Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 Review - Addressing Issues

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I take a further look at the 2024 Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 and discuss some of the complaints

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  • @kugangles9860
    @kugangles98608 күн бұрын

    Kinda crazy people are complaining about vibrations on a 450 single. Uhhh yeah, it's a thumper. That's what they do!

  • @leeinwis

    @leeinwis

    7 күн бұрын

    My 2003 Suzuki LS650 is a one banger, doesn't vibrate except at a stand still.

  • @easy8077

    @easy8077

    7 күн бұрын

    People: *Get least balanced engine design, known for usually being the most* vibrating type Engine: *vibrates* People: 😮

  • @camiloherrera9268

    @camiloherrera9268

    4 күн бұрын

    @@leeinwis Sooo... It does vibrate innit?

  • @davidcoleman4941
    @davidcoleman49419 күн бұрын

    Hi from Australia I rode the Himalayan couple of weeks ago lovely bike, great pull, fantastic brakes. In fact I prefer the Himalayan to my Suzuki DRZ400E and Honda CRF300L, I've got my order in for my Himalayan with tubed tires. All I need next is a Classic 650cc twin and Shotgun 650 and my life will be complete also a scrambler

  • @rexmex5519

    @rexmex5519

    9 күн бұрын

    Why would you want a classic 650 and a shotgun 650. They are literally the same bikes.

  • @starseeddeluxe

    @starseeddeluxe

    8 күн бұрын

    Any person who rides a Himalayan 450 back to back against a Suzuki DRZ400, will want the Himalayan. That's because the Suzuki is a short stroke engine, with nearly no low end torque. The 2024 Himalayan is the only single cylinder motorcycle made today with a super long stroke engine. Long stroke engines are SO much more fun at low speed, it's like having twice the torque off idle, and twice the throttle response. For example, ride a DR350 from 1993, and it's FAR more enjoyable and feels MORE POWERFUL than a modern DRZ400, because the DR350 has a significantly longer stroke, and significantly more off idle torque. Royal Enfield went against modern trends, and did the unspeakable, by making a super long stroke engine. Long stroke engines haven't been in style since the 1960's. The 2nd Generation Hayabusa is a long stroke engine, which is why it's known for being such an enjoyable torquey bike to ride. The Honda Transalp 750 is a short stroke engine. Most all the new bikes are short stroke engines. It's actually shocking that Royal Enfield didn't follow the standard trend of making an ultra short stroke, high revving engine. A short stroke engine would have had significantly less vibration at speed, but it would have been dog slow on technical trails, and would have been much harder for beginners to ride fast. The new 450 engine has the following specifications: Bore and stroke is 84mm x 81.5 mm (3.307" x 3.208" inches). For a general comparison: Suzuki DRZ400: 90mm x 62.6mm (3.54" x 2.44" inches). Suzuki DR350: 79.0 mm × 71.2 mm Honda Transalp 750: 87.0mm x 63.5mm. Aprillia Tuereg: 81 mm x 63.93 mm. Suzuki DR650: 100.0 x 82.0mm.

  • @thebingleywheeler

    @thebingleywheeler

    8 күн бұрын

    Some great info there thank you 👍🏻

  • @johnanderson3412

    @johnanderson3412

    8 күн бұрын

    ' and my life will be complete' ..... 'also a scrambler' 😂 let's face it, there's no 'complete'!

  • @brockett
    @brockett9 күн бұрын

    When people want a Himalayan to ride at motorway speeds then what they really want is a differnet bike. A morotcycle should make the rider aware there is an engine down there, and the vibrations are just there to let the rider know how hard the engine is working. The riding pleasure:- Sound, feel, and movement. Maybe the only smooth silent ride will be when all is electric but that will be no fun what-so-ever.

  • @thebingleywheeler

    @thebingleywheeler

    8 күн бұрын

    Agree 100 percent

  • @Dozeyish
    @Dozeyish9 күн бұрын

    Ha ha that made me lol. "don't know about you but I expect a motorcycle to vibrate" Nice one.

  • @ianhughesroyalenfield
    @ianhughesroyalenfield9 күн бұрын

    Wow Dave, this is spooky. I revisited the Himi 450 a couple of days ago (will be edited tonight), riding it harder on normal roads, and taking it on the motorway to try and find those vibes people are reporting. I had read/heard people talking about the distracting vibes through the bars, more so than the footpegs….🤔 When you watch my offering, you will see just how similar our take on things (even regarding comparisons) are, just worded slightly differently. Some people might think I have copied you, but honestly, it was a couple of days ago. We are away from my computer until this afternoon, hence why it wasn’t released before this one of yours 😉. I do ride it a bit more…..well, let’s say….”spirited”, and will have to pixelate the speedo in places 😂 Nice review again, all the best.

