It may be primitive, it may just be a toob, but that primitive toob has done alot of work for the British army and it's allies.

@landonhall4875

3 күн бұрын

Don’t forget the grease toob

@revenantchild

3 күн бұрын

@@landonhall4875 Ah yes, the M3 Grease Gun forty-five caliber never sounded so good. Cost effective and still very viable.

@DJWeapon8

3 күн бұрын

​@@revenantchildTOOBs make, pound-for-pound, some of the best combat SMGs.

@redmist6630

3 күн бұрын

me talking about my beautiful pipe bombs that the judge described as "improvised" explosives

The Sten's the perfect ecample of "good enough for government work". It NEVER would have been accepted in peacetime, but, in the mud, blood, and, filth of combat, it was cheap, quick to manufacture, and, it went "BANG" when you pulled the trigger.

@Darwinist

3 күн бұрын

It was also perfect for sending to Resistance outfits on the continent, since it was *so* compact when disassembled, it could be hidden basically anywhere and the ammunition it used was also being used by the Germans.

How Brandon gets his MG's are one of two ways: Option 1.) He buys them outright. Anyone with the funds and an extensive background check can purchase automatic weapons made before the 1986 NFA ban. It essentially limited all autos in the country to those that existed at the time. These guns are called "Transferables." This is by far the more expensive option as "cheap" automatics still run for around $10-15k minimum. Your more desirable weapons will be tens of thousands more. Option 2.) He builds them. Brandon and/or his company has a type of license called an SOT, or Special Occupational Taxpayer. It allows his company to, among other things, build "post-sample" machine guns from widely available (and quite cheap) parts kits, as well as other NFA items like suppressors or making a short barreled rifle/shotgun. Excepting the military or law enforcement, the MG's that an SOT builds can never be sold or transferred to anyone who isn't also an SOT.

@robertkoonce8365

3 күн бұрын

Not exactly correct. A post sample gun can be sold, but only to another class3 dealer that also has an SOT. This is how the number of post dealer samples doesn't diminish thru attrition. So, if you want to spend the $3k every 3 to 5 years as well as pay the $3k tax stamp price, you too can buy or build just about anything you want to build. Ain't America grand?

@surplus3728

3 күн бұрын

​​​@@robertkoonce8365I feel like I said that in my last sentence, but perhaps it wasn't clear enough. There's plenty of other nuances, of course. The ATF can't have anything be **too** simple now.

@eclipsegst9419

3 күн бұрын

@@robertkoonce8365 Freemen don't ask permission :)

@edm240b9

3 күн бұрын

You’re correct about all of these things. That being said, I’ve seen Sten guns and Reisings go for under $10k. I’ve seen Stens go for $6k-$7k.

@eclipsegst9419

3 күн бұрын

​@@surplus3728 Freemen don't ask permission

He gets all of these through connections in the firearms business as well as a crippling gun broker addiction

I absolutely love the simplicity of the Sten and the Grease Gun. They are very similar and clearly a product of necessity but there is something strangely beautiful about their steam punk vibe.

14:00 because the decision was if you lay flat you wont have the magazine sticking into the ground and you can lay flat with it

@timmooney7528

3 күн бұрын

I think most viewers overlook the prone position probably being the most common shooting position a soldier taking cover would take

@Docktavion

3 күн бұрын

@@timmooney7528too many movies never explore it.

Germans: "Superior German engineering." Brits with Sten and Americans with Greasegun: "He He, toob."

I’ve been able to use a British Sten twice, fun gun! I believe the mag was on the side to make it easy to shoot from a trench? You can set the gun right on the edge and keep your head low. If the mag was at the bottom you’d have to peek up higher to here over the trench. Anyway simple is good. Easier to fix, cheap to make, clever.

The Sten gun was designed to be as simple as possible not just to bring down costs, but to make it so the entire weapon could be made using the most common machining and stamping tools available at the time, so all kinds of metal fabrication shops could crank it out, not just dedicated gunsmithing outfits. This means you can, at least in theory make your own Sten if you have really any machining skills at all and the most rudimentary equipment. Rifling the barrel would be the only thing that would present even a little bit of a challenge.

