Would love to see The Cult pinball one day

@krisschedler

Жыл бұрын

Blue Oyster Cult even better, their history coincide nicely with pinballs 1970’s peak, and their lyrics are very sci fi.. But I love the Cult too

Need more reviews. I’d also like to see reviews of older games. I personally have a soft spot for system 11 games..

Not only is Rush one of the greatest bands of all time, but this is hands down one of the greatest pins of all time.

@SDTM

Жыл бұрын

Many agree with you

@adamstar7516

Жыл бұрын

But iron maiden beats it on both counts. Bigger band. Better machine.

@CasperInkyMagoo

Жыл бұрын

it's X-Men with an LOTR ring ramp in the middle. It's as close to a reskin as it gets.

@sadboi7537

Жыл бұрын

@@adamstar7516 Bigger band? Yea, but who cares? Rush has sold over 40M albums are very well known. Better Pin? Not really. Rush’s code and wizard modes completely destroy Maiden’s wizard modes based upon ingenuity, creativeness and uniqueness. Be my guest though to keep believing Maiden is superior. 😂

@sadboi7537

Жыл бұрын

@@CasperInkyMagoo And?? That’s a pretty good mashup of two amazing game features. At least it’s not Munsters, or some other god awful machine.

Haven’t even watched the video but I’m expecting a whole lot of As. This is a culmination of all the things Borg has done right.. a true virtuoso! Current score on location is 7.5B and almost completed 2112- I’ve played it a good bit

Rush Premium is still hanging out at #1 for me after a year of owning it. It’s mostly due to the excellent code and layout, even though I’m a Rush fan and I enjoy all the music in the game too. I can’t argue too much with your take on the caricatures in the middle of the playfield, but it’s certainly not the debacle that AC/DC Pro was. I didn’t give it much thought until I had FF sitting next to it; Zombie Yeti’s work here is clearly better. I think this game will age well, like TWD did. Rush is Borg’s best so far.

@SDTM

Жыл бұрын

Great take!

@sadboi7537

Жыл бұрын

TWD is still an amazing pin with an excellent rule set.

I was never a fan of either Iron Maiden or RUSH but after owning both I totally dig em.

I’ve have a GnR 1994 by Data East that I inherited from my Old Man back in 2016. I always enjoyed playing it but never took it too seriously. Then, my wife and I challenged each other for high scores on it. After that, we downloaded Pinball FX for the Switch. Now, we’re both becoming quickly obsessed with pinball as a whole. I hope this isn’t just another rabbit hole obsession that only sparks my interest for a few months and leaves my bank account drained.

Great having you guys back for a review! Fair scores on this one. Greg is right on the rules. Once you have it at home and learn them they are truly amazing!

@SDTM

Жыл бұрын

Right on! Thanks Nick

This pin was legendary for me...a bit of a disappointment on the problems out of the box. The scoop. Inner loop needing help. Node boards. Yada yada...but it'd rush. The GOAT. Hands down beautiful cab.

Definitely team Greg on this one, love my Rush but if I didn’t enjoy the music it would definitely lower my opinion of it. On theme I think the bands involvement is a huge plus (since there was no other story like IMDN or FF). Haven’t played it a lot since FF arrived but when I do the music is much better 😀

Just got a Rush Pro and it is a fantastic shooter

Lizzo over RUSH!?! What is wrong with these guys?

@SDTM

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha I was being dramatic

Only a year and a half behind. Love this pin. It helps that I’m a massive Rush fan. Stern dropped the ball with the scoop, the node 10 board and not putting out expression lights in a timely manner. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ This is an absolutely FANTASTIC pin. You’re really not getting it with this pin.

@sadboi7537

Жыл бұрын

Agree 100%. Also a 30 yr long Rush fan and this pin hit almost every note I could’ve dreamed of. RIP Neil.

@moobutt

Жыл бұрын

@@sadboi7537 - I just wish I could swap a few songs.

Rush is awesome. fun game. Wasn't a fan of the band, but starting to like their music. The shots are smooth once dialed in... I truly believe the pin is underrated. Expression lights make the game even better. 8 inch sub inside and a 10 inch external with pinsound speakers. Shakers, sounds really good and feels great, and love the call outs.

@SDTM

Жыл бұрын

I love how music pins can do that. For me, it was Metallica (Zach)

Premium so much better than pro. Definitely can see what they say when they say premium is what the designer intended!

@moobutt

Жыл бұрын

Nope. I had a Premium. Sold it. Have a Pro now. No node 10 issues to worry about and it plays quicker.

