Russia says it DESTROYED a NATO bunker with the Kinzhal?!
Did Russia actually manage to destroy a secret NATO command center hidden hundreds of meters below Ukraine using their hypersonic Kinzhal missile?
No. But Russian trolls pouring into the comment sections of social media platforms and news sites all over the web sure do want you to think that they did.
Let’s dive into this increasingly popular disinformation narrative, where it originated from, and why we can conclusively say that it’s just another attempt at manipulating the narrative surrounding Russia’s fumbled invasion of Ukraine.
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Why on earth would NATO have a forward command center within reach of an air strike without air cover and aerial denial???? Got to love the 50 roubles a post bots😂
@randomuser5443
Жыл бұрын
Damn, they cant even afford 50 cent
@vppriante
Жыл бұрын
Well, air cover don t work with a kinzal
@anthonynightingale6459
Жыл бұрын
@@vppriante Kinzal hasn’t been tested against Patriot Pac3 or Land Ceptor so I’ll take your comment with a pinch of 🧂.
@Frozander
Жыл бұрын
@@vppriante It does, stop with vatnik cope.
@kanash8851
Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure a robux is worth more than a ruble right now lmao
Does anyone remember the 30 NATO Generals that were hiding in the steel works in Mariupol and that's why the Azov regiment was fighting so hard to prevent them being captured? Then when they surrendered the narrative of these NATO Generals from Russian trolls just disappeared and was never spoken of again
@NicolasTheondine
Жыл бұрын
They were not 30. But 30 000. Among the two million NATO soldiers in Ukraine. Of course.
@eppy8454
Жыл бұрын
No, but I remember all the mutants created in a special biohazard laboratory inside Ukraine. 🤪 Mutant mosquitoes, birds, and soldiers. 😂😂
@randomdude2832
Жыл бұрын
I don't remember it ever being 30, but I do remember the speculation abut nato generals, but since no general, noto or otherwise seems to have been captured, I'm left wondering who they were trying to evacuate with helicopters that got shut down.
@sicknote1558
Жыл бұрын
That's the one I heard about lol Chinese whispers 😂
@ivanzlatar2445
Жыл бұрын
@@eppy8454 Now you have just been quoting news from Tucker Carlson ... Russian Puppet !
The Russian Missile destroyed 1,000 Abrams, 100 F-22s, 500 F-35s and somehow every B-21 before it was made using some form of time travel. It then reassembled, was loaded onto an SU-75 Checkmate and flew across the Atlantic and sank 5 Nimitz class carriers, every Ohio Class boomer and half the USN's attack subs. The SU-75 was also piloted by George Santos; excuse me, I forgot to use his real name, Kitara.
@AbruptandOffensive
Жыл бұрын
Seems legit
@leprechaunbutreallyjustamidget
Жыл бұрын
Man at least Boris Johnson managed to get away in his f35
@jamess3241
Жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha masterfully written comment there, good one
@richardthomas598
Жыл бұрын
💯
@MischeifMakerz
Жыл бұрын
Yes, the russians managed to upgrade the KinZhal to the point it can reach relativistic speeds now. It accelerated to 199.99% the speed of light after destroying the bunker and the fighter jets, resulting in time moving backwards to maintain the stability of the fabric of space-time. When the missile slowed down to just 10% the speed of light, it smashed into all the B-21’s using just the kinetic energy to destroy them, since the warhead was used up in the future (before the time-travel). Pentagon is shaking right now.
Not is that story only true, but you also failed to mention that the Kinzahl missile continued on through the bunker into the earth's core restarting the rotation of the core and heading out the same way it came taking out not one, but three Ukranian outhouses before it continued on, into space, destroying an asteroid heading for earth, saving us all from certain doom. How come you failed to mention that? And also, those outhouses where each containing 400 F-35's, 200 Nato spies, 300 M1 Abrams, and one goat Named Billy.
@alexisjuillard4816
Жыл бұрын
And you failed to mention that asteroid it destroyed was a weaponized rock tje size of jupiter the ukrainians were planning to destroy the earth with so that wouldn't loose their war. Russia saved humanity AGAIN, if anything this was a philanthropic humanitarian missile strike. Whats that word again, oxymoron? Ney just moron lol
@NtDs90
Жыл бұрын
They killed Billy! Dam Russian bastards! This means WAR!!!
