opposite?
@szymczak34
Ай бұрын
Yes, thankfully people have this ability. It protects them from being taken in by charlatans like Trump and this guy.
This dude speaks like such a politician
@jochennel
Ай бұрын
talks 2 hours but only moves air and doesn't say anything - scary
@esyjournal
Ай бұрын
@@jochennel He actually said a lot , were you listening?
@esyjournal
Ай бұрын
People need to take their time and form their thoughts, he's not running a Burger joint
@Timbo360
Ай бұрын
@@esyjournalhe can say a lot, doesn’t mean it has substance. He said in a lot of words just in the beginning “AI/AGI is going to have a power struggle” without elaborating on it. Look more into Sam and the company lol.
@manwithnewname
Ай бұрын
@@Timbo360how would you like him to elaborate on that? There's not much more to say without a crystal ball
How can someone so smart teach us so little after a 2 hour interview
@pushkarbaral4064
Ай бұрын
By being very diplomatic and careful not to offend anyone.
@imaspacecreature
Ай бұрын
@@pushkarbaral4064You mean,* not to inform, I hope.
@pushkarbaral4064
Ай бұрын
yes @@imaspacecreature
@pushkarbaral4064
Ай бұрын
he was a pure soul when he started, and now the corporation has corrupted his soul, his mouth is tied. He spoke his heart , and served the world. Now he speaks his mind, and serves the devil. Probably oversimlifed and overstated. He is trying to save his soul. But the internal struggle is impossibly hard. @@imaspacecreature
@matejhladky4460
Ай бұрын
@@pushkarbaral4064So that's what the liberal mantra "right not to be offended" gets you. Everyone afraid to say anything about anything, so that fragile minds don't get upset.
1:03:13 - Qué es Q* y avances más graduales o abruptos, GPT-5. 1:28:38 - Mejoras de GPT-4 a GPT-5 0:44:23 - GPT-4 kind of sucks... 0:47:46 - ChatGPT como interfaz y momento clave. 1:00:30 - Pensar rápido, pensar lento.
@sapereaude155
Ай бұрын
Gracias Dot! Estuve en tu directo
@hypehuey6747
26 күн бұрын
merci
I like the choice of background, for a change of tone in this discussion. Was this at Sam's request?
are all Sam answers missing Lex questions point, or is it just me?
@ekothesilent9456
Ай бұрын
This dude sounds like an NPC
@ElektronicEscalation
Ай бұрын
Yes, he did it the last podcast as well! Typical CEO behavior but Sam Altman really does it a lotttt
@QuietEscapism
Ай бұрын
Sam gives me manipulative liar vibes
@vladimirleon2487
Ай бұрын
After scrolling through quite a few comments I finally found this thread. I'm surprised more people aren't pointing this out. Yes, Altman gives CEO answers, but also... He's learned a "love" vibe too well, and I feel like he's using manipulative tactics constantly on top of that. I don't quite trust him. There are a couple short moments that I think are real, but there are more moments where it's hard to tell if he's honest at all... Certainly he reframes each question slightly to avoid much true detail...
@tobyausneurobi
Ай бұрын
When he said "I love Ilya" you could just sense that deep down he probably feels the exact opposite about him. People like Sam Altman are really really dangerous.
1:09:22 “You're not the man you used to be, Sam." "Very different job now than what I used to have." I watched this part so many times and it still sends chills down my back. I listened to the 2 podcasts with Sam so many times and examined them in detail. In the first podcast, Sam's stance was "Look at the amount of pettiness among the "experts" when we started, now look where we are. We are going fast and going strong. Great accomplishments, huge milestones, bright future ahead." He was the guy defying all odds and proving everyone wrong by making something remarkable. The future was unknown, and in a dark cave, there was light. Now things have completely changed. By moving towards that light it becomes clear that AGI is not an IF but WHEN, and as things move forward at exponential speeds, we are racing toward that light we see, kicking and pulling on the people around us, and what's waiting for us at the destination? Would we run off a cliff without being able to stop? The level of certainty in his face and voice just 11 months ago that OpenAI would either make AGI or "not make AGI but still make humans super great", and the level of uncertainty we see today that "AGIs are coming any second and the world is not ready for it", is insane.