@md_vandenberg

3 күн бұрын

I've heard that there were blokes in bicycle repair shops making pieces. If someone had technical know-how, they were involved. The very epitome of "For King and Country".

@Anino_Makata

3 күн бұрын

The design and manufacturing of the Sten had only gotten cheaper and simpler to make, too. There were five generations of Sten guns altogether, the Mk. III being the most recognizeable and the one demoed by Brandon here. But the Mk. IV is easily the cheapest, as it was designed and made in-house by a toy company that worked with sheet metal. The Mk. III was cheap because it was made mostly out of scrap cuts from Bren manufacturing, but the Mk. IV was all welded from sheet steel in construction. That model didn't really see action at the front lines, like any of the other Stens. Instead, they were relegated to the Home Guard.

Forgotten Weapons has done deep dive videos on the STEN in general and the various versions of them. STEN stands for Shepherd (Major Reginald V.), Turpin (Harold J.), and ENfield (built in the Enfield factory). Shepherd and Turpin were well known and very experienced gun designers. It was basically getting Mozart and Beethoven to jam together and see what they came up with. The Mk 1 was slightly more complicated, the Mk 3 had a better stock, and the Mk 4 had a wooden stock and forearm, the least numerous and most valuable model. The STEN magazine is super reliable, the basis for the Sterling magazine, Uzi magazine, and inspired other magazines, along with the US M1 Grease gun subgun magazine. There were a few blowback subguns before and during WW1, but a lot of them were meticulously machined which made them really expensive. Basically, you could go to a well stocked DIY store like Lowes, Home Depot, or Tractor Supply Company and buy all the tools and parts you need to build one.

quick fun fact, if you click on a blank space on any video that does write anything when you type, then type the word "awesome", the loading bar will begin to flash

14:15 It was done this way so the shooter could maintain a lower profile when prone.

@tenofprime

3 күн бұрын

That it what it so often not thought of, having an extended magazine can make positioning in combat hard.

From what I have read, the magazine was placed horizontally to allow for it to be more readily rested or braced on something like a vehicle or sandbags. Also to make it easier to fire prone. In practice, this turned out to be rare.

Shooters and collectors bought and brought pallets of them to the US after WW2. A lot of them came over as "parts kits" where they were cut with a torch and sold as scrap (but the barrels were full of gun "scrap". Then they could be shipped to the US, since it was scrap metal at that point. Before 1986, anyone who was 21 years old with no felonies could dig through a pile of parts and put the parts that fit best together like a puzzle, fill out the paperwork for the background check, pay the tax, and get to weldin' and they had a "brand new" STEN gun. After 1986, you can still buy a parts kit and figure out how to make it closed bolt semi-auto only and have a pistol (without a stock or with a brace) or a short barreled rifle unless you had a pipe welded to the barrel to make legally a 16" barrel. After 1986, only licensed machine gun dealers or manufacturers can build a fully functional STEN out of a parts kit or bits and bobs, just like they did when they developed it. :) Even though the supply is constantly dwindling from collectors snatching them up and the guns wearing out beyond repair, STEN guns are still one of the least expensive options to get into the machine gun collecting and shooting sphere, under $10,000 depending on the model and other details. MAC-10's and its derivatives are still sort of affordable, about $12,000 more or less, again, depending on the details. The only reason STEN's aren't worth as much is people have figured out how to make the M-16 "we have at home" using attachments for MAC submachineguns where they can add an upper receiver that takes AR-15 and M-16 upper receivers onto it. It's clunky, but a LOT cheaper than paying over $20,000 for an actual M-16 or legally converted AR-15 from the mid-80's or older. Any new machinegun you see on TV or movies (made after May, 1986), an average person cannot have. Age is NOT just a number. :(

You'll find that Brandon's piss-takes are in direct relation to whether the gun he's using is any good. STEN? 3 piss-takes. The SA80? Fuck, we'd be here all day.

