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@Mini-z1994

Жыл бұрын

Should try getting hold of a socket 1366 motherboard, a 6 core xeon w3690 (Basically a core I7 980x or 990x with unlocked multiplier. So get a fat aio on there & fan pointed on the vrm on the motherboard.) 24 gb of ram via 6x4 gb ram sticks, and run the 3090ti, it should have support for cyberpunk 2077 by the look of other youtube videos.

@DBLCreations

Жыл бұрын

Damn. you! I had these exact specs. Minus the GPU of course. Though, back in that day i had a Zalman GT1000 case with the red fans in the front. With an XFX 790 SLI Ultra Motherboard in it. Intel Core2Quad (i believe it was the Q9550.) I know the Q6600 was extremely popular as well back then btw! As for the GPU i know it was an XFX GT (Black edition) but i don't remember the number anymore to be honest. The CPU cooler was the same Zalman CPU cooler as you have in the video but it was black with a green light in it. All in all, it looked very cool. I had uv lights in it with blue and red lights and it would go on the sound/volume of the music! lastly, i had a 600 watt PSU from OCZ. I really loved that pc! And then, a bit later, i was diagnosed with leukemia and i pretty much stopped doing building my own pc's or as we would call it back in those days: "PC Tuning."

@enrikassidlauskas5260

Жыл бұрын

I7 4790k whit RTX 3090TI Plzzzzzzzz

@Versuffe

Жыл бұрын

Hey. I’m in australia and with the highest pays, you cannot afford a computer. I could only get myself a $2000Aud G531GT-AL017T, which is trashy, it has a 1650. I am struggling with computers. Tips? (Don’t tell me to get a new job)

@DBLCreations

Жыл бұрын

​@@Versuffe Get a new job! 😂 Just messing with ya! 😂 But seriously, question: Why did you take a "trashy" $2000 pc? Why not look around first on youtube or google for example for best value? $2000AUD seems like a lot of money? You could've saved up a bit longer? Or wasn't that a possibility?

Next video: Intel Core i9-14900K with GeForce 256.

@Silas123ez

Ай бұрын

That's a good idea lol

@wvh-pups

Ай бұрын

@@Silas123ezno way, 17 hours ago

@CR7Addictz

Ай бұрын

​@@wvh-pups no way, 5 hours ago

@zeniththedemuth

Ай бұрын

@@CR7Addictzno way, 2 hours ago

@comefueldat2771

Ай бұрын

@@zeniththedemuthno way, 2 hours ago

Those black slots are Industry Standard Architecture (ISA) slots. It is a 16-bit bus (AKA AT bus) backward compatible with the 8-bit bus (AKA PC bus). Which could support up to six devices and had operating speeds of Half-duplex 8MBps or 16MBps. Vying for a 32-bit bus, an extended version (EISA) was created; and while seeing some success in the server market it was later replaced by the emergence and adoption of the Peripheral Component Interconnect (PCI) bus, the predecessor of the PCIe bus we all know and love today.

@zaxmaxlax

Жыл бұрын

It surprised me he didn't know what ISA slots are. I'm only 30yo but I've had a k6 and pentium 3 machines motherboards with ISA slots and AT power supplies.

@keithjones589

Жыл бұрын

I knew what they were for, just couldn't remember the name, and I'm 33

@Hr1s7i

Жыл бұрын

This explanation threw me back. Instantly reminded me of a character in TRON 2.0, who was residing in the old mainframe. He used to geek out on new hardware this way. Good old times :D

@petergriffin-cq5kw

Жыл бұрын

@@zaxmaxlax Same here. I'd love to see what happens if he has to put together an AT system.

@Gazer75

Жыл бұрын

Think the VESA Local Bus extension for the 16-bit ISA was more common for desktop motherboard before PCI came along.

Used to have this exact CPU back in 2010/2011, on a DFI LanParty P45, overclocked at a pretty good 4.2 ghz, with the same 8gb of ddr2, and an SLI of GTX460. That combo could run Crysis 2 in Ultra DX11 and with HD textures at 60+ fps at 1080p, and Battlefield 3 on Ultra 1080p at over 80-90 fps and I was feeling like a king with that setup back then! I eventually switched to the sandy bridge platform with an i7 2600K in 2012, then upgraded the gpu part to a GTX780 Ti in 2013. Good times man.

Had the Q6600. It was quiet powerful for an old CPU.

@falcon01i

Ай бұрын

That was my dream processor back in the day. My 14 years old broke ass could only afford Pentium Dual Core and later core 2 duo e2200 I think or something similar. Good old days.

It’s a ISA slot. Was before PCI and was around with the AGP GPU slot

@quittessa1409

Жыл бұрын

Yeah - that's what good Dos soundcards sit in :P

@grahamdarby

Жыл бұрын

ISA slots were created in 1981.

@CameronVanNatta

Жыл бұрын

My first sound card used an ISA slot. I can confirm this is ISA.