@Kobe29261
Ай бұрын
What was remarkable between then and now to me was his wisdom; his going on record to say essentially he'd at least hope to set aside his own need/desire for power in exchange for saftely. How fortuante for the world that someone like him is at the helm. I love Elon but its rather obvious that we cannot trust him with irreversible power buttons.
@notokek
Ай бұрын
Thank you for pointing out the timestamp I rewatched it several times. Got chills as well Really make you think how much one can be changed by many. It'll be an interesting movie to watch in 10 years
@VejmR
Ай бұрын
I don't understand, so you mean he became less certain about AGI?
@brandedsniper49
Ай бұрын
@@VejmR I take it to mean more certain it's on the horizon, less certain the uses will be worth the risk. I suspect Sam has a much better understanding of how even people he would have innately trusted can be swayed by the stress of power. That doesn't extrapolate optimistically to the development or potential uses of a tool as powerful as AGI.
@xingzhexin8843
Ай бұрын
@@VejmR To put it simply, he has become certain that AGI will be here, most likely very soon, and now the work has changed from "Can we maybe create AGI?" to "What do we do with AGI to not ruin the world." It's the same with nukes. "How do we build a nuke?" is a scientific problem. He was Oppenheimer. After nukes were made it becomes a political game: "How do we leverage our nukes to gain advantage in world politics?" His identity is shifting or has already shifted from being a research scientist to a politician. That's my understanding of this line he said. Edit: I can't spell. Removed an extra "s".
Seems Sam is very protected now after the power struggle. A bit of mental hardening after the ousting. I think he is thoughtful, smart and empathetic but easily hurt. Lex is great on the questions! glad to listen to this conversation with an important figure in the early days of this disruptive technology.
When AGI can propose novel experiments and dream up interpretations from results will be amazing
Never thought Sora would create a Lex's Podcast
@frankc.astle214
Ай бұрын
we are so close to this being a reality…
@vaibhavsati538
Ай бұрын
@@frankc.astle214we're fked
@etomichelverny
Ай бұрын
My Overoverovergod
@fiftyseventh
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@SvaSattva
Ай бұрын
I got exactly the same feeling, Lex's hand gestures, video quality. Perhaps perhaps not lol
Everytime I watch Altman I trust him less and less
@keenynthewise
Ай бұрын
it’s funny because every new interview he has gotten more powerful, either he is becoming more and more smug or more and more corrupted by such power.
@chronicles8324
Ай бұрын
pointless interview and you can tell Lex knows it with his sarcastic jokes late on. Altman answers in CEO form. There was some better responses late on but the first hour of the interview was just a waste of time.
@user-nb8ud9nu3j
Ай бұрын
I hope he won't see your comment, cuz that would just be devastating for him
@Koryogden
Ай бұрын
Everytime I read a comment like this, I think most people are shitty
Thank you very much for a good interview.
Lex has gotten more assertive and I'm all here for it. Especially because he's well-informed so it's not just like typical media grandstanding.
@LucidiaRising
Ай бұрын
He wasn't very assertive with Netanyahu - I feel like his credibility in my eyes definitely took a hit with that choice of interview, he could have really asked some big questions but dropped the ball completely
@MR-oy5yt
Ай бұрын
What do you mean more assertive. The first question about the board drama gets completely dodged and Lex just rolls with it :/
@joelee4495
Ай бұрын
Lex the robot's A I. Is learning to be more assertive. Soon he will go full Terminator.
@LucidiaRising
Ай бұрын
Of course, giving a platform to a man committing genocide was hardly the best idea to begin with lol
@ModerateObserver
Ай бұрын
True, except for his interactions with Elon Musk, where he turns into an excited puppy 😆
I'm effectively getting real altruistic Sam Bankman-Fried vibes off this guy.
@sierrabianca
Ай бұрын
@TheThriftShopSampler The chances altruism plays any role in what he does is essentially nil.
@tristinyaeger9222
Ай бұрын
If I'm recalling correctly Sam is or was part of the real altruist movement
@aplfisher
Ай бұрын
100%
@TahoeRealm
Ай бұрын
@@tristinyaeger9222 that's what you do when you want to hide in plain sight
@cosalidra759
Ай бұрын
We need Elon, Ilya, Max Tegmark and Sam in one room. Lex as moderator..Please.
If we are in a simulation. Sam has been clearly programmed to be a big part of this. That aside consciousness and the ability to learn and grow is a beautiful thing. Thank you creator.
