Rupertus Pepperbox: A Sophisticated 8-Shot Rimfire Pocket Gun
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The Rupertus Patent Pistol Manufacturing Company was founded in Philadelphia by Bavarian-born Jacob Rupertus. The company made a variety of derringers, pepperboxes, and revolvers and today we are looking at an 8-shot, .22 rimfire pepperbox patented by Rupertus in 1864. It’s a tiny civilian pocket gun, and one that seems to be well made and cleverly designed. The loading port is a rotary piece that prevents any accidental firing during the loading process and also ensures that the loading port cannot come open and let a loose cartridge jam the action when in use. About 3,000 of these guns were made in the mid to late 1860s.
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"Rupertus Pepperbox!" sounds like a spell from Harry Potter.
@themastermason1
Ай бұрын
Or a character from Harry Potter
@Tekdruid
Ай бұрын
Could also be a dapper Bri'ish gent.
@joecuppko40uh29
Ай бұрын
Yep! It's an invisibility spell you use against your attackers, you use it and they disappear.
@MrHws5mp
Ай бұрын
Literally came down here to say it sounds like a character from HP...🤣
@badcopnodonut08
Ай бұрын
Except infinitely less trash.
Yes, absolutely do a video on 22 rimfire cartridges
@user-py4ek3vg3u
Ай бұрын
+1!
We definitely need a history of .22 Rimfire, and how and why it's stayed relevant for so long!
@jkirschy
Ай бұрын
Pretty sure there are already videos on that. If you don't mind doing some reading, Sam Fadala wrote "The Book of the Twenty-Two: The All-American Caliber" in 1989. It probably covers everything you're wanting and then some since he does .22 rimfires, and .22 centerfires (including black-powder and modern). Its still in print. Looks like it retails for around $30.
@stephencolley334
Ай бұрын
@@jkirschy TY, but I think he was asking for a video from Ian.😉😉😉
@raydenmorris5220
Ай бұрын
@jkirschy Hmm, I don't typically read (despite working at a book shop), but I might have to pick that up.
@spacewater7
Ай бұрын
Cheap? Convenient? Easy to make something that won't blow up in your face with if you use it?
@jkirschy
Ай бұрын
@@raydenmorris5220Its a good book. I read it several times in the 90s. And about a decade ago I recommended it to Tom Gaylord when he was looking for information about the early .22 center-fires that lead to the development of the .22 Hornet. He was trying to de-evolve the Hornet to get to its precusors as a project, and I happened to mention several long-obsolete, black-powder (?), .22 center-fire cartridges that he had never heard of that got at least standard notation naming (with the caliber - black powder loading - projectile weight) and the Lyman year/# catalogs that had bullet molds (and more reloading data) that were referenced in that book in the section on history. When I told him where I heard about those cartridges, he immediately bought a copy... Anyway, its not a hard read read. It's scope is broad enough to have something for most firearms enthusiasts, be it a tracing of the development of various .22s (rim-fire and center-fire), ballistics information (which is likely a bit dated due to old loadings being dropped and new ones coming in), hunting/target rifle suggestions (again probably a bit dated at this point)... But it really did focus on why the .22 (rim fire and center-fire) was such a popular/relevant caliber.
Please please please do a whole video on the history of the .22. I don't care if it's three hours long. I'm watching every second.
@Innomen
Ай бұрын
I agree, its an important cartridge. By far the most accessible. Virtually everyone's introduction to shooting. Extremely practical. It warrants the exposure/examination.
@jakejudson8578
Ай бұрын
Daisy red rider for me, but I think I did shoot my Dad's 22 as well when I was a youngin, I have a single shot bolt gun in 22 that was my Great grandfather's and I am pretty sure it was older than him.
@mikeblair2594
Ай бұрын
I agree. I love the history of firearms and the cartridges that are used in them.
@DB-yj3qc
Ай бұрын
As I watch this video my first 22LR is setting next to my bed a low cost single shot well over 60 years old. As a kid I had to make a new firing pin and extractor for it.
