I thought it was a gonner into the trees for sure. Just heart stopping! Beautiful flight once again.

Free flight is truly an art, trimming a model out. Take you back to proper modelling 👍👍👍

That last flight was one of the most intrinsically beautiful sequences I have ever seen. The quintessential demonstration of the performance of modern FAC models.

@maxfliart

6 жыл бұрын

Thx, William. It sure was an exciting first day for the Haines. Better than I'd ever imagined. Glad I got her back via the DT.

Excellent video, Thomas! Just returned from the flying field myself. A handshake !

Wow... Just Wow... Very nice plane and very nice flights! It seemed a bit windy that day and you were brave to push the limits. Thanks for posting!

beautiful show , BROVO !

Beautiful video. Thank you so much. I spend too much time watching videos and not enough time building!

At 14:30 I go, “wow,” and then hear you... lol. What a sweet video. Thanks!

Excellent! A great trimming session with very positive results. Good to see you back in the field. Noel

@maxfliart

7 жыл бұрын

Thx, Noel. I have a couple of new ships for the trim field, so I'm looking forward to the Spring weather. Cheers.

Awesome trim session

BEAUTIFUL FLIGHTS! Thanks Much!

Love the real flyby sounds at 2:30

Dan Gurney, the All American Racer. Long may his name live on.

@maxfliart

4 жыл бұрын

Indeed!!

I use to do free flight and rubber powered but with rubber power there was always this massive surge or thrust at the beginning with some disastrous results. But I learnt something today. I might go back to it after seeing this today. Rubber powered can be scratch built too so its not so hard on the pocket like RC.

really nice flights

A great flyer that plane ,inspired me to make one

RE the Haines looking like a Caudron C.460, the R-1 Chambermaid 22" 1938 by Russell Chambers also looks like the Haines (kinda). I was positive I had the plans for the Caudron so I went looking in my plans and nope, but I did have the Chambermaid plans. Around 2001 for some reason I ran across an estate sale of old stick & tissue plans and I don't think the guy knew what he had and I thought oh my gosh, I can't turn my back on this. Anyway, I bought all but maybe three and once I got them and saw how nice they were, I went back for the remainders, but they were gone. These plans are like works of art to me and as far as I'm concerned, they're irreplaceable - they're history - they're museum pieces. It's a lot of work unrolling these, so I thought, I ought to make up a list of what's here while I'm looking for the Caudron. I'll paste in the list. Wonder if any of these are near and dear to you - if any tug at your heart? Here's the list: Megow Waco Cabin Model 23" 1935 biplane by Fred W. Megow Comet Sparky 32" by Edward Lidgard Mercury Sirocco 32" by Brian Lewis The Hurricane! 33" by Earl Stahl Model Builder Magazine Mercury 36" High wing cabin (shows engine with ignition wire and rubber, bearing & nose block) Cleveland Flemish Defiance C-2 32" 1952 Class C Cleveland Polish Valor C-4 32" Class C Best By Test Model Co. Sensatherm 44" by Ed Schlosser Class D Midwest Dyna-Moe 33 3/4" Class C Jetco Eaglet 18" Berkeley Models The Chiertan 26" low wing 1941 Fly Boy 18" R.O.G. 1964 Comet Percival Gull 18" Poly HLG by Bill Blanchard 21" Miller's Manhattan 20" by James I. Miller R-1 Chambermaid 22" 1938 by Russell Chambers (looks like Caudron C.460 & Haines) Dick Korda's Victory 32" (looks original & says NAA) Walt Mooney Quail 1979 (forgot to measure wingspan) 1940 Moffett Winner 46" by Roy Nelder Model Builder Magazine The Navy Flyer 26" by S. Gilles... (name / corner missing) Scientific The Olympic 40" high wing cabin Outdoor Cabin 1937 by Earl Stahl Old Timer Models Milwaukee dated 1979 Hi-Climber 30" 1939 by Earl Stahl Flying Aces Magazine Korda's Wakefield Winner 44" kitted by Megow Model Builder Magazine Dick Korda's The kO.R.da Open Road Special 35" 1939/40 from Open Road For Boys Magazine Newer: These two, the Eaglet and the hlg are mine Midwest Gollwock II 31 3/4" Wally Simmers Nostalgia Series Midwest Jabberwock II 31 3/4" Wally Simmers Nostalgia Series

Wow,great tutorial on trimming. Last flight I thought it might go OOS.

Wonderfull. Congratulations.

halfway through - glide is good, so DO NOT mess with GC or elevator - adjust for less down thrust. Last climb out was awesome - Dt'd so soon (smart) - 'wonder if glide is now a series of stalls? Beautiful airplane - awesome build!

You sure got that puppy dialed in, that last flight was fantastic, also I would love to obtain the plans, it's a beautiful plane.

Beautiful final flights. Gone for sure without the DT.

Great trim flights and nice ship. Looks like the Gurney flap worked great. When you mean outboard wing do you mean the left wing? Outboard could mean right wing as well.

Where can I get plans for that design? Great trimming video. Thanks.

Does an airplane with a fuselage longer than a wing have poor longitudinal stability? Does it feel that the fuselage is smaller than the wing and fly more stably?

Awesome plane... Are the colors authentics? The Frank Haines Racer, The Firefly, was said to be bronze with green lettering, in other publications red with black numbers. Excellent job !