  • @thebingleywheeler

    @thebingleywheeler

    8 күн бұрын

    No worries Ian like conclusions are good for my sanity. I couldn’t get it to unduly vibrate at any speed. I did take it on the bypass to see how close the three figures but didn’t film it 😎

  • @ianhughesroyalenfield

    @ianhughesroyalenfield

    8 күн бұрын

    @@thebingleywheelerI didn’t quite get to 3 figures, but did film it, just blurred the speedo 😉 it didn’t vibrate up there either 😂

  • @hctim96
    @hctim969 күн бұрын

    Old trick for vibrations was to loosen all the attachment points of the engine and then retorque to spec. That usually took care of some of the vibs.. If you remember the ST/Pan was a VERY smooth motor...Good vid btw. 🇨🇦🇬🇧🇺🇸

  • @robwilkguitar4458
    @robwilkguitar44589 күн бұрын

    A nice bike wouldn't knock it at all. However, I've gone with a Suzuki v-strom, bought it two weeks ago new from Appleyards Keighley couldn't have had a nicer experience. I've just managed to clock up just a nudge over two hundred miles on it and starting to get familiar with it, a lovely bike I have to say. The bike I've been riding for the past six years was a gl1800 so one heck of a difference , and to be expected. Appleyards did point this out on purchase but like you David, I'm at the stage in life where i have to be sensible and admit defeat as I'm the wrong side of seventy now. Could praise Appleyards enough, great dealership.

  • @volt8684

    @volt8684

    9 күн бұрын

    The vstrom has 70 bhp the same as a cb750/4 in the day a rocket ship in its time. I have a v strom am 66 and brilliant bike

  • @thebingleywheeler

    @thebingleywheeler

    8 күн бұрын

    You beat me though Rob my GL1800 went a few years ago back and I’m 61 😎

  • @TerraMagnus

    @TerraMagnus

    7 күн бұрын

    They aren’t comparable bikes.

  • @sumbawaroyalenfieldbiking8784
    @sumbawaroyalenfieldbiking87849 күн бұрын

    Great review, nice to see the English Countryside, for me the Vibrations occur when on highway when one is travelling at consistent higher speeds, it wasn't a game changer for me ,just something noticeable primarily in the handlebars, I'm comming off the original after doing 44000km across 7 countries, I'm moving to Chennai next week and going to buy the new 450, intresting in relation to the side stand if you have opposite lock on the handlebars prior to mounting it, the bike naturally sits upright, I had no issues or struggle at 5 foot 8 Cheers Noel

  • @thebingleywheeler

    @thebingleywheeler

    8 күн бұрын

    Thank you Noel yes good point there

  • @simonrichardson3167
    @simonrichardson31676 күн бұрын

    I test rode this bike and bought a tubeless one in white. On the test ride (it was on 250 miles) there were initially some uncomfortable high pitched vibes through the foot-pegs on the local bypass , although by the end of the test ride (a very warm engine?) i didn’t notice them. It is not a deal breaker for me. Try the Keighley bypass wheeler so you can hold 70mph region. The vibes may just be a running in/cold engine issue, as i say though not sufficient to be a deal breaker for me its a cracking all rounder, plush suspension , great brakes, and very comfortable and importantly fun

  • @chrisweeks6973
    @chrisweeks69738 күн бұрын

    Reasonable review, Dave. Some vibration on a 450 single? Who would have thought? It's a single, folks... 😉 Having started riding singles back in 1958 - and no, that's not a typo - it's something that one gets used to; it confirms that one is riding a motorcycle, rather than astride a 'fridge - or one's ex!

  • @martynpearce4754

    @martynpearce4754

    8 күн бұрын

    My 2010 Bonnie has vibrations, thats why I like it! But unless you dont wear gloves or boots then it ain't a problem 😂

  • @chrisweeks6973

    @chrisweeks6973

    8 күн бұрын

    @@martynpearce4754 I run an '05 Moto Guzzi, so I can well understand what you're saying! Back in the '60's I used to ride a sprung-hub Thunderbird, which also vibrated quite a bit. 😁

  • @thebingleywheeler

    @thebingleywheeler

    7 күн бұрын

    Cracking comment Chris 😂

  • @jimmyjam8795

    @jimmyjam8795

    7 күн бұрын

    Trouble is what sort of vibrations! I wanted this single to feel a bit more like my 660 single, but felt just like the 125s and 250s of my youth unfortunately. .

  • @user-rd7qu8kk6d
    @user-rd7qu8kk6d9 күн бұрын

    Leaning on the side stand always used to be a trait for off road types because it makes them easier to get onboard if you got little legs , something that i know a lot about as im only 5’6” and as a youth i loved my off road bikes

  • @johncranwell3783
    @johncranwell37839 күн бұрын

    Hey Dave, what a lovely second review on this bike….. much as I had a bit of a love affair with the 411. I definitely think this latest offering this morning in line with my desire for a big single with enough oomph to satisfy all types of riding comfortably. Thank you for all the details and thoroughness in your reviews….