@mikeblair2594
Ай бұрын
@DB-yj3qc I've got the same thing. This was my mom's rifle back in the 40s and she gave it to me when I was ten. My dad showed me how to make a firing pin by chucking a piece of drill rod into the drill which was then chucked into a vice. Measure 5 times and use a very fine file and finish with a 1200 grit sand paper and a super fine Arkansas stone.
oooo. Yes, the development history of the .22 rim fire.
A replica of this gun would be sweet!
@Taistelukalkkuna
Ай бұрын
Hear hear.
@MrKronikDeception
Ай бұрын
It fits into the niche of "cool, obsolete, fun .22" Honestly, that's a niche that I really like.
@krissteel4074
Ай бұрын
Imagine when this was new, that brass would be a shiny gold and a very deep, blue-black on the steel. Overall though its really not a bad design for what it is and when it was made
@donwyoming1936
Ай бұрын
A new productinion one would probably have a price tag north of $800 unless it was made overseas.
@sloth7ds
Ай бұрын
I was just thinking that
Ian's visit to Morphy's was really productive. I've lost count of the videos he's made there recently.
@ForgottenWeapons
Ай бұрын
And there are still one or two more to go... :)
@av8bvma513
Ай бұрын
@@ForgottenWeapons Morphys:"Hmmm, each and every item Ian gets excited about and we let him make a video on gets a big groundswell in the auction, I think we are onto a good thing here!" ❤❤
@user-py4ek3vg3u
Ай бұрын
@@av8bvma513 Win-win
For something this small (rather, this short) a pepperbox might even be better than trying to make a "proper" revolver so small. As Ian says, no cylinder gap (which would be very close to the shooter's hand) and no unnecessary frame parts which probably wouldn't save much cost or weight.
@timcheeseman2956
Ай бұрын
Would be cool if you could somehow add a selector to fire it in 'blunderbuss' mode and let rip with 8 barrels simultaneously
@richardjames1812
Ай бұрын
@@timcheeseman2956 but it would need 8 hammers
@matthewspencer972
Ай бұрын
@@richardjames1812 Well, it could be a disc with eight pins in it, and they could strike the cartridge rims in a different place to the single-shot hammer. Would need a very strong spring for the size of gun and you might end up with something that would fire seven out of eight, excluding the round that was in line to the single-shot hammer. The disc would have to be something that really didn't bend (cupro béryllium?) and the spring(s) phosphur-bronze. Once you had done that, you've got something like the firing parts of a Howdah pistol, but the barrels would still need to revolve in order to fire successive single shots as well as seven at once. kzread.info/dron/PN852NLwm9JOG-p5Kf2Ayg.html might be content with that?
I would love to see a history of .22 and how it has changed stayed the same and held its place in the shooting community
Please do make a video on .22! I would love to see you talk about the history and longevity of .22, all the way from the first .22 rimfire, up to today's .22 lr, including .22 short and .22 long along the way, and how .22lr is kinda the only reason .22 long still exists. And how .22 short is more powerful than .25 ACP. I often say, and stand by it, that .22lr is the best cartridge ever made. It may not be acceptable for defense (barring something like the AM180, which is a perfect home defense gun) but .22lr is... it's just so fun!
In this size class of firearms, pepperbox looks like a very rational design.
That is really cool gun, and like others have commented, replica with modern .22 would be awesome.
@worldtraveler930
Ай бұрын
I second that motion!!! 🤠👍
I had to chuckle at the tiny Rupertus on the table and all those monster MGs in the background.
That's a cute and adorable piece. I hope the seller got a good price for it. Yes Please to a documentary on the venerable round.
@jakejudson8578
Ай бұрын
Looks can be deceiving!
Maybe you can take the ejector out once it's put at halfcock and with the loading gate open? Not sure, but worth a shot
@johnanon6938
Ай бұрын
I was going to comment the same thing.
