Sad Day; Failed Env200 UPDATE Video #2

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An update as to where we are at with the Nissan Env200 that the battery failed on. Its all sorted and running super well now.

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  • @johnmilner0859
    @johnmilner08594 ай бұрын

    I smiled when you pulled up at the charger. I remember when you first did videos with the Leaf and every time you went to a charger you had to mess about with apps and accounts. If there is one thing that has improved it’s contactless payments. What hasn’t us the price they charge. Glad you got the vehicle fixed.

  • @FritsvanderHolst
    @FritsvanderHolst4 ай бұрын

    Lovely, going from (very) limited range to proper range is really the best feeling when owning a used EV.

  • @IanSampsonRLO

    @IanSampsonRLO

    3 ай бұрын

    Yup!

  • @alanlee2751
    @alanlee27514 ай бұрын

    Really pleased for you Ian. Wish there were more Ed’s across the UK.

  • @IanSampsonRLO

    @IanSampsonRLO

    4 ай бұрын

    That would be good!

  • @Whereswally606
    @Whereswally6064 ай бұрын

    Glad you went this way. Exactly what ive done with my env200. Ed's price is pretty hard to beat there. Its not easy to get a decent soh 40 pack. As well as upgrading the pdm for 6.6kw charging it is possible to swap for the one out of the e+ leaf. This then gives you 160kw power to the motor. Not sure your wife needs it and its is also a good way to reduce the life of you new to you 40 pack. Anyway good news Ian. Thanks for the update.

  • @IanSampsonRLO

    @IanSampsonRLO

    3 ай бұрын

    160kw to motor, interesting. Is it the same motor I wonder?

  • @tiepup
    @tiepup4 ай бұрын

    Glad it all worked out ok for you. £5000 is not too bad when you consider the money you've already saved on fuel over those 86,000 miles. I sold my 24kWh e-NV200 at 102,000 miles and bought a 40kWh one a couple of years ago as the prices worked out right, my 40kWh one has done 76,000 miles. It was such an improvement, they're a great van and the 40kWh version really does make a big difference.

  • @lyzwi6098
    @lyzwi60984 ай бұрын

    So pleased for you all! The previous vids broke my heart a bit and made us chicken out of buying one

  • @brushlessmotoring

    @brushlessmotoring

    4 ай бұрын

    an EV in general, or a used ENV200 / Nissan Leaf ?

  • @lyzwi6098

    @lyzwi6098

    4 ай бұрын

    @@brushlessmotoring what did we chicken out of? A used e-nv200. We do already have a Renault zoe BEV.

  • @DDLovett
    @DDLovett4 ай бұрын

    Blooming fabulous news. My mate had a catastrophic failure of his engine on his honda crv 2.2 diesel. A gold seal used engine was 5 grand. That lasted 2 years before it died. So your upgrade was no more expensive than the Honda. But he certainly didn't get more range out of his diesel after the engine change.

  • @IanSampsonRLO

    @IanSampsonRLO

    4 ай бұрын

    Good comparison, thanks for sharing

  • @martinweston8147
    @martinweston81474 ай бұрын

    Every cloud…… I think you owe Ed a free beer every week for the life of the battery 😊

  • @jeffcartwright7270
    @jeffcartwright72704 ай бұрын

    Hi Ian - Glad you are all sorted now !. Brilliant job Edd 😉. Of course having to pay out £5,000 for a replacement battery, is never ideal situation. Of course we fully expect that this will be totally scoffed at by the anti EV mob. But before hitting the key board, consider this. If you had an ICE vehicle and it required a new engine after covering a similar mileage of 80,000 miles, what do you think it would cost to purchase the unit and then have installed ?. Also, it maybe worth thinking about the outlay on fossil fuel and servicing costs over that 80,000 miles of course. These EV cost savings will make a tidy reduction in the price of the finished repair Ian. Just saying 😞.

  • @johnkeen2345
    @johnkeen23454 ай бұрын

    Glad you got the van fixed as it was the ideal transport for you and the family

  • @jean-marcgruninger9019
    @jean-marcgruninger90194 ай бұрын

    great, 40kwh upgrade for 5k is the biz!

  • @IanSampsonRLO

    @IanSampsonRLO

    3 ай бұрын

    It is!

  • @rbcleaningskegness9191
    @rbcleaningskegness91914 ай бұрын

    Hi Ian glad you sorted the ENV 200 out. Been watching your videos for a while now, I've just bought one (van) on a 19 reg and had it for 3 weeks now and it was showing 145 when we picked it up it's on 164 miles now. Me and the wife are new to the EV scene and we are liking it. From Richard

  • @IanSampsonRLO

    @IanSampsonRLO

    4 ай бұрын

    Brill! Thats really good! Welcome to the env200!