@fragalot

Жыл бұрын

You mean ISA was before AGP? right.. cuz ISA slots were the original 8-bit bus interface for IBM PC and all clones.

@justsomeperson5110

Жыл бұрын

"It’s a ISA slot. Was before PCI and was around with the AGP GPU slot" Whoah whoah whoah! Hold them horsies. That there is rainbows and unicorns talk. The ISA slot was not around with AGP. AGP is waaaaaaaay too new for an ISA slot. ISA came out in 1981. PCI didn't come out until a decade later in 1992. AGP, yet another five years in 1997. To find an ISA slot and an AGP slot on the same mobo at all was extremely rare and usually spoke of industrial application.

Love how the processor at 100% doesn't get more than 50°C

@Blaczek297

Жыл бұрын

mine reaches 100 C° at this utilization

@MistyKathrine

Жыл бұрын

@@Blaczek297 My 12700K wants to run at 100 naturally. I've had to upgrade my cooling twice since I got the thing, because the first upgrade wasn't good enough. 12th gen gets way too hot way too easily.

@Blaczek297

Жыл бұрын

I have a Dell G3 laptop and I already ordered cooling pad and I'm waiting to get it. When I get it I will test it and let you know

@shivamverma7151

Жыл бұрын

@@Blaczek297 you got it ?

@Blaczek297

Жыл бұрын

@@shivamverma7151 yes

This video brings back memories. We had a family computer bought in 2009 with a similar CPU. I then got it as my first very own PC in 2012. I finished the Witcher on my Q6600 back in 2015 I then proceeded to buy a Ryzen in 2017. I pushed that CPU very far. Even overclocking it with duct tape. I still loved it even through all the crashes and fps drops. And it still runs. As a TV PC in our home

@djancak

8 ай бұрын

overclocked it with duct tape? that actually works? wow

@sualehm8517

7 ай бұрын

Danm that works??

@DanStarTheFirst

6 ай бұрын

@@djancak duct tape one of the pins on the cpu and it upclocks it

I remember building my first custom watercooled loop with a Q6600 overclocked at 4ghz and HD4890 overclocked at 1ghz stable. The watercool loop cost me the same as the total cost of all other components in the system, but It was the first 4ghz q6600 i've seen. After that I got the Phenom II 1040T which was a rebadged 1100T ... ohh the good times. Also you can probably overclock that CPU to 3.6 - 3.8ghz with the Zalman Cooler and that's like 30% more performance. Thanks for the nostalgia trip!

Legit had that exact CPU, motherboard, & cooling combo back in 2008. Had my Q9550 overclocked to a modest 3.7ghz paired up with the ATI Radeon 4870. Served me well for quite a while. Good times. Makes me feel old now turning 36 soon.

@034G63EVO

Жыл бұрын

I was on an Overclocked Q6600 :)

@potatocubes69

Жыл бұрын

Bro u rich af back then 🤣

@turboimport95

Жыл бұрын

I still got my old ass ati 4890 laying around somewhere. it was still a contender when I upgraded. I used it on a old Athlon x4 620.

@Kakadutuber

Жыл бұрын

'Modest'

@TheWindows72306

Жыл бұрын

Git old, old man

The development from 2009 -> 2011 was extreme - Opens you up to stuff like the i7 3930K which still holds it own at 11 years old Would love to see a follow-up with some of the first 6-cores. I'm actually still using mine with a 2070 Super

@TheMorteReport

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, my 3570k was my longest lasting system. It's now become a hand-me-down to my niece who uses it for minecraft and roblox.

@justz00t48

Жыл бұрын

Can confirm that the Ivy bridge CPU still hold up very well for their age. In the past you never really could get away with using processors over a decade old. Got a 3950x now and it's almost obscene how much performance modern CPUs have and it's really getting to the point where you have to struggle to find ways to max out the hardware.

@mexert14

Жыл бұрын

Still using my i7-3770K & GTX 670, in 2022. All I do is play some indie games and GTA V. GTA V on ultra runs good enough for me, mostly at 60 fps.

@sprocketbonmb9548

Жыл бұрын

@@mexert14 I run a slightly worse system than yours, i3 2130, GTX 650

@alattice

Жыл бұрын

I'm still running i7-970 and rx580 and it does everything I need

Me with core 2 duo:🗿🗿🗿

@mahdymagrabe3749

Ай бұрын

Me to ... After 1 year of your comment 🥲

@acheron5900

19 күн бұрын

My previous pc had a core 2 duo and a gt710 and before that i was trying to game on a pentium4 system with a gt8600😂

This video really demonstrates just how important the CPU is. You can cheap out on it up to a certain point but your still gonna need something relatively modern with high clock speed and core count with modern instructions like AVX2. In order to just boot some games.