Enjoyable. Fermi Paradox always generates a lot of debate - I wish they'd gone deeper. German still capitalizes nouns.
@Calbac-Senbreak
Ай бұрын
There isn't really too much to discuss instead of people being delusional. There are many aliens species, and they ARE spread out the universe (not 100% sure about our galaxy), we just happen to: 1- not know about their communication with our leaders; 2- didn't happen to be close enough to one of them
The amount of vocal fry is truly Elizabeth Holmes level.
@hyennussquatch4597
Ай бұрын
what is a vocal fry? i know only about french fry..
@nyahhbinghi
Ай бұрын
@@hyennussquatch4597 youtube it, bro
@GizzyDillespee
Ай бұрын
@@hyennussquatch4597It's a meme that associates vocal raspiness with insincerity
@Disastrous_Macaron
Ай бұрын
Kim Kardashian 😂
@cparksaffluent
Ай бұрын
Yes. Really annoying lol
any chance you will get Ilya again? if possible would be great to hear both sides of the saga
@nonotreallythx
Ай бұрын
While I'd love to hear from him, you generally have to hear one side of the saga before you can hear both sides. And so far, we've heard no sides, just some emotional responses to it.
@citizenblue
Ай бұрын
I think Ilya is hanging out somewhere with Kate Middleton
@neociber24
Ай бұрын
We need to start searching on nuclear facilities
@executivelifehacks6747
Ай бұрын
I find Ilya to be the most interesting and informative AI persona, definitely want to see more of him.
@steviemac1737
Ай бұрын
Tbh I don't want to hear the saga from Ilya, I want to hear his insights and wisdom on AI.
Thank you, Lex, for these interviews.
@galivnik6491
Ай бұрын
No question about sexual abuse of Annie Altman, ofcourse. What a cool guy this Sam Altman.
Sam Altman would make a great politician! He talks a lot without actually saying anything.
@blaaaaaaaaahify
Ай бұрын
as he should. a lot to learn for future business owners that want to succeed.
@kaynewest6167
Ай бұрын
Sam is under a microscope by world leaders . would you be screaming your blueprints or having friendly conversations with interviewers ?
In the clip (57 Min) he totally avoided the question of tranparency and data privacy of user and started talking about his firing and tried to appeal emotionally. This guy is shrewd.
@galaxybrainkid1222
Ай бұрын
I noted that he didn't answer the question of what ACTUALLY happened at OpenAI. Still don't know why they fired him, only how hurt he was by it
@xxxneoxxx
Ай бұрын
Yeah I found "User choice" to be very broad.
@aprilloft
Ай бұрын
This was a huge red flag to me. Not only was it an issue I wanted to hear discussed (its huge in the public space right now) but the way he shifted the attention to his personal pain? It was the exact wrong moment to invite empathy. Nope! Sorry Sam burn out isn’t a get out of jail free answer to ethical concerns.
@bookofbrah
Ай бұрын
@@aprilloft100% spot on!
I took nothing away from this interview
@gunzor8717
Ай бұрын
Same. The only thing I took away from the Rogan one was that Rogan's algorithm is full of murder
@BarneyGumbl3
Ай бұрын
@@gunzor8717Rogans feed is your average edgy 14 year olds I bet, gore, war, fights, cop shootings, and animal attacks
@Alpha-Angel
Ай бұрын
Then it's not your place i guess
@Ravroid
Ай бұрын
it's okay you couldn't keep up, go watch some tik toks or something
@vaughnjosh87
Ай бұрын
Meh, it's KZread. You couldn't fit more attention whores in if you packed them sideways.
This was a very enjoyable interview. Thank you Sam, and Lex. I see a lot of people with fear in the comments, and I feel like they attribute that where it probably doesn't need to be.
they are mostly talking about nuclear fission (what we have today) and not fusion, correction for the subtitles! After mentioning fusion at 1:11:45
Lex is spicy in this interview! I love the new pressure he’s putting on Sam to answer his questions. Hoping to more of this in future episodes.
@tr0gd0sa
Ай бұрын
he's such an elon cuck and i'm a fan of Lex
@dusanbosnjakovic6588
Ай бұрын
He's not really challenging. He's joking. Wish it was a bit harder questions.
