RPG Retro Review: Tower of Zenopus

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Let's go back to 1977 and take a look at the sample dungeon champion of the world, 'The Tower of Zenopus' from the Holmes Basic Set of Dungeons and Dragons.
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  • @paulprecour3636
    @paulprecour36364 жыл бұрын

    Ah yes, 1978. The year that graph paper started disappearing at an alarming rate from the Science/Math storage closets in High Schools across the Country for some mysterious and unforeseen reason.

  • @denofearthundertheeverlast5138

    @denofearthundertheeverlast5138

    4 жыл бұрын

    Spoken like a true Rogue with a lock pick set.

  • @captcorajus

    @captcorajus

    4 жыл бұрын

    My affinity for the magic of graph paper began with this dungeon. The 2nd level of Zenopus's lair was the very first dungeon I ever self created.

  • @brooksrownd2275

    @brooksrownd2275

    4 жыл бұрын

    I used to visit Nelson's Office Supply at the mall regularly to purchase large format and extra-fine ruled graph papers.

  • @WMTPromoter

    @WMTPromoter

    4 жыл бұрын

    Truth be told I still use graph paper to this day to write down notes. Guess I got used to it! -_-

  • @RPGmodsFan

    @RPGmodsFan

    4 жыл бұрын

    LOL, Guilty as charged. :-)

  • @Argonova
    @Argonova4 жыл бұрын

    This was the box set that introduced me to Dungeons and Dragons as a child. It's been over 20+ years since I even glanced at this module, but I still remember all of the rooms as you describe them!

  • @captcorajus

    @captcorajus

    4 жыл бұрын

    It was a charming starter Dungeon. Its a real shame that TSR/ WOTC drifted away from it.

  • @DerekLippold
    @DerekLippold3 жыл бұрын

    I love this format where you go through the adventure describing what happens and different ways you’d run it

  • @torenatkinson5708
    @torenatkinson57085 ай бұрын

    6:24 the entrance/stairs 7:22 goblins in room A (working for the thaumaturgist?) 8:10 giant spider in room J ... plus small mimic! 9:40 sarcophagus room with rat tunnels, skeletons, floating dagger 10:20 coffins and ghouls in room P 10:50 Room B - skeletons in the niches 11:15 Gloomy Room G - with giant rats 11:25 F a thaumaturgist has charmed a fighter + petrified victims 12:06 Spiral staircase leads up to trap door plus giant snake! An angry ape is further up 12:47 D the nexus... a demon statue pointing to the characters...a puzzle 13:20 H - a river runs through it 13:30 L a giant crab 13:45 I - a sundial and a bronze mask "I'll answer questions, one no more, I'll not speak til it be four" 15:07 a series of caves ...pirates and smugglers. Lamunda the Lovely, a potential ally. Plus a giant octopus

  • @captcorajus

    @captcorajus

    5 ай бұрын

    Oh wow! very nice, thank you!

  • @trollson66
    @trollson664 жыл бұрын

    The Holmes blue book was my first D&D. Took it on a week long geography high school trip (the week Pope JP2 was shot), and played the dungeon with friends, and bemused onlookers (the "girls" - mostly Susans). The highlight was the party befriending wandering Gnomes, but then physically throwing them into rooms to find out what lay beyond. We didn't know what we were doing, or how to play "properly" - but it was incredible fun, memorable, and had the girls in hysterics.

  • @richmcgee434

    @richmcgee434

    4 жыл бұрын

    "...mostly Susans" That was a dang popular name in that generation wasn't it? Seemed like they were everywhere back in high school and college.

  • @dr.winstonsmith

    @dr.winstonsmith

    4 жыл бұрын

    The time before smartphones and social media. The scene you describe could probably never happen today with the onlookers of yore being consumed today by their screens. Glad I grew up back in the day.

  • @RPGmodsFan
    @RPGmodsFan4 жыл бұрын

    Love your miniatures setup of the Tower of Zenopus. This Adventure was also the first Dungeon I ever DM'ed. :-)

  • @captcorajus

    @captcorajus

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. This was my first DMing experience as well. I got this after Moldvey Basic came out by mistake actually. I liked the cover art better, and it said 'D&D' Basic set on it, so, i thought it was the same. lol. The good part was that none of my friends had that boxed set, and i could run the dungeon in the back which I loved. I know I've started a new campaign with this adventure at least a half a dozen times, and its always gone off very well.