  • @thebingleywheeler

    @thebingleywheeler

    8 күн бұрын

    Cheers John much appreciated

  • @user-ec9dh2oh5e
    @user-ec9dh2oh5e9 күн бұрын

    My first and then a second 411 was a instant LIKE..👌.having tryed 450 I feel its in the GROWER👍 category...atb...

  • @rogerwilliams2902
    @rogerwilliams29029 күн бұрын

    Lovely to see that mill chimney still standing at 9 mins in !.

  • @maskedavenger2578

    @maskedavenger2578

    8 күн бұрын

    I doubt it would still be standing if Fred was still around .

  • @momarsden3053
    @momarsden30539 күн бұрын

    Great vlog Dave thanks. Regards, Mo 😊👍

  • @andrewbrodis1239
    @andrewbrodis12399 күн бұрын

    When lifting any bike from it's left leaning side stand...first turn handlebars full right, then lift.

  • @pauloakes5718
    @pauloakes57188 күн бұрын

    Made my decision. Classic 500 to add to my stable.Got a funny feeling I’ll ride daily👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @diversionbob8482
    @diversionbob84829 күн бұрын

    @8:20 The road on your left there would have been perfect for the Himalayan! No through road except motorcycles and cycles! You'll have to take your viewers along there some time 👍

  • @tpcreeper2185
    @tpcreeper21858 күн бұрын

    First thing I would do with this bike is look for a proper windshield, second would be to replace that upper front fender to one more like on the original Himalayan. I dont like that enduro looking thing. Other than that, I would be happy with this bike. Currently, I have over 20,000 kms on my 2022 Himy. Other than just a little slow on open highways, I would keep it.

  • @Grumpysprout
    @Grumpysprout8 күн бұрын

    I wanted one. Ordered one just after the NEC 2023 ......tested the bike and was disappointed with the end product so much, so I cancelled it. I think the hype was better than the bike!

  • @michaela5311

    @michaela5311

    8 күн бұрын

    What didn’t you like about it? What sort of riding do you do and what you end up getting? Cheers

  • @mrgrizzlyrides
    @mrgrizzlyrides8 күн бұрын

    Great review Dave; agree with all that you said. I’ve got 10k on my 411 and Hera has done some really tough trails in and around the Yorkshire Dales and my engine bash plate has the dents, buckles and gouges to show. I haven’t rode the 450 but looking at it in my dealers it just seems to nice a bike to subject it to the bedrock, stones, ruts and river crossings of the North York Moors and Yorkshire Dales. Though I must admit a bit more powers on banks etc would be really nice, especially as I ride two up a lot too. A cracking bike that seems to answer most peoples issues with the 411’s engine and front brake performance etc. Of course switchable ABS helps greatly off road too. Nice one Dave; ride safe fella.

  • @thebingleywheeler

    @thebingleywheeler

    7 күн бұрын

    Cheers buddy you ride safe pal 👍🏻

  • @djrichylaurence8991
    @djrichylaurence89917 күн бұрын

    I had the 411. It was a great little bike. Never fancied the 450 so went back to a four cylinder rice burner. It doesn't vibrate at all.

  • @ianhalliwell8604
    @ianhalliwell86049 күн бұрын

    You forgot to mention the 400 Triumphs. Now to me the Enfield is far superior than the garage queen Triumph but then again at my age I'm possibly not its target audience. Great video on a great bike Dave.

  • @thebingleywheeler

    @thebingleywheeler

    8 күн бұрын

    Cheers Ian….i don’t much like the look of the triumphs

  • @themoog3889
    @themoog38898 күн бұрын

    Booked a test ride for Tuesday so ill find out for myself , itll make a real nice stable mate for my Interceptor ! I was considering the MT450 but as ive had a MotoMorini X-Cape languishing in the dealers since February and still can't bottom the issue im very reluctant to go down the chinese route again !

  • @TheBugsplat
    @TheBugsplat9 күн бұрын

    I took one out last week and rode it with the seat in the high position, Very comfortable until it got to 65mph on a dual carriageway, The vibration through the seat and into the rear of my butt was extremely uncomfortable , I will have another ride on a different demo bike just to see if it does the same. If it is then I might have to look at the CF Moto 450 as an alternative.