@SeCluDred
Ай бұрын
there was no pressure, cmon :D
@Tush1rG
Ай бұрын
Yes being elons side
@doyourownresearch7297
Ай бұрын
@@dusanbosnjakovic6588 what kind of hard questions?
The most interesting thing about this interview is how many people think it's a great interview.
@Cusey
Ай бұрын
that's every Lex podcast
@egor.okhterov
Ай бұрын
Not a lot
@allanshpeley4284
Ай бұрын
What problem did you have with the interview?
@koalalala3939
Ай бұрын
That's interesting. I have to think about that.
@galex2000
Ай бұрын
a lot - like… more than 3?
Love watching these while working on a fun project in the background.
@dspacey788
9 күн бұрын
Straight up
38:00 I love this part. The negotiation.
We need Elon, Lex, Sam and Zuckerberg in the same room next episode. we demand it
@JackJackson-NBN
Ай бұрын
😮
@6jot
Ай бұрын
@@SuperYogagirlElon is much cooler than all of them combined. You must be very woke to harbor such intense hatred towards him.
@dontwannabefound
Ай бұрын
Hahaha that would be so awesome omg
@a.v.5078
Ай бұрын
That will be an Alien slasher movie.
@vicc6790
Ай бұрын
@@SuperYogagirl not everyone has a weird hate boner for Elon like you, Elon would be my number 1 guest on that list of names. By far.
Sam: Our goal is not to have shock updates to the world. Lex: What is Qstar? Sam: We're not ready to talk about that...
I love Sam Altman even more after realizing that what im seeing is an extremely high level of perspective - which itself operates outside the Overton Thinking Window... Sam Altman is so smart that people grab pitchforks because they panic
I think this is one of the best podcast endings I have ever seen @lexfridman ! Super excited to hear about your journey to the amazon! and your trip figuratively and literally lol.
His voice is like an itch on my brain I can't scratch
@TheIronpusher
Ай бұрын
On the cusp of AGI, the doorsteps to absolute power stands Sa-ah-ah-am. Seriously though, we are really going to let this vocal fry communicating robot take over the world?
@ultrasound1459
Ай бұрын
@@TheIronpusher🤡
@darylallen2485
Ай бұрын
😂 Not sure if thats a compliment or insult🤣
@ragehealer834
Ай бұрын
@@darylallen2485what about that would be a compliment
@nn4151
Ай бұрын
It’s called vocal fry I think its common in San Francisco people
the vocal fry torments me
@ihbrzmkqushzavojtr72mw5pqf6
Ай бұрын
Aaaahhh I hate it so much😡
@hailandfire1822
Ай бұрын
Sexually tormenting?
@imtryingtodrawhere4280
Ай бұрын
It makes me feel claustrophobic 😭
@tripik426
Ай бұрын
The fact that this is the only thing you take away from this video speaks a lot of your intelligence
@cin8films
Ай бұрын
I can't handle it, it's too annoying!
id just like to say that both definitions of AGI by Sam are both implementations of the agi not the underlying code/software
Many thanks. Gracias por un programa y una entrevista de lujo
Lex first question "Take me through the OpenAI board saga". *Sam Altman* - I had the feels and stuff. Way to answer the question....
@BuildItFixItDIY
Ай бұрын
EXACTLY! He talks and talks but conveys nothing! = nefarious things happening.
@MrSeanman30
Ай бұрын
Sounds like Mark Zuckerberg when being asked questions from congress
@MR-oy5yt
Ай бұрын
Unfortunate Lex didn't double down on the question and just takes the evasive stuff and moves on
@matejhladky4460
Ай бұрын
@@MrSeanman30You mean like the question what data types they store? Or when if a guy walks across the room with an iPhone, does Google see that? Oh wait, that was Sundar. yeah, i'd be as confused as they were.
@indiablackwell
Ай бұрын
“For a second I felt like a human being, and I never want to feel that again”
Sam Altman gives me super villain vibes
@ShrimpyWilliams
Ай бұрын
Wait until you hear about the theory that he is actually trying to take over the world
@jovangaltic
Ай бұрын
Yeah, dude is creepy...
@paulm3969
Ай бұрын
I think it's just his generation. Uninspired, boring and just out there fulfilling the captain of industries dream. Automating economic output at all costs. Nothing really exciting or imaginative about it. Maybe the machine will produce something exciting... almost like a script being followed.
@HappyJoeShmoh
Ай бұрын
@@paulm3969 that’s a pretty profound take. Thank you.
