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@superjuca55

Жыл бұрын

I suggest the Polikarpov I-180. It's history is even 'richer' than that of the PE-8. The evolution of the I-16 that could have been the best fighter the soviets would have had at the start of the war, the tragedies, the political sabotage... Maybe the greatest 'what if' fighter of WW2 together with the Heinkel HE-100 and Arsenal VG-33.

@alan-sk7ky

Жыл бұрын

Rex, Douglas DC5/R4D ;-)

@tonyisepik1203

Жыл бұрын

Such a perfect sponsor, love it

@john502

Жыл бұрын

Can you do a video about the me-264

@ashleysmith3106

Жыл бұрын

It's sad that the deaths of millions of men and women; many of those innocent bystanders; should be turned into a "Game" !!!

Actually, its most effective role was arguably revenge CAS

@ofcefcipu8954

Жыл бұрын

or bt5-cap-rush-kill-teammates-after CAS

@tacticalginger9623

Жыл бұрын

Ah, I see a man of culture

@fastestfail2645

Жыл бұрын

Literally just raged off the game because of a pe 8 revenge bombing loser 😂

@superworm1233

Жыл бұрын

Or team killing

@manofcultura

Жыл бұрын

@@superworm1233 you gotta break a few eggs to make a multi-kill omelette.

Not forgotten but despised in a certain military online combat game.

@MediumRareOpinions

Жыл бұрын

The name appearing on screen prompts the immediate response to remove it with extreme prejudice

@nickthompson9697

Жыл бұрын

5 tons of CAS coming your way, baby!

@Damian-03x3

Жыл бұрын

I've never played it but from what I've seen it's one of the most effective team killers in the game.

@iffracem

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, because it was intended as a long range strategic bomber, but WT has it as a precision close air support plane, something it would be impossible to do in reality. It's use in WT is ridiculous, but much of WT is unrealistic, and ridiculous

@RyllenKriel

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, War Thunder is fun but it is a very unbalanced and janky game. Some historically well performing vehicles are junk while other experimental or flawed designs have epic levels of performance. It's not too surprising the Russian made game takes craft like the Pe-8 and makes them far better than they really are.

The PE-8 isnt forgotten, it still terrorizes War Thunder players to this day

@joseSanchez-ej2oh

10 ай бұрын

I have it aced 😏

@andipuspita1537

Ай бұрын

The pe 8 bomb jumpscare is the worst nightmare to many tank players, especially when they play ground realistic battles.

>PE-8 >Forgotten >Shudders in War Thunder ground battles

One of my favorite activities in il2 was shooting these down when they were carrying the 5000 bomb, the explosion effect when they went down looked like a nuke

@stoneman8387

Жыл бұрын

The Pe-8 can take a lot of punishment, but the 5 tons of fireworks is very impressive.

@loveofmangos001

Жыл бұрын

Do people still play il-2? Lol Last time I played was in 2004/2005 back in middle school

@MegaPunisher777

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@BlackMasterRoshi

Жыл бұрын

@@loveofmangos001 there have been updates released and it looks pretty good now. the channel growling sidewinder alternates between that and DCS.

@stephenmeier4658

Жыл бұрын

Wheeeeee killin' is fun

It's commonly assumed that the B-24 factory was left running and no one managed to get it turned off before there was 18,000 airframes piled up outside.

@simoncullum5019

Жыл бұрын

At the end of the war they were flown straight from the production line to a site t be scrapped

@jollyjohnthepirate3168

Жыл бұрын

Consoladated was busy building the B 32 Dominator. They could never get the pressurization system to work but still managed to get them into action flying bombing missions just as the war ended.

@curtiswebb8135

Жыл бұрын

You rule.

@RANDALLBRIGGS

Жыл бұрын

@@simoncullum5019 Do you have a source for that?

@TheSlamburger

Жыл бұрын

I like to imagine everyone went to lunch and went “Wait, SHIT!”

TB-3: WW1 version of the Pe-8 Pe-8: WW2 version of the TB-3 _Now there's two of them_

@soapycactuses9281

Жыл бұрын

TB-7 was the future Pe-8. Before the War they were preparing a ginormous factory in Kazan but when germany invaded they switeched production mostly to the Pe/Il2/Yak/Lagg/La/Mig. They produced a very limited amount of the TB7/Pe8 and was mostly used by the ADD(Long Range Aviation) but mostly the ADD used american aircraft and some modenised DB-3(f) and later in the war a limited amount of the TU-2

@Blackburn6969

Жыл бұрын

No single aircraft could match the might of the TB series. Its effortless takeoff capacity, the ability to carry 2x light fighters under its wings! As well as a bomb payload! At the time also, machine guns weren't capable of any major damage to it, it was a literal flying tank

Seems to me that Soviet WW2 aircraft all have fascinating, "Development Hell" origin stories... thanks for this, I had a great half hour!