@HCao
Жыл бұрын
Wrong. Russians do not murder goats. They save them for wives
@NicolasTheondine
Жыл бұрын
Nope, the goat was named Piggy.
@StaticImage
Жыл бұрын
You had me going with the first few words. 7/10, would rage again.
A bunker so secret that both NATO and Ukraine were unaware of it's existence! Cairns News looks hilarious. Thanks Alex.
@edwardfletcher7790
Жыл бұрын
Cairns News needs to be looked at by the ASD !! Someone is getting paid in rubles ! 👹
@WontSeeReplies
11 ай бұрын
Search Judging Freedom. This is a propaganda outlet and honest US military intelligence officers will tell you the same.
Among the casualties: 10 US generals, 100 F-22 Raptors, 1000 M1 Abrams, the USS Gerald R Ford and Joe Biden himself. Truly a great victory for glorious Russia.
@roguestorm7rooper451
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@StaticImage
Жыл бұрын
Good thing George Santos was there to whisk the survivors away to Poland with his fleet of armored Lamborghinis.
@ChrisZukowski88
Жыл бұрын
Sneaky Americans hiding an aircraft carrier underground!
@joeybaby1999
Жыл бұрын
I think your estimates are low. all aircraft carriers were destroyed as well, I hear. lmao
@UnCannyValley67
Жыл бұрын
I heard hey even got DB Cooper.
Thanks for calling out russian BS.
@2639theboss
Жыл бұрын
Speak for yourself. I personally am desperate to find this gynaecologist who doubles as an intelligence analyst. Sounds like a keeper to me.
@steveofthewildnorth7493
Жыл бұрын
@@2639theboss LOL! Very good. :-)
@frenstcht
Жыл бұрын
@@2639theboss I, on the other hand, am looking for a proctologist who can commune with the lost spirits of Atlantis. It's the only way to explain this hemorrhoid.
Dam so Russia was able to find a nato bunker 80+ meters deep. Scramble plans to blow it up with a " Hypersonic " missile, then dug down to tally what contry there all from . All in 12 hours or so? Totally sounds legitimate
@Frozander
Жыл бұрын
Yep they destroyed it then walked all the way to Kyiv (while still not being able to go past bahkmut) dug and found bodies there
@sublime4212
Жыл бұрын
@@Frozander crafty little bastard
@utrock5067
Жыл бұрын
Plus killing approx. 300 high rank military NATO personel in the way, that none of countries knew that happened.
@Gilfilosofia
Жыл бұрын
And NATO managed to silence 300 families about their loved ones going MIA for over a month.
@gerritvalkering1068
Жыл бұрын
It's also very impressive that they went to recover the bodies so deep in enemy territory. I'm telling you, the front lines they show on the news are fake, the war is already over. ... Okay, that may have been a bit too much and too close to actual disinformation going around
I had a good laugh the first time i seen this a month or two ago 😂😂😂
@benjaminjohnsonboston
Жыл бұрын
Because is true Russia is hitting you guys hard
@0816M3RC
Жыл бұрын
@@benjaminjohnsonboston bot identified.
Of course! Just like they destroyed 130 HIMARS, 5 Leopards, and depleted uranium ammo is a nuclear weapon. Pfft
funny, for a strike that eliminated an entire section of air control defense space, the airspace seems to not have changed very much in terms of control lol
@randomdude2832
Жыл бұрын
the air space is changing, russia is using their air force more and more over the las couple of months, I doubt the degradation of ukranian air defense is over one single attack tho.
@sumduma55
Жыл бұрын
It's not hard to reimpliment air defenses. Any degradation wouldn't last much longer than the attack. They expect them to be destroyed and fixed.
@4dbullshitpatroll6
Жыл бұрын
They don't attack Russian territory anymore. That was the message the Kinzhals sent.
@CptJistuce
Жыл бұрын
@@4dbullshitpatroll6 So what will it take to get the russians to stop attacking ukranian territory?
@enpakeksi765
Жыл бұрын
@@4dbullshitpatroll6 Who is they, and who hit Belgorod recently with an UAV?
These Russian trolls are doing too much. 😂
@randomuser5443
Жыл бұрын
There was one going nuts over the fact he has a tik tok and then covers his russian ass with anti trump/american right dribble
@utrock5067
Жыл бұрын
They even tried to convince that Ukraine was using A-10s. Secretly that is.