@user-nb8ud9nu3j
Ай бұрын
That's just because he's so much smarter than you.
Fascinating. Lot of missed opportunities to hear answers to some important questions the host asked. I’m curious. Some deflections. Interesting clues. Thank you.
Evening lads, well, i've watched this twice now...with friends and family. Slightly concerned, as one should be, but this is indeed the world we live in. Thank you Lex for the platforme.🇫🇷🥂
If you listen closely at 1:11:56 when Sam finishes saying Nuclear Fusion, his robotic parts make a glitchy sound
@cschenonep
26 күн бұрын
🤣
@christinapapaioannou4357
3 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
Lovely to see Sam from ClosedAI
@scififan698
Ай бұрын
Interesting how he avoided the question about why Ilya thought he needed to go, isn't it?
1:11:54 one moment they're talking about nuclear fusion and then they're talking about nuclear fission but the subtitles keep on saying "fusion" on and on and on. You should be careful about this because maybe some non-english speakers might understand something else, or nothing at all. I'm not part of that bunch but I do tend to enable subtitles sometimes just for having a clearer understanding of some words I might not hear properly (for different reasons) and I happened to notice this. This is just an example, because I've noticed other mistakes like this throughout the whole video.
1:06:30 "what's the way we release this thing", makes me think he refers to making Sam give honest first hand answers. I adore the dynamic that's happening. It really is about getting Sam to open up. But of course, it's hard.
I had to check my phone every time Sam pauses thinking an Ad is popping up, but bro is actually thinking not to mess things up 😂
@BarneyGumbl3
Ай бұрын
Same my airpods have been playing up and turning off and I keep turning them off trying to turn them on
@Koryogden
Ай бұрын
Yeah, unfortunately he is anxious. And sadly, people are like suspicious because they can't comprehend human emotion
@lawrencemurphy127
Ай бұрын
THIS GUY IS A WEASAL.
@blaaaaaaaaahify
Ай бұрын
Well. He runs the hottest shiet in the tech industry. There's big money from big players involved.. i'd be veeeery careful too sitting at the top of a 100 billion $ company 😂. You too
@J35Y1
Ай бұрын
@blaaaaaaaaahify these randos cant understand, theyre just content consumers.
Lex is a force of nature. Not only does he get the most influential guests but it also seems like the guests seek him out and it is just as important for them to be on with Lex. Amazing journey, congratulations Lex, you are awesome!
@6Sparx9
Ай бұрын
Thanks, other O'Keefe.
@bbmatfreddy
Ай бұрын
Of course, after all Lex does not ask any difficult or important questions. The guests basically promote themselves, and I also feel Lex prepared very poorly for this interview. No in-detail questions, just layups and easy way outs...not a satisfying and value added experience. I learned nothing new that I did not already know.
@uSnatchios
Ай бұрын
The only weakness Lex has, I'd agree. His style is incredibly non-combative@@bbmatfreddy
@Astra2
Ай бұрын
@@bbmatfreddy He's not a reporter. His aim isn't to dig up dirt on his guest, it's to let them speak and give insights into their own knowledge/wisdom. If you think his questions were too surface level, then that's a valid argument.
@bbmatfreddy
Ай бұрын
@@Astra2 he takes on the function as investigative journalist. In that he does a pretty poor job. Not sure what else his purpose in such interview would be. Altman could as well have just used a Sora bot to ask easy questions that make him come out on top of everything. For example, why did Lex not press harder on the opensource issue. Letting Altman simply say "I don't even know what this lawsuit is about" is as disingenuous and dishonest as it gets. OpenAI not being open at all. Letting tons of outsiders contribute for free, for Elon to invest millions, and then shutting the whole thing down and distributing unheard sums to friends and family, aka employees. Really? Lex had nothing to ask about that? Or the issue of Sora being trained on unlicensed content. Whatever one's position on this may be, it's an important issue worth many upcoming lawsuits. I stand by my stance, one of Lex's worst conversations and interviews and a great chance wasted to get to the bottom of many very important topics.