  • @ruelshakya15
    @ruelshakya157 күн бұрын

    There were some cases of the chasis breaking so i dont know about the reliability and its pretty heavy compared to my crf

  • @rishabhrajbhar8980
    @rishabhrajbhar89809 күн бұрын

    The reason for the lean in side stand is so that shorter riders can easily hop on to the saddle and the use their right leg to force the entire bike to stand upright. 😁

  • @MindfulMotorcyclist
    @MindfulMotorcyclist8 күн бұрын

    Nice video Dave. Im due to ride one soon, ive read about the vibrations, the stand and also that its down on power? Did you think it was powerful or should i say that it felt like 40hp? Cheers for the video, Sean

  • @thebingleywheeler

    @thebingleywheeler

    8 күн бұрын

    Thank you Sean I’ll be interested to see your take on it when you ride. It feels like more than 40 bhp probably because of the very long stroke engine which makes for more low rev punch…..let me know what you think buddy 👍🏻

  • @user-rd7qu8kk6d
    @user-rd7qu8kk6d9 күн бұрын

    My pals 411 used to vibrate through the pegs until it got to a thousand miles and he thought he got used to it but i had a go and we decided that the vibration is going as the miles go up

  • @hartley383
    @hartley3839 күн бұрын

    I currently own the 411 and love it but have yet to try the 450. I too have seen the very mixed reviews, some like yourself, singing very highly of it and Nathan Millward, who I know personally and have a great deal of respect for, who is a little less impressed. ( that’s not me saying I don’t respect your views). As you say, the differing thoughts on vibration does stand out. It’s quite possible that there are differences between bikes, I have seen this in other models. Another factor is how people ride, if a bike gets a bit of a shake on at the top of the rev range but the rider never winds it up there then there’s no problem. The next guy/ girl/ walnut or whatever may thrash the ti*s of it so to them it’s got a vibration issue. But possibly more significant is the differing sensitivity of people to vibration, some will ride a bike for an hour and have numb hands, others a 12 hour day an no issues whatsoever. As I said, I’ve yet to try the 450 but for me my attachment to my 411 is probably more likely to stop me trading it in more than anything. Keep up the good work mate. Oh yeah, Crosstourer was another one that leant over so far it was a real tug to get it upright too.

  • @thebingleywheeler

    @thebingleywheeler

    8 күн бұрын

    You may well have a point about different bikes having different issues. I didn’t bat an eyelid at the vibes but then I do ride a Guzzi 😎

  • @robertbryson4576
    @robertbryson45768 күн бұрын

    Good fair review BW. I'm pleased to see you out for another spin once the engine has a few more hours on it. A few thoughts from me. Maybe the real competition for the RE could be one of the CFmoto 450 twins. The MT in particular could fit the small adventure bike role nicely and the 270 degree crank should be very smooth. Appleyards sell both so Yorkshire folk will have the chance to rest ride both or even the NK version of the cf 450 - lucky sods!

  • @thebingleywheeler

    @thebingleywheeler

    8 күн бұрын

    450 mt review coming soon

  • @robertbryson4576

    @robertbryson4576

    8 күн бұрын

    Looking forward to that one Dave. It looks like a cracking bike and I just saw a picture of the new RE Guerilla. It looks interesting but I suspect we will see other bikes use that 450 single.

  • @martinlye7111
    @martinlye71119 күн бұрын

    Lovely to see ya again. Yorkshire Henry Cole. Makes me nod off every time. But I get the gist after watching several times. Keeps the views up lol 😂

  • @RideaGoodRoad
    @RideaGoodRoad8 күн бұрын

    I ride a brand that vibrates A LOT, and I would welcome less vibration as the aging process progresses. Rust never sleeps🥴. Question: is there a slight throttle delay in the Himalayan fly-by-wire? My wife rides a 2008 Harley Road King with a throttle delay that is annoying. I was told it’s “normal” (that bike is for sale.) We had HD bikes on the PD, and I feel it is time to part ways after many years.

  • @andrewbrodis1239
    @andrewbrodis12399 күн бұрын

    All the vibration complaints that I've seen reported are @ high RPMs (near 8,000RPM area).

  • @PAGallagher
    @PAGallagher8 күн бұрын

    Great review!!! Agree with your comments including the footpeg vibe thing. I cut my teeth on old BSAs (250 and 650) if you really want to talk vibrations 😁I have no interest in offroad or motorways etc but I think this new Himalayan will make a fantastic road bike ...... on interesting roads like the ones in your review. I took a test ride a few weeks ago and thought the engine might be a disappointment ....... how wrong I was! That 450 single packs a wonderful punch even from low down and keeps on pulling ....... the engine even looks good, considering it's water cooled, and the gearbox is just as slick as my Hntr 350 ..... yet another marvel from Royal Enfield. All the best, Phil (Somerset)

  • @thebingleywheeler

    @thebingleywheeler

    7 күн бұрын

    Cheers Phil yes the engine is a really pleasant surprise and is perfectly mapped…..long bore heaven 😎👍🏻

  • @duncancleverley6366
    @duncancleverley63668 күн бұрын

    Totally agree… all bikes vibrate and so they should. Riding a bike is all about the sensory experience and engagement with it aa an engine and machine. It’s about ‘feel’ and ‘feedback’ from the bike to the rider. I want to feel and hear what the engine is doing. I did a one hour test ride on one a couple of weeks back and thought it was a great riding experience.