@zoompt-lm5xw

8 ай бұрын

The price for faillure was not the same in the west...

@vlexonkol8466

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, human safety was not one of those priority in soviet union

@markalex5136

Ай бұрын

Weren't there any purges in the USA? In some strange way, 7 million Americans disappeared from statistics from 1933 to 1941, do you know for what reason? But Americans know everything about the Gulag and the purges in the USSR. Take an interest in your history with the mass murders of its citizens by the authorities, you will be surprised that the USSR was more democratic than the West. By the way, take an interest in how the “Hunger March” of unemployed and unarmed veterans of the First World War with their families to Washington was organized in 1932. Regular troops and tanks were thrown against them. The dispersal of veterans was led by General D. MacArthur, Colonel D. Eisenhower and Major D. Patton. All three are the most famous personalities in history.

T'was said that for every single enemy vehicle taken out by it's bomb, 3 allied vehicles taken out by the same bomb of this aircraft

@harrisonrawlinson5650

Жыл бұрын

Just tag me next time

Rex- "The entire bomber program encountered a problem... Me- "Stalin" Rex- ..."The great purge" Me "yep"

@harbl99

Жыл бұрын

Stalin: "Why is new plane delay? ... Oh yes, the purges. ... Makes no difference. Work faster."

@scottsuttan2123

2 ай бұрын

there really never was a heavy bomber arm with USSR and Germany for that matter the doctrine was the Airforce was to supplement the army

Speaking of bombers. Would love to see some Soviet workhorses of the war: the Tupolev Tu-2 and Petlyakov Pe-2

@whiskeysk

Жыл бұрын

Exactly my thoughts after watching this!

Youre a real one for covering soviet aircraft that almost no other channels talk about

@jakekaywell5972

Жыл бұрын

@Rache Johnson Nah, they absolutely are.

Hi from Dundee, Scotland. The photo of the PE8 in Scotland, was taken about 5 miles from here at Tealing aerodrome. Some people still remember its visit! The aerodrome later became a farm. There are still remains of it.

@guaporeturns9472

6 ай бұрын

That’s cool

Absolutely love the new 3D animations. Pity about not being able to include more in this one, but look forward to more in future videos.

I certainly cannot say it is forgotton on ANY forum, but by all means it's role and use greatly over looked. Games like War Thunder may have popularised it's existance but the actual use and role are generally forgotton as there were bombers the Soviet Union had along side this that performed what most people would think roles the PE-8 filled. In reality the PE-8 for a short while was actually a quite impressive heavy long range bomber. Granted, the Soviets could be described by "Advanced for their time, outdated for their war." Fun fact: Much like the TB-3, for a short time the PE-8 also had a consideration of carrying I-16's under it's wings. Though I cannot find if this was actually ever done.

@WayneMoyer

Жыл бұрын

Okay now I have to go see if I can find anything on that. I didn't think the PE-8 was large enough for that but the Soviets would have done "Modifications" to make it work.

@John.McMillan

Жыл бұрын

@@WayneMoyer Exactly. I know that there was consideration for trying to make it capable of carrying one or two I-16's but I cant find anything thay says it was ever actually done or tested on the PE-8. I think it was just an experimental doctrine that fell through and was only used on the TB-3. Though the idea of using long range heavy bombers as motherships is certainly fascinating I think it was entirely scrapped woth the advent of escort aircraft like the PE-2 or simply giving bombers better guns.

Had no idea there'd been a radial Pe8. That could have been an excellent patrol bomber in the manner of the Liberator...and those late war and postwar test models are wild!

I've been dropping 5 ton bombs from a horribly managed Soviet heavyweight way before War Thunder and even KZread existed - in the original Il-2 series. The thing was only flyable through external cam though but I did some nice drops that other people didn't expect, was a great time :) - WT has taken over a lot of assets from that original Il-2 BTW which is why they have so many WW2 aircraft - especially the not so well known - in common.