1:33:50 Yes it did change the world. In the future, November 30, 2022, will be looked at as an inflection point. It is when there was a leveling of the world of intelligence. I was 67 and suddenly i can develop software applications, do PhD level research. Ask the deepest questions of my heart, and on and on. Sure it has many limitations but before I could even complain, new models with more capabilities were released every month. Just when i knew how to get a certain task accomplished without error (hallucinations), some newer plug in, the gpt comes along and that's no longer a problem. And just over a year later, we have text to video (Sora)! Absolutely spectacular growth and advancement. I've never been more excited to be alive. 🔥
@jesscmcmxc
Ай бұрын
thanks for sharing your perspective :) i'm disabled and feel the same way 🥰❤️🌈
Damn it! I thought this was an interview with The Disco Biscuits original drummer. Maybe get him on sometime Lex
Sam Altman -*TRUST ME BRO*
@Koryogden
Ай бұрын
Too bad you can't see the nuances
@1x93cm
Ай бұрын
@@KoryogdenToo bad you can't see the obvious.
"I personally hate lawsuits" what a great insight
@lukeskydropper
Ай бұрын
shill
@Fisj
Ай бұрын
ofc. They use all the data available on the internet that's not theirs. Stronger case to put forward on podcasts etc. that you don't like lawsuits.
@rasn
Ай бұрын
sam seems very untrusting of lex so far lol. (I'm only 30 mins in so hopefully changes)
@papaspooks8531
Ай бұрын
really wish there were more altman interviews elsewhere so i don't have to listen to lex
@rnambala
Ай бұрын
@@rasnwell given that Lex is Elon’s friend…that checks out with Sam being sued by Lex’s friend
The Q-star thing is really interesting here. The fact that OpenAI is so quiet about it says a lot about it as Lex pointed out, I think that Q-star is indeed a new form of fine-tuning of GPT whose performance is so astounding that even OpenAI can not explain.
I love all your content, especially what is focused on AI. I'd love to listen to you interview William Gibson to discuss how realistic the plot of his novel Neuromancer may seem now. Will AI constructs compete with each other?
I never thought I’d see Lex interview the founder of Skynet.
@mikaelbohman6694
Ай бұрын
Lex Luthor vs Miles Dyson
@user-mo2sg8mf5k
Ай бұрын
He isn’t the founder though. He was just a PR guy
@simple-Earthling
Ай бұрын
At least we got a good Lex interview before he handed the world unwittingly to the demon he has no idea exist ruling the world. Sad dystopia he is rushing us off to as Bill Gates 2.0, surprising Altman sees no issues with Bills insane control of humanity, down to owning patent rights for organic seeds.
@NathansHVAC
Ай бұрын
. Sam is lead developer and picked the team
@Zadrigo
Ай бұрын
He is Skynet's marketing guy, neither founder nor tech guy.
Extremely interesting. Thank you Lex
@luiseduardo7ho
Ай бұрын
Hola Marti 😅
@4l3dx
Ай бұрын
Is fascinating
@paulmichaelfreedman8334
Ай бұрын
@@numbercruncher6242 You mean, he says a lot, but tells nothing.
@yahanaashaqua
Ай бұрын
I clicked on this so fast I almost lost a finger 😂
@janos1945
Ай бұрын
y adiosss
'Hello' will always be my first word in a prompt.
@stevrgrs
Ай бұрын
Haha same here lol. I say “thank you “ too 😂
@slavinicus
Ай бұрын
@@stevrgrs exactly, if we don't teach AI good manners... SKYNET
@youtubeaccount1718
29 күн бұрын
@@stevrgrs y'all are weird ngl
@HakaiKaien
27 күн бұрын
Yeah, don't worry sweet talking AI. Worry about not saying anything to the politicians using AI to screw you. Just recently, EU created an AI law where it makes certain AI illegal to use by anyone but the government. So prepare for the social credit system.
Hello This is the key question that no one is asking St. Altman A few months ago you mentioned that you were present when something was discovered that pushed back the veil of ignorance. The question is: Was that discovery 'Sora'? If the answer is no, then the anticipation for what it might be is even greater.❤❤❤❤
Thanks for asking most of the questions we put to you on LinkedIn Lex. Amazing podcast 👏
@jonathangilliam875
Ай бұрын
Yes but Sam didnt answer to them. What a useless Interview.
Lex been having a good variety of interviews this year love it
@bookofbrah
Ай бұрын
Bro its crazy, so many good/interesting/extremely relevant guests! Just love his podcasts
Civilizations have certain milestones that change the direction of humanity, this is one of them. I have been in AI for 30+ years and this time the impact is real as can be seen by the number of people working on it and doing incredible things with it. This is just the start. You both are doing great in explaining it to the word.
