'Safety is relative': What CEO of missing Titanic submarine company told me during my trip
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Interview with David Pogue, CBS correspondent who rode on the submersible that takes passengers to the Titanic, which is now missing.
A Canadian military surveillance aircraft detected underwater noises as a massive operation searched early Wednesday in a remote part of the North Atlantic for a submersible that vanished while taking five people down to the wreck of the Titanic.
A statement from the U.S. Coast Guard did not elaborate on what rescuers believed the noises could be, though it offered a glimmer of hope for those lost aboard the Titan as estimates suggest as little as a day's worth of oxygen could be left if the vessel is still functioning.
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When you pay for the Titanic experience, and you get the Titanic experience.
@anaserrot6620
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂👏👏👏👏
@luciano2166
Жыл бұрын
Well said
@onestepbeyond7240
Жыл бұрын
Best comment 😆
@samparker9071
Жыл бұрын
Too soon? 😂
@Poppyseed0990
Жыл бұрын
Lol
A former executive was fired for reporting a security issue. The boss who fired him is on board and wanted to prove him wrong.
@olat1809
Жыл бұрын
And now he’s lost
@maxversteeg7309
Жыл бұрын
He went along for every ride, so thats not really true
@philfortner1805
Жыл бұрын
@@maxversteeg7309 wrong, multiple people pilot the sub. They rotated.
@philfortner1805
Жыл бұрын
Karma is a sea faring hag!!!
@jayesouthworth
Жыл бұрын
It wasn't a security issue, it was a safety issue that got the employee fired. CEOs don't like whistleblowers.
This is what happens when you go through life with survivorship bias. He never realized how lucky he was in his risk taking, just thought he was built different. He lacked humility and inadvertently reenacted the story of Icarus. I'm sure he didn't think it would happen to him, even if it could happen. A fatal lesson.
@SmartStart24
Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry for this man and the others on board the submersible but you are 100% on point. Rich people really do their children a disservice in that way. I hope they are found alive, but if they are no longer living may they rest in peace.
@chuckshartz2722
Жыл бұрын
This is what mass amounts of wealth evidently does to people. It’s just like those people who climb Mount Everest multiple times Everyone knows that a single trip costs around 125,000 and more. So it’s a rich people’s game. They climb their first time and truly believe they whooped it and go for additional climbs But you play with nature like that, eventually, she’s going to let you know just how insignificant you really are
@amischair1906
Жыл бұрын
Well said, spot on.
@beehappyalways
Жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@TheMahayanist
Жыл бұрын
They all had the same mental illness. Capitalism. Gets you every time. Owning property doesn't make you amazing, it makes you privileged to have what other people don't.
It's always the same, it takes a tragedy to happen before safety is taken seriously
@kristopherryanwatson
Жыл бұрын
yeah, like America in general.
@4eva123
Жыл бұрын
The irony of it being a trip to see the Titanic
@alonzokincaid1362
Жыл бұрын
@@4eva123their corpses will be down there FOREVER…
@alwaysyouramanda
Жыл бұрын
Humanity seems terrible at fire prevention.. we’ll keep 99% alcohol next to the stove and wait for the fire to maybe MAYBE grab an extinguisher.
@FireFire_HehHeh
Жыл бұрын
@@4eva123 And to name the damn sub Titan. Couldn't make this up. I'm buying a plane, gonna name it Bermuda Triangle, and I'm going to explore the Bermuda Triangle.
I don't understand why someone would allow themselves to be bolted inside a confined space with no way to exit on their own. This is crazy!
@ArnoldJudasRimmer..
Жыл бұрын
For a billionaire to wow his guests at his private island in the Virgin Islands...
@newmanboomin5291
Жыл бұрын
They didn't learn from the Apollo 1 accident in 1967, when 3 astronauts were killed inside their cabin. The ignition source of the fire was determined to be electrical, and the fire spread rapidly due to combustible materials and the high-pressure pure oxygen cabin atmosphere. The hatch proved impossible for the astronauts to open quickly.
@RacerX1971
Жыл бұрын
Arrogance and to show off to their Uber rich friends that they saw the Titanic..
@ArnoldJudasRimmer..
Жыл бұрын
Hamish Harding I have found out held the record in 2021 for deepest submersible dive ever to the bottom of the Mariana Trench. And also has been up to space on The New Shepard rocket in 2022. Push it to the limit?...
@hardikpandya7421
Жыл бұрын
@@ArnoldJudasRimmer..you push to such unnecessary limits when you have so much money in excess. Some get foolish with more money.
In my opinion, if you want to live on the edge, then you shouldn't expect other people to have to rescue you from that edge when things go horribly wrong.
@oscarlindvall1053
Жыл бұрын
I mean who said they did call for this attention?
@gregscrabshack2307
Жыл бұрын
@@oscarlindvall1053😂, im sure whoever was in the group called the coast guard. bill the families, its not the tax payers job ti save you when making awful decisions
The fact that the submersible can't be opened from the inside is, to me, incomprehensible. How can anyone get into such a vehicle and allow himself to be locked in with no chance of escape if necessary? Such a condition would be a deal-breaker for me. No way would I get into that vehicle.
@cavaleer
Жыл бұрын
According to this nimrod you're just not built like a "risktaker". ☠
@americarocks1776
Жыл бұрын
There's no reason for you to get out of the thing from the inside when you're in the ocean. What is opening it up going to do for you?
@volatilememory9338
Жыл бұрын
@@americarocks1776It's in the even that they are able to resurface, they can open the hatch to allow oxygen in while the support crew search for the vessel.