@legoeasycompany

Жыл бұрын

When I first played WT right as it came out in 2013 it really surprised me to hear even the radio calls were the same from IL-2 Birds of Prey and the models too.

@dse763

Жыл бұрын

@@legoeasycompany Well, Il2 Birds of Pray is from Gaijin Entertainment, none less. However, don't know if Maddox Games gave the code of IL2 to Gaijin.

@reggiekoestoer1511

Жыл бұрын

I also initially thought WT was from the makers of IL-2

@legoeasycompany

Жыл бұрын

@@dse763 I mean the BT hangars and such seemed to be riped straight from Birds of Prey. I'm sure they did since they did a bunch of console stuff but then they got that bright idea

@linkfreeman1998

Жыл бұрын

Well have u tried the updated IL-2 1946? I think now it has cockpit for the Pe-8.

This is why I thoroughly enjoy your channel. Until today I didn't realize the soviets had any strategic bombers beyond the TB-3.

@jeebusk

Жыл бұрын

A potentially strategic bomber, actually used for tactical purposes.

Finally, a video about the war thunder vehicle of all time

Now, we need a video for Russia’s even more forgotten heavy bomber, the YER-2.

@martijn9568

Жыл бұрын

Not a heavy bomber but a long-range bomber to replace the TB-3/Il-4 if memory serves me right.

@user-bu8yv4fy5u

Жыл бұрын

@@martijn9568 Not TB-3, but DB-3 (Dalniy Bombardirovshchik), the first designation of Yer-2 was DB-240.

@martijn9568

Жыл бұрын

@Антон Г Shit, meant DB-3 indeed. Not sure how I managed to write TB-3 instead, as I'm familiar with both aircraft.😅

@soapycactuses9281

Жыл бұрын

Essentially that thing was very unreliable and they kept on putting it into production and then cancelling it because engines powerful enough for it were never fully "worked out" to be put into mass production. This is a fairly common theme with soviet plane engines through ww2.

Afak the FAB-5000 was the 3rd largest non- nuclear bomb of WWII, after the british Tallboy and Grand Slam.

@high-velocitymammal5030

3 ай бұрын

3rd would be the 12,000 lbs "super-cookie" surely? Or 3x 4,000 lbs "cookies" stuck together.

@jlvfr

3 ай бұрын

@@high-velocitymammal5030 I didn't mentioned them precisely because the supers were "frankenbomb", 2-3 strapped together.

I have a 1:72 recognition model of this big beast with the V12s. Curiously, it dates not from World War II but from the 1950s, so during the Cold War...by which time few if any Pe8s would have been operating as bombers.(Indeed, by then the Soviet heavy bomber, instead of being somewhat reminiscent of a contemporary Boeing design, was an outright facsimile of one: Tupolev's epic reverse engineering exercise, the Tu4 "Bull" clone of the B-29, which, Rex, would be another great subject.)

Interestingly the second prototype called the "Doubleur" was used operationally until the end of the war and was generally regarded as the most reliable of the bunch. Also the leading Pe-8 pilot was Estonian: Endel Puusepp who was awarded the Hero of the Soviet Union after flying Molotov to the US but continued flying operationally afterwards. I have an interesting book on the Pe-8 by an east german author. Apparently the USSR had recovered the wreckage of a Pe-8 that crashed on arctic service in the late 80s and planned to rebuilt the aircraft for museum display in Monino but that never happened.

I thought the internal engine was to drive the cabin pressurization as well. And they used the Klimov because they didn't need a full sized engine just to compress air. The Klimov was significantly smaller and lighter, you don't want to use more engine than you need.

Regarding British heavey bombers, everybody quotes Lancaster's but forget that over 6100 Halifax and 2300 Stirling's were also produced.

@owenshebbeare2999

7 ай бұрын

I suppose it is because the Lancaster carried the largest loads.

I am from Argentina and I am a lover of aviation and tanks but especially of the engineering they have behind, your videos help me to understand and learn many things about them and make me interested more and more in the engineering of these beasts, In short I love your videos please never stop making them, greetings from argentina ❤

@cedricliggins7528

8 ай бұрын

What happened to Argentina's air force? After the Falklands War (Malvinas) it hasn't been the same.

No way, the first historical use of the Boost Caboose, some 80 years before Roadkill tried it.