@flofixer1

Жыл бұрын

I agree that the premium is better (and so do Greg and Zach) That dead end shot is crap and the node 10 issues appear to have been resolved with the ramp motor/wiring replacement. It plays quicker seems like a weak argument for the pro

@moobutt

Жыл бұрын

@@flofixer1 - The only thing weak in here is your sorry ass uninformed comment. You clearly don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. 🤦‍♂️ I have a ramp in place of the dead end shot, which wasn’t bad in the first place AND I never said it was better. I have a clock that doesn’t run off of node 10. Most importantly, I have no worries of node 10 issues. You clearly haven’t been in the Pinside forums on the node 10 board issues page. They’re FAR from being solved in Rush and Godzilla is now having node 10 issues.

When are you going to do a Foo Fighter review?

@SDTM

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully within the next couple reviews

When’s the Rush topper review?

@SDTM

Жыл бұрын

I haven’t even seen one in person yet.

I’m just glad to see a new review of an actual pinball machine. Zach we just had a mother load of new pins come out, plenty of more machines to review or new additions to this or that ect. Keep the actual pinball content coming

I did love the way this shoots

Do you's guys got 2 small beds or 1 big one?

@SDTM

Жыл бұрын

Two twin beds typically, but also a King size for when your mom begs to come over. :)

following you guys for a while love the review vids, hoping we can get more of them, im waiting 007 and ff

Appreciate and enjoyed your review guys! Rush has been my favorite band since high school in the mid/late 1980s. I've been a huge pinball fan for many years as well (1st pin purchased was Black Knight 2000 in 1998). Theme is extremely important to me when it comes to pinball. As a result, many of the "popular" games today don't mean much to me because the theme doesn't mean much to me (e.g. Deadpool, Stranger Things, etc). Love or hate the music, Rush is AMAZING - arguably the most talented group of 3 musicians ever assembled. There's the conundrum. I was actually concerned when I heard Stern was making a Rush pin. Mostly because I don't like the new pins as well (I love WPC95 and System 11 games the best) and most of what I see is people complaining about the poor build quality and reliability of Sterns and other new pins. If my favorite band was going to be a pin, I wanted it to be as awesome as the band. I even posted as much on the Stern Enthusiasts Facebook page when the game was announced. I purchased a NIB Rush premium in Oct 2022 and have to say I think it's one of the best new Sterns out there. Yes, I'm biased because I love the theme, but I also think it's a great game. The code is really good - not half-baked like many others that have been released (e.g. Bond). The shots are great, too. It's a great game for seasoned players and beginners. As my first new Stern, I can confirm they just don't make 'em like they used to as I've had a few minor, but annoying issues I wouldn't expect on a brand new pin. My 30-40 year old System 11 and WPC 95 games require less maintenance and adjustments than this one that is scarcely 18 months old. Overall, I think that Rush is a very solid pin that will age very well.

@SDTM

Жыл бұрын

Nicely done. Appreciate you coming by!

Journey pinball machine, Yes, I would probably buy if they nailed it, back in 2015 they technically did a re-theme of the classic Bally pinball machine Elektra that they turned into a Journey Pinball? I wonder why Journey never went to the next level as I believe this would gain a lot of attention. I also believe something is missing as we advance in next generation of pinball that would really take pinball to the next level.

@SDTM

Жыл бұрын

I could get behind a Journey pin for sure

@stevespringfield

Жыл бұрын

@@SDTM Me too!!!

I am a huge fan of Russia’s music. I’ve owned a Rush premium for nearlyvtwo years. I think it’s a great shooter. The game holds my interest for long sessions. I’m glad I purchased it. I also on a Guns N’ Roses LE. fun but I don’t enjoy it quite as much as Rush.

Man that outro! 🤣🤣🤣 The two of you together is just gold! I'm from Europe and as far as I know barely anyone knows Rush over there. But I discovered them after moving to the US and I really like them. Have several of their CDs (no Mini Disk though lol)

@SDTM

9 ай бұрын

MINI DISK!!!! MY ADOLESCENCE!!!

@Konuvis

9 ай бұрын

​@@SDTMmy early 20s 😅

Great review! Would love to hear your opinion on BKSoR. Very interested in that game, but can't really find a spot to play and the game seems to simple compared to other modern titles, especially the pro. Which seems odd...

@SDTM

Жыл бұрын

We hope to cover it in the future, but the short of it is that we prefer the Pro

Overall enjoyed the game a lot. It takes some ideas from Borg's previous games like GotG and heck, even the time machine is reminiscent of Austin Powers Pinball. But everything is refined and the game has a fun sense of speed. -- A.T.

