This Is Western Pleasure! For those that don't know many breeds like Saddlebreds, Friesians, and Arabians heads are still kept up this is mainly due to their conformation. You can definitely train them to have low heads but it will not look the best and their ability to gait will greatly be impacted as a high head opens up their shoulders. In Western Pleasure they have to perform the gaits Jog and Lope these are slowed down versions of the Trot and Canter. When a Saddlebred performs the Jog they want it to be less expressive but this horse wasn't having that lol and did the fully gaited trot. Of course not all Saddlebreds are 5 gaited nor do they all have that extra motion to their step, it just comes with breeding and the right training to perfect and hold it.
@medelle7003
10 ай бұрын
There isn't any such thing as a gaited trot. "Gaited" refers to the slow gait and rack. What's being called baited is just an animated trot, jog, or canter.
@introvertedequinesamsara6593
10 ай бұрын
@@medelle7003 the reason horses are gaited is because a mutation on their DMRT3 gene which effects their locomotion (that includes animation). Saddlebreds have this mutation, it definitely effects some more than others but it is prevalent in the breed regardless if they're 3 or 5 gaited. Trotty breeds vs Running breeds have alot of differences from not just the presence of the DMRT3 gene but even skeletally with sharper angles. It's in this reason I'd consider Trotting breeds as gaited or a sub group of being gaited. As even if they might not always have the gaited gaits that DMRT3 gene is still present and effecting their gaits. "in the DMRT3 gene affects both the ability to show ambling and lateral gaits in a wide range of horse breeds, as well as racing performance and trotting technique in Standardbred and Nordic trotters."
@JuanitaThompson-cm5tq
5 күн бұрын
Stopped by to see the Saddlebreds and got bonus equine science lessons! I didn’t know all that- Thanks!😂
@toriaaaa___ Жыл бұрын
Saddlebreds continue to amaze me! They're such a gorgeous breed, and that gallop/lope at the end was beautiful!
@katelynbahr19023 ай бұрын
There tails are nicked or braced which damages the tendons purely for show purposes, such a selfish sport.
@rosecampion4337
2 ай бұрын
My daughter and I watched a video on how this is done. It’s truly cruel and disgusting.
@Theonlineponies
Ай бұрын
Not all do that tho you realize that right?!?!?
@katelynbahr1902
Ай бұрын
@@Theonlineponies enough do it that the sport should be banned
@-BrowniePoints-
Ай бұрын
@@katelynbahr1902 umm no. There is abuse in every discipline so just learn, so stop continuing this conversation (Sry if sounded rude)
@katelynbahr1902
Ай бұрын
@@-BrowniePoints- Yes every sport has a amount a abuse (not a good thing) but this sport has a excessive amount
@mariawojciechowska85045 ай бұрын
These horses always make me think of barbie horse i used to have as a kid
@thatchickenchick6168 Жыл бұрын
This is so cool!!! Amazing edit!!
@Juniper_edits Жыл бұрын
Just wow. Such a beautiful horse (both of them).
@Blade_forever
2 ай бұрын
Wdym both of them it’s only one horse
@HazelKinglight_art
2 күн бұрын
@@Blade_foreverhorse and rider
@EmmalineThompson9 ай бұрын
I love watching saddlebreds do western and the way they keep their head up high just looks so different from quarter horses and Arabians
@isla_eqq4 ай бұрын
that transition from trot to canter in the first clip was so smooth 😻 edit: im not very educated in western pleasure so im not too sure on what the gaits are called!
@WalkTimeEquestrian5 ай бұрын
Gorgeous 🤩
@Aubrey-rb6zs5 ай бұрын
I love it I am a huge fan
@bridger_en_pointe Жыл бұрын
Another thing that influences if they gait or step high, is talent. People don’t realize that saddlebreds can be talented and that’s why they step high just like how some western pleasure breeds will just naturally be slower and have less suspension because that’s the way they just move
@introvertedequinesamsara6593
Жыл бұрын
100% not every horse has the potential to be a high level horse even if they have the best breeding or trainers for it. It's one of those issues we tend to see alot of in Jumping, someone buys a Warmblood type horse and expects them to be able to one day be Olympic level but it turns out the most that horse is able to go is intermediate.