6:44 Those are ISA expansion slots. Those came way before the PCI slots and the AGP expansion slots. At the time of that motherboard, those ISA slots were probably used only for compatibility with Legacy Devices. Oh the 90's, how much we miss ya :)

@jay1185

Жыл бұрын

Definitely makes me feel old that PCI was introduced 30 years ago and my first computer had something like 4 ISA slots with 2 PCI lol

@lesleymunro4964

Жыл бұрын

The ISA slots were in the original IBM XT. those ones were 16-bit slots, but in some old 8088/8086 machines like the XT , you could get 8 bit ones which didn't have the extra bit on the end. I think they ran at a maximum of 8Mhz. They also had a mad connector called VESA Local Bus, which could get tacked on at the end of an ISA slot, it was kinda the predecessor to PCI coming in. That was around in the 386/486 days.

@michaelthompson9798

Жыл бұрын

Glad to see I’m not the only one who not only remembers ISA slots, but I also grew up using them with my OG Sound Blaster sound card and memory upgradable GPU (2mb max) lol 😆

@RulzSG

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelthompson9798 Man i Remember my first Sound Blaster Card. Jeez it was absolutely necessary to play Duke Nukem 3D with awesome music. Hail to the King Baby!

@Totem9519

Жыл бұрын

@@RulzSG I remember testing my 8-bit SB while setting up Warcraft. It would say "Your sound card works perfectly" over a blue ASCII screen if you set it up correctly. My college buddies were super impressed, lol. It was voice by the guy who probably voiced all the units in the game, lol. Ahh the good old days...

Dude, you made me shed man tears. Since I turned 31 this year, this vid is like a Time Machine

@Axisoflords

Жыл бұрын

Yes sir, same here at 29 years old. Wonderful, splendid, finger slicing time machine memories

@JG-ti7id

Жыл бұрын

Fax

@acid3129

Жыл бұрын

@@danielforeman8934 go away grandad this is for late 20s early 30s we want to remember counter strike 1.6 and getting hand me down win98 pcs from family and trying to gta3 to run on them

@davoexile666

Жыл бұрын

I'm almost 41 - it makes me feel really old. 😭😭. Titanic's in better shape than me. 🤣

@techtime3125

Жыл бұрын

For me it is the present and I am 13 year old cuz I am on a fycking 2009 mac

I REALLY wish you guys could have put more RAM back in because I am absolutely certain that all that hitching you were experiencing was from your memory being maxed out and running into pagefile swapping. I bet you could have had an actually pretty solid experience on this rig with 4GB alone, nevermind 8. Also, 2.9Ghz is a breeze for this chip! My Q6600 ran at 3.6Ghz no problem! This thing should have been overclocked to at least that much, which would have had a massive impact on performance. Come on guys, this was almost such a cool video, do a revisit and do it justice next time!

Man that takes me back, I had that exact cooler on my first PC as well.

This shows just how well the RE engine is optimized! Great job Capcom.

@cletusthefetus23

Жыл бұрын

@@QUINTIX256 I might be wrong but the compiler probably takes care of it, some sort of fallback mechanism, if enabled. At the cost of performance.

@perfectopubg7320

Жыл бұрын

huh?

@perfectopubg7320

Жыл бұрын

explain more

@zakixbox

Жыл бұрын

@@perfectopubg7320 RE engine is a modern game renderer and one of rare engines that manage to run games reasonably well on a very old Intel CPU and that's alone shows how great it's well optimized!

@darkl3ad3r

Жыл бұрын

Has nothing to do with the engine. These games run at 60 fps on base last gen consoles. It's not difficult to understand that a 60 fps game on a base PS4, which is essentially an underpowered laptop from 2012, would run actually okay on a high end PC processor from 2007. If these guys paired more RAM with the system and overclocked the CPU, the game would legit look and run better than it does on a PS4 Pro.

I had the core 2 duo in one of my PCs. Solid unit for a long time. Until games started to really use the 4 cores, it was great.

@annonymousghostdetector8425

3 ай бұрын

still i guess core 2 duo can be good if you pair it with gtx 1080ti

This is just silly, but I love that it actually worked! It's surprising how well older hardware can run with "newer" GPUs. I paired an AMD X4 I got for free with a 1050-Ti and it served me well for a couple of years, wasn't exactly fast but for most games it was playable if you lowered the quality to medium. Also the fact you don't know what an ISA slot is makes me feel incredibly old.

amazing cpu the q9550, was my first pc 4 years ago, overclocked it to a 3.43ghz and was pretty solid lmao. kenshi was solid aslong as you gave it time to render the new zones

2:23 that case is from the 90s. In the late 2000s, it would've been black with better airflow, like the Antec 900. Maybe static LEDs.

@tw1tch09

Жыл бұрын

it would have been an alienware knockoff with a blue static LED and maaaayybe a clear plastic sidepanel. And maybe even a DVD burner and media drive! lmao

@honzaplachy5040

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree, such case in late 2000s, looks like pc ready for landfill, even in former eastblock country where I live.