  • @pauldenney7908
    @pauldenney79084 ай бұрын

    So if the original battery did 86k and you just spent £5k on a new one then that works out at about 6p a mile. Add 2p ish a mile for off peak/ solar and that's 8p or 82 mpg equivalent. If this battery does another 86k (being twice the capacity it will probably do more) then let's say you scrap the car when the new battery dies then your cost comes down to 5p or 131 mpg equivalent. I would say that's remarkabley good value.

  • @EdTurner.

    @EdTurner.

    4 ай бұрын

    And do not forget to factor in the £2500-3000 repair bill 3 of my friends had for their diesel transit customs before they were 4 years old and the 2 to 3 weeks off the road that the repairs take, and outrageous road tax. I am not sure how these roadside rapid chargers are getting away with 80p per kw though that is way more than equivalent diesel , and criminal compared to tesla super charging. Ed

  • @pauldenney7908

    @pauldenney7908

    4 ай бұрын

    Ed, I think what they have worked out is that most people only charge using a rapid very infrequently so they can get away with charging 80p because for 95% of the time people are charging at home on off-peak for a few pence. If you cant charge at home though you are stuffed. if you regularly do long trips you are better off having a cheap diesel car just for that and an EV for all your local stuff.

  • @EdTurner.

    @EdTurner.

    4 ай бұрын

    Plus there is 20%vat on at that not the 5% you pay at home. I feel lucky to have the Tesla network. 13min charge ups (with pre conditioning) many chargers in a row , no messing with payment cards and at a reasonable rate, the 3 times a year we need away from home charging.

  • @GoGreenAutos
    @GoGreenAutos4 ай бұрын

    Ian, you want to consider switching Octopus Intelligent. I assume you're currently using Octopus Go. Intelligent extends the cheap night rate period to six hours plus you get additional periods at the cheap rate. Plus its 7.5p vs 9p and ideal for your 3.3kW charging ENV200. You wont need to splash out on the onboard charger upgrade. There's an advantage to having a slower charging rate when using Intelligent as you get longer cheap rate periods, so your house usage benefits too.

  • @markfitzpatrick6692
    @markfitzpatrick66924 ай бұрын

    That is great Ian that you got the battery replacement. Too bad cleverly was too much James coats does great work. I still have my 2012 leaf from when I watched your videos. Hope you Amy and kids are great

  • @IanSampsonRLO

    @IanSampsonRLO

    4 ай бұрын

    Thanks 👍

  • @Lookup2Wakeup
    @Lookup2Wakeup4 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the update 👌

  • @IanSampsonRLO

    @IanSampsonRLO

    4 ай бұрын

    No problem!

  • @jameschapman4824
    @jameschapman48244 ай бұрын

    Glad you got it fixed and everything is working well.

  • @paulgreen8996
    @paulgreen89964 ай бұрын

    congratulations Ian - afraid you won't get your 23k viewers for this one - good news doesn't attract the crowds 🙃

  • @IanSampsonRLO

    @IanSampsonRLO

    4 ай бұрын

    Googles AI says ‘nah’

  • @andyt1048
    @andyt10484 ай бұрын

    Fantastic really glad you got it sorted.

  • @SDBWhiteside
    @SDBWhiteside4 ай бұрын

    Brilliant - what a result!

  • @kelvineldridge
    @kelvineldridge4 ай бұрын

    Thanks Ian for the update. Good to hear you got the car fixed for a reasonable price. To the next 86,000 miles.

  • @juliandavies7890
    @juliandavies78903 ай бұрын

    Pleased to hear you got it sorted for a good price. I have now upgraded from my 22 Kwh Zoe to a ZE50 Iconic EV50. Totally different beast and three times the range. You must now have the longest range ENV200.

  • @cwilsonpa
    @cwilsonpa4 ай бұрын

    I’m happy that you were able to find someone to get the repair/upgrade for your eNV200 . Fantastic not a bad price considering the upgraded range.

  • @brushlessmotoring
    @brushlessmotoring4 ай бұрын

    Very nice - glad there was a good ending, it's like a brand new van! Are you charging your Leafs to 100% on a regular basis? With the 40kWh pack you should hopefully be able to aim for 80% on a regular basis, and extend the life even longer (as I understand it for that chemistry). It will be interesting to see if this video gets the same 23K views on the 'fix' as it got on the 'broken', to spread the good news to the doomsayers? Might be good to interview Ed or promote his channel if he has one to see how difficult / scaleable such services are - we are seeing quite a few local mechanics wonder what their future will be in an electrified world, feels like there is a good news story here, but also what happens to the dead pack, would be good to talk about where the materials go, what they are worth as scrap - the trope is they end up in landfill, but that isn't the case - always take your batteries, large or small - to an appropriate facility folks! Great video, I hope it gets the same reach as the original.

