Great comparison mate. I think you’re right regarding budget. However, it does offer an already good bike and makes it better. Looks like that engine responds well to some simple affordable mods, and definitely a good result with the big bore kit. Looks like the 650 high comp might be a good balance point of power and cost.

Great video . So pleased you arrived at a positive decision on all the 650 machines regardless of their state of tune, 'cos they are great little bikes.Love mine, stock, well almost.

@motostralia5563

2 жыл бұрын

Greetings, thanks for that. Yes, they are such a great bike. I’m pleased you’re enjoying yours. Do you have the Interceptor or the Continental GT? Take care, Len

@mototakahe836

2 жыл бұрын

@@motostralia5563 Hi it's an Interceptor, Glitter and Dust (the very shiny one!) At 75 my back does not apreciate clip ons. Just sold my 1200GS, struggling to get on. Gift of getting older. Keep up the good work.

@motostralia5563

2 жыл бұрын

@@mototakahe836 Good choice 👍 a very nice bike bike, indeed. I know what you mean about big bikes, they get heavier as you get older, eh? 😆

Awesome comparison, you answered a lot of my questions, and really helped me in making my mind up in which way to go. Keep up the great work

@motostralia5563

Жыл бұрын

Hi, Lee. Thanks for watching. I really appreciate your comments. I hope you enjoy the end result of your project - they’re such a unique bike and so rewarding to modify. Cheers, Len

Excellent video sir! I have a continental GT from December, I already have more than 8000km on the odo, I'm planing to get it to 865 as soon as the warranty is over, I really am enjoying the bike as it is and I want to keep it for a loooong time, I'll definitely will do the 865 mod thanks to your video, thanks a lot and you got a new subscriber.

@motostralia5563

2 жыл бұрын

Greetings, Carlos. Thank you very much for your kind words. I enjoyed making the video as it revealed so much about these really great motorcycles. My first 650 was an unmodified Continental GT, but at the time I couldn’t keep it as well as my Triumph Thruxton. I chose to keep the Thruxton, but always missed the character of the RE 650. I am now fortunate enough to have both. I’m planning to do a comparison of the two bikes in the future - that should be interesting. I’m not sure if I’d make the same decision again if I had to make the choice. I’m pleased you’re enjoying your Conti GT and I’m sure you will do so even more when the 865 kit, etc. arrives. It’s truly an outstanding bike 👍 Cheers, Len

This is great comparison video. It's very useful for someone like me that interesting at stage 2 modification (high compression pistons and high lifting camshaft) because there's no one doing this modification in Thailand. Thanks for sharing.

Good video mate. Very useful for someone like myself who is looking to do the 650 HC pistons and cam upgrade. Cheers

@motostralia5563

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Chris. That’s a very sensible choice. The HC pistons on the 650 give a ‘sharper crack’ to the exhaust note than the 865. If you can get a pair of S&S mufflers, they give a deepest sound and are not quite as loud. All the best with the build, you’ll love it. Cheers, Len

A few years ago I bought two of the S&S 750cc (743cc) big bore kits and installed the first one in mid-2023 when my 2020 Interceptor had 28,000 miles on it. I also installed the S&S camshaft while doing all the work myself except the liner installation which I had a machine shop do including cross-hatch. Doing the work myself, total cost of the big-bore kit, camshaft, machine shop fees and parts was just over $1,100. That was 14,000 miles ago (now 6•10•24). Totally different bike! Have been riding well over 1,000 miles per month and can't leave it parked....my Triumphs (Thruxton and Speed Twin) feel heavy and slow compared to the 750INT which weighs less (195kg) and has another gear (6 vs 5-speed). This is the best money spent to easily and dependably give a 650 R.E. the throttle authority of a 900.

Here is the thing, depending on your location and how stringent your emissions regulations are will be a huge deciding factor in which way to go. I live in the US in a state that is emissions lenient and have a fellow that not only is a RE dealer, but also has a full speed shop on-site. He told me that the 650 high comp kit with a port & polish, valve job, high-flow air box, S&S Qualifier 2 into 1, power commander, and some dyno tuning you can get all you will need out of the bike and that the only difference in power between the 650 stock bore and the big bore is going to be when the peak torque is achieved. He has built both and said that for the money the 650 high-comp is the most economical way to go, that the cost of the 865 kit is not worth the minimal gains unless you are looking to make a track only machine and start running much larger throttle bodies, injectors and valves.