Amazing episode and deep subjects as always, and what I liked the most is how Sam answered every question wisely and he's respecting every person talked about even what we can see them as his enemy now like Elon, but the truth is that 'enemy' is in business and not in the good of this world. love you guys and thank you Lex ❤ , you're creating history also (in our browsers lol jk haha)
The master of vocal-fry. Could be a cool drinking game: Everytime Sam pronounces a syllable WITHOUT vocal-fry, everybody has to drink a shot. :D
@chickenwingsarenumnum
Ай бұрын
I can’t unhear it now 😭
@dgodiex
Ай бұрын
fucking hell that fake voice. Unbearable.
@paulmichaelfreedman8334
Ай бұрын
I hate it.
@willwcbb
Ай бұрын
Please I'm so thirsty
@jessiecasson2643
Ай бұрын
Vocal fry is a tactic used to feign humility while screwing over the intended audience.
These recent episodes have been so great, I wasn't able keep up with the high amount of podcasts you released before. But the last couple of weeks I have been enjoying the heck out of every released podcast, thanks Lex for keeping to improve your process and make ever podcast better than the one before
For the second time I faced an idea that ChatGPT could be a reading partner. Lex mentioned this here: 53:03 The question is how does it work?
@dianeayinde264
11 күн бұрын
Tell it what you read and what you thought. Ask it what it thinks
I'm so glad that obviously trustworthy people like this guy are toying with the future of humanity. Isn't it great? ☀️
I’m so glad Lex brought up the “What did you see Ilya!?” meme 😂
@MacroAcc
Ай бұрын
can someone explain me this. for some reason i dont get it after seeing it a million times
@glenh1369
Ай бұрын
And the answer he got for it was verbal tossed salad.
@martink6254
Ай бұрын
I have bad vibes about Sam. Just very calculated about certain questions, I smell some dishonesty. Also seems he calls all the shots, is above the board and chairman.
@bright7522
Ай бұрын
@@MacroAcc the meme suggests Ilya saw AGI or something worrying and this caused him to vote to kick out Sam due to the gravity of what he saw
@RoganClipVaultYT
Ай бұрын
@@MacroAccwhen altman got kicked out by the board, ilya sutskever who was a founding member and is the one driving most of the technical aspects of openai voted to kick altman out. The reason for that is unknown, which is what caused the meme. No one knows what happened at openai and what caused them to kick altman out, hence “what did ilya see (to make him want to kick altman out)”
Hey Sora, create a video with Lex Fridman interviewing Sam Altman for about 2 hours talking about AI and the state of the technology in society.
@Neptunade
Ай бұрын
Yeah and then break in and post it from Lex' account to confuse everybody? Get real
@vladimirleon2487
Ай бұрын
Wow Sora's getting good, hey make sure the NPC says very little while speaking a lot.
@isaacsamuel6035
Ай бұрын
@@Neptunade someone can’t take a joke. Sheeesh
Thank you so much lex❤❤
It was good to hear Sam and the fact that they want to keep a free version of their product and the option to pay for advanced features it great. Lex consider bringing the NVIDIA CEO or a live interview with Snowden.
Lex is basically a really awesome prompt machine! Thanks for this interview.
This conversation, besides Sam’s comments on the board movements, largely mimic that which took place last year. I think these models have exceeded Sam’s technical depth. And I think the closed source, for profit business plan, Open AI has adapted to prevents lower level personnel from speaking to the challenges they are dealing with day to day, that the greater community might enjoy and derive real value from. This felt so high level that I could conceive it being synthetically generated.
@DeadRyGuy
Ай бұрын
Well said. A lot of comments noting they don't trust Sam/get bad "vibes" from him. Really all I'm picking up on are very calculated, non-inflammatory responses amounting to very little.
@emmersonzhaime1998
Ай бұрын
This is exactly how I felt. Initially I felt like Lex was trying to be more technical but the guy sounded like a software salesman who doesn’t want to get deeper. Had to google his background again cause I was very surprised
@usefulprogrammer9880
Ай бұрын
@@DeadRyGuy and to a certain extent you have to expect corporate speak from a guy in his position. Because the valuation correlates with his sentiments. But this product category is far more nuanced, if I was a shareholder I’d expect a lot more technical depth.