From what I heard, the magazine was put to the side to allow troops to fire prone while remaining lower to the ground.

The correct way to hold the Sten was to grip the barrel sleeve. Holding the magazine caused stress on the magazine catch leading to misalignment of the magazine resulting in stoppages.

If I remember correctly, the US was going to supply the UK with a ton of Thompson SMGs and it was rejected because some ww1 vet General was concerned about the mags hanging off the bottom. Said in trench warfare the mags would get damaged or dirty and could compromise the position of the user (the Thompson was super expensive too)

14:14 the reason the Sten magazine is out of the side is due to it being based off of the Lanchester submachine gun, which was an earlier subgun used by the Royal Navy, but not the Army. The Sten itself is really just a Lanchester subgun with as much stuff stripped off of it to ease manufacture. The Lanchester itself is basically a reversed engineered MP28/II. All three of these weapons have the magazine feeding from the side. The reason the MKII Sten magwell rotates was for better storage and to also create a gun for paratroopers. Before the MKII was the MKI, which had a lot more features on it including a folding foregrip.

My favourite call of duty 2 gun,for no reason

You should watch a video on the MP18 as it is widely considered to be the first submachine gun and predates this one by 20 years. They are very close to each other in operation and construction its kind of wild. It is honestly, one of those weapons of WW1 that if it had been created a year earlier could have changed so much. Both Forgotten Weapons and C&Rsenal have amazing videos on depending on how in depth you want. C&Rsenal has one they shoot by the way.

Still being used in 1957. My father was a RAF armourer. I have a photo of him, in Singapore, having a beer with his Enfield No4 propped up against a tree.

Simplicity is great for a machine gun. Cheaper parts, easier to make, and it has fewer places it can go wrong.

I think the side loading is for the same reason as the bren gun. The idea being that the optimal firing position was prone, and so this in theory meant reloading would be easier.

Also at 11:40, that was just a glitch in the trailer. The Battlefield 1 announcement trailer had a similar glitch with the pump Winchester M1897 Trench Gun clipping into the reciever. It’s not as noticeable, but once you see it, you can’t unsee it.

He does get some from Rock Island armory auctions. Check em out. They have almost anything to choose from. Depends on what is in the auctions. They also have an extensive collection.

Forgotten Weapons has a realy good series of videos of all the sten variants

STEN is great. It had one ask. Firepower, in a hurry, in large quantities, on the cheap and it did that. And it just worked

As for your question about the STENs lasting ability, well, they are still used around the world 80 plus years later. He has one in really decent condition.

The nice thing about the sten was how easy it was to decentralize manufacture. You could have little shops all over a city making different parts taking them to other small shops where they assembled them without having the risk of a massive factory being a "shoot me" sign. The sten was not the most reliable or accurate - it was just "good enough". The Mk 5 was when they started trying to improve the reliability but that wasn't until 44. I'd rather have an M3 "grease gun" over it, and an MP 40 over either. (no thank you to the thompson - that is a heavy mother trucker).

Holding it by Grabbing around the shroud was the proper way to hold the sten as per the British military.

Ian at Forgotten Weapons just did a set of video's on the whole Sten family and all the British issue sub guns.

When in doubt return to toob

I think you are right about the reason for the sideways magazine design, to assist with reliability. I think the Sten is reliable. Any automatic firearm can jam. Clearing a malfunction is just par for the course.

The sten is probably one of the most affordable and accessible guns ever produced we Brit's build millions during the war as did many others including hidden workshop's in german occupied territories with some small scale production in remote areas still being done today. I think the universal love for the sten comes from the fact it never pretended to be anything other than what it was a cheap way to throw lead in your enemies general direction but good enough to get the job done at close range.we were dropping them all over France Belgium Poland ect. While the yanks were dropping the "liberator" pistol and if you want to see just how bad a gun can be check out that abomination not only was it more dangerous to the user than any enemy but it used 45ACP a calibre not available much outside of the US because 'murica I guess.

