At first, I thought this was a joke, but no, he can not even get it off of the side stand. It is simply hilarious that no other human that has ever ridden one has mentioned this difficulty. Not even a 5 foot 4 dutch girl. Move on to a 125 with a 20 inch saddle... LMFAO.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

Just remember you heard it here first. 😂

@widephil

3 ай бұрын

My god buy a car and don't bother.... bit embarrassing admitting that you can't get a bike of a sidestand... surely a joke !!!

@markjacobs3956

3 ай бұрын

​@@Teacher-T-ThailandIt's a joke... right?

@idontwantahandle12345

Ай бұрын

Honda Monkey for you!!! Embarrassing!!!

@Teacher-T-Thailand

Ай бұрын

@@idontwantahandle12345 seems so, to all you ex sperts

I'm a 1,73m owner of a Himalayan 411, 3+ years now. And I want to thank you for your video. Don't mind the idiots trying to put you down. This isn't a technique nor a tall-enough problem, this is a engineering problem. I know what may have happened. The 411 has a side-stand that keeps the bike too upright, I've seen many instances where it felt to the other side because of it. And still, having it parked on a slope was a pain in the ass to get it out sometimes because of the upper weight distribuition. They may have tried to fix this by increasing the angle, fixing one problem and creating another, like you showed. Some owners of the 411 sawed the side-stand to make it shorter and fix this problem. In this case, this new problem may be a major fault, if I'll considering upgrading to the new version.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the support. The bike virtually leans over at 45 degrees. That's what it feels like. And with a full tank of fuel, it was impossible even on tip toes to get the bike past tipping point. I've seen a lot of videos now off people coming of at low speed and miis-footings. A lovely bike, which I will pass on now. 100% too tall for me. I will stick with my cruisers. 🙏

@leeinwis

Ай бұрын

The crf250l rally has a absurdly tall kick stand and made the bike fall, onto my car 🤬🤬.

I admire your honesty, what a blinking shame you couldn't get out on it. A lowering kit is a must for this bike and I am sure there will be one. Looking forward to the SM shock video as I interested in replacing mine. Ride safe 👍

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

Thanks. The new shocks will be fitted over the next few days. And video will be out next Friday. I hope they are an improvement. If not, I will tell you Thanks for watching 🙏

Strange, I'm about the same height and when I sat on the bike I could feel it being top heavy while standing still, but I could still balance it on my tippy toes. Was the tank full to the rim?

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

90% full I’d say. And I didn’t have my normal thick soled boots on, as they were back home in Thailand. 🙏

Weird, im 5’5” with a 29” inseam and got on one yesterday no sweat with a stock seat on low setting. Had half a tank of fuel but as I ride a super tall DRZ400 I’ve learnt to stand the bike up first, holding the front break and then getting on. Maybe you need a different technique? Some turn the front wheel the opposite way while mounting on the stand. Maybe a wooden block or a widening foot under the stand would help?

@Teacher-T-Thailand

2 ай бұрын

Some stock seats are 810mm I’ve since found out. The one I tried was 825mm lowest setting. But you still have 1 inch extra inseam to raise the bike. Surely you must admit the bike leans over excessively on the side stand. I only had the bike for an hour, and was flying to Thailand the next day. All in hind sight I could have done things differently. But decided I will stick with my cruisers. I’ve even had to lover my Meteor 650 from 740mm to 720mm. The Himalayan will never be for me. And have since seen so many videos of people falling off them at low speed with miss footings. Something I could not afford to do on a brand new bike that day. 🙏

@flyingkiwi215

2 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand Yeah, go with what you feel is good. The one I tried was 825mm. My DRZ is 890mm and feels heavy because it’s high. I’ve learnt to mount it standing up as I’m not tall enough to push it over while on the stand.

First I've heard of a Himalayan 452. I feel your frustration. I'm 5'9" with a 30 inside leg. I just keep walking by anything resembling a dirt bike. But I did test ride a Himalayan and really enjoyed it. My two complaints were that it really isn't powerful enough for my everyday needs, and it's air-cooled. One thing I really appreciated is that when I really let my weight onto the bike the mono shock compressed nicely and I wasn't on my toes, but flat footed. I weigh 190lbs. I didn't see this bike sink at all when you sat on it. Could it be the rear shock was at the stiffest setting? Looks like a major development for RE. Thanks.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

Ай бұрын

Yes it is a major development. The first water cooled Royal Enfield engine. This one has twice the power of the 411 you test rode. Hopefully we can see the engine roll out in other lower models in the future. 😂🙏

Turn the handle bars hard right will help take the wait off the stand

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

It doesn’t show on camera well, but the bike really does lean close to 45 degrees it feels. On normal bikes yes. Here it didn’t help. But I should have used a block of wood under the side stand. That would have helped I think. Gutted to be honest.