  • @WMTPromoter
    @WMTPromoter4 жыл бұрын

    My first DnD session I encountered was one I sat in on was in 1979: White Plume Mountain. My first book I read shortly after was the Greyhawk supplement (published in 1975). Shortly after I was able to get my hands on my first work - the famous blue box basic set. In it was the Tower of Zenopus - meaning my first module I read from a semi-DM perspective was this one. My first adventure I went through? What else? B1 - In Search of the Unknown. (I still remember Quasqueton fondly after all these years.) So this is a treat to revisit. ^^

  • @torenatkinson5708
    @torenatkinson57085 ай бұрын

    11:35 - finally ran this for my group. In room F I had the petrified sailors all facing the direction of the secret door, which instigated the PCs to search there, successfully. It was night, so the room was empty. They went to the snake room, where the elf put the snake to sleep and the paladin performed coup de grace - but he yelled when he did it, and so when they went up to the kitchen level of the thaumaturge tower, he and the charmed veteran were waiting, and stuck the paladin in the face. The trap door was shut and they parleyed. To be continued next session

  • @swirvinbirds1971
    @swirvinbirds19714 жыл бұрын

    A new upload by Seth and the Captain tonight.... Watching the Captain 1st. 😎

  • @captcorajus

    @captcorajus

    4 жыл бұрын

    Oo, cool, I'm running over to Seth's channel! lol

  • @tomknapp6194
    @tomknapp61944 жыл бұрын

    This was my first introduction to Dnd. It didn't come with dice, but numbered chits that needed to be cut up and put in a cup. To get a random number, we would blindly pick one out. I hated that so much and felt so relieve when we got our first set of dice.

  • @namelessjedi2242
    @namelessjedi22424 жыл бұрын

    I didn’t start with the Holmes Basic set but I have come to appreciate the sample dungeon. It’s truly the best little dungeon map published. So much variety all within a few pages. Great layout too.

  • @demcrusher7086
    @demcrusher708610 ай бұрын

    You have all the best toys cap!!

  • @stephenclements6158
    @stephenclements61584 жыл бұрын

    I just ran my group through an adaptation of this, and it proved a serious challenge. The way I played up the spider from NPC descriptions and flavor text of the room had them TERRIFIED of the thing. All told, they probably spent a full hour strategizing about how to fight the thing, and in the end it got away through an air tunnel I put in the roof. In the tombs, I put the ancient skeletons of lizard people and cat people that definitely added an impenetrable mystery that my players enjoyed as they tried to divine why these different people were buried together and what civilization they came from. In an empty room near the wizard's statue room, I placed a mirrored trap chamber where if a PC entered, the door would slam shut and the sound of cicadas would herald the arrival of Zargon! The monster would grab the PC and pull them through the mirror to a volcanic hellscape and there flay them until they hit 1 HP, and then drop them back into the room, where the party (if they had been trying to save their friend in the locked room) would have 1 last chance to rescue the tortured soul before Zargon could claim them forever!

  • @mlfetlesjdrenbref1306
    @mlfetlesjdrenbref13064 жыл бұрын

    Bravo Cap! Awesome stuff as usual. Thanks you for the fine work you are doing and keep'em coming.

  • @andrewhaldenby4949
    @andrewhaldenby4949 Жыл бұрын

    Going to run this for a player new to rpgs next week

  • @SirMillz
    @SirMillz4 жыл бұрын

    I ran through this as a solo play without a DM. I always roll for wandering monsters and treasure on the rooms labeled E and for wandering monsters in unlabeled corridors.

  • @russellharrell2747
    @russellharrell27474 жыл бұрын

    So many wizards have names beginning with Z or X, it might be a tradition to change ones’ name on becoming an apprentice.

  • @briancool7557

    @briancool7557

    4 жыл бұрын

    And then there was...Tim the Enchanter from Monty Python's Holy Grail

  • @edwardspaghetti473
    @edwardspaghetti4734 жыл бұрын

    Awesome man! Love the Hirst Arts pictures with this one!

  • @roberttreble2690
    @roberttreble26904 жыл бұрын

    This has been one of your best video you have done to date. Very enjoyable!

  • @captcorajus

    @captcorajus

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it!