@usefulprogrammer9880
Ай бұрын
@@emmersonzhaime1998 Lex has interviewed Open AI’s real CTO Ilya Sutskever, albeit years ago, and years before they even had a product. I have no idea who this Mira Murati is claiming to be CTO but in interviews she’s somehow more inept than Sam. I believe she’s likely a token figurehead. The interview with Ilya was adequately technical, but he’s been radio silent since, almost as if he’s being intentionally silenced. I can’t make sense of much of this company, but as someone in the space, I am really curious to see how this plays out for them.
@ryzikx
Ай бұрын
@@usefulprogrammer9880ilya is definitely hostage in that nuclear bunker 😂😂
Hi there, would you (or do you plan to) interview Emad Mostaque (formerly) of Stability AI. I would just love you two exchange ideas and you to pick the brain of his.))) Thank you for your work, Lex! [deep bows]
Thank you Lex, that invite him I get many something from him and you that make question. PS. I never know that ... thinking about Capital words
He never failed to talk down about Elon whenever there's a chance
@4l3dx
Ай бұрын
Have you seen on Twitter how Elon attacks OpenAI every day?
@Mopoppy
Ай бұрын
@4l3dx have you seen how much money Elon funded in the early days?
@4l3dx
Ай бұрын
@@Mopoppy Oh, right, so they should just stay quiet and take the attacks 😌
@mohammadakhtar6941
Ай бұрын
Elon is annoying as hell and needs to be checked. People need to stop worshipping that guy just like they worshipped Jobs. He says the most idiotic things and treats his own workers like trash.
@gezld284
Ай бұрын
Elon must is a doosh! If you can’t see that you are blind.
"AI and surpise don't go well together." Good point made when talking about iterative releases.
@machinesandthings7121
Ай бұрын
And yet they are inexorably linked, and perhaps inevitable.
@Raulikien
Ай бұрын
*Proceeds to release ChatGPT in 2022* *Announces a state of the art video generation with SORA that blows the competition away* Yeah don't get me wrong, I think those are nice to raise awareness but they are not doing great in that department lol
@allanshpeley4284
Ай бұрын
@@RaulikienI have a feeling this is iterative release. I think they have far more than they're putting out there, probably so we can adjust.
Without any ill will, within all these noise and chaos, I wish him and everyone peace and peaceful life.
@olibrooke-bailey333
Ай бұрын
Your beautiful assertions are well respected however they exist outside of reality. This man cares nothing about you and the means that shall destroy your life as you know it are just an end to his desired outcomes. If your notion of well wishing provides you with comfort and wellbeing then by all means, do what you need to do. Reality begs to differ. Nerd assasins with anti human views, beliefs and deep seated personal interests now control the potential future of human existence. All the while sitting behind vast fortunes and a level of power that insulate them from the fallout of their desired outcomes. Outcomes that you and I will have no choice but to navigate blindly. There's no good intentions in this space. It's money, power and control. Sam Altman always attempts to obscure that fact in his disclosures. He is an anti-humanist. A human who hates himself so much that he believes computers should have ultimate control and if that results in the extinction of the human species? So be it. Wish him all the kindness in the world. Just know he looks at you with disdain and wouldn't bat an eyelid at you being programmed out of existence.
LF: But artists and creators are worried. SA: "Sure, artists were super worried when photography first came out. Then photography became a new art form and people made a lot of money." But currently, artists and photographers are losing money because of A.I. Sam brushed it off as if those of us who've spent a decade educating ourselves in this field and two decades practicing this art can do what? Simply retool? A brief exchange about a serious topic with hugely significant consequences.
1:06:12 gotta love Lex's casual delivery 🤣
Dude, Lex absolutely killed it on this interview! Mixing up funny and calming questions with the hard ones and memeing just the right ammount to make Sam feel better.
@kylekorona
Ай бұрын
Do you think they conjugate in vinery
@KevKlopper
Ай бұрын
He could have asked what the the new market structure post AI will look like when Altman hinted at it. Imagine brushing over that world shifting fact.
@luizdevil6855
Ай бұрын
@@KevKlopper its neofeudalism, isn't that obvious ? we're already seeing it since 2020
Lex is one of the kindest and most real people I have had the pleasure of listening to. Thank you, Lex.
Awesome interview.