@justforever96

Жыл бұрын

It want even the first time they tried what , and no, it is not an original idea. Shit, the first jet engines were motorjets with the compressor driven by a V12 aero engine instead of a turbine, it is definitely not a new idea.

if you play warthunder, this plane is most certainly not forgotten. the scourge of all ground vehicles and the scorn of open tops

I've been missing the Zvezda Pe-8 ever since I sold it. Thanks for reopening that wound, mate. Nah, just kidding. Great video. The Pe-8 deserves far more respect it's garnered through time. Cheers.

Great video and a fair assessment. People in the West often either don't know about Pe-8 or throw mud at it. Meanwhile, it was a great design with a strong potential, but the main reason for its small numbers and other difficulties with components lies exactly in the character of the anticipated (and then the actual) war - when the resources are limited, the emphasis has to be made on producing the most crucial things, which at the time was the "front aviation", i.e. fighters, dive bombers and ground attack planes.

@tomt373

Жыл бұрын

It appears both Stalin and Hitler had a similar, if not the same mindset for their aviation industry. Competing nose-to-nose instead of getting into the broader picture of long-range strategic bombing. An example is Hitler's interference with the He-177 to force Heinkel into using two propellers only for four engines, hampering their development and making them problematic for reliability and maintenance, and hampering production.

@Tallorian

Жыл бұрын

@@tomt373 First, there was no such thing as "nose-to-nose" mindset of Stalin in terms of aviation. Russia pioneered large and/or long range planes (bombers) since WWI "Ilya Muromets" by Sikorsky, and this didn't change much with communists. Rex's channel already told the stories of the largest Soviet planes of 1920-30s. Furthermore, in 1937 an ANT-25 conducted a direct (i.e. without any intermediary landings) flight from Moscow to the mainland United States. So Stalin was never intentionally harming or forbidding works on large aviation and/or bombers; a lot of non-technical issues came not only from "paranoid machinations" (which is a wrong way to describe internal struggle within the communist party), but from the severe competition in the field too - for example Tupolev was not once accused of "sabotaging" by his peers and pilots for various bold (and sometimes dubious) decisions. And when the war started, in the situation when the enemy was moving with a fast pace, and the country was literally fighting for its survival, spending too much resources on those non-critical projects would be an impossible luxury. Besides, "strategic bombing" in WWII was not as efficient as some might think after listening to all the praises. It's known that Western bomber crews were often dropping bombs "somewhere in the vicinity" while not being able to identify their target. And when they were hitting the mark, more often than not the damage was not severe or crippling- usually Germans were resuming production/repairing the damage within a couple of days, if not hours. This is true until at least 1943 - when the fate of the war was already decided in the East. In fact, the most well-known "achievements" of Anglo-American strategic bombing aviation are the terror acts against civilians (napalm bombing of Dresden, Konigsberg, Tokyo etc., atomic bombing of Japan), that did not require precision.

@AKUJIVALDO

Жыл бұрын

@@tomt373 why bomb targets(factories, cities) behind enemy lines if you can capture them? And knowing that Soviets had over 20,000 tanks and over 21,000 warplanes and 5,000,000 soldiers when Germany preemptively attacked...

@klobiforpresident2254

Жыл бұрын

@@Tallorian I'll add that curious readers might wish to look at "Kelly's History"'s documentation of British strategic bombing in Germany.

@Tallorian

Жыл бұрын

@@klobiforpresident2254 Thank you for recommending that channel! I've never heard of it before, but after looking through a couple of videos I've found not only things I'd previously known from other sources, but a lot of deep research in archive documents. A truly tremendous work done by that guy! Such a shame his channel is so small and unknown to the public. And he did videos not only about the British bombing, but also an analysis of the facts behind the narrative story about the American precision bombing. In the context of this video about Pe-8, I doubt that after watching Kelly's research anyone would still be able in good faith suggest that the Soviet focus on attack planes and dive bombers for ground support instead of large high-altitude and long range bombers was a mistake move forced by a silly, shortsighted and incompetent dictator.

Great video, Rex! Your research into Soviet era aircraft is truly impressive. Still waiting for a video on the Short Stirling - my favourite WW2 Bomber 😊

@justforever96

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I love the underappreciated planes, and the Stirling just has great character. And I think a far worse reputation than it really deserves.

The one thing that War Thunder players all feared, the Pe-8 and it's 5,000 bomb.

@suthiraksb

Жыл бұрын

Players hate it because it's Soviet and Gaijin rarely nerf Soviet. High attitude + early spawn + big bomb. Too hard to counter. Players always leave the match after 1 bomb because it's useless to play against unfair match.