  • @IanSampsonRLO

    @IanSampsonRLO

    4 ай бұрын

    We shall see what KZread AI decides to do with the video…hmmm… I asked Ed about promoting him and its not something he wanted (done more to help/fun than a business model).

  • @brushlessmotoring

    @brushlessmotoring

    4 ай бұрын

    @@IanSampsonRLO that’s a good news story too - that you can repair (some) EVs as a side gig, and not be dependent on the dealers ripping you off. Recent Canadian mess over debris impact on an Ionic 5 costing $60,000 to replace the battery, I think your experience is a great counterpoint. To keep the charge at 80% on a leaf is a bit of a hassle as I understand it, you have to do careful timed charges?

  • @Eb3nez3r
    @Eb3nez3r4 ай бұрын

    Fantastic result :)

  • @stricardo1
    @stricardo14 ай бұрын

    Great information - thanks. I would be interested how the extra range impacts how Amy uses/lives with the car.

  • @gpwisbey
    @gpwisbey4 ай бұрын

    thanks for update great price we need more people like Ed

  • @IanSampsonRLO

    @IanSampsonRLO

    3 ай бұрын

    True!

  • @tubztergaming5700
    @tubztergaming57004 ай бұрын

    brill!

  • @IanSampsonRLO

    @IanSampsonRLO

    4 ай бұрын

    Yay!

  • @fodrocksuk.forestofdeanroc5686
    @fodrocksuk.forestofdeanroc56864 ай бұрын

    🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @rhiantaylor3446
    @rhiantaylor34464 ай бұрын

    Of course, by extending the range you reduce the proportion of trips where you need to pay 79p/kWh to charge while away from home, so that helps. I have always liked the ENV200 but with this upgrade it becomes even more attractive ! I was going to suggest Ovo Charge Anytime but you would need a compatible charger as Nissan doesn't seem to have API access for Ovo to monitor/manage charging otherwise.

  • @IanSampsonRLO

    @IanSampsonRLO

    4 ай бұрын

    Correct, less need for public charging with current prices can only be good!

  • @0Nick0
    @0Nick04 ай бұрын

    79p per kwh is crazy, In NZ the prices range from free, 11p, 19p, 22p, 34p, 39p. Tesla superchargers are the most 46p - 48p

  • @johnnorth9355
    @johnnorth93554 ай бұрын

    Been following of and on for years since you started with the Zoe. I still wonder at Nissans ability to shoot itself in the foot. So nearly a brilliant market leading product at the time ruined by indifference to it's one glaring fault. I'm glad you found someone to rescue the situation.

  • @deanm7430
    @deanm74304 ай бұрын

    My 2017 leaf 30 only had 3.3 OBC after 6 years keeping charging to 80% were possible it had 94% soh when sold. I believe lower charge rate helped 👍

  • @michaelgoode9555
    @michaelgoode95554 ай бұрын

    Personally I'd leave it as is. Charging mostly to 80% is definitely better for the battery long term as I understand it and it still has more than enough range for it's daily use.

  • @anthonybrown4874
    @anthonybrown48744 ай бұрын

    Interesting piece showing thst with determination its possible to extend and enhance the vehicles life, though how many 24kwh NV200 get this repair/ upgrade is anyone's guess. It does highlight how important backward compatability could be in the life cycle of EVs as far as Battery and motor components.

  • @younggarethr
    @younggarethr4 ай бұрын

    Pleased you got it sorted mate.

  • @IanSampsonRLO

    @IanSampsonRLO

    4 ай бұрын

    Cheers!

  • @FionaC1
    @FionaC14 ай бұрын

    Fantastic 🎉

  • @IanSampsonRLO

    @IanSampsonRLO

    4 ай бұрын

    Thanks 🤗

  • @carlarrowsmith
    @carlarrowsmith4 ай бұрын

    £5k+ is what you'd have paid new to get increased capacity, seems a deal to me and makes it so much more useable.

  • @FionaC1
    @FionaC14 ай бұрын

    79p pkwh?! Wow. It’s a long time since I used a public charger, but I had no idea it could be that high

  • @IanSampsonRLO

    @IanSampsonRLO

    4 ай бұрын

    Totally out of control. Inexcusable imo

  • @jameschapman4824

    @jameschapman4824

    4 ай бұрын

    And there are even some that are more expensive then that. Scandalous

  • @FFVoyager

    @FFVoyager

    4 ай бұрын

    r@@jameschapman482458p/kWh at Reading services Tesla Superchargers - open to all - as I type this. (5:55). No CHAdeMO though!

