RTS Tactical Active Shooter Kit w/ Level IV Ceramic Body Armor Test

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We go over the RTS Tactical active shooter kit with 2x Level IV ceramic armor plates and carrier, discuss their features, then test out the plates to see what they can and can't handle 😎
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  • @O3GFY
    @O3GFY3 жыл бұрын

    Tabs are for the pelvic soft armor "dangler" it was a mil issue item circa '05-'07ish. More of a groin protector used to stop ied shrapnel

  • @jeremyknop5378

    @jeremyknop5378

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you said it cause I was just about to post a comment saying that. But yeah those ied's fucked up a lot of guys over in Iraq and in Afghanistan. I know the military also explored other options like kevlar woven boxer shorts before settling on the ol groin guard.

  • @59232

    @59232

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jeremyknop5378 I wore a Kevlar diaper

  • @96kylar
    @96kylar3 жыл бұрын

    My guy can destroy plates, and websites at the same time. Multi-talented.

  • @isoplus3513

    @isoplus3513

    3 жыл бұрын

    lol

  • @Minuteman4Jesus
    @Minuteman4Jesus3 жыл бұрын

    I bought this exact armor 18 months ago, minus the speed pouch. I've been pretty happy with it so far and looking forward to this armor test!

  • @ShaneABaker
    @ShaneABaker3 жыл бұрын

    Tabs are to hang crouch padding to help catch shrapnel from explosions, that way it doesn't rip into your groin

  • @letstalkcaliber704
    @letstalkcaliber7043 жыл бұрын

    I got a set of these. Very thick but the weight is great and they really cover a lot. Impressed with that carrier. Might pick up a full set soon to have as a backup.

  • @daves8098
    @daves80983 жыл бұрын

    I've had my rts rog for a year or so now. Train every week in it. It has held up so far. Good proce for what you get

  • @josephcrook9921
    @josephcrook99213 жыл бұрын

    Smashed up compromised ceramic and it held up very well. I think I'll be replacing my AR500 lvl 3+ plates with these. 2 pound lighter per plate and more protection. Great video.

  • @Eroc556
    @Eroc5563 жыл бұрын

    Awesome test and awesome setup! Thank you for all you do Sir! Best gun channel on the tube period!!!!

  • @ringingsteel8729
    @ringingsteel87293 жыл бұрын

    “The us made ak is doing ok” Next shot malfunctions* Things always go wrong after saying the opposite for some reason.

  • @ak_tyler4236

    @ak_tyler4236

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was thinking the same thing 😂

  • @Mrgunsngear

    @Mrgunsngear

    3 жыл бұрын

    announcer jinx

  • @the_chomper

    @the_chomper

    3 жыл бұрын

    i was just going to put this down and BAM first comment. psa... JUNK!

  • @nathanielradtke7590

    @nathanielradtke7590

    3 жыл бұрын

    It malfunctioned the first time at 9:25ish and at the second time.

  • @shawnsanders9450

    @shawnsanders9450

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@the_chomper yep, and now I'm going to go and delete my comment. Lol

  • @Chinyai
    @Chinyai3 жыл бұрын

    Great video on armor. Hope to see a lot more of these informative videos. Keep em coming Mr. GnG

  • @stugant220
    @stugant2203 жыл бұрын

    Same armor setup I bought. I never shot at it so good to know it lives up to its rating. Definitely good quality.

  • @criordan5437
    @criordan54373 жыл бұрын

    Glad to see this video, bought mine about 6 months ago with a different carrier. RTS took about 2 months to complete order BTW.

  • @vanillagorilla8197
    @vanillagorilla81973 жыл бұрын

    Ordered mine on the 9 the waiting for it to arrive....think it's a great value.....AWESOME CONTENT AS ALWAYS..... THANKS BROTHER

  • @Mrgunsngear

    @Mrgunsngear

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome 👍🏽

  • @SeamusMacMattain

    @SeamusMacMattain

    3 жыл бұрын

    I ordered mine 9/19 and still waiting on it to get delivered

  • @pilotguy1141
    @pilotguy11413 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the heads up no problem getting in the website ordered myself one

  • @phambelton1
    @phambelton13 жыл бұрын

    Awesome. Made my day. Mine should arrive in the next two weeks. Thanks much.