  • @thebingleywheeler

    @thebingleywheeler

    7 күн бұрын

    Yes spot on Duncan bikes need to vibe and especially singles

  • @trucktruck8016
    @trucktruck80169 күн бұрын

    Nice review ,will you be reviewing the CF moto MT 450 anytime soon , as this appears to be the direct competitor to the RE Himalayan 450 !

  • @thebingleywheeler

    @thebingleywheeler

    8 күн бұрын

    Yes as soon as the demo arrives

  • @sergemoreillon1236
    @sergemoreillon12369 күн бұрын

    Thank you for the review. One remark about the side stand on trail bikes : my Himalayan 411 has a kit of suspensions and is 2 cm higher than normal as the 450. The stand being on the left side, it is much easier to lift it IF THE FRONT WHEEL POINTS FULLY TO THE RIGHT. I know that since my .. Yamaha 125 DTMX back in 1979 😉 Like the vibrations, those complaints repeted ALL the time on social medias exasperate me in the end! Like the 2 way to pronounce Himalayan is BORING my friends! STOP the epidemy please 😵‍💫 That bike is excellent, modern, not in the same segment of the market than the old one. A great bike to do everything. As a 2nd bike for the "lanes" and the today SLOW trafic, I choose the old one for the vintage air cooled 2 valves engine the make the 411 a proud member of the Bullet , Classic, Meteor or Hunter family ✌

  • @IanSixbikes-by6ei
    @IanSixbikes-by6ei7 күн бұрын

    Wonders never cease, people complaining about vibration on a single cylinder motorcycle, clearly they have led a sheltered life. As for the Himalayan 450 , it's a good looking motorcycle that's well equipped and competitively priced, it will I am sure will appeal to those bikers looking for a mid weight adventure bike (used to be called a Trial Bike back in the day) the only negative for me is the particular bike you tested was painted in such a bland non descript colour , which really didn't do it any favours.

  • @sussexbikerpillion
    @sussexbikerpillion9 күн бұрын

    Just checked my subscriber status and showed not subscribed? Although I did. It seems a few KZreadrs are experiencing this issue. As regards lifting bike of side stand try turning the bars fully clockwise first then lift bike up you will find it lifts up way easier 👍

  • @Orion-ob9ny
    @Orion-ob9ny7 күн бұрын

    Does the fuel tank have baffels?

  • @jimmyjam8795
    @jimmyjam87958 күн бұрын

    I still didn't like the vibrations because they made it feel like a 125/250, my choice to change my order to Shotgun 650 (which has vibrations that don't make it feel like a small bike) was the right choice. Its vibrations are great and the engine is fantasticly characterful. Love it!

  • @barryhughes1612
    @barryhughes16128 күн бұрын

    For what it's worth, I took delivery of my Himalayan 450 on 1st June, I have removed the rubber inserts on the riders footrests as I am not a fan of them and prefer the feel of the metal under my boots. It has to be said that I have not experienced any noticeable foot rest vibrations in the 265 miles that I have so far done. I owned a 411 before the 450 and the 411 vibrated more but it was not unpleasant. They are single cylinder motors after all so a little bit of mechanical harmony is expected.

  • @leeinwis

    @leeinwis

    7 күн бұрын

    Honda single cylinders don't vibe your fillings out..

  • @thebingleywheeler

    @thebingleywheeler

    7 күн бұрын

    Great points Barry

  • @egg-sk8kp
    @egg-sk8kp9 күн бұрын

    I don't like the integrated backlight system.

  • @paulyarwood7818
    @paulyarwood78188 күн бұрын

    Ive got the Scram 411, but i couldn't get the 450 upright off sidestand very heavy, and also much taller, i could only touch ground on tiptoe, not on my next bike list.

  • @derekbelton9384
    @derekbelton93849 күн бұрын

    I rode the original Himalayan & the bike stood far too upright for my liking & saw lots of comments saying the same. Maybe that's why they've changed it. I didn't like the seat on the original. I seemed to slope forwards & crush my nards against the tank! Does the new one do that too?

  • @MudaholicJR
    @MudaholicJR7 күн бұрын

    Completely disagree about the vibrations, above 90kmh in top through to 130 the vibes are intrusive.

  • @maskedavenger2578
    @maskedavenger25789 күн бұрын

    I can’t understand why people complain about vibes in footrests . They are getting a free foot massage as an added bonus . I would be more concerned about ,unnecessary gubbins such as fly by wire throttle & quick shifter on what’s supposed to be an adventure bike . My choice if after a Himalayan would be a good used or pre registered 411 for a bargain price, it also looks better & the 25 hp is adequate for ,what I require on this type of motorcycle .