Toob is simple. Toob needs to make a comeback in British life.

Check out Ian on ForgottenWeapons, he did a series of videos on all the Sten variants, from the MKI to the MKV. He’s even shot a genuine Sten MKII(S). Don’t get me wrong, I like Brandon, but Ian is much better when it comes to learning about the nitty gritty about the history and mechanics of it.

We had Sterlings when I was in the CAF (1980s-1090s). Basically, an upgraded Sten, with better everything. BUT it was still just a tube, with a spring pushing a breech block with a permanent firing pin that didn't retract into a recess. That became a real issue one fine day at the range when a corporal whose name I'll keep quiet, forgot all of his stopage drills. He used a screwdriver to get the stuck 9mm out, but somehow let go of the cocking lever, so the pin hit the primer, and a guy about 20 feet away (YES! He was actually aiming the barrel at us ...) and hit him with one of the luckiest shots I've ever seen. He hit the kid in the hand, and grazed one third of the inside and outside of three fingers. He was reloading mags, and had a weird hold on it that probably saved all three of those fingers. It's hard to explain without a drawing. NOTHING happened to that dumb and incompetent corporal, and the driver got lost trying to get out of the range in CFB Petawawa, so it took hours to get to the base clinic and get transferred to NDMC in Ottawa. A REAL shiatshow... The Sten AND the Sterling were BOTH unsafe weapons...

I heard that one of the specs was that they could be produced by the Underground.

I'm willing to bet that this weapon was the inspiration for the sub2000. It's functionally the same but with a pistol grip and different magazine location

@CharlieFoxtrot128

3 күн бұрын

Probably not specifically. Most sub guns operate from direct blowback, the sten operating mechanism is not unique in anyway

I love using the sten

The Sten's reliability was highly dependent on having consistent ammunition and magazines as well as skilled armourers in theatre to prep them. The armourers would test each gun then adjust the recoil spring by cutting off enough that he gun would cycle reliably with the issued ammo in the prevalent conditions. If the issued ammo was under powered or they hadn't cut enough of the spring the gun could fail to feed but if the spring was too short or the ammo was over filled the breech would open to early causing split casings and all sorts of ejection problems. The early production magazine's often suffered with weak springs due to rushed production and supply issues but mounting the mag sideways made the magazine springs less prone to cause firing issues. The tolerance on the mainspring ajustment was fairly wide but bad ammo combined with extremely cold or hot weather would cause issues.

The Sten was good enough. It worked

Administrative Results has 2 vids where he modernizes the sten and the sterling with mixed results. Also, he really screws with the Brits, so there's that.

You want to see him take the piss? Try the AR-180 video. He leans into The Troubles.

Like the Grease Gun, the Sten's only real problem was its magazines, which were frequently dodgy-AF. Simplicity works, which is why you still find WW2 Sten's fighting in odd places all over the world.

Brandon is a licensed gun dealer. He has a very expensive federal 🔥 arms license, as such he can buy things that are not normally available for purchase. But they love story time, and filming reactions... they have lots of toys any you really should go hang out with them, i would love to watch that stuff.

$11 for a Sten in 1940 would translate to about $240 today.

You sounded like The Joker, when he asked "Where does he get these wonderful toys?"

If he doesn't like the sideways magazine, then don't show him the Aussie Owen Gun 👀

If it won't for the brave, stalwart actions of the French rear guard units holding the beaches at Dunkerque, the entire BEF would have been wiped out before they could have been evacuated.

@arthurhucksake2665

3 күн бұрын

You are correct, of course. The sheer tenacity and bravery of the French military in the face of overwhelming odds in that action is so overlooked that it is criminal- and that's coming from a British guy.

🇬🇧 has the Sten 🇺🇸 has the grease gun

Those shirts are availible still, Bunker Branding is the one that his merch is thru, "the AK guy" along with a bunch of other creators have their merch thru them

5:43 I spy a sneaky 'Joe Medicine Crow' video tab up there. One of the more amazing stories from The War, in my opinion.