@luigiswayze
Ай бұрын
Honestly I would think he would have tried that
@stephencolley334
Ай бұрын
@@luigiswayze Probably, but still worth mentioning! 😁😁😁😁
@SqueakiestChair
Ай бұрын
@@luigiswayze probably so, no hurt on mentioning it tho. Just in case
@trooperdgb9722
Ай бұрын
@@SqueakiestChair Indeed! Gun Jesus is not vain enough to avoid advice from elsewhere...
Just a guess, but maybe the extractor rod can't be removed, unless the loading gate is in the open position. This feature would prevent the rod from coming out when the gun is being fired.
That it the coolest loading gate/revolver saftey I have ever seen. So neat!
Please do a .22 rimfire video!
That's the kind of innovation that helps advance firearms technology. 👍
@spacewater7
Ай бұрын
Only thing is that SOMEHOW this became an evolutionary dead-end. Time to bring it back! It'll be easier to resurrect than the mastodon.
A modern replica of this weapon, technically improved, made of modern material (stainless steel would be great!), and perhaps with more caliber options, would be very good! I would buy! Hello Davide Pedersoli! Uberti! North American Arms
@KevinKadow
Ай бұрын
Or FOSSCAD -- entirely printed, only metal being the mainspring, barrel liners and perhaps the impact surface of the hammer (the "firing pin").
It's pretty neat to think of how this is something like the modern "'high capacity' micro-pistol" of its day. I would definitely watch a video on the original .22 rimfire cartridge.
"Rupertus Patent Pistol Manufacturing Company" is the best name for a company that makes ye old pepperboxes.
At the next two gun challenge, the chauchat 30-06 and the Rupertus.
@jonathansmith6050
Ай бұрын
As long as the Rupertus doesn't run into its archnemeses Mini-Mos and the pistol poppers
@blshouse
Ай бұрын
He should take this to a back-up gun match.
Nice vid. Something about multi-barrelled guns like this have always appealed to me aesthetically.
In the back of my mind is playing a scene from Blazing Saddles, where the Kid is telling the Sheriff " don't do that , you'll just make him mad " . Interesting little pistola , Ian . Yes , you need to do a video on the .22 rimfire . Make it a 2 part video , or better yet , 2 , 2 part videos . There is probably enough enough minutiae and arcane history with this round and it's variants to not need a whole lot of filler , and if you need filler , a few range scenes comparing the performance of the still available variants would work , along with a few of the most iconic .22 rimfire guns of all time .
Hold up, bring that 1911 back in frame. That thing was clean.
A sweet vest pistol.. likely an expansive well made era product.
Okay this guy is super unknown and clearly very quirky please please do more of his firearms. I do like learning more about the 'underdog' companies as the stories are always so fascinating whether failed or were successful I love the idea of the little guy making a good go of it and the guns they make to either compete or get around patent or licensing laws are always really clever or just plain different. So would love to see more 'underdog' company guns please Ian.
The Peppermill pistol as an very important place in the History of the creation of Germany the united nation. As this type of gun was used in an attempted assination attempt to killer the then Prussian Chanceller Bismarck . A Bavarian Nationlist named Cohin-blind attempted to killer Bismarck in Berlin while Bismarck was taking his walk through a park after seing the King of Prussia. The next I will quote. "On the afternoon of May 7, he lay in wait for Bismarck, revolver in hand, in the Unter den Linden, a boulevard in central Berlin. The Chancellor had just reported to King Wilhelm and was now walking home. When Bismarck was close to the Russian Embassy, Cohen-Blind took aim and fired twice from behind; Bismarck spun around and grabbed his attacker, who was able to fire three more shots before soldiers from the 1st Battalion of the 2nd Guards rushed up and took him into custody. Bismarck continued on his way home. Later that night, he allowed the King's physician, Gustav von Lauer, to examine him. Lauer noted that the first three bullets had only grazed Bismarck's body and the last two had ricocheted off the ribs and had caused no major injuries." Otto von Bismarck was a tough guy by the looks of it.he kept the that Cohin-Blind used in his office desk for years afterwards and it only strenghtened him to finish creating a single German nation which he did withing a few years of the attempt. As for Cohin-Blind he slite his throat only a few hours later while in his cell. and here is a challenge for your channel. That Peppermill gun is still around a 6 Shot Lefaucheux that is on display at the Bismarck Museum in Friedrichsruh about 24 miles south of Hamburg were his Family home is. Maybe on one of your European travels you could ask to see that gun than shaped the Modern History of Europe.