  • @steveleon2627

    @steveleon2627

    3 жыл бұрын

    Has it arrived yet???

  • @jsmiley12
    @jsmiley123 жыл бұрын

    Just got my RTS Lvl IV and am impressed for such a cost effective price point!

  • @thatoneguy454c
    @thatoneguy454c3 жыл бұрын

    The tabs inside are for hooking up a belly protector plate set up. At least that is what they are for on my plate carrier, and they look the same.

  • @FullNelson007
    @FullNelson0072 жыл бұрын

    I purchased one earlier this year.. no side plates but wish I had them now so go ahead and spend the extra and get them they are a great advantage when in combat. I've never been in any but from tons of research like he said in the video lots of guys eas shot thru the side. Over all the carrier fits great. I'm a medium shirt and ordered the same in the carriers and it fits absolutely perfect! Lots of room for adjustments to be made for wearing without shirt or with a big winter jacket. Don't hesitate to get one. EDIT: after one hit from any of these rounds I don't think your going to want to keep standing around waiting for another one to come. Just a note to remember.

  • @tarantulathree-one8013
    @tarantulathree-one80133 жыл бұрын

    The tabs are there so you can hook on Kevlar like groin protection or the base of your spine. Looks like a similar layout in comparison to the IOTV and the Solder Plate Carrier System.

  • @ferebeefamily
    @ferebeefamily3 жыл бұрын

    Great test. Thank you Mike.

  • @blah007001
    @blah0070013 жыл бұрын

    Those tabs on the inside look like they're supposed to attach a groin protector and buttflap.

  • @MrLuxuryYacht

    @MrLuxuryYacht

    3 жыл бұрын

    Definitely, same as issued iotv/iba, good call

  • @Chefian23

    @Chefian23

    3 жыл бұрын

    Correct

  • @ColeDedhand
    @ColeDedhand3 жыл бұрын

    You broke the RTS website.

  • @AbelCompanyArms

    @AbelCompanyArms

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dude says armor in stock, everyone freaks out 🤣🤣🤣

  • @paulramey3973

    @paulramey3973

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just bought one!!!

  • @Machi74005

    @Machi74005

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@paulramey3973 Did they tell you when it would ship? I ordered in early January and was told 2nd week of February...well here we are and NO product and the charge card bill is due in 2 days. I called 2 days ago and now they are saying 3rd week of March.

  • @wilsonrawlin8547

    @wilsonrawlin8547

    3 жыл бұрын

    Been waiting almost 60 days and no plates. Charged my card less than a week after I ordered my set. NOT GOOD.

  • @wilsonrawlin8547

    @wilsonrawlin8547

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Machi74005 Good luck. I was charged less than a week after I ordered and it has been two months. Called and dude said "yeah you'll get them in a couple weeks. STILL WAITING. RTS website says "delivered". UPS tracker has changed THREE times on when they will arrive.

  • @team_character
    @team_character3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Mike for another great Test!

  • @williammccaslin8527
    @williammccaslin85273 жыл бұрын

    Mike, I just fell in love with your, "03" Thx for the vid.

  • @Bsquared1972
    @Bsquared19723 жыл бұрын

    Great test, nice looking kit!

  • @reliablethreat23
    @reliablethreat233 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video as always!

  • @raulherrera6674
    @raulherrera66743 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video and very good channel. Thank you.

  • @matthewk8605
    @matthewk86053 жыл бұрын

    Just ordered mine. Official level IV or no; you beat the snot out of it and it held up. Respectable price and almost most importantly in stock! Says 30 day lead time with COVID but even if that’s worse case it’s sooner than anywhere else I’ve seen

  • @GrassRoots-fp4ty
    @GrassRoots-fp4ty3 жыл бұрын

    Mr. G&G. When I think about my needs for armor, I always consider 5.56 and 7.62×39. But, this makes me consider my needs may also look like 6.5, .243, .270, 7mm rem mag and so on. Great video, and certainly things to consider for me and what my needs might actually be.