It's a fohken chewb, innit?

What I can tell you is that those tee shirts are made by bunker branding Matt and Mere's business that they have built from literally nothing. The shirt designs are by no means cheap and they last a long time with the prints intact I have had one for 2 years now and it's still bright and colorful as it ever was. The best part is there is no tag in the back to drive you nuts. Get in touch with any of them they will respond to you. The nice thing is all the US guntubers support one another and have for years. It's one of the major ways that they have all become so popular. That and the fact that they are all genuine nice people.

I would love to guess that the mag well and ejection port on the side is to reduce malfunction do to junk falling in the action.

Simple but extremely effective, light weight. What more could you ask for?

I had a veteran friend of mine tell me a story where his unit found a stash of weapons in Iraq including one sten with a homebrewd suppressor and a red dot mounted on the suppressor. Lol

You need to check out Brandon's video about the 9mm lutty another iconic British gun

To be fair you only needed the US to save you twice thus far.

If you think the Stens recoil spring is large, check out the MP40s lol. It's, hard to explain like a very long segmented captive needle that goes through almost the entire receiver and through the bolt. It's weird but it's design does mean you feel, practically no recoil when firing it. Seriously if you struggle to fire an MP40 even one handed I'd laugh at you 😂😂

Around four million Stens in various versions were made in the 1940s, making it the second most produced submachine gun of the Second World War, after the Soviet PPSh-41.

Check out his Luty, MP40 and Grease gun vids for more open bolt adventures x

Toob. I love the Sten/Stearling and A1/A3 Grease guns but I'll do you one better OH, you want British pride watch his Luty video. The one made by a crazy diamond who in short said, "fuck parliament for taking our guns watch this shit."

he buys them like everyone else.

Just now realizing the lack of grip.

Great video's dude. I'm not sure if it's the sten or another toob gun, but one of them, you can put a DD battery in the back of it to up the cyclic rate. Brandon or Garand maybe even both have a video of it.

@CharlieFoxtrot128

3 күн бұрын

The Swedish K. Garand thumb and admin have a video on it. Not Brandon

@dannynaylor5485

3 күн бұрын

@@CharlieFoxtrot128 I knew someone would know lol

The Germans made a copy of the Sten copy that had the mag well down instead of on the side.

Look up a channel called "Forgotten Weapons" for a more complete set of videos about the various iterations of the Sten, as well as many other things. --Dan

As the saying goes, necessity is the mother of invention. Wartime needs often creates some "bare minimum" weapon designs. WW II: Sten (UK), M3 (USA), PPSh-41/PPS-43 (USSR), etc. Some functional weapons today >> better weapons years from now. These wartime design sometimes persist for decades in secondary roles.

Toobe

Personally I'd rather have a Sterling than a Sten, but you can't deny how cheap the Sten was to manufacture in volume. Then again, of all the "cheap, stamped" sub guns I think the M2 Grease Gun is my favorite. Simple and cheap to make, simple to operate, relatively rugged, and they literally used them all the way to Desert Storm for tank crews. (Edit: Go watch the _Forgotten Weapons_ video on the M2 and M2A1)

@CharlieFoxtrot128

3 күн бұрын

M3 grease gun, not M2. And the Sterling was the post war replacement for the sten. So yeah everyone would probably take it over the sten.

@tarmaque

3 күн бұрын

@@CharlieFoxtrot128 My mistake. M3. I like the Sterling but you'r right. It's not the same era.

He gets the guns because Mercia.

You should see his video on the AR-180

When you've left all your weapons in France but you still need to tell Herr Hitler where he can stick his good luck flags.

The luty review is a good one he does

If you have the money in the US you can live in a gun friendly state and get auto weapons pretty easily

2:26 Freedom, government surplus, and expendable income

Same basic design as my Tec-9 pistol, with a metal frame rather than polymer. It's cheap and kinda cheesy 80's narco style pistol, but it never misfires.

React to the Indian Navy telefilm please

British had the worst sub machine gun but the best light machine gun of the war. And the best bolt action.