  • @idontwantahandle12345

    @idontwantahandle12345

    8 күн бұрын

    FYI… The 450 has fly by wire throttle

  • @maskedavenger2578

    @maskedavenger2578

    8 күн бұрын

    @@idontwantahandle12345 I know the 450 has a fly by wire throttle I mentioned that fact in my comment . It’s one of the reasons i am not a fan of the 450 & prefer the 411 Himalayan that has a proper throttle cable & less tech . Less tech is a big advantage on these types of bikes, the less to cause potential issues ,& leave the rider stranded miles from civilisation .

  • @idontwantahandle12345

    @idontwantahandle12345

    8 күн бұрын

    @@maskedavenger2578 sorry misread your comment. 🙄

  • @maskedavenger2578

    @maskedavenger2578

    8 күн бұрын

    @@idontwantahandle12345 OK no problem 👍

  • @stevegresty4181
    @stevegresty41819 күн бұрын

    Cracking review TBW, once little quirks like the vibrations through the pegs, are pointed out to then it can sometimes become a fixation too. Unfortunately, you Sir are now guilty of the same, since you mentioned the screen, I can't get Darth Vader outta my head 🤣🤣🤣, Lovely bike though, thanks for the video.

  • @thebingleywheeler

    @thebingleywheeler

    8 күн бұрын

    Cheers Steve…The Vader Screen! 😎

  • @malcolmmathers2690
    @malcolmmathers26909 күн бұрын

    referen vibrations i havent rode the 450 2 yet but i have rode 4ts and up to recent bikes some off the vibes wingers should ride some older bikes then they would know about vibes perhaps

  • @stevecoppin4278
    @stevecoppin42789 күн бұрын

    Good Morning Dave , Thanks again for another review on the Himalayan 450 , tbh i think the cf moto 450 will do some damage to sales on the himi , take care & ride safe

  • @slakk5093

    @slakk5093

    9 күн бұрын

    The Australian himi 450 fb group has about 600 members, the CFMoto 450 group has 1600 members. I wonder if that reflects sales too

  • @thebingleywheeler

    @thebingleywheeler

    8 күн бұрын

    Cheers Steve CF Moto 450 coming soon

  • @duncanblanchard334
    @duncanblanchard3349 күн бұрын

    The triumph speed 400 has significant vibrations at high speeds which make motorway riding unpleasant, but very few people have mentioned it. I’d take the himmy personally.👍.

  • @drive4yourlife
    @drive4yourlife9 күн бұрын

    im just not getting the 2 front splash guards, IMO it looks more like a scrambler hence the lean angle on the side stand but then they decided to stick the top splash guard on to give it an adventure bike look, might just be me being a northern monkey but if you had a choice between the Himalayan or a Triumph Scramble 400X which would you pick ?

  • @thebingleywheeler

    @thebingleywheeler

    8 күн бұрын

    Hmmm not the Triumph really

  • @stevenfox7378

    @stevenfox7378

    8 күн бұрын

    From what I've seen both bikes had aftermarket lower protection bars from a different manufacturer and they were either a bad fit or not torqued up correctly therefore the frame to engine flexed causing the frame to stress crack and fail.

  • @mynxl
    @mynxl8 күн бұрын

    Something could be done about the side stand but the centre stand would have to be modified or removed.

  • @jimmydickson8854
    @jimmydickson8854Күн бұрын

    I like the power of the bike ,and the barrenness of the bike no crap plastic on it the suspension is ok to good for our Australian dirt roads and we got plenty ,old jimmy WA

  • @peteneal8344
    @peteneal83449 күн бұрын

    I have heard this week, but there is two frames that have failed. Have you heard anything?

  • @thebingleywheeler

    @thebingleywheeler

    8 күн бұрын

    Not heard that

  • @Iamindusgamer
    @Iamindusgamer8 күн бұрын

    He dude review Apache 310 i wana buy one ❤love from Georgia

  • @ironkcirb285
    @ironkcirb2859 күн бұрын

    Vibes what vibes ?,go try a Harley shovelhead if you want your teeth rattling and your pillion all hot and sweaty😉. Myself i will wait until they come out with that srcam 450.

  • @howardmann5634
    @howardmann56349 күн бұрын

    I think the cf moto 450 mt will take the Himalayans crown on price and fun factor

  • @johnharris7353

    @johnharris7353

    9 күн бұрын

    Yeah it looks funny alright !!!

  • @MindfulMotorcyclist

    @MindfulMotorcyclist

    8 күн бұрын

    CF is coming for the 450!

  • @zedcharlie
    @zedcharlie9 күн бұрын

    Who cares about refinement if they are fun to ride.... It's the same with bikes as well 😳😁

  • @tomrox8921
    @tomrox89217 күн бұрын

    Would you recommend it for new riders? Thank you.

