"I look forward to learning how Luke, Snoke and Kylo Ren look at these philosophies" - Ouch, that gotta hurt. :-(

To be fair, being murdered by your apprentice so some dude in the future can rule the galaxy sounds like a stupid concept.

ah, the rule of two. a rule meaning one shuttle accident could wipe out the order. lol

Oh boy. I come from the future to tell you that your hopes about the Disney Star Wars movies are misplaced. The Sequel Trilogy will be worse than you can possibly imagine.

Um... no. The Rule of Two's abandonment was NOT why the Sith failed. The Sith 'failed' because the Force had been antagonized by Plagueis and had decided "Welp... time to go back to square one!", destroying both the Jedi AND the Sith over time.

The greatest weakness of the Sith is selfishness. This was why large Sith organizations fail because each Sith cares more about their own power than group. As a result the Sith can't trust each other and the group had little cohesion with treachery and infighting as the result. The biggest threat to a Sith is not the Jedi but other Sith. The Rule of Two partially solves that problem but does not eliminate it. Every Sith is selfish and given the chance would try to stay in power forever. The Rule of Two can't ultimately work because it requires the master to unselfishly care more about the Sith Order than himself and to never try to cheat the system.

The rule of two is the longest game of telephone ever played

Legends is so much better that current canon.

I understand the logic behind the Rule of Two, but I still disagree with it. Two is far too few. Simple bad luck could wipe out both master and student. We still had incredibly powerful sith long before the Rule of Two. Ancient sith didn't need it.

So the sith masters are supposed to sacrificed themselves to their aprentice for the greater sith good? weird since all of them are so selfcentered and bent on becoming more and more powerful. i guess they were meant to fail from the start.

“What will be interesting to see in ep 7 8 9 is the philosophy that fills the void…”

There is always one greedy bastard that has to ruin it for everyone.

Zannah: I have surpassed you, Bane. Now I am the Master.

The Rule of Two is inherently flawed in itself. So risky. So much could have easily gone wrong. Just one duel where both master and pupil die and the sith are extinct. Or die through anything else. It wouldn't even necessarily need to die both, if the master dies with only a young apprentice...

Plagueis seems like a pretty nice guy though tbh

I forget if I had commented on this earlier, but it's worth repeating. The ultimate failure of the Sith was not because of the latter day masters failing to uphold the Rule of Two, but because Darth Bane himself had failed to anticipate the degradation of his philosophy as the Grand Plan came closer to fruition. Darth Bane instituted his philosophy as a means to destroy the Jedi and the Republic. He did not institute it as an end unto itself. It was inevitable that later day masters would succumb to the temptation of immortality, because once the Jedi and the Republic were destroyed, there would be no other outlet for the Dark Side to manifest itself. As a scholar of the Dark Side, I'm surprised that Bane didn't consider this fundamental philosophical problem. The example of Darth Nihilus should have served as a warning. That Sith Lord decided to worship the void instead of seeking immortality, but the philosophical problem leading to that choice was the same that confronted Teneborous, Plagueus, and Sidious. For Darth Bane, there was no endgame beyond the destruction of the Jedi and the Republic. No analysis of what the Dark Side's purpose was after the goal of supremacy was achieved. That was why the Rule of Two failed.

After hearing how the last three Sith masters behaved, Vader seems benign in comparison. He strikes me as someone who'd go along with the Rule of Two or at least behave in a fairly honourable fashion for a Sith Lord. He's brutal and tough but honest. If he had managed to depose Palpatine and become Emperor, he'd have reformed the Empire and eventually created a new order of Sith that would emulate his teachings and produce someone who could take his place at some point.

When you think of it, the rule of two, as conceived by Darth Bane is actually selfless. He wished not that he himself controls the galaxy, but the sith, and the way for that, is sacrificing himself to the stronger sith and so on and so on.

I highly doubt The Sith will fully go away because there are sith temples and holocrons across The Galaxy that any force sensitive can access and be influenced by

The Rule of 2 made little sense, and was very counter to the Sith's beliefs. The Dark Side required destruction and action. This is why it was very common for the Sith, once they had actually won to not hold that power long. They stopped being active and became reactive and defensive, and the Dark Side was not with them. Palpatine and Vader where noteworthy excepts, as they kept the Empire in constant strife.