"Indulge in a whirlwind of pinball ecstasy with Greg and Zach, the dynamic duo behind the sensational pinball sensation on KZread! Prepare to immerse yourself in the mesmerizing realm of flippers, bumpers, and silver balls as they embark on a quest to uncover the secrets, thrills, and sheer brilliance of the captivating pinball machines that define our gaming dreams. From the vintage treasures that evoke nostalgia to the cutting-edge marvels that push the boundaries of innovation, Greg and Zach leave no flipper unturned in their quest to bring you the most comprehensive and exhilarating pinball reviews. With their infectious enthusiasm, engaging banter, and unyielding passion for the silver ball, they'll take you on an unforgettable journey of exploration, unlocking the hidden depths and uncovering the shimmering gems of the pinball universe. Join them as they navigate the treacherous ramps, master the delicate nudges, and skillfully plunge into the heart-pounding action, all while aiming straight down the middle for maximum excitement and jaw-dropping gameplay. Get ready to embark on an odyssey of flippin' fun, where Greg and Zach are your trusted guides through the ever-evolving pinball landscape, igniting your imagination, and leaving you craving for more silver ball adventures!". Good job guys keep pinball alive and growing!

@SDTM

Жыл бұрын

We love you.

Thanks for another review! Good game but nothing special , Happy 4th ! Stay safe

@SDTM

Жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy and you too!

A Review of Doctor Who by you guys would be epic! Even if it gets a fucking d- or f from both of you :p

Good review. However avengers premium is a far superior game to rush. I feel you guys were a little harsh on it. Elwin for the win!

@SDTM

Жыл бұрын

I prefer avengers over Rush as well (Zach)

@charleswicks-stephens1753

Жыл бұрын

@@SDTM a year of owning avengers you really start to appreciate it. 👌

@shanesrandompinballunivers6180

Жыл бұрын

I’ve owned both for over a year and think both games are masterpieces. The thing that separates them for ME is that one has a lifetime of music I’ve loved and the other is based on a comic book I’ve never been into. Sadly with the movies of the same theme being complete garbage, it’s all I can attach it to and so the theme brings it down a notch. I do agree however, AIQ is one badass game that I have a good time on every single time I play it

Best two guys in pinball.

@SDTM

Жыл бұрын

You’re amazing! Thank you!

People who buy this pinball (like me) understand a lot more about why they made a lot of decisions on the subjective categories of your review (like art / rules / theme). If you are not a Rush fan, you simply wont understand even half the goofy call outs that the game has. If you dont understand the lyrics (and meaning which are unusually deep for rock music) of many of the songs then you wont get a lot of the general content of the pinball. If you have never been to a Rush concert, then you wont understand the toys and themes. I think this is why your review is really off the mark all around on these subjective topics, especially since Rush fans will actually see where you are missing it in this review. This pinball was designed to PERFECTLY (amazingly so) trigger Rush fans. I think the best you 2 can do is simply decide whether you just like playing the game, but thats also subjective. This review is a serious miss for you (I would simply say that you just dont get Rush). the best example is "well we wont be going to a Rush concert"... Rush as a band is over since the drummer Neal Peart died of brain cancer ~5 years ago. There wont be another concert. BUT... I like most your pinball reviews and will continue watching.

@SDTM

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate the info and yeah I guess we aren’t ready to be Rush fans yet. It surprising that Stern would choose such a theme for the masses if so much is required for understanding and eligible to enjoy such a pinball machine.

@balxen

Жыл бұрын

It’s not surprising in the least that Stern decided on this theme, because they like to make money! And also about production… I know it’s not in production now, and it’s not currently scheduled for production for the rest of this year….but that doesn’t mean they won’t make any more units! They’re making Iron Maiden now, and that came out 5-6 years ago and had been largely dormant production wise for the last few years.. Once the orders pile up they’ll make more. Might not be until next year sometime, but they’ll fire it up again.

@moobutt

Жыл бұрын

@@SDTM- There’s more of us Rush fans out there than you realize.