@RandomFilms4614 күн бұрын
I thought this was saddle seat for a sec
@HoofprintTrails8 ай бұрын
The tail 😍✨
@The_SwagEquestrian.9 ай бұрын
Saddlebred horses are absolutely stunning, I don't listen to people who say otherwise. Idk why I love them so much, I haven't rode one, let alone seen one irl as you don't get much in my country but they are a beautiful, fascinating breed of horse x
@detngator Жыл бұрын
The gaits shown are just walk, trot , and canter!
@hadley.myrick8 ай бұрын
aww i love morgan peer sm!!
@SequoiaEditz2 ай бұрын
Saddlebreds in western pleasure are just majestic!
@MP_Equine_editz5 ай бұрын
Some riders force the horses to move with extended leg lifts and it can be abusive. However, i only see this in some shows, and not all saddleseat is abuse.
@trueequestrian7345 Жыл бұрын
Wahhhhh the lopeeee!
@Taylorswiftfp2810 ай бұрын
new sub!🎉❤
@baileylynn64817 ай бұрын
I definitely prefer this to the "peanut rolling" in the quarter horse western pleasure classes. I love the QH,but that's ridiculous
@KpThatHorseRider7 ай бұрын
The first on beat is so nice
@Horsesforlife20246 ай бұрын
Was it just me or was anyone else amazed by the tail ❤🤩
@109367
3 ай бұрын
It's mostly fake usually, just hair extensions lol
@justiceforall5456
Ай бұрын
😢 it not nice , sad
@radchannel5494
Ай бұрын
Western pleasure is a branch of the Country Pleasure division. No artificial hairpieces are permitted and horses must be flat shod. A long flowing tail is the hallmark of a well kept horse in the Saddlebred world b
@Kinleys_Random_Page Жыл бұрын
How do you indicate to do the special gait?
@radchannel5494
8 ай бұрын
If you mean the slow gait/rack, you’ll sit deeper into the saddle, add leg pressure, raise your hands a little and pick at the outside snaffle rein. It depends on how they are trained but that’s the cue for many.
@jerickbirk2 ай бұрын
❤
@dreamgaits11 ай бұрын
Don't they also rack?
@radchannel5494
8 ай бұрын
Not in the Western division. They gait in the 5 gaited classes only.
@dreamgaits
8 ай бұрын
Thanks, that's a shame. There were no gaited classes at this show. @@radchannel5494
@melanieyoungs906020 күн бұрын
No, all of that is abuse. You guys are so good to those horses. They should not even be a sport anymore.
@Therianpower-lover3 ай бұрын
Some gaits off American saddlebred is abuse and is this abuse I don’t think so
@introvertedequinesamsara6593
3 ай бұрын
Saddlebreds are a Trotting breed they naturally have more action to their gaits, no different than any other Trotting breed like Friesians, Hackneys, Dutch Harness, Andalusians, etc. Not all Saddlebreds will have as much action as breeding plays a huge role in this along with energy level, drive, terrain, how they're ridden/rider influence, and yes training (you wouldn't expect a FEI level dressage horse to move the same as a 1st level would you?) Not to mention there's a different between 5 gaited and 3 gaited Saddlebreds. 3 gaited only possess the gaits Walk, Trot and Canter; while 5 gaited possess/can be taught the gaits Walk, Trot, Slow gait, Canter and Rack. These extra gaits aren't abuse they're caused by the gaited gene DMRT3 which allows more flexibility in their gaits and footfall patterns. If teaching a Saddlebred to Rack is abuse than so is teaching a pacer Standardbred to Trot and Canter 🤷🏻♀️
@vivientakacs55997 ай бұрын
The thing about saddle seat (not this, I know this wasn't that), is that on top of having high heads, the riders still want the horse to move the head back and nose down, so the horses become cramped. And not to mention the disgusting position where they are sitting. In a western saddle, the saddle is put on normally, not far back and you can see these horses move a lot more freely. Though it's also a fact that two things enhance the movements: long, downward hooves (VERY bad for their legs and spine), and shoes that even in saddle seat horses are higher. (I'm not talking about stacks, but shoes. I've also seen those on jumpers though as well as a few dressage riders back a couple years ago.) So yeah. These horses definitely have a different movement, but they can be ridden in a healthy way, like here (though I still despise those bits), but at least the horses are being ridden well. And the underside of their neck also doesn't seem so overdeveloped like in saddle seat riding.