@loyalpiper

Жыл бұрын

@@suthiraksb just intercept the bomb.

Not forgotten, Warthunder players around the world remembers this aircraft most dearly.

I used the PE 8 with the FAB 5000 today. I got 5 kills! 👍 Good vid!

Anybody else noticed how hard it is to make sensible decisions when your boss is a paranoid psychopathic mass-murderer?

@jakekaywell5972

Жыл бұрын

Stalin was many things, but "psycopathic mass-murderer" wasn't one of them. Its also not paranoia if the danger was real, as evidenced by the Nazi plan to plant pro-Nazi paraphernalia in design bureau offices, with the expectation that those bureau chiefs would be reprised.

@Zond3r

Жыл бұрын

Chill, Dave, Stalin was an above-average decision maker

@generalhorse493

Жыл бұрын

@@Zond3r In solidifying power in Russia for himself yes, in war and research no. In fact when he realized he should let the generals general and believe the intelligence reports sent to him, things got a lot better for the Soviet military. (Hitler went the exact opposite direction)

@SovietBear91

Жыл бұрын

@@generalhorse493 chill The shietviet Union was beaten by Pepsi and McDonalds

@skeletonjanitor

Жыл бұрын

Chill, he’s literally a minor and neurodivergent

Thank you for another very informative video regarding the PE-8. I would be very interested in seeing a future video about the Petlyakov PE-2. I understand it was a high performance aircraft in it's day. (WWII) But it was also somewhat difficult to fly.

Im pretty sure every soviet main that uses Pe-8 for CAS in war thunder is watching this video

1936? That's pretty early for such an advanced design. And the cruise speed of 255 mph of later versions is faster than any allied bomber, if true. This is an impressive aircraft.

@allangibson8494

6 ай бұрын

The slightly later B-29 was significantly faster at 357 mph (but cruised at 220mph).

Fascinating, thanks. Growing up in 1970’s UK we had a volume of books, roughly one for each year of WW2, published just after the end of the conflict, they were photo and war artist based with descriptions to move the narrative along. On one page, the visit of Molotov to the UK was shown, with the diplomat/servant to Stalin’s whims, with the aircraft described as ‘the giant Soviet bomber which brought him here’, the Pe-8, not that this designation was used. Like many in the 1946 publication, the picture was poor quality/heavily retouched. The wonderful dark satirical comedy film, Death of Stalin, featured Commissar Kaganovich, played by Dermot Crowley and of course Molotov by the legendary Micheal Palin.

Always excited to see you've uploaded something Rex. Your work is appreciated and you are one of my favorites in our little corner of the internet.

As much as war thunder has hurt my soul over the last 9 years it has considerably expanded my military vehicle history knowledge so I am thankful for that

@kylemelder5118

Жыл бұрын

Funny thing is the Pe-8 in warthunder is wrong. Its labeled as an 85 engine, with specs slightly above that. With the 85 engine, it shouldn't have rear gunners. It also shouldn't be able to pull an immelman at 120mph without stalling, nor should it be able to pull 12g to do a reverse, or turn. Should be much more sluggish, and even more so with the rear gunners.

One major reason why Pe-8 couldn't be built in numbers was... *TORPEDO BOATS* . And i'm not even joking. Marshall Tukhachevsky (later "unfairly" executed during the purge) was so impressed by the UK raid on Krondshtadt harbour 18 aug 1919 that he assigned a lot of funds to development and major production of Sh-4 and G-5 classes of hydroplaning torpedo boats to... ambush enemy fleet when it comes very close to soviet ports. Sounds dumb already? *Tupolev* was the head designer of these boats. Not the best use of his time if you ask me. UK torpedo boats were made out of durable red wood, which wasn't available in USSR. Instead *duraluminium* was used to make them. UK torpedo boats had displacement of 4 tons. G-5 had 15 tons, which required significantly more powerful engines. Each G-5 torpedo boats was powered by *2 GAM-34 engines* (a version of the engine used in Pe-8) The boats were total garbage. They required a completely calm water to operate because any waves badly affected movement and torpedo use. In addition salt water is corrosive for duraluminium so the boats had to be stored ashore preferably in heated and well-vented hangars. And now, drumrolls... Despite all that 84 of Sh-4 and 333 of G-5 boats were built. That's 166 sets of engines for Pe-8 and hundreds of tons of precious duraluminium. These boats without a doubt torpedoed the whole soviet aviation both bombers and fighters for a decade.