@benjaminjohnsonboston
Жыл бұрын
You are hurt. Slava Russia 🇷🇺
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
Жыл бұрын
@@utrock5067 that would be pretty awesome if they were!
@greymangaming1877
Жыл бұрын
@@benjaminjohnsonbostonI see a troll now. Look quickly guys!
Unsurpringly MacGregor & Ritter we're busy at work embarrassing themselves with this tall tale, thank you for the fact checking.
@mememachine2013
Жыл бұрын
Those 2 are complete bums. I listen to them when I need a chuckle lol
It must be really embarrassing to be a Russian these days!
Thank you for debunking this ridiculous propaganda.
About as believable as the accents those "intercepted American troops" had.
Perun just did a fantastic video a few weeks ago discussing Russia’s disinformation campaign and how it works
@richardthomas598
Жыл бұрын
Yup. And just like there, the Russians are busy trolling. And getting downvoted into the basement 🤣
@joeybaby1999
Жыл бұрын
Sadly it works with cooperation from some in western media, that still refuse to believe how awful Russian military really is. lmao
@wedgeantilles8575
Жыл бұрын
In general I HIGHLY recommend everybody to watch Peruns videos if you are interested in stuff like logistics and if you manage to invest 1 hour on a certain topic. He is horrible if you seek a fast thrill, if you want a short narrative "x is winning, x is destroying the enemy". But if you REALLY want to learn something about a specific topic, Peruns 1+ hour powerpoint presentations are incredible. And I love his humor so much - he sprinkles just the perfect amount of humor into his presentations, that I always get a good laugh. A 100% serious, fact based presentations - lightened up by perfect humor. Seriously guys, try his channel, I am sure you won't be disappointed.
@amazin7006
Жыл бұрын
It's a great video, but even that video doesn't cover even a fraction of Russia's history of disinformation. For example the way they manipulated the Belarus elections, where they would act ually broadcast disinformation supporting both sides. The way they broadcast into Eastern Ukraine and Georgia, and and even before that during the Soviet Union when they would fill Afghan radio airwaves with Soviet propaganda and just lie about the war constantly. Most countries are just discovering how to manipulate populations, Russia has over 100 years of experience and a whole system already set up.
@NeostormXLMAX
Жыл бұрын
Perun is literally an australian gamer with no prior military knowledge lmao, do more research on him or just look at his old videos, he literally reads wikipedia articles in his videos
The levels of Copium are of the charts. You think they OD over this level, but apparently, they just keep making strong and strong cope. Thank you Alex and Sandboxx team. This was a pretty fun one.
@aliyadavid2072
Жыл бұрын
It was a Greek NATO newspaper that reported this news first, not the Russians
@cadennorris960
Жыл бұрын
@@aliyadavid2072 What’s a “NATO newspaper”?
@jimmyw7530
Жыл бұрын
To be fair, they have been told their whole life that the Russian military are all super soldiers and that they’re fighting on the side of the greater good. So the copium, is just easing the journey through the denial stage of grieving.
@0816M3RC
Жыл бұрын
@@aliyadavid2072 Russian bot identified.
@enpakeksi765
Жыл бұрын
@@swarmpope9608 Evreything in NATO has a NATO prefix. Like, NATO citizens might NATO travel with their NATO car to their NATO cottage in the middle of the NATO nature, where they can NATO swim in the adjacent NATO waters and NATO invite their NATO friends and their NATO kids for a pleasant NATO BBQ to NATO feast on NATO food.
A real joke but the Russian public will buy it.
To be fair, conducting a study concluding that vegans are dumb is definitely an Australian thing to do.
@Rockstone1969
Жыл бұрын
Vegans may not be dumb, but Iron deficiency sounds about right. Though I think they have pills for that, it does seem to me that just eating meat is easier... and the more normal thing to do.
@JamesPhieffer
Жыл бұрын
You don't need a study to demonstrate that... #MeLoveMeat
You reading Gordon Duffs quote was actually hillarious.
NATO/OTAN does not require a Bunker in Ukraine. They have airborne command centers, AWACS, and ISR assets flying rings around that entire region. Let alone Cell and SAT Phones. The age of needing a “secret command post” is more or less past.