@motostralia5563

Жыл бұрын

Hi, thanks for your comments. Your mechanic is correct, the 650 high comp mods - as was done on Jono’s bike would be the most economical way to go. However, the 865 upgrades make it a different bike again. Worth the extra cost for the super torque at such low revs? For me, oh yeah! Cheers, Len

Great balanced video, that indicates that these are great bikes to modify or leave standard, without prejudice! Thanks!

@motostralia5563

8 ай бұрын

Hi, Neil. Thanks for your comment, it’s very much appreciated. Yes, indeed these bikes are just so good and are super value. Take care, Len

Very enjoyable comparison,like the sound of the 865 !! I have a new 650 meteor here in NZ and am in love with her!! I can compare as my other bike is a 2018FXLR I truly have the best of 2 worlds 😅 Thanks and keep um coming 👏

@motostralia5563

11 ай бұрын

Best indeed, Steve! ✌️ Cheers, Len

Also another approach to be considered - remove weight wherever possible - rear light assembly replaced , center stand removed , 2 to 1 exhaust eliminates 1 muffler , solo seat , LED head light , LED signal pods , replace the lead acid battery with a Lithium Ion one. You should be able to reduce the weight by 30 plus pounds and that will also make a difference.

Great video, loads to consume 👍

@motostralia5563

Жыл бұрын

Cheers, Mr. Pest. Thanks for watching ✌️

Great video, very well-considered . I've watched this bike from the initial development, it's an exceptionally well though-out machine and this shows in its following around the World . They are cheap-as-chips 2nd-hand in NZ . If you are patient , 7k will buy you either model, low-K's and often under warranty still . You could buy three (almost) for the price of a new Triumph . They are the MX5 of the motorcycle-world ( before they created a race-category for them ) a real-bike riding experience that thousands enjoy . RE helped S&S develop the big-bore kit, they are strong-motors . I would love one, but would need to sell one of my 'other' babies , and I am spoiled for bikes already . TR1 XV1000, TX650 cafe , a W650....and a tolerant Partner... Dave NZ

@motostralia5563

Жыл бұрын

Hi Dave, I really appreciate your comments. Nice babies to own, my friend. It would indeed be cool to complement them with a Royal Enfield 650 😁 I understand your reference to having a tolerant partner 😊 Take care, Len

Hi, one of my subscribers put me onto this video, as I was talking about giving my 2020 Interceptor a bit more “oomph”. I already have a K+N free flow filter with open cover, a pair of Scorpion Red Power silencers (baffles in so not to annoy neighbours) and a booster plug. This video has been of great help, so I will get a pair of free flow headers next, and see if that satisfies my lust, then possibly a Power Commander with dyno set up. Again, thank you.

@motostralia5563

Жыл бұрын

Hi, Ian. I’m pleased you enjoyed the video. Free flowing headers would help the bike breathe much better, which is what it needs. Once you’ve done that, the power commander and a good dyno tune are a must to get the best results from your mods. The tune on the bike as it is at the moment has been set up for the standard engine components - once you fit the engine upgrades the tuning will need to be adjusted to get the most from the motor. It will make a big difference in getting the most from your Interceptor. All the best with your build. Have fun. Cheers, Len

@ianhughesroyalenfield

Жыл бұрын

@@motostralia5563 brilliant, thanks for the advice.

Nice to hear from someone who has ridden the 865

I'm more like an inline 4 kind of a guy....but somehow i like this exhaust note... Vary beautiful looking machine 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

@DANTHETUBEMAN

9 ай бұрын

get off the swing machine motors 😅 get a 270° crank on your life 😊

Nice music! 😘

great review would have been nice to get some costs

@motostralia5563

Жыл бұрын

Hi, Stanley, thanks for watching. I’m pleased you enjoyed the video. Yeah, I did think of going through the costs, but I was afraid my wife would see the video somehow and find out just how much I spent 😆 Cheers, Len

Are your Verex headers 45mm one's & are they 45mm straight through all the way to S&S mufflers or reduce to 41mm & needed to use gaskets?

I have a Rocker Red GT650, Euro5 model, have a 2into1 exhaust from TecBike parts and a DNA high flow airfilter. Its heaven on two wheels (you must have bar end mirrors BTW). I don't believe there is a power comander for the Euro5 bikes? Or am I wrong? Its only 1700 miles currently, so I should just leave it alone now and enjoy 🙂

Thanks for the comparison I'm thinking about possible upgrades for my Continental GT 650 next winter. How is the fuel consumption between the 2 bikes? Any check engine codes flashed after the mods on either bikes?