@Starman.2112

Жыл бұрын

@@SDTM Rush was and probably still is one of the most popular rock bands in the history of rock n' roll with a cult following still today. This pinball was designed and engineered perfectly for that player base. Its a niche project for them and dam, they smacked it out of the park. Im GenX and I've been listening and loving every rock band since 1980. Def Leppard is a close 2nd to Rush for me (ive seen them both in concert more then 10 times), but Leppard sings about pouring sugar on people. Rush Lyric are poetic with really deep meaning and thats the difference between Rush and mainstream rock (well besides the fact that the 3 of them are instrumental maestro's). This fact is perfectly woven into this pinball and I would guess that most people who bought this pinball are Rush fans first over pinball (I just happen to be both for over 40 years). As and example, I can honesty say I have time on every Stern pinball made and Rush as a fun pinball to me is only behind Godzilla... the other half of the Stern pinballs made over the past 10 years are just about unplayable compared to the pinballs in the 80's. I guess the point Im trying to make is that this pinball is a whole hell of a lot deeper then you may realize, in fact, amazingly so. But, I cant fault you since you aren't a Rush fan, you just dont know.

@SDTM

Жыл бұрын

@@balxenthey have no plans to build any in 2024. But I agree, never say never, but I don’t see it happening.

Who looked at that playfield artwork and said, “YES” a blind person 😂

I disagree with you that the code is why people bought the machine. Its the fans who love Rush they would buy it if it just played the music a little. Rush fans have the money now they are your civic leaders, your inventors and captains of industry. We can afford to pay for a wooden box with some lights and sounds. This is why it sells in Canada, you simply have to be into the band.

If Stern goes with rock- I’d like to see a Grateful Dead or RATM pin. If they go with Rap: Eminem or Wu-Tang Clan

Team Greg all the way! I get it Zach, Rush is not for everyone and it’s usually either you love them, or you hate them. I became a fan in 1980 and have been a diehard ever since. 1980 is also the year I became a musician and it was because of Rush I decided to take the drums and synth seriously. Something I haven’t read yet is that a huge reason why Rush has such a big fan base is that they are different and over the top incredible in every detail of their music while being the musicians band. Geddys voice is usually what turns some people off and I get that, but also consider he is playing the bass, singing, and killing the synth and foot synths(INSANE). Rush is for musicians, they have inspired so many of the bands that people will argue are better than Rush and then you hear an interview from that other group and they all say Rush was THEIR favorite band. Always giving their love, thanks and praise to the three guys from Canada for inspiring them. Their uniqueness and talent can never be overstated. Neil changed rock drumming forever and no band EVER had more air drummers in attendance. Alex is widely considered one of the best and most tasteful guitarists of all time, Geddy is CLEARLY one of the best and most influential bassist this planet has ever seen and his synth work and song writing is simply phenomenal and second to none. These guys are who other bands look up to and will always thank for pushing them to the next level, I know I do. This is why so many get very animated when others attack them, they are VERY special to us and to see a pinball machine made for them was really something to celebrate. I’ve been playing pinball as long as I have been playing the drums and THIS title was the first time I felt a game was made for me. Love AFM, love Godzilla, love JP, and so many others but Rush is a theme where the topic speaks to me personally and I know I’m not alone. So yeah, they are not for everyone and not everyone is a musician but those of us lucky enough to get what they are about, we give a special thanks to Stern and Borg for this game. My LE is cemented to the floor! Rock on!

@SDTM

Жыл бұрын

We love the passion!

Does someone want to break it to Greg and Zak than Iron Maiden has sold more than 70 million concert tickets and 100 million albums. They don’t need 1000 new fans lol. If you can’t appreciate IM as master musicians there is something wrong with your brain, seriously. Even rap artists and massively successful pop artists love iron maiden. You don’t have to like them, but they are masters of music. If you prefer to just hate them for no reason it just shows ignorance.

@SDTM

Жыл бұрын

No hate here. Greg said he really liked them.

Little late huh?

@SDTM

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s about time you showed up!

Lemme guess. B+. I've never disliked an entire HALF of a game. I loathe the entirety of the left side on Rush.

@SDTM

Жыл бұрын

Nope, no B+ this time :)

Band themes feels like phone-it-in projects where half the work is already done, no creativity needed. I'll turn on my stereo and play some EMs if I want to truly enjoy actual Rush (audio). You could reskin this game as "Nightmare Time Machine" with kooky call-outs and some Jerry original tracks and it'd be more memorable and less a vanity-laden tribute heap.

@moobutt

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your take Mr Positivity.

@yaggy9

Жыл бұрын

sure thing, guy who clearly bought a rush machine and intolerant of differing opinions enough to type a youtube reply.

@moobutt

Жыл бұрын

I’ve bought two of them by the way

Lizzo over Rush??? Unfollowing.

That's a horrid intro

@SDTM

Жыл бұрын

Huh?