  • @fivex4756

    @fivex4756

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agree. There are who knows now many 7mag bolt guns out there in addition to the others . I have two "AR-10" in 243win , in my area 243win ammo is still available and reasonable price in addition to my reloads.

  • @JoshG5110
    @JoshG51103 жыл бұрын

    Good info. Thank you Sir!

  • @dirktucker77
    @dirktucker773 жыл бұрын

    I Ordered it up. Looks like it might take a few weeks, but so is everyone else. Thanks Mike!

  • @Machi74005

    @Machi74005

    3 жыл бұрын

    Did you finally get product?

  • @TheTonyTitan
    @TheTonyTitan3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for these armor vids

  • @coolstuff_.
    @coolstuff_.3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the well thought out and executed test on this kit. I was hoping someone would do exactly what you did. From my research I thought RTS Tactical won the best value proposition for body armor so I placed my order. So glad I did but from my experience, expect the wait and with no updates or shipping notifications which I can live with. 6/11 I ordered this kit. 7/27 30-business days since order. 8/1 Package arrived UPS ground. LUV IT! RTS Tactical - Shut up and take my stimulus check!

  • @mlyness100
    @mlyness1003 жыл бұрын

    Looks like a decent quality carrier and plate setup within in my price range. I’ll be checking this out for sure

  • @iHipHopVEVO

    @iHipHopVEVO

    2 жыл бұрын

    Is there any better options? Regardless of the price

  • @KaneGregory
    @KaneGregory3 жыл бұрын

    Finally a plate carrier that’s not confusing and looks like it’s easy to use!🤯🔫👍🏽

  • @kordstovall5044
    @kordstovall50442 жыл бұрын

    The two inner loops are for adding a groin Kevlar to protect your nuts from shrapnel. I believe they have full pelvic girdles you can attach as well. Looks something like EOD technician gear.

  • @RonniePadgett2
    @RonniePadgett23 жыл бұрын

    Seems like a good deal on the armor. Thanks for the test and great channel. I do miss the dogs!!

  • @boltactive
    @boltactive3 жыл бұрын

    Oh ok looks like another at 13:15. Hollow points will get you sometimes. Great review brother. Keep it up

  • @SctyGrpPowers
    @SctyGrpPowers3 жыл бұрын

    Great review!!

  • @TheNinjamansam
    @TheNinjamansam3 жыл бұрын

    Pontoon systems hook into the interior loops, as well as nut guards

  • @childsrp
    @childsrp3 жыл бұрын

    I love what he did with the Facebook logo at the end of the video. Very fitting!

  • @tlrinc2343
    @tlrinc23433 жыл бұрын

    Looks like a good setup and a good price. The sparks were cool from the bullets hitting it

  • @americanpatriotbill
    @americanpatriotbill3 жыл бұрын

    Great video man, that took a beating

  • @gabe281409
    @gabe2814093 жыл бұрын

    I order from them and I waited almost 3 months to get my order. I emailed and called every other week just to be told it was shipping out the following week. Buy at your own risk.

  • @TonyB851

    @TonyB851

    3 жыл бұрын

    Seems like a lot of companies are doing the same thing with "in stock" items that aren't actually in stock, just listed that way to convince people to buy from them and wait in line rather than getting something else.

  • @Machi74005

    @Machi74005

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am in the same boat. Told me 6 weeks ago I would get order this week now they are telling me March. This sucks.

  • @FullNelson007

    @FullNelson007

    2 жыл бұрын

    I ordered and received mine within 2 weeks or less. No problem at all. I'm pretty sure around the time you ordered the carriers (fedx,ups) was way behind. Not the company.

  • @lucasbradshaw2545
    @lucasbradshaw25453 жыл бұрын

    I've been waiting for you to review the rts line.. I thought it was too cheap to be good. Buying now!