@motostralia5563

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, thanks for watching. I really haven’t bothered checking fuel consumption. But, it is using more fuel, for sure. I figure that it’s a small,pay off for the extra performance. No codes flashing. However, it is important to have the bike tuned correctly. All the best with your decision. I’m sure you’ll enjoy the improved power, especially the torque, whichever way you go with the mods. Cheers, Len

G'day, great video and thanks for making it! Can you say where your mate Jono got his engine mods done, somewhere in Melbourne?

@motostralia5563

Жыл бұрын

Hi Carlos, thanks for the compliment 👍 Jono had his engine mods done by Carl at Cafè Racer in Wattle Flat, which is near Bathurst in NSW. He’s the same guy who sorted my 865 for me. Sorry, it’s a long way from Melbourne. However, if you could get the bike to him you’d be sure to get the best possible job done 👍 Or, maybe he could recommend someone down your way? Cheers, Len

@carlosellatigo9378

Жыл бұрын

@@motostralia5563 thanks Len, sounds like the man for the job. Will have a chat with him 🙏

@motostralia5563

Жыл бұрын

@@carlosellatigo9378 When you call him, mention that you’ve been in contact with me about Jono and my bikes. I’m sure he’ll chat about them. All the best 👍

Thank you for the so informative video. It would be interesting to see the 865 against the current Moto Guzzi V7. Both seem to have a ton of charm for old farts like me.

Bullet proof bottom end. I have a 2017 Continental GT and love it. I also had a Triumph 2022 1200 Speed twin which I didn't like. I'm not sure if it was a tire thing with the Triumph but it always felt twitchy on the road and didn't inspire confidence in the twisties. I traded that in on 2024 BMW RS1250.

@frederickwoods5943

19 күн бұрын

I agree with Charles about the Speed Twin 1200; mine is so "snatchy" throttle wise it reminds me of a 2-stroke, I installed the Ducati spacers and it still is annoying to ride even in rain mode. Shouldn't have to get a new bike re-flashed to make it run smoothly, the emissions tune from the factory is probably to blame.

My bike will complete 3 years in September. My plans are to equip it with a DNA filter, s&s exhausts. Ohlins suspensions comes later.

@motostralia5563

Жыл бұрын

Hi Pratik, all the best with your upcoming mods. Sounds like an excellent plan - you’ll love the sound of the S&S pipes ❤️ Cheers, Len

Give us the all up break down costs of each option

Nonsense.That transmission is smooth as butter.

@motostralia5563

11 ай бұрын

I’m pleased the transmission on your bike is so smooth. I know exactly what you mean. The transmission on my first 650, a Continental GT, was an absolute delight; sometimes I couldn’t even feel it go into gear. Absolutely the best transmission I’ve ever used. However, the transmission on this bike is not great and it wasn’t good from new despite many adjustments and fiddlings. It was quite disappointing and I hoped it would smooth out over time, but it hasn’t. I made enquiries with the dealership and it seems that this occur sometimes with these 650s, but it’s rare. Interestingly, when we rode the two standard 650s during the comparison one had a great gearbox and the other was not so great. Enjoy your your bike and gearbox - they’re so good. Cheers, Len

Enjoyed your video , great comparison between the two , my 2020 Glitter and Dust Interceptor has a DNA air filter with the snorkel delete bracket , Booster plug and S&S mufflers , for a pretty crook 66yr old I find it's plenty fast enough for me ! on another subject I got in early and picked up a 120th Special Edition Interceptor and a 120th Special Edition Continental GT both with the Black Chrome Tanks with the Special Brass Tank Badges !I would like your opinion , should I sell them now while they are still fresh in peoples minds or stash them away for a while ? PS I'm in SA .