@josephnardone1250
Жыл бұрын
@@americarocks1776 Did it occur to you that the reason for emergency exit could be that the vehicle did surface in an emergency and immediately leaving was necessary? How about if the vehicle surfaced with a leak and it was necessary to abandon the vehicle and you can't because you can't get out and you sink and drown trapped in the vehicle or you're waiting for rescue and suffocate because a hatch can't be opened to admit air? Remember there was no back-up emergency rescue plan by the company which is why everybody died. That is what being able to escape from the inside could do for you.
@oscarlindvall1053
Жыл бұрын
@@llulaby8063 They would be dead regardless nothing to eat, no water etc. It's in the middle of the Atlantic they would probably get flooded and head back to the bottom in a couple of minutes. If anything having the hatched being openable is more risky, have you ever been on open water? Now the fact that they seem to have skimped when it comes to the construction itself is the real problem.
As a life-long sailor I find it stunning that there wasn't a simple Epirb on board that could be released to narrow the search zone. That is the most basic safety device found on any weekend charter boat. Accepting the risks but skipping the most basic rescue measure makes no sense - especially when wealthy tourists are paying $250,000 just to ogle at a wreck where 1,500 people died.
@zx3215
Жыл бұрын
Self-confidence of the designers of the submersible maybe?
@jsmcguireIII
Жыл бұрын
@@zx3215 No irony it was also hubris that sank the Titanic.
@Jim90117
Жыл бұрын
@@jsmcguireIII They hired noone who had actually been in dangerous situations underwater like ex submariners as consultants who (even the most lowly ranked submariner) could of listed a dozen hazards of this submersible design.
@amb3cog
Жыл бұрын
Just searching for this comment. I was born and raised on Aquidneck Island (Newport RI)👍👍. Lived here most of my 51 years. And have always been around the ocean. Back in the day we would use a CB type marine band radio, and once they were available. Everyone bought EPIRB's, and never go out without them. Sure we used to get drunk, and be stupid about many things. Been towed home many times too. But we always started the day sober with safety in mind. And were at least as prepared as we could be. And this is just within the Narragansett Bay. If we were to hit the open ocean, and say go to Block Island. We would go to more extreme measures, and prepare days ahead for the trip. The thought of doing something like this is simply unimaginable to me. From my own life experiences, and what my father taught me. There's no way I would have ever gotten near that thing. It doesn't take a genius to see what would happen in case of emergency. And the fact that they may have imploded on the bottom changes nothing. There is zero reason to not put safety at the top of the list. You only get one life. ✌️
@Yoctopory
Жыл бұрын
Maybe there was one on board. Wouldn't have changed anything.
It's over. 24 hours of oxygen remaining. No chance of planning and executing a rescue in time. This is already a recovery operation, they just won't admit until the 24 hours are up.
@clubfillerspinkknickers9791
Жыл бұрын
I live for this 🙌
@LiveByDesign
Жыл бұрын
To be honest it doesn’t seem anyone is too eager to be rescuing billionaires and I hope they take note of that
@blokin5039
Жыл бұрын
@Maal_wali_aunty_2 loser
@joanna0988
Жыл бұрын
The oxygen thing is not super accurate since it was never tested. They could have less or more. Someone could have died and then they'd have more.
@joe3009
Жыл бұрын
@joannasr9879 Imagine the stench for the ones that are alive.
You couldn’t pay me enough to get into that deathtrap.
@1977edd
Жыл бұрын
Who would pay you anyway to go near it.
@blokin5039
Жыл бұрын
5 bucks?
One thing for them to risk their own lives, but now they are putting the lives of others at risk who have to search and possibly recover the submersible. Praying for the teams who have to conduct this extensive and dangerous mission.
@BingoNamo-gb8pz
Жыл бұрын
That should be in the disclaimer/waivers. “No search & rescue team will be deployed on your behalf in the event of a failure.”
@fidelcatsro6948
Жыл бұрын
i imagine a dredging vessel with a boom and cable long enough to go 4km down the sea with a giant electromagnet at the hook to energize and stick the sub to its magnet and then pull it up all the way 🏗️
@dubstepforever99
Жыл бұрын
@@BingoNamo-gb8pz bro literally said anything on the submarine could fail, but the tube they in will keep them safe.. now they are probably dying a slow death at the bottom of the ocean.
@Charmander009
Жыл бұрын
The rescue teams are not risking their lives at all . Nobadys going down that deep
@Charmander009
Жыл бұрын
@TerryClothoh shut up , these people are heroes . Imagine the stories we would hear id they made it
100ish years ago, someone decided to build the Titanic using poor quality materials to save on costs, then equip it with less lifeboats because they looked "unsightly" on the deck. It's kind of scarey how similar the mentalities were of those people involved with both of these tragedies.
@dorathehoora4527
Жыл бұрын
This just shows the extent to which people are willing to go to satiate human vanity.
@Baneslayer
Жыл бұрын
Final resting place of the Titan(ic).
@jeannemarie3704
Жыл бұрын
And there 3:30 was a book called " The Wreck of the Titan" by Morgan Robertson.. about a huge vessel sinking.. it was written prior to Titanic actually sinking...eerie....
@djsteves554
Жыл бұрын
The Titanic was made with the best quality material available at that time.. not sure where you got that from
@user-mv9tt4st9k
Жыл бұрын
@@djsteves554 Thank you for pointing that out. Also, the Titanic was equipped with as many lifeboats as were required by the laws of the time.
Safety may be relative, but being dead remains stubbornly binary.
@JOlivier2011
Жыл бұрын
And that bit eventually flips for us all :')
@Cman57
Жыл бұрын
Death don't care about your mental illnesses. We are all either male or female in our autopsies.
@mattstevens4192
Жыл бұрын
Unless you are Schrodinger's Cat.
@tonyweaver2353
Жыл бұрын
Well they signed up for it. 5 times. Probably why rescue efforts are being so slow. The waiver further proves how they knew it was experimental and literally didn't care as long as they made money
@amyfox5191
Жыл бұрын
@erikwellerweller8623 “There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there's usually only one thing you can do.”