  • @thebingleywheeler

    @thebingleywheeler

    6 күн бұрын

    Yes I would

  • @backontwowheels9469
    @backontwowheels94696 күн бұрын

    I have paid for mine and should be picking it up tomorrow, just in time for the ABR festival but my insurer Bennetts don’t have an insurance price for it, If you have one, which insurance company did you use? HEEEEELP

  • @thebingleywheeler

    @thebingleywheeler

    5 күн бұрын

    I use Bennett’s multi bike policy….just go through money supermarket and pick the cheapest 😊👍🏻

  • @tpp6432
    @tpp64328 күн бұрын

    People complaining about the vibrations on a single are riding the wrong bike. Of course they vibrate. I have a Scram 411, it vibrates, i had a 2022 KLR, it vibrated, rode a WR 250R guess what, it vibrated. I would wager that the new Ducati 698 Mono even has some vibrations. I think some people comment about vibrations because thats what everybody else says or what they think is the right thing to say. Too many parrots on youtube. Good to hear someone with some common sense commenting that a single cylinder engine vibrates a little.

  • @jerzywoking1699
    @jerzywoking16993 күн бұрын

    I had a 411 for 5 years that I just traded in for a 452. There seems to be a lot of hate for the 452 from 411 owners, particularly regarding vibration. As the 411 is as smooth as silk then? If you want to see how much a single vibrates, get a ride on a Yamaha XT500. Absolutely horrendous

  • @TerraMagnus
    @TerraMagnus7 күн бұрын

    Most of my beef is about the instrumentation + mobile integration, which will only be useful for a few years. I’d rather have an analog instrument that stays 100% useful forever, and put all the mobile integration into a replaceable nav device.

  • @vaerenbergh
    @vaerenbergh5 күн бұрын

    People complaining about leaning to far on its side stand is a bit dumb, if the bike leans straigter it is easier to tip over the other side, either by passerby jackasses or by putting it on uneven ground. If you want it straight up there is a CENTERSTAND. Its not on a 45° leanangle

  • @carlocristofani
    @carlocristofani8 күн бұрын

    🇮🇹TYVM! Grazie!...

  • @idontwantahandle12345
    @idontwantahandle123458 күн бұрын

    Side Stand lean. Apparently, I read this on an Indian RE website, the reason the side stand has such a lean is following requests from 411 owners. It seems that the 411 lean wasn’t enough and users have experienced their bikes being blown over in high winds. So RE reacted to user requests and so we have the 450 with more rake.

  • @johnharvey5338
    @johnharvey53389 күн бұрын

    The CF 450 is the closest competitor on price, and seems to match the top spec one for the price of the base model, be good to compare the two.

  • @adityan3208

    @adityan3208

    9 күн бұрын

    Tbh Being an Indian, even I admit that the CFmoto is a substantially better proposition.

  • @DaveSunderland
    @DaveSunderland9 күн бұрын

    I had a tubeless on my GS but what is the Advantage of tubeless over tubed tyre?

  • @thebingleywheeler

    @thebingleywheeler

    8 күн бұрын

    Easier roadside puncture fix in tubeless

  • @DaveSunderland

    @DaveSunderland

    5 күн бұрын

    @@thebingleywheelerstrangely good explanation on Wiki….. never thought of punctures before.

  • @jonathandeeley6276
    @jonathandeeley62769 күн бұрын

    For me its another generic bike and has lost the Royal Enfield DNA. Take the badges away and it could be anything, however it will draw its followers. I much prefer the agricultural feel and look of the original 411 which I've owned, with new ones still available I understand its still selling well. I too have heard issues around vibrations through the bars and pegs, rough running at low RPM and the dreaded stand, I struggled with it. I understand also there have been a couple of instances with broken frames. There is some serious competition out there that the Himalayan is going to have to compete with such as the much anticipated CF Moto which everyone seems to be raving about. Horses for courses I suppose and each to their own but it doesn't flick any of my switches and as a Royal Enfield fan I'll be sticking with my Classic 350 and Meteor 350. Fair review though.🙂👍

  • @MindfulMotorcyclist

    @MindfulMotorcyclist

    8 күн бұрын

    Great comment Jonathan

  • @alanpestell8657
    @alanpestell86579 күн бұрын

    Thanks

  • @thebingleywheeler

    @thebingleywheeler

    8 күн бұрын

    Thank you Alan that’s very kind and much appreciated

  • @kristophertrout7328
    @kristophertrout73288 күн бұрын

    I wonder if those footpeg pads had been removed when those riders experienced the vibrations. 🤔😎

  • @leeinwis

    @leeinwis

    7 күн бұрын

    Honda single cylinders don't vibe your fillings out..