@MarcoGPUtuber

Жыл бұрын

@@honzaplachy5040 Oh don't write off old PCs just yet. Many old games do not work on Windows 10. Once they go to the landfill, they don't come back.

@e36blur

Жыл бұрын

I actually still have my e8500 dual core antec 900, with 8800gt. Kinda tempted to get it running

@stemdeckesupreme164

Жыл бұрын

Ah yes, early 2000s wannabe matrix/bass fishing sunglass aesthetic.... Similar to early 2020 graphics card aesthetics for some godforsaken reason

I'm currently running a Core 2 Quad Q9650 with 8GB DDR3 Ram, G41 Asus Mobo, and a GTX 1650 Super in my Plex Server. Works like a champ! haha. This was the CPU that got me back into PC gaming and building In 2016 when I went for a super budget build so I have a soft spot for it. Still rocking it in a media PC to keep the legend going 😁👌 Awesome Video!

@goregejones7248

Жыл бұрын

Still bottlenecks your GPU , C2 quad even bottlenecks gt 1030

@caturlifelive

Жыл бұрын

@@goregejones7248 what the meaning of bottleneck?

@korana6308

Жыл бұрын

How much did you spend on it? I wouldnt pay more than a 100$ including the GPU. 50$ should be tops for such system.

@goregejones7248

Жыл бұрын

@@caturlifelive it means cpu not cable for example , if you have a GTX 1650 GPU , and a i3 10100f your getting 120 fps , but if you play that Same game with same GPU but a old cpu like core 2 quad you will only get 40 fps that is called bottleneck

@HondaHatchek

Жыл бұрын

@@korana6308 all together around $300. It also has a 500gb ssd, 4tb business class hdd, custom case, lights, usb 3.0 card, AC1200 Wifi card and 650 w gold rated evga psu. It was built as a passion project. The Q9650 was the CPU that got me back into building PC's and PC gaming. So the Plex Server was a homage to it haha! It works flawlessly.

still have the q6600 and zalman 9700 cooler with a gigabyte p35 ds3r in my old pc in my closet from along time ago. Thing was a beast once you did an oc to 3ghz with stock voltage. Was awesome for the time.

i am actually surprised by the result. I used to being able to play every AAA game 10 years ago with the cheapest processor (like a 40$ amd one) and a good gpu for the time (5850). Things changed i guess

Q6600 G0 @ 4GHz on a custom water loop was my jam back in the very late 2000's - great machine. Can't be bothered for all the custom cooling now but it was a great machine.

I'm still rocking my 2009 PC with a X58 LGA 1366 platform. I run a Xeon 5675 cpu overclocked at 4.5ghz and a 1070Ti. A 1Tb 980 pro Nvme m.2 ssd mounted on PCie. 24gb of DDr3 ram running at 2100mhz. And 5 USB 3.2 outletz via PCie too. Don't throw away your old rigs! They can still rock today!

My first was Pentium II, Athlon x2, then Core 2 Duo E8400 such a good cpu and ended up with 2500K 4.5 OC for 11 years, man it's gonna be hella of an update jumpin to 13600K can't wait. 2500K Sandy Bridge was ahead of it's time.

Core 2 anything and Windows 7 were highly desired by CAD draftsman at the engineering firm I worked for in 09. We were stuck with Pentium 4 machines on XP from 2003. The 08 downturn made new PCs unobtainium for us, for years. Next machine for me was a I5-2500k in 2011. I still use that beast with a 1080TI.

I’m actually surprised the C2Q still did as well as it did 🤯🤩. I personally had the C2Q Q6600 and overclocked it to 3.4Ghz 🥰👍 with negligible effort …..a quick FSB O/C and a manually input cpu multiplier 🫠🤯🤩 …. Those were the good old days!!!

@moukthikvishnubhatla1408

Жыл бұрын

cut it with the emojis

@interlace84

Жыл бұрын

Same here, ran it at 3.2 since the 400mhz fsb synced up nicely with the ram and had a ton of longevity out of it. Turned it back on a year or so back just to mess around, turns out it could've handled 3.7 like a champ all along

@virtualtools_3021

Жыл бұрын

q9550 with 3.85ghz oc with 1066 cl5 was a beast

@lain328

Жыл бұрын

I used to use a C2Q 771 mod Xeon at 3.4GHz DDR3 and a GTX 970 & 1080 just a year ago. (OC @ 4GHz, but hot) Play all my games 1080p no problem. Only upgrade as some games I played and looking to play needed newer instruction sets.

@elephant1851

Жыл бұрын

Everyone seems to be ignoring the fact that he is using only 2gb of ram when THAT is the real reason it sucked! This is not a real test, it's just a joke!

That was fun! You'll do a lot better with a quad core. I've done all of these experiments in the past and had similar results but not with a 3090ti!