@motostralia5563

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, Stephen. Thanks for the compliment. Great choice with the glitter and dust - an awesome looking bike! I’m pleased you’re enjoying it. Regarding the 120th Edition bikes… It’s such a difficult and personal decision which depends on how long you want to keep the bikes and on other factors including ongoing registration and servicing costs, battery issues, running out of warranty, etc. As well as them now being second hand bikes, which is usually what people come back at you with when selling. It might be an idea to advertise now and see how they go. If no buyers, maybe keep longer term. But, if you do that you’d need to factor in the ongoing costs of keeping the bikes which would depend on how long you want to put them aside. Costs add up over time. I’ve had a few Anniversary bikes over the years and I understand your dilemma. I’ve found that when the time comes they are easier to sell, but people don’t always want to pay more for one. If pushed for a suggestion, I’d advertise one of the bikes now and see what happens. I hope this helps, but maybe you’ve thought of these things already. All the best with your decisions. Cheers, Len

@stephendove5306

2 жыл бұрын

@@motostralia5563 Thank you for your prompt reply , I may put one up to test the market !

@michaelraeburn2563

2 жыл бұрын

awesome vid I own a 650 interceptor all stock and absolutely love it great bikes

I have a 650 with free flow exhaust and a booster plug and I think for my daily usage it is a good fun relaxing bike.

@user-jv4ht6tw9u

11 ай бұрын

As always, I did hunger for more torque, did look into a used Ducati 848 Evo and it's a big no for me, I couldn't get pass the riding position, I guess I'm just not into that anymore. I'll wait for Royal Enfield to produce official 865 cc bike as I don't have access to a good machinist in my place.

Many questions answered so very nicely & most importantly very very very PRACTICALLY. Nowadays people do mods for just to say I DID IT. 😊 SO SO SO GOOD. The only thing I missed is a hany typed list of mods. Nice to see it on the somment box.

@motostralia5563

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for your kind words; much appreciated. Cheers, Len

I have owned a standard Interceptor 650 for 3 years. I did change the air filter and the pipes. I love it but your video makes me lust after just a bit more..... However, as your video said, budget!!! I have 3 bikes and if I want to go faster I have a Kawasaki Z900rs which will meet my needs. I am curious as to what needs to be done to install the 650 high compression pistons and cam? I don't need it but.........

@motostralia5563

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Julian. To install the components it’s a matter of buying the 650 high compression pistons (which allows keeping the standard cylinders), and the new camshaft, etc. and “simply” having them installed on the bike. It’s a fairly straight forward process probably done best by a good mechanic. If you have a look at the list of components on Jono’s bike you’ll see pretty much all the parts you’ll need to getting the bike to run it’s best. If you go to Revelry Cycles KZread channel you’ll find a lot more detailed info on what’s involved in modifying the RE 650 motor. BTW, I had a Z900 RS a few years ago, they’re a great bike - I’m pleased you enjoy it. Cheers, Len.

650 great the way it is. aftermarket parts. It's like a brand new bike. And now, before even getting used to a new wondering machine. Upgread upgrade. There are lots of choices. All seems good. Enjoy what we can afford, which is gasoline. If we don't upgrade, we can pay for all that gas. I couldn't afford a new car. I couldn't afford a used car. At 61. I could afford a nice Royal Enfield interceptor 650. Was Shut in. Depending on rides was embarrassing even while disabled. 3 wheelchairs in 3 years. And, I'm up, standing, walking, and riding. My stock motorcycle would love upgrades. Yet, I love being out and about again.

I just got a new 2022 RE650. So your saying a free flowing exhaust, DNA air cleaner and Power Commander would be a good inexpensive upgrade. How much of a gain could I expect?

@motostralia5563

5 ай бұрын

Greetings, Blackdog. Congrats on the 650, they’re a great bike 👍 Yep, that set up, in my opinion, is the most cost efficient and best bang for your buck. And just as important as the hardware is getting the motor set up correctly with a good dyno tune person. With regards to any expected gain, it depends on your criteria. Without putting a figure on it, I’m thinking you will notice the gain in torque more than a great lot of power/acceleration (hp). The torque of the 650 motor is exceptional in stock form, but with the above mods that area of the bike’s performance would be greatly enhanced. Love the 650 motor ❤️ I hope this helps, and all the best with your 650 journey ✌️

OK you want a retro, these REs out of the box are superb however dumping money into an already great bike just to make it faster is redundant to say the least. Ride an MT 07 or 09, Honda Hornet 750 Triumph Speed Twin or Street Triple which all said and done would cost as much or less than this upgrade. The RE is a peach, it does everything well and gives a sense of pride just walking up to it.