@khiem1939
Жыл бұрын
Putin has one, somewhere between Russia and China in the CENTER of Planet Earth!
@JustinStLouis-xz7ut
Жыл бұрын
Nothing is flying in Ukraine! Russian Mig-31 Foxhounds have shutdown Ukrainian airspace from well within Russian airspace.
@danube466
8 ай бұрын
Why do Barbarians use a Greek word OTAN means whenever ...meaning it will never
NATO used bombs to destroy 40 generals on moon i know this because joe told me so
Really appreciate this one. I have seen this story on Redacted so many times it is getting nauseating.
@alwayscurious3357
Жыл бұрын
I wonder if that Clayton Morris guy from Redacted is funded by an adversary nation... _Maybe something for the alphabet boys to looks into?_
I am not aware of Kinsel having ground penetration capabilities. Especially that deep.
@bonedoc4556
Жыл бұрын
The pictures corroborate that. I doubt they could make 100ft in dirt.
@normanmadden
Жыл бұрын
This information comes straight from the gynecologist expert.......
@williamzk9083
Жыл бұрын
The penetration capabilities seem realistic when the German and US WW2 rocket bombs "Disney Bomb", the PC 1800 RS and CBU-28
@leprechaunbutreallyjustamidget
Жыл бұрын
@@williamzk9083 hbu 28s can't penetrate even close to 80-130 meters and they're purpose build
@williamzk9083
Жыл бұрын
@@leprechaunbutreallyjustamidget Kinzahl, which is a 4200kg missile) can reach Mach 9 (that's 2700 meters/second). It would probably be operating at about 1/3rd of its maximum range and hit just after burn out. This is serious kinetic energy for a 500kg warhead.
Alex, this was a great video. Keep doing these!
The approach was not easy. They were required to maneuver straight down a trench and skim the surface to the target. The target area is only two meters wide. It's a small thermal exhaust port, right below the main port. The shaft leads directly to the reactor system. The precise hit started a chain reaction that destroyed the bunker. It was no bigger than a Womp rat.
@The_ZeroLine
Жыл бұрын
2 meters? That’s possible. I used to bulls eye womp rats with my T16 and they’re less than two meters.
@benboxingsense
Жыл бұрын
Maverick Top Gun😅
@chitaegandalalake263
11 ай бұрын
@@The_ZeroLine . Kinzhal has a 0.5 meter accuracy.
@The_ZeroLine
11 ай бұрын
@@chitaegandalalake263 Maybe in bizarro world.
@RRKS_TF
6 ай бұрын
@@chitaegandalalake263*if it had access to GPS
Great information, thanks 👍🏻
Thanks for the quick handling. Well done as always. For the algorithm.
Another great video, many thanks!! I love the last punch "lord knows plenty of russian trolls will" 🤣
I heard from a 9 star Ukrainian Super General that the missile was doing mach 25 when it struck, the underground NATO base was actually 12 miles underground, and the President of the USA was inside where he was secretly directing the whole war from. Oh the missile was also launched from the Russian moon base. And something about lasers, too. Space lasers. Yeah. _Definitely_ a totally true story.
@bolobalaman
Жыл бұрын
Damn now that u said it, it's even more plausible. Russia also has a Death Star orbiting the dark side of the moon too lmao
@richardgrimbleby7853
6 ай бұрын
Hahahaha mint as fuck 🙈
When you need a disinformation campaign to convince people that your missiles can hit actual military targets.
The woozle strikes again
Keep up the good work.
I often wonder if putin actually has any idea of what's going on at the battlefield??..
@RazyrDiarmait
Жыл бұрын
I doubt he does.
@utrock5067
Жыл бұрын
Maybe not in details, but he at least must know he already failed.
@utrock5067
Жыл бұрын
Maybe not in details, but he at least must know he already failed.
LOL remember when Russia said there are NO Russian troops in Crimea? Pepperidge farm Remembers 😂
@bonedoc4556
Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah! I Memba!
Fantastic video Alex and very valid, hard hitting points made during the wrap up at the end.
Thank you for the work that went into getting this out so promptly
I am not very useful and have been an idiot. But I do know that the first casualty of war is the truth. When I saw the disinformation, I put it down to at most something Akin to the Doolittle raid on Tokyo. There was an air raid. There was an explosion.Little of military value was accomplished. My takeaway is that it's bad to live in a war zone.