This company owes David lockridge an apology he warned people about this sub long ago. And the company dismissed him
I’m pretty sure the people inside the submersible are not thinking, “you know it sure would have been life changing if we had made it to the wreck site and gotten back to the surface alive. This was totally worth it.” People always assume bad things will not happen to them, and the rich disproportionately so.
@jeaniechampagne8831
Жыл бұрын
Denial of reality.
@johnvaughan1544
Жыл бұрын
The rich think nothing bad happens to them cos of their attitude, if it did, they expect us poor people on the bottom of their shoes, to help them out.
Feel sorry for the 19yr old young man who would have assumed he was surrounded by experts , but unfortunately he was not
@Baneslayer
Жыл бұрын
it's got to be absolutely crushing now knowing that everyone in his life broke his trust, and it cost him his life. Even the one he trusted the most.
@Lambert58-v9i
Жыл бұрын
Child abuse making his son go along on the journey.
Panic is your gut telling you something is not safe… people need to listen to that feeling.
@countryboi5828
Жыл бұрын
I disagree. Panic IS NOT 'your gut telling you something is not safe'. That is your INSTINCT (feeling). Panic is that gut-wrenching REACTION to a life- threatening situation.
@pandakicker1
Жыл бұрын
I do.
@Aribbonofsoundmen
Жыл бұрын
@@pandakicker1☕️
Basically what Ive learned with this ordeal is that rich people are soooo bored with their lives that they need to challenge death in order to feel something inside.
Finally someone telling it like it is.. these people made the choice to do this and this is the risk that comes with it. It’s a sad story but no one forced them on this submersible.. they paid $250,000.00 a ticket 🤷🏻♀️
@genez2157
Жыл бұрын
True but it sounds like they expected a better subversive then the one they got. Like he said the company didn't tell them everything about the subversive they would be inside of.
@tamuz9633
Жыл бұрын
They have learnt their lesson not to disrespect the dead! Dead people who die violently have their spirits going back where they died for many years and here comes a group of rich and arrogant people enjoying a trip where they died tragically. I think the dead spirits of the poor people on the Titanic were not very impressed and settle an old score.
@naminhabolsamala3062
Жыл бұрын
The KZread blogger pais $1.200.000 last years and documented everything the whole trip
@TwentytwentythreeThisyear
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Maybe instead of spending 250k on selfish endeavors that get you squashed like a Bug, Billionaires could pay their staff better and give back to the community in these times of mass austerity.
@jeaniechampagne8831
Жыл бұрын
Except maybe the boy. Thanks Dad.
I wish these news outlets would stop calling it a submarine when it is actually called a ‘submersible’. There is a huge difference and facts do matter.
@thirstaefortae5057
Жыл бұрын
Yes because in my mind I was imagining a proper submarine but in reality it’s this piddly little thing that’s controlled by a PlayStation controller! It’s shocking how it was allowed to make the journey at all
@SomeoneBeginingWithI
Жыл бұрын
They should explain the difference as well.
@trusound170
Жыл бұрын
You are right on that! It is in the submarine family but not actually a submarine. I guess they just stick to what terms they know and are comfortable with, and really have no idea that there is a difference.
@pandakicker1
Жыл бұрын
It is a simple linguistic mistake. You’d be surprised how many people say the simplest things wrong without meaning to. If they’re corrected enough, they may remember, though. 🤔
@ohara.
Жыл бұрын
whats the negative with them mistaking the two, seriously
the expense of trying to save these people is astronomical!! the safety of the hundreds of people trying to rescue them. i want them all safe!!
@scotia_man_steve7145
Жыл бұрын
I agree maybe maybe in the future when some fart sniffing billionaire tries a stunt like this, we should charge them an astronomically huge bill for rescuing them and putting peoples lives in danger! play stupid games, win stupid prizes
@fidelcatsro6948
Жыл бұрын
Im estimating at least 1 million dollars per day being spent if not more
@osiris3550
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, if that were one of us we’d be lucky if they sent a fishing boat with someone yelling “y’all out here” a couple times.
@mrbearbear83
Жыл бұрын
@fidelcatsro6948 hopefully the trapped people pay for it
@ArtyFactual_Intelligence
Жыл бұрын
Some people are actively concerned about the future life chances of a number of Disaster Tourists and yet don't give a damn about those stuck in dinghies on the open sea trying to flee natural disasters and war.
“Everything can go out but you’ll still be alive” what??? That’s solitary confinement 😭
The CEO owner had a sales pitch perfected. So glad he is on board! There is karma and justice in this world.
@ublade82
Жыл бұрын
The most dangerous thing is a man who believes his own lies
I will watch the Titanic sitting at the bottom of the ocean, from my living room on the big screen.
@1977edd
Жыл бұрын
No bother to you sir.Will you be sitting on your big chair too. You should go outside for a walk it's not bad.
They need to try pushing "up up down down left right left right" on the controller.
One of a kind. Last of its kind. Sad that so little forethought was put into overall safety
@jeaniechampagne8831
Жыл бұрын
And he thought he was so smart.
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING. THE OWNER KNEW THERE WAS PROBLEMS AND STILL LET FIVE PEOPLE GO TO THEIR DEATHS …. SUE THEM AND MAKE THEIR COMPANY GO BANKRUPT. THEY DO NOT DESERVE TO BE ABLE TO WORK AND PUT OTHER PEOPLE AT RISK AGAIN.
@jeaniechampagne8831
Жыл бұрын
That will happen and they will be heavily fined.
Does anyone else think these people are insane for even trying this?