  • @keithdonohue4631
    @keithdonohue46314 жыл бұрын

    Amazing! Another great video. I'm running The Ghosts of Saltmarsh, right now, and I can't wait for my players to venture outside of town and follow my clues to that mysterious ruined tower...

  • @captcorajus

    @captcorajus

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I thought that was awesome that they included that. Post back and let me know how it goes!!

  • @TheMadRRConductor
    @TheMadRRConductor4 жыл бұрын

    Hey I just saw the guy from the zenopus archives, he's finally got his 5e conversion for this now available on DMs guild.

  • @captcorajus

    @captcorajus

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yep, I got it. :)

  • @charlesbaker7866
    @charlesbaker78664 жыл бұрын

    Really good stuff, thank you for making these awesome videos!

  • @Johnny_Nitro
    @Johnny_Nitro4 жыл бұрын

    Love the vid Cap. Still waiting for that Dragonlance review. 👍

  • @captcorajus

    @captcorajus

    4 жыл бұрын

    lol, that's going to be awhile. But definitely happening. :)

  • @toddrohrer8680
    @toddrohrer86804 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for making this video it was my first adventure and I have meny great memories of it

  • @danielramsey6141
    @danielramsey61414 жыл бұрын

    Holy Crap! Your on a roll with these videos man :)

  • @captcorajus

    @captcorajus

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm trying! :)

  • @danielramsey6141

    @danielramsey6141

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@captcorajus Yes you are sir. And we Thank you for that :)

  • @Jeremy_Fisher
    @Jeremy_Fisher4 жыл бұрын

    Really interesting stuff. Thanks Cap'n!

  • @AgoodITguy
    @AgoodITguy4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot, im preparing to run this dungeon in my homebrew

  • @rickeymariu1
    @rickeymariu14 жыл бұрын

    I really love videos like this.

  • @richmcgee434
    @richmcgee4344 жыл бұрын

    I could recognize the map from the thumbnail. Man, that's nostalgic.

  • @yvindheilo229
    @yvindheilo2294 жыл бұрын

    Another one? Thanks a lot Captain!

  • @worldbigfootcentral3933
    @worldbigfootcentral39334 жыл бұрын

    100th like! Love your channel, but i'm older than dirt. Not that brown dirt mind you, but the deep rich dirt thats the color of coffee grounds. In fact, there are a lot of hills that weren't around when i was a sprout, and a bunch of buildings that aren't around anymore. More people though. It's a lot easier to envision that long viewpoint of elves and dragons now though, lol. Keep up the great work!

  • @captcorajus

    @captcorajus

    4 жыл бұрын

    lol, great comment, made me chuckle. Thank you for the 100th like!!

  • @johnharrison2086
    @johnharrison20864 жыл бұрын

    Great review! Will there be one for the group adventure dungeon in the 1983 Red Box Set?

  • @toddpickens
    @toddpickens3 жыл бұрын

    I don't have the original tower of this module is in, but thanks to your video channel and Zach Howard's efforts, I'm preparing to run this as the third adventure and first real dungeon crawl in an ongoing campaign. One of the things I've been looking for is what was the original suggested reason that the players are going to explore the tower and dungeon below?

  • @gommechops
    @gommechops2 жыл бұрын

    Yup, definitely lots of potential here to thread into my campaign. Might even link those pirates up to those in Saltmarsh.

  • @captcorajus

    @captcorajus

    2 жыл бұрын

    Interesting, the tower of Zenopus Ruins are in the 5E version of Saltmarsh.

  • @gommechops

    @gommechops

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@captcorajus Oh that is funny, I tried running the original saltmarsh for my players a while back and it just failed to take off. So I have been keeping an eye out for another route in, this just seemed to have possibilities for that. It would be a slightly different reason for the party to get involved, but on the plus side it is a different groups of adventurers and half the players are new too.

  • @raknai
    @raknai3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting how we can see elements that later would be translated to videogames.

  • @paulprecour3636
    @paulprecour36364 жыл бұрын

    Damn, how I do miss the magic of the 'Blue Box'. Mine didn't come with dice, just cardstock chits you had to cut out and shuffle upside down on the table.