@Warriorbob-im5py
4 ай бұрын
You really don’t know shit do you? The saddle doesn’t sit any different than a western saddle. It just has a cut out to allow the shoulders unrestricted movement. Long hooves are not the breed standard and pleasure classes don’t allow heavy shoes. The head set should not “cramp” the horses neck. The horses you see that are super tucked are naturally that way.
@REID_xo10 ай бұрын
GO MORGAN
@user-hx2wh5sf6m20 күн бұрын
This is so rude what you guys do to these poor horses
@Kay_Equestrain8 ай бұрын
That is still abuse. The horse's tail *Looks* like it was nicked.
@Ck_hobbyhorses
8 ай бұрын
Its the breed😭
@Ck_hobbyhorses
8 ай бұрын
Its like arabians but saddlebred’s tails are longer
@Kay_Equestrain
8 ай бұрын
@Bluebelleqcenter yes but no. Yes, they do keep their tails up high. But this is what a saddlebred tail looks like when it has been nicked. Which can be fatal to the horse.
@Jupiterrings.
7 ай бұрын
This horses tail wasn’t nicked, a lot of breeds when excited naturally lift their tails.
@radchannel5494
Ай бұрын
Only if the incision was improperly cared for and allowed to become infected. With proper care/hygiene and best practices the incision is completely healed in 2-3 weeks.
@K9Equestrian7 ай бұрын
A saddlebred doing dressage or cross country looks nothing like that. Abuse
@Tortellini_and_Freddi
5 ай бұрын
Those horses probably weren't bred for this. Some ASB horses aren't as highly bred as these horses so they are better at different disciplines
@horsegirlglitterbomb
4 ай бұрын
Maybe because these horses aren't sport saddlebred and are show saddlebreds 🤯🤯
@Schleich_Horses_Super Жыл бұрын
Making a horse raise its legs so high is cruel! And who says that this training is just a fool
@jenb462
Жыл бұрын
They ain't making em do no such thing. That's the horses natural movement. Educate yourself there skooter
@introvertedequinesamsara6593
11 ай бұрын
Saddlebreds, Dutch Harness, Hackney ponies, Friesians, etc are all Trotting breeds. They move like this naturally, some move better than others because genetics 💫 but this is natural. There also isn't anything wrong with training a horse to have more expression or action in their gaits. It's what Dressage is prized for.
@denisemasters1933
11 ай бұрын
ASBs are natural high steppers -- you've never seen babies in the pasture
@radchannel5494
Ай бұрын
I have a mare that moved like this turned out barefooted in her paddock this morning.
@Horse_girl44611 ай бұрын
It looks like horse abuse to me. I’m not trying to be rude.
@Trainfor_Golden
10 ай бұрын
It isn't, don't worry!
@radchannel5494
8 ай бұрын
It isn’t. It’s the result of hours of training for patience, obedience, balance and collection. I used to show my ASB mare western, best backyard mare to whup up on the big boys ever was.
@eyebrow_consumerАй бұрын
If I’m being real, my favorite part about saddlebreds isn’t the height they gait at it’s the head carriage 😾🫶🏻
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This Is Western Pleasure! For those that don't know many breeds like Saddlebreds, Friesians, and Arabians heads are still kept up this is mainly due to their conformation. You can definitely train them to have low heads but it will not look the best and their ability to gait will greatly be impacted as a high head opens up their shoulders. In Western Pleasure they have to perform the gaits Jog and Lope these are slowed down versions of the Trot and Canter. When a Saddlebred performs the Jog they want it to be less expressive but this horse wasn't having that lol and did the fully gaited trot. Of course not all Saddlebreds are 5 gaited nor do they all have that extra motion to their step, it just comes with breeding and the right training to perfect and hold it.
@medelle7003
10 ай бұрын
There isn't any such thing as a gaited trot. "Gaited" refers to the slow gait and rack. What's being called baited is just an animated trot, jog, or canter.
@introvertedequinesamsara6593
10 ай бұрын
@@medelle7003 the reason horses are gaited is because a mutation on their DMRT3 gene which effects their locomotion (that includes animation). Saddlebreds have this mutation, it definitely effects some more than others but it is prevalent in the breed regardless if they're 3 or 5 gaited. Trotty breeds vs Running breeds have alot of differences from not just the presence of the DMRT3 gene but even skeletally with sharper angles. It's in this reason I'd consider Trotting breeds as gaited or a sub group of being gaited. As even if they might not always have the gaited gaits that DMRT3 gene is still present and effecting their gaits. "in the DMRT3 gene affects both the ability to show ambling and lateral gaits in a wide range of horse breeds, as well as racing performance and trotting technique in Standardbred and Nordic trotters."