@Barnie104

3 ай бұрын

That's not good needs a longer stand its the only negative I've heard about the bike so far sorry it didn't work out for you from all I've seen about the bike its top's for the price and category

I'm sure you'll enjoy those hagon shocks, best of luck with it 👍🏻

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

Thanks. Yes I need some enjoyment after that fail 😂🙏

Did I understand that correctly, there are seat height adjustments built into the seat? I wish they had that on my Vulcan S!

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

Yes Scott. All built in. You would have no problems on this bike, unlike me 😂🙏

So, all you need to do is get the bike off its side stand (whilst not on it) then put the centre stand on. Climb on, momentum forward. Done.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

Yes I’ve seen that done before. But not on a new bike I’ve just signed a damage waver on. I was worried about what would happen at the first red traffic light 🙏

You cannot ride that bike if you cannot support it safely.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

That was going through my head also, after signing the damage waiver. The last thing I needed was a big bill before retuning to Thailand.

Thank you 🙏

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

Thank you 🙏

Love Itchy Boots, been watching her since season 3 or 4. ❤❤

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

She is such an ambassador for the brand. Honda also. But i’m sure she must have had her bike lowered 😂

One thing to remember is like me Teacher T Thailand isn't a youngen now. I'm 63 and would like a V-Strom 650. However I'm not flexible enough to get on and off the bike or bixe like it so easily now.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the defence. I’m not used to all this abuse 😂🙏

@simonchilli2088

3 ай бұрын

You're welcome. In the end you gave your opinion on your channel which is how it should be.

This is exactly why I am a subscriber to your channel, Teacher. An honest review and a review of issues that almost all other reviewers gloss over. I am vertically challenged at 5.7ft and decided a while ago that most manufacturers are making bikes that are not meant for me. You also highlighted something that I have direct experience of in that the bike was so heavy and lent so far over that you are unable to get it off the side-stand. I had exactly the same experience last year when I went to test ride the Royal Enfield Interceptor 650. At the dealership the bike was parked on an incline (on the side-stand side) and I was not able to get it off the side-stand to start my test ride. As with you, I walked away from it and cancelled the test ride. I was, however, able to do my test ride on the Super Meteor 650 and ended up buying one of these bikes. I am very skeptical about a lowering kit on the new Himalaya because it may get you closer to the ground, but you still have to deal with the weight. I am also not a fan of bikes that are clearly top-heavy, I've been there and done that with a different manufacturer. Well done on telling it as it is Teacher, another gold star for you on this video and I'm sorry you were so disappointed by the experience. More importantly, many of us as waiting your return to Thailand and the review of fitting the new rear shocks on your SM650. Be well.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

Thank you so much once again. I also received your PM about the rear sprocket on the Meteor. I will certainly consider making a video about this issue. It’s always hard to think of new content every week. The shocks I bought are also 20mm lower. Fingers crossed I won’t be disappointed again 🙏

@B0M0A0K

3 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand I am watching for the shocks content with great interest, it would be a show down between a different, lighter exhaust and the replacement shocks. Could you keep us up to date on any new information you may get concerning the belt drive. That one is fascinating if a little out of my budget for now? It must be nice to be home after your travels.

@B0M0A0K

3 ай бұрын

With regards to thinking of things to produce for content each week. I would caution against feeling that you have to produce something each week. I have seen too many content providers burn out with that pressure. You should produce content when you feel you are ready, we will be here.

I was on the Bangkok motorshow last month and sat on the Himalayan, i think it was fine, and i am 172 cm tall. Didn’t notice anything strange with the sidestand also. The bigger problem for RE is that the Himalayan will cost over 200.000Baht , and the new Honda NX500 costs about the same. With the Honda you get 500cc, more HP, 2 Cylinders, Double front brake discs, Honda quality, and an overall better looking and riding bike. I was convinced i would order the new Himalayan, but ended up buying the Honda NX .

