Wow. Fantastic project! Congratulations!

You actually don't need to swing the sail around the front of the mast. Just lower the yard enough to swing it in front of the mast and push the mainsheet from one side of your thwart to the other. Saves a lot of motion and doable in higher winds.

No lee-board or rudder only using a paddle and a sail..... I AM SO THERE! I can't wait to see the video trying out your sailing rig. If it works well, I am going to "steal" your idea.

@UguysRnuts

3 жыл бұрын

You'll want a leeboard.

@deltafour1212

3 жыл бұрын

@@UguysRnuts Thanks.

I like this kind of sail boat.. fits my style . Sail and raw. Tnx for this video sir.

@thebigweg

3 жыл бұрын

You're most welcome!

A couple of corrections. Since posting this video I've discovered that this rig is actually a boomless "standing" lug sail, not a "dipping" lug sail, because the tack is secured near the mast. Also, I made a mistake with my terminology and anytime I use the word "clew," just replace it with "tack."

Thank you for sharing that nice ans easy explanation .

That is a nice simple rig for no leeboard and rudder. Proper sail area. The yard gives you some sail area and keeps the mast short for stowing away quick. If condition are there on class 1 river it is nice to relax down wind for a spell . although in some places some people will look at me funny.

Thank you for helping, I really appreciate it. I am in the process of making my own setup and can’t find anything on internet for canoe size proportions and percentages for the sail. I only found the square ft for what Canada recommends for a 16’ 6” boat.

@thebigweg

3 жыл бұрын

No problem, glad to help. Here are approximate sail dimensions: leech - 70", luff - 45", head - 47", foot - 53" Hope that helps you - good luck!

You should be able to dip the yard without that reaching way up (not a good move in a canoe) by simple pulling down on the luff. I built a sprit rig equivalent of what you have and am enjoying it quite a bit.

Very informative! How much sail area you think you can handle with this no leeboard method? I am considering putting a lateen sail or a settee sail on my 14 ft canoe as well.

Very helpfull

Parabéns pelo TRABALHO 👏👏🎉

@thebigweg

3 жыл бұрын

Obrigado amigo!

Smart & simple design like i prefer! Thanks for the very clear feature explanations . So Do u use a smaller cut sail for those 18+ knot days or can this sail be reefed or do you hike out? I notice your mast is placed almost dead Center (between fore and aft) is this because you use paddle to steer and aren’t using a leeboard + rudder? Other canoers place the mast more toward the bow. Are there plans anywhere for this design id like to try and make one thanks for sharing!

@thebigweg

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, I don't go out over about 18 knots. The mast placement is about perfect in the conditions I go out in. It gives a bit of weather-helm that is easily controlled with gentle to moderate paddling. I don't know of any plans for the design, sorry.

I have seen kits from UK manufactured by endless river but they don’t appeal to me. Have you ever tried setting a spinnaker with the main sail. I was thinking about making a small one to try it out. I think going downwind would be fun. An asymmetric spinnaker would be nice but that would require more rigging and put to much stress on the canoe, I think

@UguysRnuts

3 жыл бұрын

And on the skipper.

Interesting! Fun! ... I have a question: Would there be any advantage in running before the wind if you had a lug with two downhaul clues and two main sheets?

@thebigweg

6 ай бұрын

Sorry, I can't help you, that's way beyond my knowledge. The only sailing I've ever done is in these two canoes. Maybe someone who knows more than me will chime in.

@dianabenobo

6 ай бұрын

I guess it could be a tangle when you skip tipping the yard and tack by converting the outhaul of a sheet into a downhaul and turning the former downhaul into an sheet of an outhaul. But if you jibe ... it might be better to turn the downhaul of a clue into the outhaul of a sheet as you cross the wind with two sheets?

I love this concept here. I have an Endless River gaff rig set up for one of my canoes but I would like to set up my Northstar Phoenix in a similar fashion to the rig you are using. I recently acquired a commercial sewing machine and would like to make my own sail. Would you be averse to sharing the sail dimensions you are using on the Dandy?

@thebigweg

3 жыл бұрын

No problem, glad to help. Here are approximate sail dimensions: leech - 70", luff - 45", head - 47", foot - 53" Hope that helps you - good luck!

@fourweight

3 жыл бұрын

@@thebigweg Thank you! I wish I was more erudite with sailing terminology, but I guess that I will be getting more "edjumicated" as I dive deeper. Is there a specific "proper" point along the yard where it should be attached to the mast or is this something to experiment with? When I make the sail , do you think I should incorporate a vinyl window or do you think it unnecessary? I think that the Phoenix set up would be similar to the Dandy since it is a 14'6" solo boat which is 26" at the gunwale. I also have a Bell Morningstar which is 15'6" and 32" at the gunwale. I have used the sprit rig from Endless River on the Morningstar and it works well but the butt end of the sprit clobbers my wife in the head when I tack . Needless to say, she is not an enthusiastic passenger. Your rig may solve that problem. This may be a silly question, but how do I determine the angles for the shape of the sail when I lay out a pattern? Thanks again for your help! Chuck

@thebigweg

3 жыл бұрын

@@fourweight I think that may be more detail than I’m capable of answering. The sail rig itself was made by Lotus. It works great but I’m not up on sailing theory as far as WHY it works. Good luck to you!

Fit my style.thanks.Allah help you

Have you ever considered a taller mast (able to be folded in half and locked down or extended) and just rig up a jib/Genoa type sail out front?

@Okinanam69

Жыл бұрын

I think with a taller mast you might need a leeboard to balance.

Would you be able to give a few dimensions of the sail, mast and yard. Thank you

@thebigweg

3 жыл бұрын

The mast is 78" and the yard is 54". The sail will have to wait until I get it out for the season.

About a year late to this but do you have details plans/pictures of this mast and sail you made? I'm getting a canoe this month and I'm right on a lake so this would be perfect for what I want to do.

@thebigweg

2 жыл бұрын

The mast and sail came with the Dandy and were made my the maker of that boat. The dimensions are in my reply to a comment below. Good luck!

Great video. Thank you. How can I find a Dandy?

@thebigweg

3 жыл бұрын

Best bet would be to regularly check Craigslist and Facebook marketplace. But they don’t come up for sale very often. Good luck!

I have the Odyssey's predecessor, the Challenger 14' I never though about rigging it with a sail. How did you attach the step to the hull?

@thebigweg

3 жыл бұрын

I just used a two part epoxy. West System as I recall. It’s held well so far.

One last question.Where did you purchase your sails? Thank you

@thebigweg

3 жыл бұрын

They’re original to the Lotus Dandy canoe, circa early ‘80s. I’ve had to patch them some but amazingly they’re still hanging in there.

Sailing on grassy lawn.

How did you make the mast step? Like how did you fasten that block to the canoe floor.

@thebigweg

2 жыл бұрын

I used epoxy resin. It’s held well so far.

No, I want to see where I am going lol. Sail needs to be more forward and higher with an auto tacking rail. Thats just stupid and extra work.

Hello! How tall is the mast on the second kayak?

@thebigweg

Жыл бұрын

It's 6'4"

@MIXIX333v2

Жыл бұрын

@@thebigweg Thanks!