  • @WMTPromoter

    @WMTPromoter

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ayup - I remember that. And it did work to be fair, but I preferred the dice method, of course. Fortunately my friends down the street had an extra set of dice for me. XD

  • @captcorajus

    @captcorajus

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@WMTPromoter Yes, I still have my boxed set, the chits remain, uncut. :)

  • @veng3r663
    @veng3r6634 жыл бұрын

    I never even heard of THIS old module before...

  • @donaldflowers8180
    @donaldflowers81804 жыл бұрын

    Still loving your retro reviews man. Do you think you will be doing a review on Eberron? Especially with the release of the 5E campaign setting book?

  • @captcorajus

    @captcorajus

    4 жыл бұрын

    hard to say. I've never actually played in an Eberron game or run one either, though I love the mix of pulp and fantasy with it. So, I certainly am interested in it. MY schedule right now is just reviewing old TSR releases and CURRENT old school material. I haven't done a 5E review in a while, and those are popular as well, so.. as soon as i can manage to get to it,.. we'll see. :)

  • @jefffeller1446
    @jefffeller14464 жыл бұрын

    Hey Captain! Big fan of your show!! It’s a very well done series and I thank you for sharing your talents. I just started revisiting these old adventures myself, and sometimes I think I don’t always understand the logistics of some of these dungeons. So I thought I’d ask an expert like yourself a question I had about this Zenopus mini-module.... since the S1 room is at ground level and has an exit to the street, couldn’t characters just enter from there? And if so, how could there be anything remaining in those rooms if people have been looting the place from such an easy entrance? I’m sure I’m missing something but I’d love to hear your take on that.

  • @captcorajus

    @captcorajus

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ah, yes. This old chestnut. This is handily explained at the Zenopus Archives website maintained by the great Zach Howard, but let me summarize here for you (As briefly as I'm able. lol) What's not entirely clear is the S tower is NOT Zenopus's tower. This is new construction and the private residence of the Thurmaturgist encountered initially in room F. Theoretically, one could absolutely enter the Dungeon through S1, though as the initial entrance this seems unlikely because the PCs would not know of its existence. Later on, after the possibilities with the Thurmaturgist are exhausted, Entry to the lower dungeons from this point is not only possible but highly likely. In my own games, the PCs claimed the Magic-User's residence as theirs after his demise at their hands, using it as a base of operations for further excursions into the lower levels of the Dungeon. The example dungeon does not answer what happened to Zenopus, or what caused his demise, and that is left entirely to the imagination of the DM. The map sections to the north dead ends to the north past the rat tunnels and to the west... and most certainly there's a secret passage there that leads to the lower levels of the dungeon... where one might find: the ruins of a pre human city... maybe eldar things, or some other Lovecraftian style race, catacombs of undead, and of course Zenopus's lost experimental laboratories where the final fate of the mad wizard might be uncovered. The possibilities are only limited by your imagination. Game on!

  • @jefffeller1446

    @jefffeller1446

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for your elaborate reply sir! I appreciate that you took my question seriously and your input and suggestions are awesome! I think my favorite thing about your videos is how you encourage DMs to embellish these modules and make them your own. Watching your channel always makes me want to play. Looking forward to more from the Captain!!

  • @manofaction1807
    @manofaction180710 ай бұрын

    Back in the day when D6- D 8 HP's were what you got. No more, no less...

  • @darcyw156
    @darcyw1564 жыл бұрын

    Dammit, every time you review something I want to run my players through it. The list is getting very long now. Thanks for the video, and keep it up!

  • @tomtom7955
    @tomtom79554 жыл бұрын

    whats the difference between a graveyard and a cemetery? why would 1 town have both? i noticed them on the town map...

  • @fried2styles
    @fried2styles Жыл бұрын

    Love this dungeon from long ago, but I never liked the pirates bit -- seemed out of character for fantasy. Replaced it with a giant fungus forest like on the cover of B1! LOL

  • @captcorajus

    @captcorajus

    Жыл бұрын

    That's cool. Make it your own! But... but.. I love pirates tho... lol

  • @michaelreynolds5145
    @michaelreynolds51453 жыл бұрын

    couldn't find the blue map on the paratime site

  • @captcorajus

    @captcorajus

    3 жыл бұрын

    paratime.ca/images/fantasy/zenopus-dungeon-b.jpg

  • @michaelreynolds5145

    @michaelreynolds5145

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@captcorajus thanks so much! love your videos

  • @s0niKu
    @s0niKu Жыл бұрын

    I never quite understood why the adventurers would enter the dungeon through the stairs down into the labyrinth when there's apparently a very good door in the tower sitting right there by the town - apparently reduced to rubble in the backstory but clearly still standing! An incredibly odd detail.