@maxfliart

4 жыл бұрын

Thx for the feedback and kind words. My research showed numerous color schemes, including the ones you mentioned. I based mine on the W.F. Kerka 3-view that noted the Haines "Mystery H-3" racer as 'metallic bronze with red letters & numerals'.

@jean-paulgomis8070

4 жыл бұрын

@@maxfliart Thanks for the info, Possible to get W.F. Kerka's plan ? I've the Robert Hirsch one from his magnificent huge book on Air Racers. I wish you fun and happy flights.

Nice flights! When you say 2 loops of 42", is that 42" total length looped twice creating 4 parallel strands of rubber at 10.5" long?

@maxfliart

7 жыл бұрын

Thx. No, each loop (and strand) is 42" long.

@TexMechsRobot

7 жыл бұрын

Ok. So then you have a total of 84" of rubber in two separate 42" pieces and each piece is put into a loop so you wind up with 4 lengths of rubber 21" running from the nose to the tail? I'm needing details because I'm trying to get my plane flying and everyone seems to use the terminology of "4 loops of ...." or "6 loops of..." and I can't seem to get an actual setup of how the rubber motor looks and is built.

@maxfliart

7 жыл бұрын

Here's how I translate (for example) 2 loops of 3/16" x 42" long. Each single strand would be 42" long. So in effect I am starting with a single piece of 3/16" rubber that is over 168" long (a few extra inches to tie the knot). Tying the ends makes an 84" loop, which is doubled over, making two loops, 42" long. However, before I double it over, I wind in anywhere from 140 to 200 forward winds, which allows the rubber to braid itself, and keeps a rested tension in the rubber to prevent shifts in CG.

@TexMechsRobot

7 жыл бұрын

That's exactly what I needed to know. Thanks so much!

What is the Rubber motor specifications in it? I mean to ask e.g. number of strands and length etc

@maxfliart

6 жыл бұрын

four strands (or two loops) of .160" rubber, each strand 42" long. Gives me 2400 turns.

Is the constant turn generated by rudder offset or lateral balance weights? Amazing to watch.

@maxfliart

5 жыл бұрын

Yes....haha. Actually, it's a blend of a few things. I'd say that the thrust is what affects the constant turn the most, but then you're dealing with thrust and torque, so as the torque fades, the thrust isn't nearly as powerful. That's when tweaks to the rudder, or gurney flaps on either TE, or small amounts of wing tip weight will keep things in check as the model transitions from the power run to the glide. Each model is different, so it's like reinventing flight each time out. Even with building the same model twice, you'll probably end up with two different trim patterns...which in the end is good, because it increases ur knowledge base and experience with trimming. Glad u enjoy the films.

@sblack48

5 жыл бұрын

I was an rc guy, now I fly full scale, but there is something really peaceful about this.

Are the wings, stabs and rudder glued to the fuselage? If not how does this stay there? Is there any illustration available on a website?

@f4udhorn

5 жыл бұрын

Go to www.flyingacesclub.org, Yasser. There there are tips for doing a lot of things in their newsletter, that you can subscribe to or look at it on-line first for a sample.

@f4udhorn

5 жыл бұрын

The stab on this airplane pivots on the center spar to "dethermalize" it from the uplift thermal it was in that made it go so high. If this had'nt happened, Tom would probably lost it on a flyaway! Just join the Flying Aces Club of the world because all it's members are eager to share all the secrets that make these ships fly.

@f4udhorn

5 жыл бұрын

Not always, but usually the wings are glued onto the fuselages except on the bigger planes, above 30" w/span.

All the DT rigging appears to be internal. Could you show us details for the DT?

@maxfliart

6 жыл бұрын

Here are two methods for the DT setup. Both use the same internal approach. How you decide to pop the tail depends on the model design, and what's most efficient. hallmanstudio.com/waco_DT_5.jpg hallmanstudio.com/Gadfly_DT.jpg

Hope I don't sound stupid but what is the plane you used in this video called?

@maxfliart

7 жыл бұрын

It's the Haines H-3 Firefly. www.shu-aero.com/AeroPhotos_Shu_Aero/Aircraft_F/Haines/index.html

Im guessing that you were in engineering, tool and die or some related high focus field?

@maxfliart

4 жыл бұрын

No, I'm a book cover artist, but my dad was a carpenter. We both enjoy building something out of nothing.

When I first saw it, I thought it was a Caudron C.460

@maxfliart

5 жыл бұрын

Haha...same thing I felt when I first saw the Caudron...looks like a Haines!!

Which timer do you use, silly putty timer?

@maxfliart

7 жыл бұрын

No, I've been using the button timers.

@leifvejby8023

7 жыл бұрын

Button, like electronic release button? Great flying model and great field!

@maxfliart

7 жыл бұрын

Thx, it's an amazing space. Here's the link to the button dethermalizers or timers. It's not electronic, but instead works off the slow release of a friction fitted post and arm. volareproducts.com/BUY/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_36&products_id=600

@leifvejby8023

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot! That is the same principle as the timers we call "silly putty timers", but I didn't know they could be bought readymade - guess I will do that from now on, they look smaller than the ones we can make! Thanks!!

@maxfliart

7 жыл бұрын

I've always suspected that silly putty was used as the "viscous material" that creates the resistance. The button timers are definitely reactive to changing temperatures, so you need to be aware of those tendencies each time at the field.