  • @kristophertrout7328

    @kristophertrout7328

    7 күн бұрын

    @@leeinwis no... but I once owned a VT 500 Ascot that would buzz my hands into paralysis.

  • @cloggsy1971
    @cloggsy19718 күн бұрын

    Being honest, I do think the CF Moto 450 MT looks a better prospect than this, unfortunately. Rest Day Rider has just bought one and is waxing lyrical about it... Would love you know your thoughts :)

  • @thebingleywheeler

    @thebingleywheeler

    8 күн бұрын

    Review coming soon 😎

  • @Vote.ReformUK
    @Vote.ReformUK9 күн бұрын

    Looking at the price of the original, I'd just buy that and if you want you can big bore it for cheaper later on if you get bored.

  • @stevematthews641
    @stevematthews6418 күн бұрын

    Is the vibration something that will go away with more kms on the bike

  • @idontwantahandle12345

    @idontwantahandle12345

    8 күн бұрын

    It is being reported by owners, not media bikes, that after proper running in and first service the vibrations do reduce, though they are not nearly as bad as people report. I picked my Kamet White one up on Thursday, so too early to comment.

  • @leeinwis

    @leeinwis

    7 күн бұрын

    @@idontwantahandle12345 Will you tell the truth when you find out ?

  • @nikoscosmos
    @nikoscosmos9 күн бұрын

    The rear lamp appears to be missing 🎉

  • @thebingleywheeler

    @thebingleywheeler

    8 күн бұрын

    Integrated into indicators

  • @nikoscosmos

    @nikoscosmos

    8 күн бұрын

    ​@thebingleywheeler how BMWish!

  • @yellownev
    @yellownev9 күн бұрын

    Where it is marketed in one area as an improvement on the 411 is motorway speeds … the vibes really do come in then so much so the mirrors are useless. 60 and 80 less so but 70 very noticeable. The side stand and lack of low seat option when I had a three hour test ride made me as a 5’6” rider struggle to get the bike upright and that was without luggage. It’s a great bike no doubt and I’ll have another test ride but well overhyped by the India and Sardinia launches that were in my opinion a bit of an insult to us riders who soon found the ‘issues’. That and the appalling comms from RE to riders like me who put a deposit down certainly turned me off the bike. Interesting the CF Moto 450 is now arriving and being ordered and getting very positive reviews from actual riders ( yes I count you in that category no insult intended) not sure you’ve done a cf moto 450 review yet but will watch with interest on your conclusion as to which bike you’d have between the two. All my views of course if you have a 452 I hope you are enjoying it. I’ll keep my 18k 411 for a while yet Thanks for the content.

  • @thebingleywheeler

    @thebingleywheeler

    8 күн бұрын

    Cheers….CF Moto 450 coming soon 👍🏻

  • @quentendawson81
    @quentendawson818 күн бұрын

    G’day Mate, Watch how Adam Riemann takes out an inner tube using the base of the stand of the Himi 450. Tibetan Adventure Ariemann1. Ingenious on the part of Adam and RE

  • @jimmydickson8854
    @jimmydickson88548 күн бұрын

    There’s a video of an Indian guy with a broken frame on the 450 Himalayan ,he says the engine is part of the frame or it’s bad steel or welding ,don’t know if it’s true or not ,or some one is trying to discredit Royal Enfield ,this is not good for the new bike ,check it out ,just commenting on what I saw ,the 450 is good value and it dose every thing it says on the tin

  • @flyingkiwi215

    @flyingkiwi215

    8 күн бұрын

    It’s due to aftermarket crash bars being fitted to stressed members and not torqued properly

  • @RufusCapstick
    @RufusCapstick8 күн бұрын

    My XR Sportster will shuffle off down the road, on it's own, purely from the vibration 😆 Vibration it's part and parcel of the experience IMO. It's bizarre, some people get hold of a nugget of information and by heck they will run with it. "Vibration, what about the vibration, I'm mortified by the vibration, I'd never buy it because of the viiiiibraaaaaation" ffs. Probably the same people have never ridden it and would never buy the bike anyway. Perhaps it's some need to be relevant and in on the conversation.

  • @leeinwis
    @leeinwis7 күн бұрын

    I like my vibration free CRF rally.

  • @DCGULL01
    @DCGULL019 күн бұрын

    Sorry it took so long to giver a Thumb!!!

  • @thomasegan1551
    @thomasegan15512 күн бұрын

    Anyone else think it's an ugly bike? The petrol tank looks like the top half of a headless shop dummy.

  • @Paul-fv4no
    @Paul-fv4no8 күн бұрын

    Aaaaay uupp Stu baby.

  • @thebingleywheeler

    @thebingleywheeler

    8 күн бұрын

    I did “aayup” long before Stu….i think he copied me! 😂

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