I do admire the transparency of admitting so frankly ‘it’s not for you, it’s for the rich that like to take risk’
@neutrino78x
Жыл бұрын
poor people can do adventures too..... but it's definitely a true statement that this adventure was for people willing to take the risk. Still, any trained submariner such as myself can see all kinds of problems with the boat's design...he should have hired one of us.
@tamuz9633
Жыл бұрын
They have learnt their lesson not to disrespect the dead! Dead people who die violently often have their spirits going back where they died for many years. When a group of rich and arrogant people come where many poor people on the Titanic were locked downstairs and could not go up to the deck of the ship for safety, what do you think happened when they saw these rich and disrespectful people coming to look where they miserably died? Let's just say that the spirits of the dead were not very impressed and maybe they decided that it was time to settle an old score with the rich. Don't mess with the dead, people! Their spirits never die.
@_hypergamy7090
Жыл бұрын
@@neutrino78x you know, at $250,000 a person, he probably didnt want to waste the space with a professional.. and you’re right, ‘poor’ people like adventurers too, but our adventures are humble like camping or hiking.. not necessarily going down to titanic for a little visit
After following this story over the past couple of days, this was the best explanation I've heard.
@gatoslokosforever
Жыл бұрын
the silly reporter the guy says: "it's not for you, it's for rich people that like to live on risk".... paying 250,000 to have somebody else do everything for you is not being adventurous at all. in fact, they pay to "see the titanic wreckage" but the damn capsule won't let you see a thinig. it's all through 3d scans... who's to say they're not showing you any other scan from a previous day?
@savinabees9220
Жыл бұрын
agreed!
@BillyDaGoat1017
Жыл бұрын
He didn’t say anything any different from what was already said…
@fidelcatsro6948
Жыл бұрын
what can we infer from this: There are better ways of spending your hard earned 250,000 dollars
@cho7707
Жыл бұрын
Yea, he basically said that these people are stupid lol.
Getting on that mini sub is like parachuting with a damaged main chute and no back up...Insane.
There is a 19 year old on the sub. Not sure he knew his dad was signing him up for the risks that "come with the life of a risktaker."
I just now found out this was even a “service” being offered to people. Absolutely INSANE for them to do this in a submersible that’s not even connected by auxiliary life support to a surface ship, with NO WAY to internally open a hatch and get out. Just mind boggling levels of incompetency.
@lakoncers13
Жыл бұрын
Open the hatch 10,000 feet under the water?
@vesstig
Жыл бұрын
If you opened that hatch then everyone inside would immediately be killed by the sheer pressure being pushed upon them.
@pandakicker1
Жыл бұрын
The idiocy of the design is astronomical.
@pandakicker1
Жыл бұрын
@@vesstigYes, unless they’re bobbing at the surface which is apparently a possibility.
@fidelcatsro6948
Жыл бұрын
He should have at least installed rocket boosters under to climb back up in an emergency with an axe inside to break the thick glass as well once they reach the surface
If it were me, I'd rather the hull imploded causing instantaneous death, than be stuck in it for days on the bottom of the ocean slowly suffocating. Praying for the passengers and their families.
@metalmouse2953
Жыл бұрын
There's an even worse scenario...they're on the surface floating about somewhere but as they are bolted from the outside, can't get out and are running out of air.
@ThisHandleWasTheOnly1Available
Жыл бұрын
@@metalmouse2953 I don't believe that to be the case. With the assets they have, they would have found them by now.
@onestepbeyond7240
Жыл бұрын
Thrill seekers climbing Mt. Everest that don't make it are left there. In fact , their bodies serve as markers.
@gaving9463
Жыл бұрын
@@ThisHandleWasTheOnly1Available "Found by now" a little white capsule that could've traveled 1,000s of miles.... I dont know about that
@kendallevans4079
Жыл бұрын
With NO toilet.......EEWWWWW!
Having my son was life changing. I didn't need thy bottom of thy ocean for that
I thought there was an expert "guide" with them, but no! Its just a CEO. That's beyond insane
Fancy having a vessel that you cannot free yourself from in an emergency is absolutely ludicrous…
@gulfy09
Жыл бұрын
How smart
@JOlivier2011
Жыл бұрын
And paint it grey, blue and white, as a bonus challenge for search and rescue
@Damaxyz
Жыл бұрын
At that depth they may as well be in deep space. No living thing on Earth could push to open a door due to pressure, and that same pressure would instantly kill the people inside the vessel. TLDR; You *DO NOT* want to free yourself from this vessel, it has to be done at the surface by a crew.
@pR1mal.
Жыл бұрын
Ask the Apollo 1 astronauts how it worked out for them. RIP.
@LFG7
Жыл бұрын
@@Damaxyz not a single person has said a hatch would benefit the occupants whilst 14,000ft under
"They wouldn't do this if it were really dangerous". The word DEATH appears at least three times on the first page of the waiver the passengers were required to sign.
@donaldlyons17
Жыл бұрын
Yeah but I am sure other jobs have people sign saying they know the risk.
This guy is just as nuts as the people who went down in that "sub."
This guy has given the best context & understanding about this whole thing. Thank you sir.
The guy being interviewed lives in an absolute alternate reality from the rest of us.
@nelsonmuntz3194
Жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing
@pR1mal.
Жыл бұрын
Inside a money fort, isolated from daily reality.
@kjellvb1979
Жыл бұрын
Failing to recognize the cost to the tax payers for their risk taking debacles, not to mention the lives risked during search and recue.
What amazed me was on the last dive they found the Titanic's swim pool was still full of water.
@1977edd
Жыл бұрын
Well I hope so. Wasn't expecting it to be full of cats
@annalieff-saxby568
Жыл бұрын
Ho ho ho.
@timbreninger1795
Жыл бұрын
2023 and still hearing this joke
@larryrgies0811
Жыл бұрын
That’s funny as hell!