@JuanitaThompson-cm5tq
5 күн бұрын
Stopped by to see the Saddlebreds and got bonus equine science lessons! I didn’t know all that- Thanks!😂
Saddlebreds continue to amaze me! They're such a gorgeous breed, and that gallop/lope at the end was beautiful!
There tails are nicked or braced which damages the tendons purely for show purposes, such a selfish sport.
@rosecampion4337
2 ай бұрын
My daughter and I watched a video on how this is done. It’s truly cruel and disgusting.
@Theonlineponies
Ай бұрын
Not all do that tho you realize that right?!?!?
@katelynbahr1902
Ай бұрын
@@Theonlineponies enough do it that the sport should be banned
@-BrowniePoints-
Ай бұрын
@@katelynbahr1902 umm no. There is abuse in every discipline so just learn, so stop continuing this conversation (Sry if sounded rude)
@katelynbahr1902
Ай бұрын
@@-BrowniePoints- Yes every sport has a amount a abuse (not a good thing) but this sport has a excessive amount
These horses always make me think of barbie horse i used to have as a kid
This is so cool!!! Amazing edit!!
Just wow. Such a beautiful horse (both of them).
@Blade_forever
2 ай бұрын
Wdym both of them it’s only one horse
@HazelKinglight_art
2 күн бұрын
@@Blade_foreverhorse and rider
I love watching saddlebreds do western and the way they keep their head up high just looks so different from quarter horses and Arabians
that transition from trot to canter in the first clip was so smooth 😻 edit: im not very educated in western pleasure so im not too sure on what the gaits are called!
Gorgeous 🤩
I love it I am a huge fan
Another thing that influences if they gait or step high, is talent. People don’t realize that saddlebreds can be talented and that’s why they step high just like how some western pleasure breeds will just naturally be slower and have less suspension because that’s the way they just move
@introvertedequinesamsara6593
Жыл бұрын
100% not every horse has the potential to be a high level horse even if they have the best breeding or trainers for it. It's one of those issues we tend to see alot of in Jumping, someone buys a Warmblood type horse and expects them to be able to one day be Olympic level but it turns out the most that horse is able to go is intermediate.
I thought this was saddle seat for a sec
The tail 😍✨
Saddlebred horses are absolutely stunning, I don't listen to people who say otherwise. Idk why I love them so much, I haven't rode one, let alone seen one irl as you don't get much in my country but they are a beautiful, fascinating breed of horse x
The gaits shown are just walk, trot , and canter!
aww i love morgan peer sm!!
Saddlebreds in western pleasure are just majestic!
Some riders force the horses to move with extended leg lifts and it can be abusive. However, i only see this in some shows, and not all saddleseat is abuse.
Wahhhhh the lopeeee!
new sub!🎉❤
I definitely prefer this to the "peanut rolling" in the quarter horse western pleasure classes. I love the QH,but that's ridiculous
The first on beat is so nice
Was it just me or was anyone else amazed by the tail ❤🤩
@109367
3 ай бұрын
It's mostly fake usually, just hair extensions lol
@justiceforall5456
Ай бұрын
😢 it not nice , sad
@radchannel5494
Ай бұрын
Western pleasure is a branch of the Country Pleasure division. No artificial hairpieces are permitted and horses must be flat shod. A long flowing tail is the hallmark of a well kept horse in the Saddlebred world b
How do you indicate to do the special gait?
@radchannel5494
8 ай бұрын
If you mean the slow gait/rack, you’ll sit deeper into the saddle, add leg pressure, raise your hands a little and pick at the outside snaffle rein. It depends on how they are trained but that’s the cue for many.
❤
Don't they also rack?
@radchannel5494
8 ай бұрын
Not in the Western division. They gait in the 5 gaited classes only.
@dreamgaits
8 ай бұрын
Thanks, that's a shame. There were no gaited classes at this show. @@radchannel5494
No, all of that is abuse. You guys are so good to those horses. They should not even be a sport anymore.