  • @captcorajus

    @captcorajus

    Жыл бұрын

    Its a bit confusing at first, but that door is not part of Zenopus's tower. That 'tower door' is part of the Thaumaturgist's private residence in town. which is also a small tower. So.. no one would know about it until they explore the dungeon. Hope that clears it up for you.

  • @s0niKu

    @s0niKu

    Жыл бұрын

    @@captcorajus It does, although it certainly doesn't seem to be spelled out explicitly in the book. I can't see any such explanation in my copy, but it's as good an explanation as any!

  • @captcorajus

    @captcorajus

    Жыл бұрын

    @@s0niKu It doesn't explicitly say it in the text, which is why a lot of people get confused on that point. You're not the first person to be confused by that, and its actually a topic of discussion on Zenopus Archives. But when you realize that with the 'tower' S, S1, S2, the 'Magician' the text is referring to is the Thaumatergist from room F, it suddenly makes complete sense.

  • @fried2styles

    @fried2styles

    Жыл бұрын

    I always thought the same thing! LOL if so, the scenario should have the PCs meet the Thaumaturgist sometime BEFORE the encounter, so it can be a surprise.

  • @willmistretta
    @willmistretta2 жыл бұрын

    Just out of curiosity, how long do you find the typical full delve of this dungeon takes a group?

  • @captcorajus

    @captcorajus

    2 жыл бұрын

    Usually two sessions of about 4 t o 5 hours in length.

  • @willmistretta

    @willmistretta

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@captcorajus Good to know! Thanks!

  • @LailokenScathach
    @LailokenScathach4 жыл бұрын

    Okay, how many of you shouted out "Green Flame" at 03:28? Be honest.

  • @tomyoung8563
    @tomyoung85634 жыл бұрын

    lol I remember that one!

  • @buckveazey3369
    @buckveazey33694 жыл бұрын

    Watching your yawning portal review and see that you're an old military man army here. Keep your head on a swivel my friend

  • @majore2276
    @majore22764 жыл бұрын

    Not sure how to contact you so forgive the public comment: Would you consider doing a review of Advanced Labyrinth Lord?

  • @captcorajus

    @captcorajus

    4 жыл бұрын

    Already have. kzread.info/dash/bejne/inqB0pmPoNudlLQ.html

  • @majore2276

    @majore2276

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@captcorajus Awesome! Now get some sleep. Unless you live on the other side of the planet it was O'dark thirty when you responded. :)

  • @raymondlugo9960

    @raymondlugo9960

    4 жыл бұрын

    I check for new content every day I love the blog so much. It's how I found this video.

  • @cb-nz
    @cb-nz4 жыл бұрын

    4:26 Green Dragon in, Hobbiton, Matmata? Check... I see what you did there Cap :-)

  • @captcorajus

    @captcorajus

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, you got it! :) Good eye!

  • @davidwright7193

    @davidwright7193

    4 жыл бұрын

    I thought the green dragon was at bywater not hobbiton...

  • @captcorajus

    @captcorajus

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@davidwright7193 Well, the Green Dragon Inn for Holmes's dungeon was at Portown. However, the Green Dragon Inn was also in Hobbiton. :) The set from Lord of the Rings in New Zealand is now a movie tour, and that's the picture I used in my video. :)

  • @davidwright7193

    @davidwright7193

    4 жыл бұрын

    captcorajus The boozer in hobbiton is the Ivy Bush as frequented by the Gaffer (chapter 1) the Green Dragon is at bywater a fair stagger on a dark night from hobbiton which is why it attracts a younger crowd (and the miller who we must assume lives at bywater) (chapter 2). The Golden Perch is at Stock.

  • @captcorajus

    @captcorajus

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@davidwright7193 That may be true, but I was refering to the movie set in New Zealand which has it in Hobbiton, which is where the picture in the video comes from. :)

  • @marcusmcgill5306
    @marcusmcgill53064 жыл бұрын

    Pirates? Oh ya!

  • @charlieb308
    @charlieb3083 жыл бұрын

    Why would an ape be in...

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