Did almost exact this (Q6600 though) and 3060TI during the GPU shortage of last year. I refused to start my new build until i had a GPU in my hands so when i finally got the 3060TI, i put it into my old system. Ran fine but only marginally better performance than my old radeon HD 6950 (ofc due to PCIE 2,0 and severe cpu bottlenecking)

The black slots are old expansion slots. I had an sound card connected into it. I think it is also not plug and play.

This video is what happens when you blow 99% of your budget on the GPU

I'm sure someone already posted this in the chat, but the black slot at the bottom of the older motherboard is called an ISA slot (Industry Standard Architecture). Those specific slots are 16-bit ISA slots. They were prevalent on much older systems from the 80s and 90s, and fell off in the 2000's.

I had a Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz OCed to 3.6 GHz with a Zalman CNPS10X Performa on a locked multiplier motherboard simply with FSB until 2016. The motherboard was a transitionary model that had both DDR2 and DDR3 RAM slots. With 8GB of DDR3 1800MHz I managed to run pretty much any game except for the most CPU intensive ones. CSGO was running great as well.

I had the core 2 duo on my old xp machine and it was a freaking beast for what I was using it for (minimal games and cod bops) it was powerful for it

I have a storage server with a xeon x3210 (server version of a c2q) and I'm impressed at how well it still holds up. web browsing and other basic tasks are still totally doable. it almost shames my purchase of a 5900x

@HappyBeezerStudios

Жыл бұрын

I'm watching this on a X5460, yes, they can totally hold up for stuff outside of AAA gaming.

6:44 that's an ISA slot (Industry Standard Architecture), formerly known as PC bus or AT bus depending on the bus width (8 or 16 bit). It has a throughput of 8 or 16 MB/s. Oof. first family-shared computer in the house had those, Packard Bell... windows 98.

Weird problem you have. I'm still using some core 2 quad for gaming sometimes. All missing instructions set are emulated so no problem starting anything. I'm getting good framerate on most games, mine is a bit overclocked. Maybe yours install was missing some soft, it would explain the lack of instructions emulation and low framerate

In my reserve backup PC still I have a Q9500 CPU. Connected with a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3 motherboard (more modern rev. 2.0) with the newest BIOS, and a 6GB (DDR2) of a Kingston HyperX memory - 2x2GB (800MHz CL5) and 2x1GB (1066MHz CL5). GPU there it's a 2GB EVGA GTX 560 SuperClocked. Sometime I use this PC to run older games that run only under Windows XP or Windows 7...

The Intel Q6600 was my very first CPU I used to build a PC… fun times!

man i ran a qx9770 core2extreme for years after the i series came out; it even outperformed the first gen i7-970 in gaming, and was on par with the second gen i7s with just a mild overclock. this just brings me so far back.

@markokojicic

Жыл бұрын

Dude a second gen i7 is way faster than any Core 2 CPU, it's not even close...

@HappyBeezerStudios

Жыл бұрын

the big difference between the core 2 and behalten was basically the frontend. integrated memory controller and such. But yes, my Core 2 Xeon performs about 60-80% of my Ivy i5, depending on the task. I could totally see it performing on par with a locked 2nd gen i7 in single threaded tasks. But then there hasn't happened that much over the last decade.

This experience nearly was my every day reality until March 2023. I used an i7 3930K with a ASUS Rampage IV Extreme, 32GB of RAM and at first a GTX980 later with a RTX3090 (non Ti) - but this was by far better than your system - although its centre parts were nearly 11 years old! I was able to run Cyberpunk (even with the GTX980, without RT of course) with quite nice details. After that I updaded to a 13th gen i9 more RAM M.2-SSD and all that stuff - now the bottleneck is the RTX3090...

I'm running a Q9650 to this day and have it overclocked to 3.6ghz per core. Does anything I want and in testing loads it's windows 10 faster, shuts it down faster and opens large programs faster, than any 4'th+ gen i-anything.

That motherboard and CPU inside the case are treasures.

I just revamped my old core 2 quad Q8300 build from 2008 or 9. Paired it with a GTX 770 2GB which surprisingly runs pretty well after downclocking it slightly so it isnt bottlenecked by the CPU, and threw a SATA 256GB SSD, and 1.5TB HDD in there, 8GB of ram that I overclocked to 1033MHz, and a USB 3.0 PCIE Card so I have both the USB 3.0 Case USB ports working at 3.0 and the USB 3.0, SD card, and ESATA bay I put in there. Runs Doom 2016 max settings smooth 71FPS 1080P on my 75HZ ASUS monitor I had laying in my basement. It's surprisingly a fast little system for how old it is. It runs and looks modern, you'd never know that its old. It even plays games like GTA5 on high settings 1080P and gets 60 FPS, and I even got Rust running at like 50 on medium 1080P. Very respectable performance. I'm downloading Fortnite next to see if it'll run that (I know it will but i wanna see the FPS.)

@HappyBeezerStudios

Жыл бұрын

Doom 2016 should run fine even with a stronger card than a 770, my quad is running on ,4.1 GHz and paired with a 660 ti and basically always GPU limited.