“every person who does get to see the titanic says it’s life changing, there’s a before and after” Literally just watched a bloke in an interview say it was nothing special 😂
His briefing story and description of that submarine makes me imagine how NASA scientists reassured the Apollo-11 astronauts.
One hopes they are all alive, but what a huge risk to take. The thought of being bolted in such a small capsule in the first place fills me with dread.
@jsnjcnt
Жыл бұрын
@@devilsdestiny2813yeah this is horrible. How are they using the restroom? It must smell horrible in there. Hope they make it through this disaster.
@joanna0988
Жыл бұрын
@@jsnjcntApparently there is no restroom just a fancy Ziploc bag 😩😩
@jsnjcnt
Жыл бұрын
@@joanna0988 that is horrible, I wonder if they even have any lighting now.
@adeho789
Жыл бұрын
Wish there was a way to open it from the inside as well -- in case they are trapped in it above water.
@jsnjcnt
Жыл бұрын
@@adeho789 yeah, that is a horrible design. They could have put the bolts on from the inside. A cordless impact wrench would take hatch off quick.
As an engineer I have some serious red flags about the construction of the vessel. Never mind the dodgy electronics, the hull itself is a big issue. The carbon weave machine looks like a scale up from the ones that make carbon fiber air tanks like SCBA tanks. The pressures are different. Also. The titanium ends are glued onto the carbon fiber tube. Materials expand and contract differently. Even a 2mm gap can compromise the bond on the end pieces. With having the tube carbon fiber and the end caps titanium (glued on) is a serious design flaw. My guess is that the sub came apart. There are several emergency locater beacons on the sub. Vlf and maybe it was using ultra low frequency travel hundreds of miles in the ocean. They wouldn’t have put all the communications on one circuit. And to have a total power loss could only mean one thing. Massive flooding.
@BingoNamo-gb8pz
Жыл бұрын
Isn’t that part of the “thrill”? Without any real danger an adrenaline junky would have no interest. And isn’t that who this was made for? So you can’t eliminate all risk or you eliminate all thrill. All risk associated with an event like this lies within the vessel itself being questionable. I think that’s why you are bolted in with no way of escaping from the inside. It adds to the risk/increases the thrill.
@pandakicker1
Жыл бұрын
@@BingoNamo-gb8pzNo no no. The vessel should have been designed better. There is no excuse for poor design. Even with state-of-the-art design, the nature of the voyage comes with an extreme risk of something going wrong regardless. It’s less likely to go wrong if it was designed properly, but there is still plenty of danger for adrenaline junkies. I know… I am one and would totally go down there with a properly designed vessel and I am not claustrophobic.
@pandakicker1
Жыл бұрын
@@BingoNamo-gb8pz I am someone who would be an experienced cave diver by now if I wasn’t stuck living in the middle of the desert in the middle of the NA continent. lol I am also someone who has considered working for oil companies working on their undersea rigs, a job so dangerous that it is one of the highest paying jobs around.
@fartexplosion4480
Жыл бұрын
If you want a thrill, save a few hundred thousand and go play chicken with traffic
@ravenharris1257
Жыл бұрын
@@fartexplosion4480 😂
Its unreal hearing all the red flags, "ran by a game controller, built with used tubing" I half expected him to say the infastructure was entirely paper-mache 😂
The company should pay all the costs of this rescue.
It’s not just risking your own life for a thrill. Hundreds of people’s lives are now at risk for the search and rescue operation. The selfishness of some people is irritating.
@Poppyseed0990
Жыл бұрын
Rich people for ya
@KiyokoSa
Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more
@axelband1770
Жыл бұрын
Their level of entitlement because they believe their money can buy anything, including life.
@hikerhobby1204
Жыл бұрын
@@Poppyseed0990Hum, all the shootings in the USA are not rich people.
@user-ke4kz3in9j
Жыл бұрын
You can apply that to any person who adventures anywhere. Kind of an asinine statement
The tourist submersible that went missing while exploring the Titanic wreck was previously the target of safety complaints from an employee of OceanGate, the parent company that owns the sub and runs tourist expeditions of the wreck. That employee complained specifically that the sub was not capable of descending to such extreme depths before he was fired. According to the court documents, in a 2018 case, OceanGate employee David Lochridge, a submersible pilot, voiced concerns about the safety of the sub. According to a press release, Lochridge was director of marine operations at the time, “responsible for the safety of all crew and clients.” The concerns Lochridge voiced came to light as part of a breach of contract case related to Lochridge refusing to greenlight manned tests of the early models of the submersible over safety concerns. Lochridge was fired, and then OceanGate sued him for disclosing confidential information about the Titan submersible. In response, Lochridge filed a compulsory counterclaim where he alleged wrongful termination over being a whistleblower about the quality and safety of the submersible. Lochridge, in his counterclaim, alleged that “rather than addressing Lochridge’s concerns, OceanGate instead summarily terminated Lochridge’s employment in efforts to silence Lochridge and to avoid addressing the safety and quality control issues.”
@pandakicker1
Жыл бұрын
Sounds to me like OceanGate is about to be stuck in an incredibly massive lawsuit whether they’re found alive or not over this. Oooooh boy…
@NEOREV_MUSIC
Жыл бұрын
@@pandakicker1 Yup. Full story is on The New Republic. KZread likes to block links.
@vincentsutter1071
Жыл бұрын
The CEO also appeared to refuse to hire 50 year old men with submarine experience since he wanted more excitement and diversity.... Who needs actual hands-on experience for a sub that descends 4000 m?
@CONNECTELECTRIC
Жыл бұрын
DEY TUUk IZ JERB!
@irieite9666
Жыл бұрын
"We spared no expense" - John Hammond
The thought of being trapped in there slowly running out of air is the stuff of pure nightmares. Who's bright idea was it to bolt everyone in from the outside without any way of getting out in an emergency?