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

Another motor show?! I missed that one. I was in UK I suppose. The NX500 does look like a serious contender. I like the fact it has a factory fitted engine braking light also. I did have the younger brother before. The CB500x for a while. Again I found it too too heavy for me, but at least I could get it off the side stand and ride it 😂. Good luck with the new bike 🙏

@ifindoubtbailout70

3 ай бұрын

As a 500x owner, I get that🤔

I can understand your frustration with the Himarlia-layan. That top heavy weight will likely be problematic when off-road. 👍👍

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

For short asses like me 100%. But the big old narley Aussie boys nailed it in their video. It’s the low speeds where people will topple.

I have a 411 so I went to see the 450. The side stand is too short. This review is accurate. It’s an effort to get the bike upright and it feels like it’s in mid-fall when you’re putting it on the stand.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

Thank you. I don’t believe the hate I’m getting for raising an issue that is important to shorter riders. I’ve not seen a modern motorcycle lean over as much as this one does. Thank you for the support 🙏

@Rick-ve5lx

3 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand You’re welcome.

Heyyy! Is that a RC30 standing quietly next to your bike on the parking lot? Wow!

@Teacher-T-Thailand

2 ай бұрын

Certainly looks like it. Yours? 😂🙏

@Puffdamgcdragon

2 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand I wish😅

They do have a lower seat option as well don't they , not just the standard adjustments

@Teacher-T-Thailand

2 ай бұрын

Yes they do have an 810mm seat available also. But still over 800. Sadly the dealer didn’t have it at the time. The bikes only just arrived. 🙏

@fredblogd8448

2 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand Its a shame you didn't get to ride it, on paper and reviews it looks quite a good all rounder. Not that I have any personal experience mind.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

2 ай бұрын

@@fredblogd8448 Thanks. Yes I was truly upset that I couldn’t get the bike upright past its point of balance to ride it. But after all the negativity and the fact that I prefer cruiser bikes, I think I will leave the Himalayan well alone from now on. 🙏

RE have options for a factory fitted 805mm seat height. Such a shame, dealership don't have low seat Himalayan 450 available 😮. With the low seat 805mm, 5'5 feet are also flat feet on many Himalayan 450 videos

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

It wasn’t just the seat height sadly. It is the angle of the bike when on its side stand. It feels like 45 degrees trying to pull it up. If it wasn’t leaning so far over I think I could have just managed it.

@ekimandersom4478

3 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-ThailandPretty much every adventure bike is around 82 cm or even higher. Thats just a matter of practice.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

@@ekimandersom4478 which is why I had to lower my CRF250l when I had one. But now at 56, I’m happy to be the old low down cruiser guy 😂🙏

The trick is to move the handle bars to right while picking it up.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

Even if I did get the bike upright, not being mine, I wouldn’t have the confidence to ride it at extreme tip toe sadly. The fear of dropping the bike was immense.

Theres a video on youtube by MOTORTREK from about three years ago. A 5ft3 woman mounts a R1200GSA and has no issues riding that around- you might want to watch it. You dont need a lowering kit, you need better technique.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

Points taken on board. Thank you 🙏

7:24 ahh yes I see you found the seat height adjustment under the seat, shame it doesn't seem to be low enough for you 🤷🏻‍♂️

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

Yes, tried everything really. The angle of the bike leaning on the side stand with a full tank of fuel was a major issue. It certainly leans over more than any other motorcycle.

Dude, put it on the centre stand and put all your weight on the foot peg before throwing your other leg over. If that works, then try doing the same thing with the side stand on instead

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

I’m not sure what you mean. Getting my leg over and sitting on the bike was not a problem. But getting the bike upright while sitting on the bike from the side stand was impossible due to the excessive lean of the bike. Believe me, I tried as hard as I could. I really wanted to ride the bike. 28 inch inside leg does not help.

There is another lower seat which can bring the height down to 805 mm

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

I think I would have just managed with that. But I don’t think it would help with my confidence. Still too too heavy.

Strange! Well if you turned the handle the other way, it would have been easy.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

Believe me I tried everything. Bike leaning over too far and a 28 inch inside leg was the issue. Just making short people aware 🙏

Ok. I watched your video carefully. I think the issue may not be totally cause you have shorter legs. I think it's more the fact that the side stand ends just where one would normally place their left foot on the ground. ( It's not lie this in most other bikes) So this makes you stretch your leg out a bit, thereby making it difficult to use your left foot as a base to push the bike up- Shorter legs plus lack of flexibility. Plus you need to simultaneously jerk the handlebars up and once it's coming up turn bars to the right and push down the right side of the handlebar. It shouldn't take too much effort. Just a little bit of shoulder strength. I'm 5 feet 10 with an inseam of 30 inch (shorter Asian legs) and I have no issues. People of your height/ inseam also don't seem to have any issues. Nice video, nevertheless! Subscribed.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