No cylinder gap means it is going to be a bit more efficient. .22s need all the help they can get.
@trooperdgb9722
Ай бұрын
Especially a 29gr bullet on FOUR grains of BP!!!
i don't know that i never wanted a pocket pistol this bad
That loading gate/safety is really smart.
Very nice, I bought a very nice one about 6 mounts ago for my father! Our last name is Rupertus and my father was born about 200 miles from where Jacob Rupertus was from. This will be In my family for many years from my father to me and then to my son! I'm looking for more of the Rupertus firearms. By the way you did better then most people with my last name. Thanks for the video!!! From a Rupertus from Texas!!!
I wonder if the ejector rod can only be removed with the loading gate plate pushed into an open position?
@RonRupertus
Ай бұрын
I have one and the rod come out easy. and I'm also a Rupertus! Had to get this one
Oh! Judging by the thumbnail and the lack of .22 in the title I thought this would be WAY bigger, for some reason. It's so cute!
In amazing condition indeed. 22 rimfire history would be interesting .
My favorite firearm is my Remington model 514 .22. Single Shot bolt action. It was a Christmas gun when I was seven or eight years old. It’s being buried with me.
Pepperbox revolvers are always cool to see.
Last time I was this early weapon of the future was a G36 in a bodyshell and not a piston AR10
I'm just kind of in awe at how good this thing looks for how old it is. Time has dulled the finish a bit sure, but it looked to be keeping time beautifully and if you could find repro ammo for it I wouldn't be afraid to fire it.
I would love to see a new series just on the history of different ammunition.
I think this would be a fun gun to be reproduced. Please Ian 🙏 do a history of 22: 22flobert, 22S&W, long, extra long, long rifle, 22 Winchester (for 1903 autoloader) and probably the dozen we don't know covering black, mixed, and smokeless loads.
I have been thinking about pepper boxes a lot recently I am intrigued by them it’s funny that its same function is preformed today by an 8shot .22 revolver or pocket auto also usually 8 shot
The rod just pulls straight out. It does not screw in when despite having a notch for a screwdriver. The end is forked and the tension holds it in place.
Just love all of the old firearms and the stories behind them. Thank so much for the great videos.
I would genuinely love to hear you talk about the history of .22 rim fire.
Coincidentally, Pepperbox TV was announced one day ago 😊
Soooo cool. Love it. Thank you Ian!!
The fact they added that tiny rear sight notch on the hammer is adorable
Shout out to pepper box TV
These are the cool little guns I'd like to see made again.
I'd be down for a video on the history of the .22 rimfire cartridge.
That's a really nice little pepperbox! Thanks for the video!
This is an amazing piece of art.
New channel please.... "Forgotten Cartridges"! Ian's approach applied to the world of cartridges would be awesome. I find the history of cartridges just as interesting as the weapons
What a delightful little pepperbox! I appreciate it.
I love video like this showing the forward-thinking tech of the age. I'd love to see the history of the 22LR.
Very cool design, well thought out and a little beauty of a firearm
The initial contrast of this pistol to the machine guns on the rack behind you was very amusing!
That is an amazing little piece of history.
Another vote for the 22 Rimfire video..Please! My first rifle (lo those many years ago lol) was, yes, a 22. BUT I just recetly got my first rimfire in 40 years... well.. a 22 conversion for my CZ Shadow... and I REALLY HAD forgotten the sheer FUN a 22 brought to the table!
Design wise that is really impressive. Very simple.
That would be really cool if you do a presentation on the history of .22 rim fire cartridges. 👍
Thanks Ian. .