  • @jellocity708
    @jellocity7083 жыл бұрын

    Awsome video, great info

  • @LYFPingBot
    @LYFPingBot3 жыл бұрын

    thanks for all the great content

  • @Mrgunsngear

    @Mrgunsngear

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoy it!

  • @johnpreisler6713
    @johnpreisler67133 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. I enjoyed that.

  • @tom2gunzbombadil689
    @tom2gunzbombadil6892 жыл бұрын

    Pretty pumped.. mine actually came in today. Trying it own watching the video lol

  • @Texas-Goodspeed
    @Texas-Goodspeed3 жыл бұрын

    Appreciate y’all from Texas ^^

  • @joe_davis_
    @joe_davis_3 жыл бұрын

    it’s now black friday and theyre running a “sale” for 20$ more than what they were a month ago...lol

  • @MilSlim
    @MilSlim6 ай бұрын

    Awesome video👍 I myself have an RTS setup in my collection. Another thing to keep in mind is that he’s 12 feet away. That plate would do really well at 100 yards.

  • @MrDpboggs

    @MrDpboggs

    5 ай бұрын

    This is what I was thinking too

  • @heinrichnitschke5485
    @heinrichnitschke54853 жыл бұрын

    Coming out of my Springfield 1903.... barrel length...."We got plenty" 😂😂😂😂 If I ever start a barrel manufacturing company that gonna be my motto.

  • @tangodown2721
    @tangodown27213 жыл бұрын

    Out of the budget plates you've tested which ones do you prefer? You have the most comprehensive list of tested armor so far on KZread.

  • @BanjoZZZ
    @BanjoZZZ3 жыл бұрын

    The thought of rifles just reminded me to buy SWBI (Smith and Wesson) stock this month. A stay in Miller V. Becerra will instantly sell thousands of M&P15s in California!

  • @timbutler3213
    @timbutler32133 жыл бұрын

    I love how you keep busting out all these cool guns/rifles. You make it so nonchalant but for a guy who doesn't have much it's cool to see you just whip out different rifles.

  • @garym51124

    @garym51124

    3 жыл бұрын

    What you may lack in guns....looks like you make up for it in over 300lbs of mastiffs lol i believe

  • @BuffRANGE
    @BuffRANGE3 жыл бұрын

    Just FYI there's still a .75" foam strip that goes to the edge of the RTS plate. The ceramic doesn't extend to the edge of the plate :D

  • @shawnbalch6046

    @shawnbalch6046

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just FYI....armor is supposed to protect vital organs, so if you're shoot you don't die instantly, or within a specific time period.

  • @BuffRANGE

    @BuffRANGE

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@shawnbalch6046 and with a .75” Foam edge this provides 3” less vital coverage :)

  • @madbroindustries

    @madbroindustries

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BuffRANGE damn i didnt know it was 3" shittttt

  • @fieldmarshalbaltimore1329

    @fieldmarshalbaltimore1329

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wtf. Why do companies do that

  • @fieldmarshalbaltimore1329

    @fieldmarshalbaltimore1329

    2 жыл бұрын

    In this vid he said it went all the way to the edge?

  • 3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!!

  • @brentparks3669
    @brentparks36693 жыл бұрын

    Well I’m sold! That’s exactly what armor is supposed to do, give you a second chance in a firefight.

  • @clarkkent4991
    @clarkkent49913 жыл бұрын

    Lol. He said, “Just the tip” 😂. Good content.

  • @Mrgunsngear

    @Mrgunsngear

    3 жыл бұрын

    😅

  • @alexxxdagrrreat

    @alexxxdagrrreat

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol "just the tip" !!!

  • @clarkkent4991

    @clarkkent4991

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Jim Dean 😝😂

  • @err1c991

    @err1c991

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tactical Johnny Sins

  • @SnerMerNer

    @SnerMerNer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Huhuhuhu

  • @libertarianGO
    @libertarianGO3 жыл бұрын

    Those tabs are for nut protection and lower spinal protection. You hook them in there and they dangle down.