  • @xinam
    @xinam4 ай бұрын

    Great news! One question, how did you stretcher it to the guy who fixed it? Several charge stops en route, or was it trailered?

  • @IanSampsonRLO

    @IanSampsonRLO

    4 ай бұрын

    Trailered, £250. Would have been nice if he was local!

  • @leomonkeyhanger6382
    @leomonkeyhanger63824 ай бұрын

    Ian, just a thought re the overnight charging....If it can be done at all, the 6.6kW charger fitted to the ENV200 may be expensive. However there's another option. V2G and V2H chargers use the ChaDeMo connection capable of 6.6kW import rate as well as export rate. If you just want to use the import rate it may be worth looking for an Indra or Wallbox charger going second hand and charge overnight at 6.6kW. I suppose there will be some on your forum who will know if this is actually possible and if so, how to go about it. If you can it could be a cheaper way to do things...and work on both cars.....

  • @prop7184
    @prop71844 ай бұрын

    Hi Ian, so glad you got the ENV200 sorted. With regard to your 4 hour charging window, have you not got a way to get Octopus Intelligent which would give you 6 hours of off peak charging?

  • @stephenparker832
    @stephenparker8324 ай бұрын

    Hi Ian Glad it's all done, I charge my kia soul to 80% when I not going on a long run And try not to go lower than 20%, Only charge up to 100% when I'm doing a long run. This is advice l had read up on, It's to perlong battery life.

  • @speedysmart1

    @speedysmart1

    4 ай бұрын

    I am not 100% sold on this... It feels like a common myth. Your EV will not let you completely deplete your battery so go for 15% or 10%. The top 10-20% is for battery balancing - so it charges all battery groups to even up capacity. If you do not do the battery balancing then you will be 'cooking' the 80%. Also your battery management will lose the plot if you do not do an occasional 100%->20% (or less)->100% cycle. It measures input and output power and it runs out of fingers and thumbs from time to time and so needs the limits recalibrating. Well worth doing. I am on my 4th EV and that policy seems to have worked - always get 100% battery report when serviced. In the case of the eNV200 you have (or in this case had) so little range that you needed 100%!

  • @simonhenry7867
    @simonhenry78674 ай бұрын

    If you get a wallbox and octopus offer a 6 HR charge window.

  • @ram64man
    @ram64man4 ай бұрын

    Yep do the inverter as well , mk! Units have a hisof just dying out of nowhere , but can’t remember if a software flash is also required as I have only seen one owner who did the same

  • @andygolesworthy7530
    @andygolesworthy75304 ай бұрын

    I remember that Oxford charger use it many times in my Leaf.

  • @kathleendawson7143
    @kathleendawson71434 ай бұрын

    Have a look at agile good below what your paying when windy and you have batteries to avoid the off peak.heat to see if fixed cheers Brian dawson

  • @KCTalksEV
    @KCTalksEV3 ай бұрын

    Amazing news! I've only just come across this today! 24 to 40kWh for £5k, and a new lease of life for another 8-10 years I suppose? Fingers crossed! On another note, the comments section for this video seems to have less of the luddites from your original... Funny that, can't deal with a positive story right? Just like when they realise that not every vehicle fire is an EV or something like that

  • @IanSampsonRLO

    @IanSampsonRLO

    3 ай бұрын

    I think it has more to do with the AI controlling what videos are pushed and which are not. Videos that do well are always the ones that are ‘suggested’ by youtube to viewers - very frustrating as you are at the mercy of that and nought you can do about it!

  • @bighilly0
    @bighilly04 ай бұрын

    How do we get hold of your man Ian ? And roughly where is he based? Great video sticking it up all the ev haters 👊🏼👍🏼👏🏼

  • @andrewcooke8014

    @andrewcooke8014

    4 ай бұрын

    I'd like to know that too please.

  • @rbdogwood
    @rbdogwoodАй бұрын

    I charge my eNV200 40kWh on off peak Octopus intelligent go 11:30 to 5:30 (you've probably found that tariff by now) that would boost your 3.4 kW charge.