@notmanynamesleft
Жыл бұрын
Don't forget sitting in your own pee and excrement! Imagine the smell in that coffin!
This company is over no matter if they coming back alive or not,still praying for a miracle 🙏
The reporter's instincts before he went to sleep that night were spot on.
@tbone1574
Жыл бұрын
Yep... Always listen to that little voice, it's usually right...
@TheFrenchPug
Жыл бұрын
@@tbone1574 He is feeling extremely lucky at this moment in time.
..there is a Big difference between a true Adventurer and a Thrill seeker
@Kot16169
Жыл бұрын
💯
I think ocean grave yards should be respected and there should be laws to protect them in place. It's not a Tourist Tour alot of people losted their lives to this accident and it should be treated with respect.
"Safety is relative"... Wrong, safety better be paramount, and that is non negotiable.
I completely understand people took the risk but the fact this company didn't have a plan in place for this sort of incident is just negligent
@Rowrin
Жыл бұрын
Another thing to note is that apparently communication failure was such a common occurrence on previous dives that when the crew above water lost communication with the submersible it wasn't a concern. Only 6 hours later when they missed their scheduled resurface window did they alert authorities.
@hen5555
Жыл бұрын
There is no plan when you're 2 miles down in the ocean, you take the risk at your pearl it's not a swimming pool there in ffs
@user-hf8nb9mb4e
Жыл бұрын
Freedom not without responsibility. Why taxpayers pay for their rescue?
@akilghosh
Жыл бұрын
@@user-hf8nb9mb4eI doubt you even pay taxes
@mason4966
Жыл бұрын
@@user-hf8nb9mb4eBecause what were you going to spend that money on? Onlyfans? Shut up.
Imagine the terror of being a tourist on a submersible knowing that you're stuck more than 2 miles under the ocean
@pedrobelo0454
Жыл бұрын
And they will suffer until the last minute not like they can kill themselves right way
@Cartman5101
Жыл бұрын
@@pedrobelo0454if they are still alive they probably decided who to kill first so they save oxygen and get a nice meal let alone the absolutely disgusting smell it has in there
@michelehon9193
Жыл бұрын
It is their choice!
@michelehon9193
Жыл бұрын
Sometimes men are so arrogant
@lukeforbes2008
Жыл бұрын
@@michelehon9193yeah but we all still feel bad right? Like it’s fun to live on the edge and it’s sucks when things go wrong. And it’s unfortunate that no one else will be able to experience something like thing for a long time.
Waivers or not OceanGate is toast. I have heard that one of the most plausible explanations is implosion due to catastrophic hull failure. Engineers think that the carbon fiber hull experienced micro fractures with each dive it made, until it made one dive too many.. We will never know. They will find nothing, and the sounds, that's them calling back from eternity.
He really said to all the pushback: “This isn’t for you. It’s for rich people”
@pR1mal.
Жыл бұрын
Send more down.
@JuricksEnterprise
Жыл бұрын
They why are WE paying for the 'rich people' to be rescued??? Let the families pay the bill!!!
@melinabrunel6931
Жыл бұрын
We are maybe common people for them but we are alive and breathing
@noam2315
Жыл бұрын
You peasants 😮
@neutrino78x
Жыл бұрын
@@JuricksEnterprise they may very well do that. They bill people who have to be rescued from national parks sometimes. But you still rescue them. They're still human beings.
"You will still be alive ..." guess he forgot to complete the sentence by mentioning till the oxygen runs out
The fact that you're bolted in from the outside is a huge safety issue.
NOTE TO SELF: Do not use dollar store equipment for 2.4 mile deep dives.
The Titanic needs to be declared off limits for this kind of BS. It's a mass grave, not a tourist spot, show some respect. Finding it was amazing and answered many questions. Just because you can , doesn't mean you should.
@jenniferhill9924
Жыл бұрын
Amen. The hubris of billionaires....
@davidrenton
Жыл бұрын
how would you enforce that, aside from being in international waters, you have the problem with flags of convenience (which submersible don't even have to have) ,, who would pay for enforcement
@legendarybloodviking1610
Жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you 💯
@ItsNeverTooHot4Leather
Жыл бұрын
Don't forget that this is a private operation, which should be PRIVATELY funding its own search/rescue operation. No reason why public taxpayer money should be spent trying to find and rescue risk-taking billionaires.
@coreyczech
Жыл бұрын
Ok captain Karen. Let's just ban everything that has no impact on your life at all whatsoever.
I was always taught safety is imperative, not relative. 😱
@Rosaedora
Жыл бұрын
yeah, he said that because he refused to do safety testing and said it was safer not to.
@MartinReiter143
Жыл бұрын
Safety is relative? So is risk. Death is not.
@volatilememory9338
Жыл бұрын
@@RosaedoraHis reason was that most failures are due to operator error and not mechanical failures. It's called survivor bias.
@jeaniechampagne8831
Жыл бұрын
I'm a preparer to a fault, about everything.
@vivida7160
Жыл бұрын
@@volatilememory9338Well, if he was in charge of the design and operation of the submersible, it is operator failure. He put the vessel into conditions it could not endure. The mechanics just did what it was supposed to do.
Safety is absolute... You play with fire, and you get burned.
There is risk in life but to not even have a location pinging device on the sub is just pure stupidity
It's just unreal how certain people you would expect to be reasonable could risk their lives getting into a miniature submersible "contraption" with no real safety measurements if something was to go wrong.
@colettemiller2677
Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly! Oh, what could go wrong? Seriously, these guys aren't the brightest.
@Kiggerknockertirechecker
Жыл бұрын
“No real safety measurements” is simply not true. There were safety precautions. As to why they failed as of right now we don’t know
@aboveitall9600
Жыл бұрын
It's actually designed to release the ballast after 24 hours. This is not the only safety measure but requires the sub to be from obstacles. If they are still alive, my guess is electrical issues and now they are stuck in or around the wreck / debris field.