That is a mainboard issue. I did it on a GA-EP45-UD3R and it works like a charm. I think the PCie on the MB you are using is not functioning 16X pcie2

Ooohhh, I remember being torn between Intel's q9550 and AMD's 1055t for my first custom build. I went with the 1055t. And I went with the same cooler. I still have then today. Are you saying it is not compatible with am5? I was hoping that since it was compatible with am4 and am4 coolers are compatible with am5, this would still work with am5.

6:34 ISA slots, 16bit ISA slots to be exact. That goes back to the 1980s during the DOS days. Now I feel old.. thanks Bretthost.

I have a core 2 quad 9650. Overclocked at 3.51 GHz. And I bought a GTX 1660 super. But it didn't work. Mono Asus pg41tm - lx3. I returned the card. What went wrong?

I still have a Core 2 Quad kicking around. And that same Zalman cooler.

Wow, that mystery connector is ISA, a connector that dates back to the original IBM PC.

Would love to see a follow up with a Pentium 4 2.26Ghz + ASUS P4DG1, as far as I know, that's as old as you can get with PCIE support (20 and a half years old!)

My first pc I built was a core 2 duo 6750 Conroe 2.66ghz 4mb l2 cache, 775 socket in 2007 Fried my motherboard and Cpu somehow in 2010, then got a core 2 quad 8300. What a blast from a past.

Putting a new gpu like that should have been producing problems with legacy bios of the mobo? I've got the need to replace my video card on my Asus p5qse equipped with the Intel Core Due E8500 (2008) with a new Asus Gt1030 2mb DDR5. Could it work?

my first pc was actually using a q8300 and it was letting me play games up to far cry4 though not the best experience i had, had it for years so it made me all the more certain i wanted to use pc as my primary gaming platform eventially getting a 4th gen core from intel which i just recently upgraded from to a 5800x

From my experience trying to squeeze the last bit of performance from a core2 quad the main walls I hit is always memory controller related. Both capacity and speed.

@HappyBeezerStudios

Жыл бұрын

On my rig the limit was the 800 Corsair value ram, that wouldn't do more than 946. Still enough to go to 4.25 ghz with a 9× multiplier. If I take that out and run only the 1000er crucial I could go to 4.5 with my duo or 4.75 with my quad. Clocks neither will be able to reach without crazy voltage. The biggest mistake people nowadays make when they build a machine of that time is going with cheap G31 or G41 motherboards. Any decent P35, X38, P45 or X48 board should be able to do at least 450 FSB, and 500 aren't impossible either. At some point I have to try and see how high my board will go, 473 FSB was already stable, but the highest the ram would do.

that slot is called ISA, it's in fact older than PCI, and was used for expansion, including graphics and sound cards, and also even for industrial equipment, which is the reason why is still used in some industries, which is also why some weird new motherboards have it even while supporting new cpus like intel ones

The Core 2 Quad supports DDR3 and PCI Express 3.0. You should retest it on a newer motherboard.

@elephant1851

Жыл бұрын

Yes.. and maybe use more than 2gb of ram.. like wtf is he even testing?!

You should try this with a DDR3 Motherboard, it should help with the textures loading issue, also you could try modifying .ini files on the games that didn’t run so they wont check for newer instructions on the cpu. However all and all great video.

you should've pushed 4k, hilariously higher resolutions are a way to squeeze extra life out of an old system, I just retired my fx8350 this month after 12 years of gaming because the upper limit of my bottleneck was an r9 fury x, if I used my 5700xt @4k I might've been able to keep it going but it was time for an upgrade. but an old Quad core can still run w10 just fine.

6:52 it's ISA slot, predecessor of PCI. I had them in my 386 and even on Pentium motherboard (combined with PCI).

when over locking was still fun. stuff goes over the FSB, but the memory also sits on it, and at high clocks that will be the limiting factor. A Q9550 should easily go beyond 4 GHz, but for that 1000er ram is basically a requirement. Or well, manually tweaking ram timings and voltages. I'd go with games until around 2016, they should have no issues with instruction extensions like AVX

Those are epic processors! I still have 2 gaming rigs with a Q9550 which I use for games which don't need AVX. One is build on a motherboard type Asus P5K which has DDR2 and a 1050Ti and the other is a Dell Optiplex 3080 which has DDR3 and a low profile Nvidia T600. Both systems still perform very good in 1080P compared to my i5-9600k with a 3060 in it. The one with DDR3 does have less stutters in some games and also is used for video editing in Pinnacle studio and Adobe Premiere. Heck I prefere that system above my dual Xeon E5-2650V4 workstation which is much to loud and power hungry compared to the time advantage in rendering and video editing tasks. If you disable spectre & meltdown in the registry you will notice an improvement (security issue though).

@HappyBeezerStudios

Жыл бұрын

Got a X5460 on 4.1 GHz with a GTX 660 ti and 8 gigs DDR2 here. still a beast considering it's age. And now I have to check what the most modern game is that still runs on it.