2 ай бұрын

I have taken a lot of criticism over this video. It seems you can say nothing bad about this bike. And yes maybe my method was wrong. It seems maybe I should have taken the bike off the side stand first, stood the bike upright, and the swung the leg over. But got a new unknown bike I wouldn't have done this without some one standing on the other side. My 28 inside leg has always been an issue for me. And the seat height I tested was 825mm. In this video you can clearly see the issue. My Meteor 650 back home is a 740 mm seat height, and Istill had to lower that by 20mm. Thanks for the Sub. 😂🙏 kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y5xlrJJym5Tep9o.htmlsi=NwWIbdEkkd0XunNi

The best advice i can give you is to go to a bike training course as something as simple as getting on a bike is not that difficult.Your approach is all wrong.Take it or leave it but its for your own good before you hurt yourself.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

Ай бұрын

Ha ha ha. I’ve been riding bikes for over 40 years. I’ve never met a bike where I can’t sit on it, then take it off the side stand, This bike virtually leans over at 45 degrees. I realise now I should have taken the bike off the side stand first maybe. But a brand new bike, and already knowing this bike is too tall for me, I was not prepared to do that. No courses needed. I’ll stick with my low cruisers. But I stick by the fact that the Himalayan is top heavy. So many videos of people getting their footings wrong and going over now.

The seat goes down to 805 i v heard

@Teacher-T-Thailand

12 күн бұрын

Has to be a different seat I think. I lowered this one as much as I could. I rode the Shotgun with a 795mm seat height no problem.

That must have been disappointing 😢 Anyway horses for courses hey 😊 It strikes me that you were test riding the RE Indian queens at Indian Queens 😂

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

Harsh 😂🙏

@felixVanDiemen

3 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand it wasn't meant to be. I just thought it was funny that the motorbike shop is in Indian Queens, Cornwall and you could describe the two motorcycles you had arranged to test ride as 'Indian queens' as all motorcycles are female, naturally ;-)

fair play to you 😂

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

I'm getting slated for being honest. Look like I should have stood the bike upright first then sat on it. But on a new unknown brand new bike the last thing I wanted to do was drop it. 🙏

Why didn't he just nudge it with his hips ?

@Teacher-T-Thailand

2 ай бұрын

Because he was on top toes with his left foot, and about a foot off the ground with his right foot. And no way of knowing if he could stop the bike falling if it went past the point of balance.

My man skipped every leg day

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

Not at all. My legs are strong. But on tip toe still not enough height to get this over leaning bike past it's point of balance.

I am 5'3" and I was able to touch the ground with the 825mm seat so I find it hard to belive you struggled at 5'8"

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

My inside leg is 28 inches. I am tall bodied, but short legged. I take it you are a 30 inch inside leg, which would make it possible. 🙏

@OOOUZ

3 ай бұрын

⁠@@Teacher-T-Thailandmate, you just dont know how to balance a motorcycle.. stop blaming your height!

@eddybastin6438

3 ай бұрын

@Teacher-T-Thailand I too have short legs which is why I enjoy riding Royal Enfields

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

@@eddybastin6438 which model?

@pranav318

3 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailandmight be super meteor

Perhaps you need to shop at 'toy's R us' .......i test rode one today 29" inside leg no problem .....ps low seat is available at 805mm the dealer should know this.....

@Teacher-T-Thailand

2 ай бұрын

So I presume you had the 805cm seat fitted then?

@Grumpysprout

2 ай бұрын

​@Teacher-T-Thailand no standard 825mm and I'm 68 years old!........chap after ne was well into his late 70s and off he went😅

@Teacher-T-Thailand

2 ай бұрын

@@Grumpysprout well that extra 1 inch inside leg made all the difference then. I’m glad you got to ride it. Would you buy one?

@Grumpysprout

2 ай бұрын

​@Teacher-T-Thailand To be quite honest the bike does not deserve the press praise, yes it's better than the 411 more power, better suspension but still vibrates to much yes I know its a single and they do, but you really need to work the engine quite hard to get it moving so for me it's a disappointment and i will not be ordering one.

Maybe you need a chock under the stand.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

Yes, in hindsight I should have done that. But it was the first sunny dry day in UK for about 6 months, and a queue of people waiting to ride. 🙏

Didn't ride the bike?