@motostralia5563

Жыл бұрын

Greetings, @TR5T. Thanks for your comments - you make some good points. I’ve owned and ridden many fast bikes including the Triumphs you mentioned and many more - all good bikes. However, the RE is a very different machine and the mods weren’t about making a faster bike - it was about the power and torque at low revs. As an old school mechanic, I don’t like high revving bikes and to get such power out of an air cooled motor is astonishing and so different to riding a high revving motor. At street legal speeds at low revs the torque and power is so rewarding. However, you are so correct, as I mentioned in the video, the RE is so good the way it is as stock - it’s a great bike. Enjoy. Cheers, Len

Has anyone tried the cam and breathing without the high comp pistons? Would be quite a bit less work and less stress on the bottom end, clutch and box.

For me the Continental GT 650 with better air flow and more open exhaust makes the most sense to spend on a good looking budget bike, otherwise just buy the Triumph 900 or 1200 to get the performance you want. Nice comparison video though.

@motostralia5563

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching, Paul. I agree about the GT650👍 Cheers, Len

Don't forget that all the golden pinstripe on the tank and bike are hand painted.. Watch the royal Enfield factory in India video

Hi there advice needed please Im in the process of buying parts to do the s&s cam and hi comp piston upgrade to my euro 5 2021 interceptor Hitchcocks dont have a power commander set up for this comfigeration I contacted another tuning company (who re flashed my ecu for open pipes and dna filter setup) they can dyno tune the motor on the rolling road but my feeling is that they would have to redline the motor before it was properly run yet to fully tune it up?i didnt know if you know a company where i could send my ecu in for a reflash if they already have the software for this hi comp piston s&s cam set up. Cheers Mark

@motostralia5563

4 ай бұрын

Hi, Mark. It sounds like your building a nice bike there 👍 In short, I’m afraid I don’t know of anyone who could remotely set an ecu for your bike. I guess someone with previous experience with Interceptor ecus could get it close, but you wouldn’t get the best out of it for your particular bike. All motors have different characteristics in one way or another, especially considering the other various engine mods already done, and the ecu is best set while on the individual bike. That way, your bike is bespoke and is set for the best possible performance for your engine mods. As I understand from your text, you’re saying that your Interceptor hasn’t been run in yet? If that’s the case, my opinion would be to run it in and get everything tuned on a rolling dyno. That way the mechanic can set the ecu to get the best performance out of your motor. I was always a bit wary of putting my bike on a dyno as it all seems so scary. But if the bike is run in, there shouldn’t be a problem. It’s worth it to get the best performance from the cost you’ve already put into the bike. A proper dyno tune will make a big difference. All the best with your build, I hope you’re pleased with the results - they’re a great bike. Cheers, Len

The clunkiness of the transmission may be due to the stock clutch running hot. Rekluse makes a kit that is tailored to the R.E. 650's that have the 743cc and 863cc big-bore kits.

@motostralia5563

9 күн бұрын

Hi, Frederick. When I modified the motor I installed an S&S heavy duty clutch. A heavier clutch, as you suggest, is really necessary to cope with the extra power and torque. Unfortunately, the clutch was never great from the day I bought it. Cheers, Len

Hi great video, how does the gearbox compare from these two modified bikes to the stock? Are they as smooth? Cheers

@motostralia5563

2 ай бұрын

Hi, Nick. I’m pleased you enjoyed the video. The gearbox on Jono’s GT was good. Unfortunately, the gearbox on my 865 was not great from new. However, having the work done to the motors on each bike had no effect on the operation of their gearboxes. The 865 did need a heavier clutch with more plates to handle the increased power and torque from the motor, but that didn’t affect the gearbox. Directly after riding these two bikes I had the opportunity to ride a stock Interceptor as well as a stock GT. The gearbox on one was not great, but the other was quite good. Interestingly, the gearbox on my first RE650 GT Continental was definitely the best gearbox on any bike I’ve ever owned. All of this has me thinking that gearbox quality is/was not uniform across all machines at the time of my riding them. I’m not sure if others have found this to be the case; I can only say that at the time, gearbox quality seemed to be random. However, that may not be the case now. Cheers, Len

Do you reckon the S&S camshaft could be fitted with a 16T front sprocket or best left with the original sprocket?

@motostralia5563

8 ай бұрын

Greetings, I run mine with a 16T front sprocket with no problems at all. The motor accelerates and pulls effortlessly. Highly recommended. Cheers, Len

Do you have the power figures for both bikes vs a stock one can you please share it side by side?

