S02 E02 African Spirituality: Part 2 with Clive Botha and SIthembile Masilela | Divorce, Scandals

When Prophet Clive Botha came out as a sangoma, that would also still continue practicing as a pastor, he was met with widespread anger, criticism and rejection. His decision would also cause the demise of his marriage to his ex-wife Pastor Sithembile Masilela. In this episode, we hear from them both in a no-holds-barred conversation.

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  • @user-jb7ng2yh4j
    @user-jb7ng2yh4j6 күн бұрын

    When you rely on your own works for salvation, you end up finding external forces to achieve that... I thank God I'm saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ alone! A lost man has the crowds and all the money, nna Jeso ontekane!

  • @BuntuMagqibelo
    @BuntuMagqibelo Жыл бұрын

    This is definitely NOT the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Botha is identifying himself outside of the church. Matth 31 tells us that we are called for souls. This guy is called for money? By WHO? These people he’s leading with have money here on earth and die eternally in hell because the food they eat is not helping them to get closer to God in understanding.

  • @Nonjabulo_Malinga
    @Nonjabulo_Malinga8 ай бұрын

    It is so interesting that when matters of spirituality are spoken about, nobody ever mentions the devil..the architect of confusion! And the fact that he disguises himself in the things that people are so desperate for, like money and power, so much that a person will think it’s okay to pursue the things of this world and God at the same time and genuinely think it’s okay. God is a jealous God, we cannot mix Him with other gods (UBUNGOMA) The fact that disobedience works for someone doesn’t make it right. The fact that Moses struck the water instead of speaking to it and water still came out, did not make what he did right, there were consequences and there will always be consequences when we disobey God. We may not see them today or even tomorrow, it may take years but if we do not repent, the consequences will come.

  • @busisiwemangethe6290

    @busisiwemangethe6290

    4 ай бұрын

    So are you saying spirituality is if devil.? Sad because something big is coming, Change is coming as we are African Christians, uJesu azange aphikise or came here to change things.

  • @Nonjabulo_Malinga

    @Nonjabulo_Malinga

    4 ай бұрын

    This is not my opinion Busisiwe. It is THE WORD OF GOD. Please seek HIM about it. I don’t debate the Word of God, I OBEY it. Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me Exodus 20:5 Thou shall not bow down thyself to them, not serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me The calamities we are seeing in our country right now are not a coincidence, God is visiting the iniquities of the fathers on the children. We forget that God is the LION and the Lamb. He is a God of order and when we disobey, there will be consequences.

  • @valenciasnyman2951
    @valenciasnyman2951 Жыл бұрын

    Mama this is really the love of Christ 🥹l will keep saying l salute u beautiful person in and out.

  • @phumezavinqi2814
    @phumezavinqi281426 күн бұрын

    I enjoyed this podcast and I love how they co parenting we would definitely learn so much from them. I love their healthy relationship.

  • @fionahlongwane9953
    @fionahlongwane9953 Жыл бұрын

    I still love them both, they both thought me alot and uMama blessed me kakhulu, we used to go pray at Mount Zion and shed pray for us to prosper and get job and all that happened. ❤

  • @ntombenhlemabena7096
    @ntombenhlemabena7096 Жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed this, there's really a lot to learn from this couple. We need to raise healthy children. Toxicity always produces dysfunctional families. Well done guys!

  • @thulanokwazihlabisa16
    @thulanokwazihlabisa1610 ай бұрын

    Ngiyabonga Baba wachaza lento banezindlebe bazwile ngiqala kukulandela Mkhulu Amen Thokoza khehla Lami

  • @BuntuMagqibelo
    @BuntuMagqibelo Жыл бұрын

    Awumkhonzi as you want uNkulunkulu. There’s a Bible that tells us HOW we should serve God. This untrue affirmation of crowds is unscriptural

  • @busisiwemangethe6290

    @busisiwemangethe6290

    4 ай бұрын

    Let’s not forget that Bible was changed manipulated to mislead us Brown people.

  • @MaleboOldjohnTsindi
    @MaleboOldjohnTsindi11 ай бұрын

    It's good to find common ground. Respecting each other's beliefs

  • @nthatomashile7842
    @nthatomashile7842 Жыл бұрын

    Now that's an open conversation. Highly enjoyed it. As'bonge!

  • @CELEBUTAIN
    @CELEBUTAIN Жыл бұрын

    This is amazing.

  • @kabelop9082
    @kabelop9082 Жыл бұрын

    Well done guys, premium content throughout all episodes.

  • @noncebastofile9364
    @noncebastofile93649 ай бұрын

    This conversation is so great and powerful. I learnt and understand so much about two sides of spirituality. Thank you so much.

  • @SithembileMasilela-wk4gj
    @SithembileMasilela-wk4gj Жыл бұрын

    This is beautiful

  • @rabelaniramafola2536
    @rabelaniramafola2536 Жыл бұрын

    Beautiful interview ....I love the part that says God is not a Christian

  • @phindilemtsweni93
    @phindilemtsweni93 Жыл бұрын

    I just genuinely Love you guys❤

  • @TaWongs007
    @TaWongs007 Жыл бұрын

    Wow God is a healer in deed❤ this relationship

  • @nonhlanhlamalaza9334
    @nonhlanhlamalaza9334 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing

  • @nonhlanhlamalaza9334
    @nonhlanhlamalaza9334 Жыл бұрын

    Welldone mkhulu n makaZoe great example

  • @tebellomompe3175
    @tebellomompe3175 Жыл бұрын

    Mkhulu can preach in the mean time people will be crying that's hiw powerful he is

  • @mirriamsiphilisiwesibindi3042
    @mirriamsiphilisiwesibindi304221 күн бұрын

    Well done 🎉

  • @busisiwemangethe6290
    @busisiwemangethe62904 ай бұрын

    Ngempela Unkulunkulu akahlukani nokhokho Bethu.

  • @sindiswajacobs6974
    @sindiswajacobs6974 Жыл бұрын

    Present ❤❤❤❤

  • @TheUnChristianPod

    @TheUnChristianPod

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for watching Sindiswa. ❤

  • @busisiwemangethe6290
    @busisiwemangethe62904 ай бұрын

    I Respect umuntu omdala ibambe njalo Khehla, wena uhamba neNkosi uJesu.

  • @user-um2df6xt2u
    @user-um2df6xt2u10 ай бұрын

    Ooh so o cute

  • @sindiswajacobs6974
    @sindiswajacobs6974 Жыл бұрын

    Kodwa there's different Bizo's he has to differentiate...

  • @kabelop9082
    @kabelop9082 Жыл бұрын

    Indeed Nceku Mazibuko this will probably be one of the most powerful sermons they will both ever preach, esp to unbelievers. well done as parents and Christians. 💯

  • @MissCombs1511
    @MissCombs151111 ай бұрын

    May I please be advised (respectfully), the part about him going to the water, are those not marine spirits he fetched? The sticks, what are they signifying?

  • @busisiwemangethe6290

    @busisiwemangethe6290

    4 ай бұрын

    JESUS CHRIST WAS BAPTISED IN THE RIVER.. MARINE SPIRITS😂😂😂

  • @tshepangnhlapo583
    @tshepangnhlapo5832 ай бұрын

    2 Corinthians 6 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¹⁴ Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? ¹⁵ And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? ¹⁶ And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. ¹⁷ Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, ¹⁸ And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

  • @khanyambaswana6857
    @khanyambaswana6857 Жыл бұрын

    Mkhulu woza eKapa phela😅

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