Some gaits off American saddlebred is abuse and is this abuse I don’t think so
@introvertedequinesamsara6593
3 ай бұрын
Saddlebreds are a Trotting breed they naturally have more action to their gaits, no different than any other Trotting breed like Friesians, Hackneys, Dutch Harness, Andalusians, etc. Not all Saddlebreds will have as much action as breeding plays a huge role in this along with energy level, drive, terrain, how they're ridden/rider influence, and yes training (you wouldn't expect a FEI level dressage horse to move the same as a 1st level would you?) Not to mention there's a different between 5 gaited and 3 gaited Saddlebreds. 3 gaited only possess the gaits Walk, Trot and Canter; while 5 gaited possess/can be taught the gaits Walk, Trot, Slow gait, Canter and Rack. These extra gaits aren't abuse they're caused by the gaited gene DMRT3 which allows more flexibility in their gaits and footfall patterns. If teaching a Saddlebred to Rack is abuse than so is teaching a pacer Standardbred to Trot and Canter 🤷🏻♀️
The thing about saddle seat (not this, I know this wasn't that), is that on top of having high heads, the riders still want the horse to move the head back and nose down, so the horses become cramped. And not to mention the disgusting position where they are sitting. In a western saddle, the saddle is put on normally, not far back and you can see these horses move a lot more freely. Though it's also a fact that two things enhance the movements: long, downward hooves (VERY bad for their legs and spine), and shoes that even in saddle seat horses are higher. (I'm not talking about stacks, but shoes. I've also seen those on jumpers though as well as a few dressage riders back a couple years ago.) So yeah. These horses definitely have a different movement, but they can be ridden in a healthy way, like here (though I still despise those bits), but at least the horses are being ridden well. And the underside of their neck also doesn't seem so overdeveloped like in saddle seat riding.
@Warriorbob-im5py
4 ай бұрын
You really don’t know shit do you? The saddle doesn’t sit any different than a western saddle. It just has a cut out to allow the shoulders unrestricted movement. Long hooves are not the breed standard and pleasure classes don’t allow heavy shoes. The head set should not “cramp” the horses neck. The horses you see that are super tucked are naturally that way.
GO MORGAN
This is so rude what you guys do to these poor horses
That is still abuse. The horse's tail *Looks* like it was nicked.
@Ck_hobbyhorses
8 ай бұрын
Its the breed😭
@Ck_hobbyhorses
8 ай бұрын
Its like arabians but saddlebred’s tails are longer
@Kay_Equestrain
8 ай бұрын
@Bluebelleqcenter yes but no. Yes, they do keep their tails up high. But this is what a saddlebred tail looks like when it has been nicked. Which can be fatal to the horse.
@Jupiterrings.
7 ай бұрын
This horses tail wasn’t nicked, a lot of breeds when excited naturally lift their tails.
@radchannel5494
Ай бұрын
Only if the incision was improperly cared for and allowed to become infected. With proper care/hygiene and best practices the incision is completely healed in 2-3 weeks.
A saddlebred doing dressage or cross country looks nothing like that. Abuse
@Tortellini_and_Freddi
5 ай бұрын
Those horses probably weren't bred for this. Some ASB horses aren't as highly bred as these horses so they are better at different disciplines
@horsegirlglitterbomb
4 ай бұрын
Maybe because these horses aren't sport saddlebred and are show saddlebreds 🤯🤯
Making a horse raise its legs so high is cruel! And who says that this training is just a fool
@jenb462
Жыл бұрын
They ain't making em do no such thing. That's the horses natural movement. Educate yourself there skooter
@introvertedequinesamsara6593
11 ай бұрын
Saddlebreds, Dutch Harness, Hackney ponies, Friesians, etc are all Trotting breeds. They move like this naturally, some move better than others because genetics 💫 but this is natural. There also isn't anything wrong with training a horse to have more expression or action in their gaits. It's what Dressage is prized for.
@denisemasters1933
11 ай бұрын
ASBs are natural high steppers -- you've never seen babies in the pasture
@radchannel5494
Ай бұрын
I have a mare that moved like this turned out barefooted in her paddock this morning.
It looks like horse abuse to me. I’m not trying to be rude.
@Trainfor_Golden
10 ай бұрын
It isn't, don't worry!
@radchannel5494
8 ай бұрын
It isn’t. It’s the result of hours of training for patience, obedience, balance and collection. I used to show my ASB mare western, best backyard mare to whup up on the big boys ever was.
If I’m being real, my favorite part about saddlebreds isn’t the height they gait at it’s the head carriage 😾🫶🏻