@Rockstone1969
Жыл бұрын
In Russia, war is not needed to kill the truth.
@chaosXP3RT
Жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for you
Just to clear up, the gynaecologist they quote is also the head of the European commission - pretty weird (but perhaps related to some conspiracy theory) to leave that title out if the magazine. Also, and this probably does not come as a surprise - I couldn't find any source for that supposed quote.
@bart7695
Жыл бұрын
pretty weird that our analyst didn't pick up on who Ursula von der Leyen is, since her name was right behind the word gynaecologist.
WTG alex! Doing the important work! I always look forward to watching when you drop videos.
Well done. The disinformation from both Russia and China has kicked into high gear the past year. I hadn't heard of this one from Russia, but I did look into China intentionally starting and spreading the preposterous idea of the imminent collapse of the USD recently. The best way to counteract it is by being informed, and helping spread that awareness like you've done here.
@chanoleyva8584
Жыл бұрын
Well the west lies too so who knows what to believe
@jdw-616
Жыл бұрын
The dollar is collapsing the Saudis and OPEC are no longer accepting it for oil sales, they switched over to China and Russia. That was the only thing keeping America's dollar fantasy afloat.
Great video. Hard to believe people actually fall for such obvious nonsense.
Ahh, yes, the Khinzal, the "hypersonic" missile, that isn't actually capable of hypersonic speeds.
@jonathanpfeffer3716
Жыл бұрын
It probably is capable of hypersonic speeds. it’s just a TBM (Iskander base) strapped to an aircraft, not really a new or crazy thing, it’s been done before and various other countries have this or a comparable platform. TBMs generally go hypersonic during their terminal phase and the Khinzal will likely have a very similar flight profile to the Iskander TBM.
@lordcirrhosisofliver
Жыл бұрын
@@jonathanpfeffer3716 I find it funny how russia supporters pretend kinzal is so much more impressive then it is.
@jdw-616
Жыл бұрын
You can watch videos of it online all over, forms plasma around it from the speed, ionizing the air.
I had heard the story a couple times over the past week. I'm glad you took the time to set things straight. Please continue to do the same in the future with Russian disinformation attempts.
@GegeDxD
11 ай бұрын
disinformation? well, to be fair more reliable informations came from Russians, rather than ukrianians which has legitimate right to lie in this war. the thing is, what truth are you rdy to accept? Probably you won't like to accept anything which doesn't go in your benefits. like the story about 'damaged' patriot when it was literally destroyed and the lies about ukrainians downing 6 Kindzals, after they said how Russia has only 6 MIGs capable to carry Kindzals and we all saw 3 explosions in a period of 10 seconds. Then how they downed 6 Kindzals? Same manipulation happened when Ursula wrote a post about how many causalities ukraine has and deleting it after few minutes. Depends on which side you are, you'll accept or not the information. But that nuclear bunker was really destroyed by a Kindzal.
Thanks for shining the light on this topic.
Best mil news I know so far
Appreciate the quick and yet still thorough work, Alex! What a great listen haha. I will have to share this just as a general case study.
Hi Alex, I had not heard of this. Thank you for setting the record straight. Bots and usefull idiots. I love it. It occured to me that if it was true, I suspect there would be a very real chance Russia would no longer exist. It would be the worst mistake Puter could make, attacking Nato. No, it didn't happen giver red square is still standing. Thank you again, Be safe.
@jdw-616
Жыл бұрын
China and Russia are just waiting for the dollar to collapse then they will come for America.
Rock On 🤘 Samdboxx News.👍.
I really enjoy your reports, I thank you and you Greek bosses and your dedication. I’ll stay aboard and pass y’all on to my fellow Texans THANK YOU ALL!
Did Russia mistake it for a playground?
Great job on the research and delivery in such a short time. The color balance is great too. I wish you would fix the balance on your short videos
The missile screwed up and instead of hitting a toilet , it found a command center. Russia high command is not happy about it.
Excellent work . Thanks for your work.
If the russian military was as effective as the PR wing of the govt, we'd all be speaking russian 😂
It's the same as the bioweapons theory- why put sensitive, immobile NATO fixtures in Ukraine instead of a thousand kilometers away in the west of France or Britain, or behind layers of air defense in Italy or Germany? The reason being that it would defeat the propaganda point that Russia is fighting the entire West, which while the West is definitely opposing them, simply is not true.