@aragornii507
Жыл бұрын
@@user-ef2bx9fb4ywell you have to worry now because they are using public resources. Only way would be if they pay everything for themselves out of pocket
@trevorc8778
Жыл бұрын
Folks likely said the same thing when planes were first invented. There is no innovation without the lost of human life. Cars didn't always have seatbelts, it took the lost of human life to make them safer. This is the case with most innovation.
I really appreciate this journalist sharing his real-life experience (and fears) with the world.
@humayoonrashdi249
Жыл бұрын
You're such a Sweet guy
@RC-qf3mp
Жыл бұрын
This “journalist” basically gave this junk company free advertising on cbs Sunday morning show. He’s basically complicit in the deaths of any of these people who got on board in part because they trusted the advertising.
@kjb6637
Жыл бұрын
@@humayoonrashdi249that’s homo but how did this journalist afford a $250,000 seat?
@sirbasilflapjack671
Жыл бұрын
Sitting on your arse in a submersible is not an adventure. You're visiting a grave.
@chuckh4077
Жыл бұрын
I don't
I once took a submarine ride in Hawaii that went down 175ft, to go down 13000ft it has to be exponentially more robust like million times more…
Anybody who gets into this craft deserves a Darwin award.
The oxygen estimation of 90+ hours was exactly that, just an estimation of what the equipment is capable of but it was never actually tested, especially with 5 people so we are just assuming they still have oxygen
@nickyalousakis3851
Жыл бұрын
that's right it could be longer than that.
@shoopSAUCE
Жыл бұрын
@@nickyalousakis3851 It will be MUCH shorter than that taking into consideration the methane from the fecal matter/urine as well as if anyone had a cardiac arrest and perished due to the sheer mental breakdown they had. 90+ hours was if everyone was breathing calmly/sleeping. The convulsing and heavy breathing eats into that quickly alone.
@bartholomewlyons
Жыл бұрын
Yup, no proof there were 90 hours to start off with.
@JOlivier2011
Жыл бұрын
5 panicked people*
@adrianwright8685
Жыл бұрын
Don't be daft - it must be common knowledge how much Oxygen one human being uses on average per hour - multiply by 5 people and by 90 hours and that's how much they took. They might well of course use it a bit quicker in such a situation - I dare say it's also common knowledge as to how quickly a panicked person uses Oxygen!
I’m panicking in my house just hearing this.
@1977edd
Жыл бұрын
Why? Is your house at the bottom of the Atlantic. Close your windows.
@joe3009
Жыл бұрын
@@1977edd 🤣
For me, being bolted into a tiny capsule would be equivalent to someone putting nails into my coffin.
I can't think of a most horrible way of passing away than trapped inside a submarine. I truly hope that they find and rescue those people.
@Naguib55
Жыл бұрын
Really! Doesn't even make the list of the worst hundred ways to die.
@davidleegoth
Жыл бұрын
Eaten by sharks?
When you go to Walmart to buy a part for your little submarine to go 2 miles down to the ocean floor, *Here's Your Sign!*
"its not for you!" You're right! a carbon fibre cylinder with electronics from home depot that is now a tomb for 5 people on the bottom of the Atlantic really isn't for me. You on the other hand I hope can be first in line to test any more genius ideas like this
@LiveByDesign
Жыл бұрын
Ikr …I’m like thank goodness …meanwhile we’re out here breathing on dry land in the sun 😂
@drforjc
Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the X Box joystick controller!
@nickyalousakis3851
Жыл бұрын
the pressure vessel has carbon fibre, but it is also made of titanium. off the shelf propellers is not an issue. the computing power and software on the vessel is state of the art. the structure was designed with consultation with NASA and Boeing. the sub had done same depth tests in bahamas fifty times for testing and data submitted to govt. accidents will happen. flying by airplane to a nice sunny destination - could be your last.
@TRON0314
Жыл бұрын
@@drforjc NAVY, Airforce, and other agencies use xbox controllers. Inputs and ergonomics have been worked out.
@chupacabra1817
Жыл бұрын
@@nickyalousakis3851 gimme a nice fiery plane crash any day. I don't think you're gonna sell anyone on this, nick.
Even without this tragedy you couldnt PAY me a quarter million dollars, or any amount of money to do something like this.
This "thing" has basically no secure system or life support. It relays on SMS for position and it's not even connected to the main ship. Unbelievable. 😑
This submarine was the first one to be built from carbon fiber. Which is a new untested technology. Prior that all submarines were made of metal. Carbon fiber under pressure can snap without warning. I think that was the fatal mistake.
@MaxPower-vf8kt
Жыл бұрын
When I heard this thing was made of carbon fibre, I was like, “They are done.” There is a LOT of safety/maintenance in airplanes that use carbon fibre, and most experience a few G’s; this guy seemed to have no safety procedures. I doubt he is doing regular NDT testing on all these “Off the shelf” parts and carbon fibre. This guy’s lack of safety concern is not what you want at those depths and pressures.
@fidelcatsro6948
Жыл бұрын
yes i agree, diving in a huge metal pipe wouldve been safer
@PlanetIscandar
Жыл бұрын
*@markmd9* I disagree because the tensile strength of carbon fiber is extremely high and therefore if they combined this material in the right way it would (or could) strengthen the entire structure. But we need someone expert to explain it in all detail. The main question is "What caused and facilitated this disaster to happen".
@vipermad358
Жыл бұрын
It is a submersible, NOT a submarine. BIG DIFFERENCE. 😂
@PlanetIscandar
Жыл бұрын
@@vipermad358 Yeah. Kursk for example, was a submarine and it sunk 100m deep. No survivors.