@motostralia5563

2 жыл бұрын

Greeting, Arjun. Power figures can be difficult to compare, as manufactures mostly quote power figures as achieved on a water braked dyno. These numbers are higher than power figures achieved on a rear wheel dyno, which is where the power and torque is ideally calculated. The power and torque figures for both the 650 and the 865 were achieved on a water braked dyno (which will read less that those on a water braked dyno). As seen in the video, the bottom power and torque curves are for a standard 650. Higher are the curves for the modded 650s and at the top are the curves for the 865 - each set of curves have different colours. The power and torque figures can be read from the graphs. However, to compare these figures to manufacturer specs would require converting one or the other to the same units of measurement - I haven’t done that. I hope this helps. Cheers, Len

Honestly, if I ever felt like converting a 650 RE into an 850cc, I would just sell the bike and get a T100 or T120 and be done with it. Or, get a Bonneville from the get go if you are considering this much money to upgrade the RE.

Hey mate where’d you the dyno mapping done? I’m over in wa and wanting to do the 865 kit but there’s no one close that tunes them

@motostralia5563

Ай бұрын

Hi, Joel. Apologies for the tardy reply. I had the tuning done by a guy near Bathurst, NSW. But, I guess that doesn’t help you very much. Have you tried calling dealers to see if they know of anyone? Sometimes the best guys operate from backyard workshops. All the best with your search. Cheers, Len

@joelspiteri1484

Ай бұрын

No worries thanks mate I’ll try a few places and see if I can send the tuner over and get it flashed with a similar map to what I have mod wise

Mate, were the engine casings that shiny from the factory?

@motostralia5563

Жыл бұрын

Greetings. The casings were quite shiny, but not as shiny as they are now. It takes a a bit of effort to get them really glossy and they do need to be monitored as they can get dull quite quickly if left unattended. Cheers, Len

Top speed? 0-100km/hr real?

When I test rode the 650 a couple of years ago,straight away I did not like,it felt gutless in a kindof 70s Honda way..but now I fancy one with the 865 conversion,,Money wise (in the UK) you cannot justify doing that to a brand new bike ,you end up spending into Triumph territory(and lets be honest the trumpet is a better bike) Sooooo you have to get one second hand,I would get the rebore done first and some clutch springs then just go from there..Its no point in splashing out on everything at once you might end up with a bike like a dogs dinner..Another thing,,, brakes ,,,hope you got some decent pads in....

@joebone3151

2 жыл бұрын

Just gonna pick one up for my first bike. I will worry bout other stuff later. Would you say it's a good starter street legal bike. I spent most my time on dirtbikes from 150s to 500s

@lipsee100

2 жыл бұрын

@@joebone3151 Well as a first bike the 350 would have been ideal,,but the 650 is not a really powerful bike and has a low seat,,I should think you will be ok...Later on you could rebore it to 856 and become a hooligan,, If you can handel a 500 dirt bike I,m sure you will have no trouble with a 650 (piece of cake)

@joebone3151

2 жыл бұрын

@@lipsee100 that's answered it for me. Well you my friend may have made it official for me. As once I got the down payment money. I'm heading down to the local dealer to picke me up one. Thankyou friend and yeah those 500cc 2 strokes were something else

@whatsstefon

2 жыл бұрын

I have to agree, but after all it is a modern representation of a 70s bike. Bikes always leave you wanting more. When I was in my 20s and the Hayabusa came out, people started turboing them and throwing NOS kits on them. Ultimately, a bike needs balance. Performance, handling, braking. And most of all, the thing you can’t put on paper. Feel.

What about vibrations in 865 engine compared to 650?

@motostralia5563

5 ай бұрын

Vibrations are the same, but the ‘feel’ of the motor is different. You can feel that it’s a bigger motor. Cheers

I have a question. I'm more of a fuel consumption kind of guy. I ride my bike between 80-110kph because that's where it is most fuel efficient. However, i still demand a little bit of power and torque. I'm currently getting 34 on highways, if i could get 25-30km/L with a much better performance I'd be happy. I don't mind spending as long as i get my return on fuel consumption, so which route do you think is better? Some of you might say why not get a different bike that Carter's to my needs? Well I don't want a different bike. I'm not addicted to speed but i do want a bit more speed and more efficiency on my interceptor. I noticed she is not very efficient at high rpms. Just 1500rpm difference from my eco riding and i could be losing 10-12km/L. My harley is a gulper but the difference between riding it mildly and riding it like a hooligan is only 5km/L so might as well ride it like a hooligan. I can't do that on my interceptor which is what pisses me off.