Should have got a DDR3 board for better comparison, the RAM will hold it back quite a bit tbh! And you have never seen an ISA slot before? :O

@silvy7394

Жыл бұрын

You knew he wasnt that smart when he looked straight at what looked like a Pentium 2 MMX badge and proceeded to say the PC was probably from the late 2000's

Watching this on a Core 2 Quad Q9400 + GTX650! Hope to buy new system is not getting closer with the exchange rate though.

im sure someone has told you by now but that connector you were wondering about is called IDE, it was how hard drives were conneccted before SATA.

Industry Standard Architecture (ISA) is the 16-bit internal bus of IBM PC/AT and similar computers based on the Intel 80286 and its immediate successors during the 1980s. The bus was (largely) backward compatible with the 8-bit bus of the 8088-based IBM PC, including the IBM PC/XT as well as IBM PC compatibles. Originally referred to as the PC bus (8-bit) or AT bus (16-bit), it was also termed I/O Channel by IBM. The ISA term was coined as a retronym by competing PC-clone manufacturers in the late 1980s or early 1990s as a reaction to IBM attempts to replace the AT-bus with its new and incompatible Micro Channel architecture. The 16-bit ISA bus was also used with 32-bit processors for several years. An attempt to extend it to 32 bits, called Extended Industry Standard Architecture (EISA), was not very successful, however. Later buses such as VESA Local Bus and PCI were used instead, often along with ISA slots on the same mainboard. Derivatives of the AT bus structure were and still are used in ATA/IDE, the PCMCIA standard, Compact Flash, the PC/104 bus, and internally within Super I/O chips.

I would like to see this idea revisited, I know there were late model motherboards that supported ddr3, and now im curious if there would be any uptick from changing out to ddr3.

@ptoatowidnowoso

Ай бұрын

i use the same core 2 quad q6600 and 16gb of ddr3 memory, 4x4gb sadly i don't have a 3090 Ti, but i don't think it will make any significant change

the black slot is isa :) in old days we used to plug in sound cards with build in amplifire

Still rocking a Core2Quad Q9650 here on my daily driver. No chance with the games as I'm using the integrated graphics.

Socket 1366 hexacores are still kicking ass. Triple channel memory keeps it surprisingly relevant. Also, the throughput thing doesn't matter for gaming (3080ti's dont even fully sturate the bandwidth of pcie 2.0 x16 while gaming)

@dallysinghson5569

Жыл бұрын

Still rocking a 1366 mobo, the i7 920 chip upgraded to x5650 which I bought for 10 bux XD

@formdoggie5

Жыл бұрын

@@dallysinghson5569 hell yeah. Got mine to a 4.9 all core stable and its been rock solid for a decade. If it ever dies, I bout two more for 20 bucks lol

i think the issues is the AVX instruction sets , my 2008 Quad Core Xeon was doing just fine until Apex legends....I had to get a newer CPU Because New Games Want AVX capable CPUs ,I Believe Its the way Large games are compressed and stream in assets ,they require AVX for the CPU the crunch math more efficiently

@tim3172

Жыл бұрын

10000;, some games have allowances for less-efficient instructions for fallbacks but most abandoned the best versions available to this gen of C2Q.

The slow ram issue might not be just the ram but, that the system is using the pagefile which would be slower even on a newer system. Should try it with the other stick, and make sure the slots are paired.

Just the video I had to see. I'm still running on core2quad (soon to be Ryzen 9 5900x) and recently my Radeon HD5870 died, so I'm building myself a new pc. The first thing that I already have in my possesion is an RTX 3080 ti. I'm gonna have to do a bit of case cutting, since I got myself the EVGA FTW Ultra version and it's too goddamn big, but I'm determined to do it tomorrow and try it out while waiting for the rest of my new build to be delivered. Fun times!

LOL ISA slots confound Brett. That was what there was before there was PCI. No, not PCI-E. PCI. There was also EISA slots as well. They look like APG slots. Remember them?

The core 2 quad isn't so bad as what's presented here, the 3090ti might just be too new to work with a non uefi bios. I think rx 400 and nvidia 10 and maybe 20 series were last to work with it. I had a problem getting the radeon drivers to install properly with a similar system and an rx550, apparently the legacy bios was the cause.

@Danielle_1234

Жыл бұрын

It's because he was using 2GB of ram. The CPU was not the limiting factor.

@HappyBeezerStudios

Жыл бұрын

As soon as I'm putting together my next upgrade I'll give my 1060 a spin in my core 2 rig. Should be interesting to see how much it can keep up with.

ok im confused xD been searching for one but there are hundreds from nividia, msi, gigabyte etc. are they all the same ones? or is there a difference?

My backup pc is spare parts with a 3060 in it. Qx6850 @ 4ghz, 8gb ddr3 @ 2000, evga 680i sli board. Still works and solid!