I notice that when they speak about the expertise of the “crew” they don’t mention the business man who took his 19 year old son down there with him. What was that guy thinking?
@LeslieCYPRESS536
Жыл бұрын
Terrible decision
@emlee5905
Жыл бұрын
Ego and arrogance given to them by privilege
@KiyokoSa
Жыл бұрын
Two generations lost
@jhwstar3
Жыл бұрын
@@KiyokoSa let's keep a positive mind here. There's always a chance. I really hope they are rescued.
@jhwstar3
Жыл бұрын
@@cg4806 😞😞😞😞
They fully knew that death was part of the risk. And they literally signed up for it.
He tried everything possible to die. Life gave him too many chances before this, but the man was too determined.
"Its not ment for tourists." Say that to the father that brought his 19 year old with him on the sub.
This man's first instincts were correct. Too much trust in the scientists who designed this thing. The Ocean demands respect.
@StarLight-sl9ok
Жыл бұрын
That sub is a complete hunk of junk. This guy is honestly lucky to be alive.
@annalieff-saxby568
Жыл бұрын
There's nothing wrong with the science. There are many problems with ignoring the findings of science to save a few bucks.
@trident8480
Жыл бұрын
They didn't have any scientists they had uni students build it
@1977edd
Жыл бұрын
@Maal_wali_aunty_2 you seem like a comedian.That was hilarious
@tonysheerness2427
Жыл бұрын
To much blind faith in scientists, machines and designers. My impression of machinery is very bad as an engineer I only saw broken ones. Also everything has a life, how many dives was this capsule rated for?
How can you trust someone who tells you that a dive at the bottom of the ocean will be a walk in the park
Yes, safety is in fact relative. Relative to your survival chances.
OCEANGATE and billionaire tourists should pay for the search and rescue not any government! Not my tax dollars
These men are adults and made a choice to go down 13,000 feet. This not Disneyworld. People have this idea that money can buy you absolute safety, there is a reason why this is adventure tourism.....It's extreme, these guys get their kicks by being able to tell the country club about their adventure...The risk, the danger, the awe, thrill and experience. It's all part of it.
@KcTc344
Жыл бұрын
im alot more sad for the researcher and the 19 year old. Doing these tours probably help fund his research and the 19 year old might of only gone on the wim of his father
@aboveitall9600
Жыл бұрын
@@KcTc344 Maybe. I think they all made an informed choice. When I was young, I had a fascination with the ship. I think it was 50k-100K then, if I had the money as a teen...I think I would have gone for it knowing the risks involved. Of course I don't have a 100K disposable income for a vacation.
@codeine_ninja
Жыл бұрын
@@aboveitall9600im 17 and trust me being 19 doesnt mean at all u are an adult lol you’re delusional
@DeShawnMcDonald
Жыл бұрын
@KcTc344 there's no age that's to young to not understand why this is a bad idea. Yall act like people younger then you can't form thoughts properly no the kid made the choice to do what he did knowing full well what could happen. It's the sea it's not like this is some mysterious portal that just opened up we all know how salt water and pressure works
@ChuyR.
Жыл бұрын
When you are young you are very likely to take any opportunity that is put in front of you, especially if this was his choice of career, if he was studying accounting he didnt have to be there.
imagine 10000 feet down the ocean and your captain says he forgot to put batteries in the joystick
Apparently the waver they all signed mentioned death 3 times on the first page alone! 😮
The worst scenario is not bobbing away on the surface...if you are at the bottom of the ocean 13000 feet down..that's a hellish nightmare I don't think anyone would want to be in.
@Charmander009
Жыл бұрын
No dumbo , If ur at bottom ud be fine , ud accept death but if ur on top then it’s like ur basicaly an inch away from survival but because I can’t get door open ur trapped . Anyway ur too dumb to understand
@Patrick3183
Жыл бұрын
The guy being interviewed is an idiot
'I knew that they wouldn't do this if it was really dangerous.' Tell me you lack all judgment without telling me you lack all judgment.
I feel like they got what they paid for, the original Titanic experience.
He couldn't wrap his head around the reality that death was a possibility, the way he talks about the CEO in present and future tense. I wonder what he would say now about this?
Safety is relative? If someone wants to say that in regards to his/her own self that's one thing but to convince others of that is irresponsible and arrogant.
@patryk6492
Жыл бұрын
that is absolutely true. there is nothing in life that is absolutely safe. even some of the most strict industries like aerospace require a level of risk of part failure to be bound to the order of magnitude of e.g. 1 per 1, 10, or 100 million flying hours, not infinite.
"Everything can fail but you will still be alive". For the moment that is.
@DeShawnMcDonald
Жыл бұрын
And rather then go "so your saying this thing is designed for slow deaths, well duck that nevermind" they went bet and just kept it pushing. I've never seen this level of idiocy before in my life.
@BingoNamo-gb8pz
Жыл бұрын
So in his mind as long as the hull is intact everything is fine because some genius out there will figure out a way to rescue you within 96 hours?
@dubstepforever99
Жыл бұрын
everything fails but you will be safe until there is no more oxygen.. and we have no safety features or some kind of way to locate it.
@rearspeaker6364
Жыл бұрын
He must have forgot something🤣🤣🤣
I think except for scientific research reason......going out and visiting a sunken vessel that claimed so many lifes like a tourist spot is insane.
@philipwoodhouse4835
Жыл бұрын
Scientific research is a lie and an excuse. Nobody seems to know what they've researched and discovered as they were sending unmanned submersibles before this. I can't find a single thing that having a human under there has discovered relative to the area or wreck. Where is the scientist if it's for scientific research
Well, he was correct. Unfortunately the customers probably wanted safety relative to the industry standard.
Im wondering if it has crossed their minds to ‘eliminate’ the others to give themselves more days of survival.