Yo marine you should react to the ballad of Ira Hayes it’s a hell of a story

Counted 4 ❤❤

He gets these guns by having a lot of licenses and spending a lot of money

You must also subscribe To Forgotten Weapons. Brandon's mane is magnificent, but Ian's is top shelf. Oh, and there's lots and lots of guns

Brandon offended by only 3 times. *3* Also if you didn't know, Germany near the end of the war produced sten copycats to equip remaining troops & especially civilian militias. Those subguns are just the sten but with the magazine well at vertical position/pointed downwards; and they take MP-40 magazines

Brandon for congress. FYI he builds guns. He bought the parts kit for the gun from the manufacturer

Yeah, Battle of Britian, but....... Operation Market Garden. Ummmm Dunkirk?

you say how reliable was it ? well the man is shooting a 82 year old gun . That should say how reliable it is lol , And its not a riffle its a smg it fires 9mm not a riffle caliber

3:10 does the name Dunkirk mean anything to you?

Until 1968, anyone could import anything to the US they wanted, minus actual weapons of mass destruction like nukes, chemical agents, and biological agents (but military contractors could). Guns were unregulated on the federal level until 1934. A 12 year old could, and often did, walk into their local pharmacy and walk out with a Colt revolver or even a Colt automatic. A lot of businesses sold anyone a Thompson submachine gun or any number of belt fed machine guns they bought on the surplus market after WW1 or newly manufactured. No mass shootings...in fact the only mass shooting that occurred before the regulations were when the US Cavalry massacred Indians and there was this one crazy guy who set off a timebomb in a school. Of course, the mob did mass shootings, but it was criminals shooting over criminals, they wouldn't have followed gun laws and they didn't follow gun laws when they were passed. During WW2 if it could fit in your duffel bag, you could bring it home, no questions asked. Some guys would mail machine guns, part by part to their homes. That was a violation of the National Firearms Act of 1934, but nobody cared. In 1968, they actually included an Amnesty Period so if you had an unregistered machine gun, you could pay the tax and submit the paperwork and you were legal. A funny thing, part of the NFA was outlawing felons from owning or possessing guns. A felon got a hold of a stolen, brand new M-16, even marked "property of the US gov't" and registered it and because of the wording of the law, he was allowed to legally possess it. Even if he moved to a state that outlawed NFA items (machineguns, short barreled rifles, silencers) he could still possess it because most of those laws have "Grandfather" clauses where if you own something before the law went into effect, you can still keep it. Political stance: Since there were almost 0 mass shootings when you could buy a handgun or even a machinegun at a hardware store or pharmacy, it's obvious criminals are going to commit criminal acts, no matter the laws or punishments if they get caught. Why bother with gun laws? If you could make the world perfect by signing a piece of paper, "Because I say so", no one would be fat, addicted to drugs, steal things, or kill people any more. Making it harder for law abiding people to get guns to defend themselves or their property makes it easier for criminals to keep on stealing and killing. Decent people armed with guns tends to stabilize society more than a bunch of laws, history has proven that out.

He only took the piss out of the British thrice, but also took the piss out of the French once, so doesn't that negate one of the British jabs?

Where?? It’s AMERICA… we can get anything. Hell, even flamethrowers! $259-$300 for an AR mounted flame thrower.

react to more videos on hinduism

I hate the grease gun because it is trash. I love the Sten because it is trash. Not sure how square that circle but this is just my opinion. Maybe I hate the grease gun because it isn't a Thompson but then why don't I hate the Sten because it isn't a Sterling? This will keep me up at night..... lol

Was this live streamed?

I liked call of duty for the campaigns and I bought every single one for it’s campaign… but Vanguard sucked so bad that quit playing games

does that shirt seem oddly... educational??? i cant see and i cant enhance the image so comments section release the dogs of simp

You were pushed all the way back to your island and couldn’t leave without being attacked. You won ONE air battle, and only survived by the grace of lend/lease That isn’t what I would call “good”