They have some of the world's worst organized crime and the power struggle in Russia has already begun. Thank you and your father for your service God bless you.
Nice job Alexander, nice job.
The Kinsel is not a penetrating type missile. Bunker busting bombs are very heavy. There’s a video about how the US made their bunker busting bombs.
@4dbullshitpatroll6
Жыл бұрын
Read between the lines. 18:16 Why was a "primitive" Russian missile able to allegedly kill people in Lviv with advanced NATO anti-missile defenses? It WAS a Ukrainian anti-missile that tried to shoot down a Kinzhal and landed in a residential area duh. Anything flying at Mach 6 or more will leave a bigger hole than that just from inertia.
Saw these original comments weeks ago than I saw a interview on the television with a man saying the attack happaned I was laughing
Nice work! Despite not having a full script to work from, you delivered a clear, concise history of this bit of disinformation, as well as name dropping some conspiracy theorists I can now identify and avoid.
Outstanding analysis, Alex. Thanks !
Does anybody remember the secret NATO at Azovstal in Mariupol? 🤣
@Rigel_6
Жыл бұрын
"There's NATO in the waterpipes or sth" - some ruskie bot probably
@randomdude2832
Жыл бұрын
do you remember the evacuation of azovstal?
@haxney
Жыл бұрын
@@randomdude2832 definitely couldn't be Ukraine trying to evacuate their soldiers and civilians. No, the only reason Ukraine would do anything is to cover up the secret special forces cyber robot NATO super soldier mutant generals secretly hanging out in Mariupol for... some reason.
@randomdude2832
Жыл бұрын
@@haxney "definitely couldn't be Ukraine trying to evacuate their soldiers and civilians." was ukraine trying to evacuate those soldiers to siberia or another russian pow camp? because that's were those "evacuated" soldiers were going...
@ChucksSEADnDEAD
Жыл бұрын
@@randomdude2832 I don't even understand what you're getting at. Ukraine used an euphemism or surrender, who cares? Russia LIED about the NATO generals. Like you said, they'd be in a Russian POW camp.
Alex- this video was one of the best you've ever made. Why? Because you fought disinformation like it owed you money. Nobody cares about the pacing of the video clips or anything like that. What matters here is how much information you packed into this video. You could have had Popeye videos looping in the background and this still would have been one of the best you've ever made. Please keep doing this.
Good for you!!! Appreciate this video. I wish more people did this.
Love your videos and attention to details cutting through the disinformation that sadly, people believe. Thanks and keep it up. PS love your videos
Bunker buster bombs are made out of used up Howitzer barrels. They're incredibly heavy. I doubt the kinzhal missile has anywhere near the penetrating capability
@jeroenk3570
Жыл бұрын
I'm curious, is there any weapon that can penetrate 130 meter in the ground and destroy a bunker? On the footage of that civilian house that was hit, I couldn't even see a hole in the ground.
@bholdr----0
Жыл бұрын
No they are NOT made out of 'used howitzer barrels'... (But that is a common misconception... You probably got that idea from when, in the first gulf war, a FEW (less than a dozen) early penetrator bombs were made out of unused naval gun barrels in a rushed project at (I think) the watervilet arsenal. Since then they have been made from scratch using more appropriate metals and designs. I don't know why the 'howitzer' thing is still circulating, but I can see how it could make some kind of sense. Anyway, I'm not sure if that matters, but, there you go. Cheers.
@bholdr----0
Жыл бұрын
It depends on the type of ground (sand, soil, rock, concrete, steel) needs to be penetrated, and if the penetrator actually needs to go that deep to destroy the target.... See; 'Massive Ordinance Penetrator: which is supposed to be able to get close to that depth.... At several million per, it had better be able to, eh?
I have serious doubts khinzal can penetrate 100ft let alone 400 and reinforced concrete.
@ssebulondecalvin1126
Жыл бұрын
Do you have some doubts because you’re some scientist right
@ssebulondecalvin1126
Жыл бұрын
You’re some kind of physicist yeah it would go through all that if it’s gone Mach 10
@Just_A_Random_Desk
Жыл бұрын
@@ssebulondecalvin1126 doubts because not even the most advanced bunkerbusting bombs from the B-2 spirit can penetrate that.