  • @Drakkmar13
    @Drakkmar133 жыл бұрын

    The loops on the inside are probably for attaching a groin protector. The Marines call them Ladder Locks.

  • @ohyeahwhat5387
    @ohyeahwhat53873 жыл бұрын

    Got mine with the steel plates. They delivered in 3 weeks.

  • @akulatacticalreview9718
    @akulatacticalreview97183 жыл бұрын

    Those tabs on the underside of the plate carrier is for the groin protection insert

  • @scottgrossman9080
    @scottgrossman90803 жыл бұрын

    Maybe those tabs on rear or for a pouch like a joey pouch that hangs but would have to be propietary to that specific carrier J.S who knows great vid!!!

  • @Kenzierose93
    @Kenzierose933 жыл бұрын

    That AK wanted to show you up.

  • @AntwonDaBusiness

    @AntwonDaBusiness

    3 жыл бұрын

    I noticed it too. Malfunctioned right after say “it’s still doing ok” haha.

  • @laytonaschauer3675
    @laytonaschauer36753 жыл бұрын

    I see the gold chain big pimpin! But on a real note I’d like to see a test where you leave some armor in the trunk of a car in the heat for a month or two and then light it up!

  • @ch4osaeternum74
    @ch4osaeternum743 жыл бұрын

    I was thinking about getting into building body armor as a side gig with tye demand we have. I got the Ar500 plates I can use to laminate fibers and I could very easily make atleast a level 2 or 3 equivalent.

  • @EskimoJoe907
    @EskimoJoe9073 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @samuelgray7122
    @samuelgray71223 жыл бұрын

    I believe those two loops are to add the groin protection ballistic pad

  • @briandreiling6944
    @briandreiling69443 жыл бұрын

    I’d love to see a video shooting through a level III soft armor back with proper gelatin to see how much the rounds get slowed down.

  • @thatrealba
    @thatrealba3 жыл бұрын

    Oooooh I want some 1913 molle! That's gotta be super awesome high speed.

  • @jed9615
    @jed96153 жыл бұрын

    Great video brother...even for an AF guy! Just kidding, love from SF retired. As always keep walking with our KING!!

  • @SteelCityIceBirds
    @SteelCityIceBirds3 жыл бұрын

    Patiently awaiting for that IWI Zion review. Seems like a good package somewhere between budget and midteir.

  • @Mrgunsngear

    @Mrgunsngear

    3 жыл бұрын

    stay tuned

  • @CoryHobbs2178

    @CoryHobbs2178

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Mrgunsngear I would really like to know if their barrel is dimpled on the Zion

  • @mrmidnight32
    @mrmidnight323 жыл бұрын

    I was about to say having a load port on the bottom of the rig is stupid. Those buttons and Velcro wear out over time. Strong or not. But seeing those straps to hold the plates in place is nice. I kinda like that.

  • @CaveWyatt
    @CaveWyatt3 жыл бұрын

    They do look good in the reviews. And they do say to allow a 30 day lead time for orders. I ordered mine 9/14 so they might want to change that to “at least 30 days”. I don’t really blame them, demand must be ridiculous.

  • @DocScalawag
    @DocScalawag2 жыл бұрын

    I just bought some RTS armor. I wish I had seen this video first. I still would have bought it, but I would have been stressing a little less while I did so. It appears I will get my money’s worth.

  • @timyurkovich2412
    @timyurkovich24123 жыл бұрын

    Very good video. Informative and helpful.. Keep them cranking, Sincerely, Pittsburgh shooter

  • @russ7022
    @russ70224 ай бұрын

    I got some plates in 2024. Ordered and delivered in a week.

  • @CableGula
    @CableGula3 жыл бұрын

    That 30-06 was current commercial pressure loading or was it the throttled back variety for Curio firearms?(I.E Remington’s M1Garand loading) Not that I’d like to take a hit from either.