The thing didnt fail. The problem was that there were things MORE IMPORTANT than heavy bombers.

@petergray7576

Жыл бұрын

It failed. They never developed a reliable engine for this aircraft, which explains the low production numbers. Unlike the Germans, the USSR was interested in long range strategic bombing, and a four engined bomber would have allowed them to bomb German railheads and supply depots in Poland and Western USSR. But the Soviet aviation industry was still underdeveloped in comparison to western countries, and this was especially evident in engine development and design.

@nashaigra8973

Жыл бұрын

@@petergray7576 The thing wasnt the best but still worked i dont think anything would make the production rates bigger since most of the resources were sent to strike and fighter aircraft. Allies could let themselves to produce a lot of bombers since they didnt rlly have ground battles. Soviets couldnt. especcially in the early years.

@jakekaywell5972

Жыл бұрын

@@petergray7576 Soviet military doctrine simply didn't need the Pe-8 in the numbers of its Western counterparts, as explained in the video. Thus, I wouldn't call it a failure. It just didn't fit the type of conflict that was the Great Patriotic War. Soviet industry had to focus primarily on fighters and tactical bombers. So not really a failure, just not produced in numbers enough to make a difference.

@soapycactuses9281

Жыл бұрын

@@petergray7576 Not the aviation industry when it comes to amount of planes produced but when it comes to engines the soviet industry was mostly relying on improved engines "Borrowed"(semi-stolen) American and French desighns which were acquire for pennies during the height of the depression.

@Klovaneer

2 ай бұрын

@@petergray7576 AM-35 used in Pe-8 was developed into AM-38 of which there would be FORTY THOUSAND built. *F* *O* *R* *T* *Y* *T* *H* *O* *U* *S* *A* *N* *D* Germans were very interested in long range bombers, to bomb the ural industry and even united states while soviets pumped out thousands of tactical bombers and ground attack planes (powered by these "unreliable" engines) instead.

Thanks for highlighting a relatively less known aircraft. You could do a series on such heavy bombers. A particular candidate would be the Nakajima G8N

Ok, now I realy want to see that promissed video on the PE-2. An interesting aircraft, the PE-8. I think I have come accross it once or twice before but never payed much attention to (my interst has so far been focussed more on land and naval warfare and less to aerial warfare, though the content of your channel clearly has the potential of broadening my horizon in this regard).

Love the super SECRET photo at 10:28. 😆 Great video... informative, humorous, and well researched.

Like the use of the models! I really appreciate the research and presentation of the videos! Keep up the excellent work and this channel will grow even more!

Zeppelin Staaken also had an additional engine in the fuselage....😁

“And then the great purge happened…” is a great description of Soviet military development during the 1930s in general.

@markalex5136

Ай бұрын

Weren't there any purges in the USA? In some strange way, 7 million Americans disappeared from statistics from 1933 to 1941, do you know for what reason? But Americans know everything about the Gulag and the purges in the USSR. Take an interest in your history with the mass murders of its citizens by the authorities, you will be surprised that the USSR was more democratic than the West. By the way, take an interest in how the “Hunger March” of unemployed and unarmed veterans of the First World War with their families to Washington was organized in 1932. Regular troops and tanks were thrown against them. The dispersal of veterans was led by General D. MacArthur, Colonel D. Eisenhower and Major D. Patton. All three are the most famous personalities in history.

Another fascinating breakdown! Love putting your videos on whilst i'm doing some modelling

This was fascinating! We alwsys look forward to seeing your videos, and are never disappointed.😊

Much awaited, much appreciated excellent insights as always. Thanks

Thanks for sharing this- very informative! It also reminded me that I have a model of this beast in my stash of unbuilt model kits!

It is Fact that the more rare it is irl, the more people use it in WT

Your videos are amazing! Literally have them on all day as I work. I can't even imagine all the work that goes into researching for this content. Thank you! Reminds me of the history channel.

Fantastic videos, I've watched 5 today! Keep up the good work.

Superb episode, can't wait for videos on the SB, Pe-2 and potentially Tu-2.

Thanks for making this video, you did an awesome job and this comes from someone who also got very interested and researched quite a lot about the TB-7/Pe-8 with its numerous variations. I feel like some information about this aircraft is still too difficult to find... There were variants apparently with 7 mounted guns or some of the ones that mounted a fifth engine at the front don't really get any more context than the obvious testbed thingy... By the way you sort of missed on the Pe-8 "T" variant, which was drafted up as a response to the B-29. This was also pretty interesting, when looking at the (theoretical) specs. But I suppose it isn't that much a major topic when it comes to the Pe-8.