@mmyz7
Жыл бұрын
@@ssebulondecalvin1126 It doesn't even go mach 10. How do I know? The same reason they have stray missiles hitting porta potties in the border of Poland. Their weapons were developed with corruption, just like their armored vehicle battalions and how they're missing half their components at the start of the war. This stuff predates the war in Ukraine by decades. Russia is really good at misinformation, and making you believe their military has so much more power than it actually does.
@angrydoggy9170
Жыл бұрын
@@ssebulondecalvin1126 No matter how fast something goes, if it doesn’t have the mass and the density it won’t penetrate anything. Shoot an egg at a concrete wall at Mach 10 and it won’t destroy that wall.
Thanks for digging into this.
Thanx Alex love your work 🤙🏻🇺🇸
Alex, I watched this on recommendation by Preston and am glad I found you. As a U.S. Army InfoOps member, I am very impressed with your extensive investigative work of diving down this rabbit hole! I had not seen anything about this story but you did a phenomenal job on explaining the framework of a disinfo campaign! I look forward to gorging myself on your previous and future research! ❤
@WontSeeReplies
11 ай бұрын
This is a propaganda outlet. Look up ‘Judging Freedom’ for actual honest western military intelligence.
Excellent video, thanks for the valiant fight in the space (one might even say battle space). Just for that you might get an honorary NAFO citation and medal😂
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
Жыл бұрын
Information warfare is still warfare, as is legal warfare, or ‘lawfare’.
Another great video sir 👍👍👍
Great video bro!
Inconsistencies in various versions of the same disinformation story (such as the bunker being 120m deep in some stories and 130m in others) could be an effort to fingerprint data so that its migration can be tracked. Either side could inject these kinds of changes at any stage of the rumor's progress and then monitor the worlds media and communications for the results. Changes could be in grammar, spelling, talking point inclusion and sequence, factual and so on. Mapping out the rumor migration patterns can then be used for all kinds of Intelligence purposes.
And I am the captain now too lol
Great video! Thanks for the deep dive. I've been seeing this bunker get deeper and deeper on twitter over the past month 😂
Video been up 1 hour and 200 comments. Wow. Incredible and important story. Thank you for doing this!
Love ypur work Alex. When I see the Sandbox News headed I automatically watch the video. Refreshing to watch a professional who I believe is well prepared, researched and honest. Thank you 👍
Alex, you are amazing. Helping us ordinary folks with limited time fend of the Russian trips like this. I am so bookmarking this video. Hope you make more content like this.
@The_ZeroLine
Жыл бұрын
This is the easy stuff. There are much more insidious disinformation campaigns actual experts are reporting on. Like how Russia often targets local, small scale, etc. publications for the elderly, US Vets, evangelical Christians, etc.
pretty sure the only thing destroyed by a Kinzhal was some random fields
@StaticImage
Жыл бұрын
At least 400 grains of wheat were liquidated during this strike.
Glory to the Warriors of Ukraine..SLAVA UKRAINI..💪..Stay strong Ukraine....🇺🇦🤝🇦🇺
The Kinzhal is not a deep penetration bunker-buster. It is a standard ballistic missile that, when launched from an aircraft can achieve hyper-sonic speed but the warhead is the same as a standard cruise missile. The technology to make a bunker-buster is much different.
@gaoxiaen1
Жыл бұрын
Is CLAIMED to reach hypersonic speed.
@jdw-616
Жыл бұрын
@@gaoxiaen1 you can find many videos online, plasma forms around it due to speed
@RandomRyan1911
11 ай бұрын
Exactly, saw some idiot saying a kinzhal destroyed a bunker 200m underground and killed all the NATO generals on another video. The kinzhal isn't a bunker buster and I'm not sure any bunker buster could reach that far. 120 or 130 meters is still a lot, by the time something got so far it wouldn't be moving fast enough to destroy much. Dumbasses will believe anything
Glad you did this story. Really important to dissect stories like this in depth. Unfortunately most media does not take the time to really tear apart stories like this, instead relying on clickbait stories that do not peel back the layers so precisely as needed. Thank you Alex.
Great analysis.
Call Excellent journalist!!!