  • @jerryjohnsonii4181
    @jerryjohnsonii41813 жыл бұрын

    Wow , very impressive Body Armor !!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @CoryHobbs2178
    @CoryHobbs21783 жыл бұрын

    I got the Botach level 4 plus side plates after seeing MrGunsNGear and BUFFMAN Range test it, but I'm half tempted to buy a second set of these

  • @BuffRANGE

    @BuffRANGE

    3 жыл бұрын

    You won't be disappointed with this plate. I tested it today. I need to edit the results :D

  • @samtaylor7800

    @samtaylor7800

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BuffRANGE so where is the video i didnt get a nitification if you published it yet? Thx

  • @BuffRANGE

    @BuffRANGE

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@samtaylor7800 I have to edit it this weekend. :)

  • @mediocrefloridaman
    @mediocrefloridaman3 жыл бұрын

    Ordered mine Nov 28th and its here today on Dec 23rd! You can't beat that with an expected 2 month wait. 1 month is a lot better than 2 months. Don't worry about their worst case scenario timeframe. Go for it!

  • @guardianminifarm8005
    @guardianminifarm80053 жыл бұрын

    Outstanding!

  • @fourthhorseman4531
    @fourthhorseman4531 Жыл бұрын

    That Springfield '03 is suhweeet!

  • @los8389
    @los83893 жыл бұрын

    I'm Impressed...

  • @AtomkeySinclair
    @AtomkeySinclair3 жыл бұрын

    11:30 We're stepping it up - laughed out loud.

  • @bigoz7
    @bigoz73 жыл бұрын

    Those tabs are usually for attaching your groin protector.

  • @Samcanplaymusic
    @Samcanplaymusic Жыл бұрын

    This is the PC I have. Honestly, it's pretty solid.

  • @jimmyhunt4361
    @jimmyhunt43613 жыл бұрын

    Inside Webbing tabs are Attachment points for Groin & Butt drop protection armor

  • @kpmccreery
    @kpmccreery3 жыл бұрын

    Ordered mine today. Carrier with side plates included $229

  • @armysgtrandom3555
    @armysgtrandom35553 жыл бұрын

    Tabs should be for a groin protector kinda like the modern IOTV we use in the army now

  • @Mrgunsngear

    @Mrgunsngear

    3 жыл бұрын

    RTS just messaged me they're for comms FWIW.

  • @50calkiller
    @50calkiller3 жыл бұрын

    Can you start using balloons to check spalling and fragmentation when testing body armor?

  • @phambelton1

    @phambelton1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Excellent suggestion

  • @lorrainemartinelli6291
    @lorrainemartinelli62913 жыл бұрын

    Hey, hope you and the family are staying safe. Curious if you have heard of Skarr ceramic plates and if so do you have any opinion on their efficacy. That and would using level 3a soft body armor behind the level 4 ceramic plates as truama pads and how much added protection that would be. Thanks in advance to you, thank you for your service and if anyone else wants to chime in on this particular question it would be greatly appreciated.

  • @JayM1989
    @JayM19893 жыл бұрын

    Cant believe you haven't gone over 500k subs yet. Come on people

  • @TheSecurityCamChannel
    @TheSecurityCamChannel3 жыл бұрын

    Cool t-shirt!

  • @Z_BoyPanduh
    @Z_BoyPanduh3 жыл бұрын

    Those tabs are to keep wires in place when your run them through your vest

  • @tonyhagarman9970
    @tonyhagarman99703 жыл бұрын

    Damn , the sound of the action on that ak was louder than the shot lol

  • @codyfowler5898
    @codyfowler58983 жыл бұрын

    Couldn’t you must cut the excess off the shoulder strap adjustments after you set it up or would it mess up the carrier

  • @Mr.Mikey.Holiday
    @Mr.Mikey.Holiday2 жыл бұрын

    Old video but those tabs on the inside of the front is to affix nut armor, like i had on my mtv in the marines. On the rear its to carry an oldschool but pack like what they had in the 90s and pretty useless to have assuming the front and rear plate bags are manufactured the same prior to assembly.

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