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

Couldn’t ride the bike. Sadly 😩🙏

I’m confused at what exactly is the Epic Fail. That you were to weak to stand the bike up straight ?

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

Pretty much… yes. How can you review a bike properly if you can’t ride it? It’s also a highlight to short riders. No other reviews are stating this at the moment. It’s all roses. Which it is if you are a taller rider I suppose. But I’m seeing too many videos of people dropping them already. 🙏

@dylanborlace1

3 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailandyou should change your video to I’m an EPIC fail. You can’t blame the bike because you’re not strong enough to lift it. I mean…Itchy boots is shorter than you and did it just fine and the Honda she is riding now is probably taller than the new Himalayan is. Adv bikes are tall. Maybe ride the Yamaha TW200 or a Honda Grom from now on.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

@@dylanborlace1 itchy boots had a preproduction bike, and probably tailored to her height. I am not hating the bike. I am not putting it down. And I am truly gutted I couldn’t ride it. And yes it is humiliating. Thank you for adding salt to the wounds.

@idontwantahandle12345

Ай бұрын

There are many many women in India riding the standard bike. My friend is 5’ 7” and test rode it without issue. What’s wrong with you!!! You failed not the bike! Change it idiot!

805mm low seat

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

Yes, I am hearing about this now. The dealership didn’t have one sadly. But I am sure a lowering kit will be on the market soon. I hope 🙏

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

Hopefully the dealership will get some in. Sadly now back in Thailand, and won’t see the model here for another 6 months I doubt.🙏

@percentbigfoot

3 ай бұрын

​@@Teacher-T-Thailandall new bikes have the option to lower the seat. 805-825 is the range.

WHAT!!!!!!!

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

You heard it here first 😂🙏

Yeah all short people hate it😂

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

I don’t hate it. But I just don’t understand all that build up and launch, to only have a limited market for the bike. Surely there should be an option for shorter riders!?

@dylanborlace1

3 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailandthey do. It’s called a Honda Grom. 😂

Ummmm? Dude?

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

Yes I know. Public humiliation 😂🙏

Why would you even post this.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

Because the information is correct. Specs, and my failure as a short rider. Some one has to mention it. I won't be the only one soon.

this is to disinform. no way some one cant lift it offstand at 196 kg. old one had 199 and even small guys in india could lift it. this is a joke. dislike and report.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

I can assure you this is genuine. And I don’t appreciate the criticism for raising the issue to short riders. No one is more upset than me for not being able to ride the bike. I’m a Royal Enfield fan and own the Meteor 650. Even that bike at 740mm seat height I struggle with. Don’t be a shortest!

@TheLostBoy01

3 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand Im not against short guys, im against missinforming people. I'm e medium height guy, 1.74 cm with 68 kgs. waiting for this 450 to arrive and im more worried about a GS than this one. Plus a rode the 411 and it was nowhere near a problem to lift it off the stand. why would a 3 kgs lighter bike be harder than the previous one?

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

@@TheLostBoy01 I think you will understand where I am coming from once you get the chance to ride the bike. And I do hope that you can. But until then, please hold your judgement. 🙏

Click. Bait. Rubbish. Unsubscribed.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

The footage is genuine. And so is the information. Your choice. ,🙏

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

Genuine footage. Genuine information. Your choice. 🙏

@user-zu6ir6kj5g

3 ай бұрын

Harsh - genuine bloke, genuine problem. Take a chill pill buddy!

@hellfire8395

3 ай бұрын

Cool your head buddy, information is genuine but I agree video can be compiled or worded better to avoid confusion

@B0M0A0K

3 ай бұрын

Everything you needed to know was in the title re: "Epic Fail". Maybe you need to go look for a less honest review.

As far as I know, an 800-825 mm saddle is available as an option, strange that the dealer wasn't aware of it. Cheers from Italy!

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

The stock seat (Which I tried) is adjustable from 825mm to 845 mm I believe. There is an option to change to an 805 mm seat. Sadly the dealer didn’t have it. But on my meteor 650 which is 740mm I am on tip toes. Until I lowered it recently 😂🙏

@corradospagnuolo614

3 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand Yes, there are actually two versions of the seat, both adjustable to two positions: 805-825 mm (optional) and 825-845 mm (stock). Strange that for the Asian market R.E. didn't think of the (as you say) local users, who are on average shorter in stature.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

@@corradospagnuolo614 ahhhhh. I was visiting family in the UK, and made the video there. I returned to Thailand a few days ago. 🙏