  • @martinstab2
    @martinstab24 ай бұрын

    Glad you got it sorted although I reckon you would get more miles if you sorted the tracking 😋 sorry pet peeve I have a old i-miev that the range is getting low on but unfortunately it wasn't a battery that was updated over time so no cheapish swap out for me Seen theres a place in Australia that sells extended range batterys but I don't think a i-miev is worth spending 9/10k on if not more Is the 40kwh battery heavier than the 24kwh ? Just wondered if it affects your max load capacity either way deffo worth the upgrade

  • @IanSampsonRLO

    @IanSampsonRLO

    4 ай бұрын

    No weight change (noticeable) between the 2. Spec sheets on nissan paperwork dont show and change of 0-60 time either.

  • @Christer885
    @Christer8854 ай бұрын

    😄👍🌹

  • @IanSampsonRLO

    @IanSampsonRLO

    4 ай бұрын

    😎

  • @AdrianMcDaid
    @AdrianMcDaid4 ай бұрын

    Paying the 5k not nice but you now have such different vehicle Would you mind doing update of you solar/Storage ? Thanks

  • @edwyncorteen1527
    @edwyncorteen15274 ай бұрын

    Good news, was he able to include the E-NV200 battery "cooling"

  • @IanSampsonRLO

    @IanSampsonRLO

    4 ай бұрын

    HVAC has been used in the env200 since start of production, unlike the leaf.

  • @declanosullivan8749
    @declanosullivan87494 ай бұрын

    Under 5k is very good Is the new battery used or brand new? What warranty do you get with it? Do you have to inform your insurance company about the new battery, car has been modified etc and delivers more bhp now as well? What about MOT? Do you have to inform them?

  • @groover6782
    @groover67824 ай бұрын

    Hi Ian, that’s fantastic news! We are in the same situation as you were and would like to swap the battery. Please could you give me a contact for Ed? Charlie

  • @antoniopalmero4063
    @antoniopalmero40633 ай бұрын

    Surely Nissan will provide you with a brand new battery pack for all the advertising you have done for them .

  • @IanSampsonRLO

    @IanSampsonRLO

    3 ай бұрын

    Ha ha, no chance

  • @antoniopalmero4063

    @antoniopalmero4063

    3 ай бұрын

    @@IanSampsonRLO The used pack prices have come down a lot i noticed lately , £5k for a 40kwh pack fitted is actually a very good deal .

  • @IanSampsonRLO

    @IanSampsonRLO

    3 ай бұрын

    @@antoniopalmero4063 yeah made it just about worth it!

  • @antoniopalmero4063

    @antoniopalmero4063

    3 ай бұрын

    @@IanSampsonRLO I have a 68 plate leaf Tekna 40kwh , it’s an ex taxi and is just about to hit 100,000 miles . The range is still showing 140+ miles at 100% and will get pretty close to that if driven carefully . Tad more in summer and 110 in the depths of winter .

  • @andrewcooke8014
    @andrewcooke80144 ай бұрын

    My 2014 Env is able to charge limit to 80% are you still able to do this with the new battery? So pleased for you guys. A great family vehicle. Take care

  • @IanSampsonRLO

    @IanSampsonRLO

    3 ай бұрын

    I have not tried, but I think that might be one side affect, on Edds this option is not available to him

  • @dmitriyl4177
    @dmitriyl41774 күн бұрын

    What about the insurance? It is now a "modified" vehicle...

  • @iandobinson8049
    @iandobinson80494 ай бұрын

    You’d be better off slinging the cash you would spend on a 6.6kw into an octopus Intelligent compliant charger like an Ohme . You’ll get 6 hrs slightly cheaper but you’ll also probably get extra cheap sessions as the car won’t take faster than 3.3kw .

  • @carlbugler636
    @carlbugler6364 ай бұрын

    Wow £5k after 85k miles and paying 80 pence per kw, that seems really expensive to me, is 85k failure normal or were you really unlucky? Evs really do have a long way to go to compete with ice van.

  • @haleroe9398
    @haleroe93984 ай бұрын

    5 grand to get a brand new vehicle effectively that will last you for many more years to come

  • @mdacheets
    @mdacheets4 ай бұрын

    Shouldn't the title be amended to Happy Day?

  • @diarmuidlucey7482
    @diarmuidlucey74824 ай бұрын

    Will you need to contact the DVLA because you've modified your car from a 24kw battery to a 40kw battery. The V5 will need to be changed anyway

  • @tiepup

    @tiepup

    4 ай бұрын

    There's nothing on the V5 for battery size (I did look at the V5 for my e-NV200). So how would you let them know, and would they care?

  • @rogercrier9115
    @rogercrier91153 ай бұрын

    Could you please give Eds details, as i need to do this swap✅

  • @IanSampsonRLO

    @IanSampsonRLO

    3 ай бұрын

    I know that there is a waiting list, I am not giving out his details, but if you give me your details I can pass them along

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