That's quite the lovely pistol you got Ian, it's always a pleasure watching your explanations about these types of firearms. I would love a video about the .22 cartridge because that predates all the cartridges that were produced in the following centuries.
What an awesome little gun! 😀
This thing is surprisingly sophisticated for such a small package
Beautiful little gun.
I think it's really cool too! Thanks for sharing it.
Please do a history of the 22 rimfire.
Really cool design!
Vids on forgotten (or not) cartridges would be very welcome.
Please do a video on the History of the 22 rimefire
That is a neat little gun.
Looks like it would make a great kit to build
Very cool.
That would be easy to produce. And really really cool!
Neat little video on a neat little peice. Definitely a handly little friend for a gentleman (or rougue) or a lady (possibly of easy virtue) to discreetly carry about the town.
That is truly a pocket pistol.
To think I'd find a video from you within seconds of it being uploaded! Also wow...that's quite the tiny terror. I used to draw these types of firearms way back when I first learned about guns and just couldn't stop looking up their history.
Wouldn't carry with the access disc turned would simply download to 7 rounds, but very nice little .22, excellent vest pocket self defense revolver for the 1860's. And I will join the chorus for a video on the wonders of the .22 caliber round. Most of us began our shooting lives with that round and shoot it just because of how easy it is to shoot and how much fun can be had with it, but most of us don't realize how long it has been around, how far it can reach and how deadly it really can be. Morphy's & Rock Island have such wonderful things!
Very cool gun. Please go into the history of the 22 rf. That would be very interesting indeed.
A .32 rimfire would have been a better choice at say 7 barrels. Google says: The . 32 short was designed in 1860 by Smith & Wesson for their Model 2 revolver. In 1868, they introduced the . 32 Long in the Model 11⁄2 Second Issue revolver. If that had been in .32 long it would have been a more viable option for defense vs a black powder .22 short.
That is so cool.
Notice the little rear sight notch cut into the top of the hammer, like single-action revolvers.
A modern version in 22mag would be interesting. I already have two NAA mini revolvers but there's something about a pepperbox that I really like.
So is this your way of announcing that you are on Pepperbox TV, as well?
Cool little octapistol. Thanks for sharing! See ya later!
Neat pistol
Awesome lookin little peperbox
Sweet little gun
I have a modern one, love it.
@jakejudson8578
Ай бұрын
@@DirectedEnergyWeapon Glock 42
Cute and efficient.. I like it
Nice pistol.
Cool thanks
Beautiful ! Twice the capacity and not much bigger than a .22 Sharps' !
He passed away in New Jersey. There's only one firearms manufacturer left in New Jersey, Henry Repeating Arms. They only manufacturer their 22 rimfire rifle here.
@ewathoughts8476
Ай бұрын
It used to be a saying that everyone in the USA used a least one New Jersey manufactured item daily. Sadly that is no longer true.
@mrtlsimon
Ай бұрын
@@ewathoughts8476 There's a bridge in Trenton that has a lit sign that reads "Trenton Makes The World Takes". It is criminal the way politicians destroyed the manufacturing industry in this state.
@MichaelPoage666
Ай бұрын
I have a Henry Golden Boy in my collection. I bought it on impulse when visiting a local Bi-Mart, and it was on sale. I haven't fired it, but I've cycled some .22 short through it to see if that would work. (It holds more rounds if you use shorts) I know this Henry isn't related to the original Henry, but it's still a cool, gold lever gun, lol.
@mrtlsimon
Ай бұрын
@@MichaelPoage666 I have a Golden Boy and a Henry Frontier both are smooth, accurate and fun. Have a great time with yours.
Beautiful 🤌🏻
Super cool piece! I do a lot of metal detecting and i have found numerous spent rimfire .22 shells at sites that date, at newest, to the 1870s. I always like to think about who used them and why, as well as what weapon they came from.
What a cool little pistol! That even appeals to me today! 😊😊😊 Such an interesting design. Thanks for all you do! God bless all here.