Can I say that your graphics and production seem to have reached an amazing level of professionalism. Well done on that alone, never mind your well researched and interesting content too!

Excellent presentation!....Outstanding Graphics!!!

Thanks so much! A big want would be the Levanevsky story and the prewar giant Soviet designs.

Always fascinating. . Thank you for your video. . 👍👍

Very detailed video on the PE8, excellent.

Really given speech on heartful walkthrough of artistik. Build and architecture below star's are spread over every were

Rex! I’d love to see that XP-56 video! The Vultee and Curtis designs were very cool to learn about, and I’m keen to see the Black Bullet’s story.

I remember when my grandpa told me about the Pe-8. He was still in his spawn, in his brand new Tiger, when he saw the massive 4 engine monster fly right over his head, with the 5000kg bomb falling on him. All of his comrades died, except for himself, who had spawn protection. It still haunts him to this day.

Excellent production Rex 8⁠-⁠)

Hi Rex I just came across a brief article about the Foke Wolf FW189c. Never heard of it before and was wondering if you could do a video about this obscure beast. Keep up the great work and keep those fabulous videos coming. Thanks mate Rob T Newcastle, NSW.

Thank you Rex, as WW2 nerd of all things, I had no idea about this Soviet Aircraft, Please keep it coming!

The graphic presentations are a very nice touch!

Remember guys, CAS doesn’t count if it’s dropped from 6000ft. Therefore, I do not partake in revenge CAS

The 3D graphics are a fantastic addition. Great work Sir!

Another terrifically well researched and illustrated video. Thank you Rex, top video again!

Great imagery and mix of real and computer generated stuff, thank you!

Hearing these stories about the Great Purge always make me sad. People don't often comprehend how the Great Purge stifled development in pretty much every single facet of Soviet life. Science, historical research, engineering, leadership, morale, basic functions of industrial life, safety regulations, quality control, quantity of goods, education, and of course the party itself was crippled. The entire union was flipped over and told to try again. It's either miraculous that the military apparatus managed to even function in enough time or it goes to show how little of a chance the Germans had at taking over that even with the stars aligned in their favor they lost.

@merafirewing6591

8 ай бұрын

It also killed any chances of the Soviets of having a proper blue water Navy.

Very interesting. Thx for the Video

Very interesting. I did not know anything about this...! Thanks!

Ah yes the bringer of death if your a Warthunder player against the Soviets or with the Soviets the 5000kg bomb doesn't matter and doesn't care if friend or foe is in it's blast radius, once the bomb is drop your fate is sealed.

@RedXlV

Жыл бұрын

For some reason, other nations don't get their own giant bombs yet in War Thunder. Where's Britain's 4,000, 8,000, and 12,000 lb Blockbusters, along with 12,000 lb Tallboy and 22,000 lb Grand Slam? Where's America's 4,000 lb AN-M56, 10,000 lb pumpkin bomb (a conventional version of Fat Man), and 12,000 lb Tarzon (radio-guided Tallboy)?

@merafirewing6591

Жыл бұрын

@@RedXlV oh, if those enter into War Thunder. Oh it's going to be a bloodbath.

@zacharyprovance3128

Жыл бұрын

"Once Mr. FAB-5000 is dropped, it is no one's friend."

@RedXlV

Жыл бұрын

@@merafirewing6591 USSR wouldn't need to be left in the dust by in that arms race of mega-bombs either, since the Tu-16 and Tu-22 could be added with the FAB-9000 bomb. I say bring on all of the giant bombs and leg the carnage ensue.

@merafirewing6591

Жыл бұрын

@@RedXlV yeah, and see how many vehicles die to the megabombs wrath.

Looking forward to the PE2 presentation, it was after all a significant aircraft.

2:35 Looking at that undercarriage... The Soviets invented "steam-punk"!

14:35 I was literally playing wt while watching this and even previewed the pe8 really enjoy these vids

Excellent video. Really informative.

Love the new graphics Rex. Superb.

Not forgotten in IL-2 Sturmovik! One of the most beast aircraft! Only it could drop the FAB-5000! However, it does feel highly underpowered, as taking off is a real challenge at times. Never knew about the 5th engine in the fuselage, though!

Great video and research for this plane.