When you actually have the exact same CPU with a GTX 750 Ti...

Next video : Core i9-13900ks and GTX 480

@ethan56123

Ай бұрын

Gtx 480s a terrible gpu

@itamarowak

Ай бұрын

​@@ethan56123that's the point

@dav1dtron

Ай бұрын

No too new of a card. i9-14900k and GTX 260

@undefinedCat

Ай бұрын

@@dav1dtron what about with voodoo 3? (idk about connecting)

@playtech7165

Ай бұрын

No, it's not a good idea since the GeForce 256 was AGP, and the first GeForce PCIe was the GF 6800 Ultra if my memory serves me right.

i spotted the keychron keyboard behind you there, good choice haha :D

bro makes it look like the open ceiling and the dangling insulation is part of his setup, I didn't notice for a while

I have a Q9300 Core 2 Quad (Yorkfield) with maximum 8GB DDR2 RAM 1066 (dual channel) and it's still going strong after all these years. It was my first Intel based PC after having been on the Athlon XP, and then Athlon 64 platform since the early 2000s. I don't game on it anymore, but it makes a great home (bedroom) media PC and doubles as a NAS, with 9TB worth of HDDs in a drive pool, but it boots from an SATA SSD, using Win10. I only have a GTX 550 ti, but it can drive a 1080p monitor just fine for Prime Video, Spotify, KZread, Twitch, Netflix, and local video and audio files. Though it does stutter on occasion in Netflix (only netflix) even installing a GTX 980 didn't fix that problem. My other PCs and devices have no stuttering on Netflix.

@mixit2413

Жыл бұрын

I had a E5200 overclocked to 4.5ghz with 8Gb ram it still works but it sitting in the cupboard under the stairs the my GTX 265 Black i ran this machine until 2015 when it was replaced by a FX8350 and 16gb ram and a 1050ti, I now have a 5600 with 32gb ram and a 6600xt.

@huldu

Жыл бұрын

I have a Q8400 that I've had for many, many years and it still runs great. I used to have it together with a hd7970 but it stopped working a few years back so put in a gtx 680. It runs everything fine. I've played many modern games on this computer with varying performance(obviously). I don't generally play AAA games since they don't appeal to me so I'm sure few of them wouldn't even work. I've played witcher 3 and it worked fine. This computer also runs satisfactory just fine. It works so never really felt the need to upgrade anything and I don't really game that much nowadays anyway.

That 100% CPU to 31% GPU was the apex moment for that processor lol.

My first gaming pc I brought had a core 2 quad q6600, battlefield 2 days 😎

The first computer I ever disassembled and rebuilt, had an AMD K6-2 350 CPU... How is that for old?

Average prebuild PC:

I remember when these were the best processors you could get!

Late 2000s, man that case is from the late 90's early 2000s. Core 2 Quads we had black cases. I think there was even premodded cases at that time. Around the Athlon XP days there were silver cases and a lot of quick swap HDD bays haha.

i have an e7400 and a q6600 stashed away myself. i cant bring myself to get rid of em. so many summer nights spent playing games and listening to grooveshark on those things.

This was awesome! What an abomination of a build LOL! I love it.

My PC that I replaced earlier this year was nearly identical to your spec. Mine was an Intel Q9450 OC's to 3.2Ghz, on a ZALMAN CNPS9500 LED, 8 Gig Corsair DDR2 Ram @ 1066, Asus P5Q and a NVIDIA 750Ti. Its still running till this day but is incapable because lack of AVX2 and SSE4 so i had to move on. Still it served me very well. Impressed by Zalman coolers too as mine is 13 years old and the fan is still the original with zero issues.

@HappyBeezerStudios

Жыл бұрын

wait, that should do SSE4.1

@4kpoison784

Жыл бұрын

DDR 2 exist?

@banshee10000

Жыл бұрын

@@4kpoison784 Yup, way back about ~16 years ago that was the thing. You also got PC3200 or DDR400 which was used in PC's around ~20 years ago. Ran that on my AMD 3200+ back in the day.

@4kpoison784

Жыл бұрын

@@banshee10000 ddr 2 is older than me

@4kpoison784

Жыл бұрын

@@banshee10000 oh

would have seen better results if you were to enable hardware accelerated GPU scheduling to take some load off of the CPU

Haha, your test bench is still going strong as my GF's HTPC. And your Zalman was my first DIY cooler too, in '04 if memeory servers, when dual Opteron was king & not that expensive.

The definition of "bottle neck"

I've never known what it really feels like to feel old until someone points to an ISA slot and asks what it is.../cry Also, the next time someone says the CPU doesnt matter for games, this video is being shared :)

Those black slots are ISA slots, Industries Standard Architecture, they were for cards like 33.6 K modem and sound cards, 8bits mostly

@6:50 THAT SLOT IS AGP (ACCELERATED GRAPHICS PORT) USED FOR GRAPHICS IN OLDER DAYS .