That NATO bunker was used by a squad of Spartan II super soldiers with their "MJOLNIR" powered armor. According to Dr. Catherine Elizabeth Halsey, it was just fortunate that Master Chief John-117 and his squad were deployed somehwere in the Zaporizhzhia Oblast when the attack happened.
@Boycott_Wendys
Жыл бұрын
The Duran gives accurate information
An extremely well narrated, edited and accompanied by an in-depth researched set of facts. You Sir are a true investigative reporter. You've done something that mainstream reporters used to do before they became lazy and overwhelming political. Well done 🍻
Great work as always Alex.
Good work.
Could the Kinzhal even be used as a bunker buster?
@TraditionalAnglican
Жыл бұрын
The Kinzhal can if it could actually hit the bunker - 80 meters (what’s actually claimed for the missile). Hitting the ground at Mach 12 is extremely unlikely as it would probably melt or explode prior to impact, but impact at Mach 4 - 6 is more realistic.
@ChucksSEADnDEAD
Жыл бұрын
@@TraditionalAnglican however when the US had to make a bunker buster for Iraq, they had to make a penetrating case made of a special alloy that was formulated for the air force, an offshoot of maraging steel. If the weapon does not have a thick penetrating case to survive the impact, the warhead will be crushed and detonated too early.
@OraC6666
Жыл бұрын
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD Right, this is what I was thinking.
Great job getting this disinformation set aside promptly!
Thanks, some common sense thrown into the mix is always helpful.
Slava Ukraini 💙💛
Besides all the apparent BS: How on earth should a Kinzhal have been able to destroy a bunker that is buried more than a hundred meters deep? I don't believe that would even be possible using a GBU-57 Massive Ordnance Penetrator - and that weighs in at a *massive* 14 tons (of which about 2.5 tons are the actual high explosive) Short of the optional nuclear warhead the Kinzhal could carry I just don't see how a missile with a total weight of 4.3 tons should accomplish this? 😉🤣🫣🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
@damien2198
Жыл бұрын
At that speed, a Kinzhal would have 5times the kinetic energy of a GBU-57 for penetration. Neat missile if any ;-)
@bjorngrewe1980
Жыл бұрын
@@damien2198 Regarding the kinetic energy: Granted! But how do you propose the missile should survive the impact with the ground at this speed and still penetrate *at least* 100 metres (much more if the trajectory on final descent doesn't point straight downwards)?
@damien2198
Жыл бұрын
@@bjorngrewe1980 not 100m but 100ft of no too hardened concrete why not, it would not be pleasant to be around. And we have absolutely nothing to stop them
@bjorngrewe1980
Жыл бұрын
@@damien2198 0:21 : *dozens of meters* 4:48 : *130 meters or more than 425 feet* 5:35 : Screenshot of website states *80 meters* 6:18 : *80 meters* 9:35 : *hundreds of feet* 10:05 : *130 meters* (screenshot of a website) 11:51 : *130 meters* 14:55 : Prawda (which translates to "truth" 😂😂😂) reduces it to *120 meters* 15:55 : *120 meters* (screenshot of a website) ....don't know if I missed a few!? I wasn't paying attention all to well 😉
@damien2198
Жыл бұрын
@@bjorngrewe1980 that's why I say 100ft (of soviet era concrete ) or this would not work. But it would be foolish to discount how amazing the Kherzal is, and we have nothing against it.
I kept hearing references to it, but immediately discounted it (boldly false on its face). Thanks for researching and letting us know how widely it was spreading.
Thank you, Alex! 🙂
Great video Alex! Crazy how widespread this narrative has become.
@j.johnson2792
Жыл бұрын
Good riddance to the traitor terrorists that are the us military
@j.johnson2792
Жыл бұрын
Talking to you bud
Could you pls do a video on the return of the F-117 and what possible reasons the military has them flying after they’ve been “retired”
@Joe-kb1sm
Жыл бұрын
This sounds like an interesting topic.
@StaticImage
Жыл бұрын
It's actually pretty simple- Red flag exercises and combat training. It's to simulate stealth platforms of peer or near-peer adversarial aircraft. The F-117 has a truly ridiculously low radar cross section, so it's a great platform to use, plus they were already just sitting there. Also, unofficially, it's because they look awesome flying around.
@StaticImage
Жыл бұрын
Hey, it looks like Alex saw this comment and made a video about it! Congrats!!!