I find it striking how such a bureaucratically bloated machine as the Soviet Government, at the time, went on to build tanks and planes by the thousands in short order during WWII. The power of necessity, I guess.

Great stuff as ever sir

I don't know how you did those opening graphics but good on ya!

Whenever I think of what Congress did to the USofA's military readiness I will remember that they were only denying funding not imprisoning and executing the best and brightest design and production engineers.

Excellent video, well done.

Experimental SOVIET Bell X-1? now I'm interested!

THis was Great REX. THanKS!

It appears that the first really successful Soviet heavy bomber was the Tu-4, an unlicensed, reverse-engineered copy of a B-29 Superfortress that had landed in Siberia after being damaged in a bombong raid on Japan.

@jameshall1300

Жыл бұрын

Supposedly it was such an exact copy of that frame that they even copied an unneeded hole that an assembler mistakenly drilled in a piece of the framing. I can't remember where I heard this, but it stuck with me.

@rizalardiansyah4486

Жыл бұрын

@@jameshall1300 It was said in a forum I forgot that even the rudder pedals of the Tu-4 has the Boeing logo...

@eyo8766

Жыл бұрын

"No no no Mr. John, this definitely isn't an exact copy of your bomber. This one clearly has cannons instead of your 50 cals"

@tobiasfreitag2182

Жыл бұрын

@@rizalardiansyah4486 as far as I read that was kind of tupolev giving Stalin the finger. Tupolev had some ideas how to improve the b-29 when copying here. So he went to Stalin for approval of these changes but Stalin insisted on a exact copy. So tupulev went and made a exact copy.... including all boeing logos

@merafirewing6591

8 ай бұрын

​@@tobiasfreitag2182 lel.

Always interesting, Rex, thanks.

In the early versions of Il-2 Sturmovik played on the Hyperlobby online gaming service, you could hack this aircraft into being flyable in third-person view only. Was always fun to sneak a FAB-5000 5000Kg (11,000 lb.) bomb onto the enemy airfield!

at last someone makes a video about the PE 8

Very nice and intresting Video!

Less than 100 built with no particular 'battle honours'. To put this in perspective it was outclassed in all parameters by the Short Stirling, regarded as the least advanced of the RAF Heavies, with 2,371 manufactured . The HP Halifax, not mentioned as a comparator with the others by rex had 6,170 manufactured. Both served in all Europan and North African theatres.

@kaletovhangar

Жыл бұрын

Considering all the circumstances of USSR and artificially boosted difficulties Soviet leadership inflicted upon their own engineers and scientists,it's actually quite impressive design in it's own right.In some weird way,it reminds me of Tu-95 (which looks like somebody merged Pe-8 with Tu-4).

@kittyhawk9707

Жыл бұрын

Yes but this was planned and designed well before the Stirling etc .. Hell .. these were flying while we still relied on Wellingtons and Whitleys .. It is like saying the B29 outclassed the Lancaster .. look at the timeframe between the two planes ..

@The_Modeling_Underdog

Жыл бұрын

@@kittyhawk9707 Most people lack context. Agreed. On the other hand, they are contemporary designs. First fllight in 1936 for the 8 and 1939 for the Stirling. Which may come as a shock to most. God only knows what the Soviets could have achieved had it not been for the Great Purge throwing back the development of the 8 for two years. And even though the Stirling could fly circuits around the Pe-8 at low altitude, it lacked the ability to reach high altitudes and a decent cruise speed. Both were delightful flyers, the Stirling being a bit tricky during take off and landing. That being said, you make do with what you have. And neither the RAF nor the VVS had much for some veritable long range bombing during 1941-42. They were hitting fields and the wrong cities in almost every single sortie during that period. Cheers.

@uingaeoc3905

Жыл бұрын

@@kittyhawk9707 The point is the PE8 may have had an initial flight earlier than the Stirling but nothing came of it and it was the ONLY 4 engine heavy the VVS had and it was kept in service and underpowered for the entire war. The Stirling was a success and replaced by Halifaxs and Lancasters, the PE8 was not. You are aware that the Wellington was the most produced UK bomber and that it was used in all theatres and gave excellent service throughout the war. The Wellington outclassed the PE8 in all practical metrics, not the. fantasy tats of the PE bureaux.

@uingaeoc3905

Жыл бұрын

@@The_Modeling_Underdog There was no accrate bombers in WW2, the Nordern Sight was useless.

Was above quota small arms ammunition used in the development of the Objeck?