@motostralia5563

Жыл бұрын

Hi, Fuel Consumption Guy. You’ve certainly got an interesting decision to make. I can only give you my thoughts, but the best bang and best fuel consumption at lowest cost is to just change the breathing by fitting a DNA air filter, free flowing pipes - I recommend the S&S pipes, for sure - and a Power Commander. Then get a really good dyno tune person to sort it for you. It will make a big difference. If you wanted more power and acceptable fuel consumption, I’d go for the 865 bits and use a 16 tooth front sprocket. The torque you get from Mr. Black is truly amazing and the bike constantly ran at lower revs than did Jono’s kitted 650. My opinion at the time was that my bike was using less fuel. Of course, it would use more fuel that a stock motor with the pipes and stuff. But the torque with the 865 is where you ride and is right in the peak torque band! Throttle twisting is quite minimal. However, I’m thinking the stock motor with the easy upgrades might just give you the little bit extra you need… and at easily the lowest cost. I hope this helps with your decision. And no, you certainly don’t need to change bikes 😁, the RE 650s are great bikes. Ride and enjoy 👍 Cheers, Len

@r.i.p2464

Жыл бұрын

@@motostralia5563 thanks for the response. Well i guess I'm gonna have to go with the big bore. I already know i ain't gonna get the same mileage as stock even with just a filter exhaust and a tune because tuning the bike gives you more power and more power means more fuel consumption. I just want the torque a bit lower so there's minimal throttle input so i can effortlessly get to my cruising speed. I live in a mountainous area too so I would need that extra torque to haul myself, my girl and some camping equipment over some steep climbs. Thanks again for the response. I'll consider doing the tune and free flow exhaust first, if that doesn't satisfy me then on to the big bore kit. Cheers!

@crazydude9496

11 ай бұрын

@@motostralia5563 By free flow exhausts do you mean full systems? Do the slipons also make a difference in breathing? And what if i just install the slipons and free flow air filter? Will the bike breathe better and have good oil/air ratio without performance ecu?

@motostralia5563

11 ай бұрын

@@crazydude9496 If you replace the stock mufflers with a good pair - S&S mufflers are awesome - and install the DNA air filter you will get improved performance. If you also replace the header pipes your performance will increase just that bit more. That’s the basic theory. However, you will get the best from those mods with or without a new ecu if you get the bike on the dyno. The bike will sound so good , especially with the S&S pipes.

@crazydude9496

11 ай бұрын

@@motostralia5563 so even without custom ecu dyno is useful? Doesn’t the stock ecu auto adjust with these minor upgrades?

Can anyone say how much hotter these run. Cylinder and head temps?

@redtobertshateshandles

9 ай бұрын

A lot. Standard they get hot. Probably not a big problem using full synthetic oil and changing it frequently.

I wonder how the bottom end will hold up?

@motostralia5563

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, that’s a very good question. I had the same concerns before I did the mods done on my bike. However, I recommend you go to Revelry Cycles KZread channel and watch their videos on modifying the Royal Enfield 650 motor. Here, you’ll find that the bottom end is very strong, indeed. Santina has drag raced a very powerful drag bike with a standard bottom end for some time with no issues. That’s good enough for me. Cheers, Len

@kdsowen2882

Жыл бұрын

As far as I know, S&S developed those kits 'With' RE , who wanted the bike to be customised by owners. They kept the factory 650 low in HP to cater to Insurance-brackets and other legislation in Target-Markets . This has resulted in high-sales of the stock-bike World-wide . They are 'Very' strong motors, I wish I owned one, just cant bring myself to sell my W650....yet Dave NZ

@motostralia5563

Жыл бұрын

@@kdsowen2882 Hi Dave, interesting your comment on the Kawasaki W. That was one of the bikes I had before my current InterContinental 865 👍

This horsepower inadequacy is pointless. Just enjoy your bike. There's always something faster. Standard they have enough power. I'd prefer a Rickman chassis kit. Kawasaki went the lightweight route with the Z1000J. The best riding Z ever made.

Sprocket mods

Lastima que es en inglés en español pofavor

@motostralia5563

19 күн бұрын

Ojalá pudiera ayudarte, pero mi español no es bueno. Lo siento.

love gt650....muy hermosa

@motostralia5563

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Nikola, yes the GT650 is a great looking bike 😁 I’ll let Jono know 🤙

Stop the horrible noise.