I have a classic 350 which has done 320 miles with the first service due next week. Yesterday at 40mph in 5th the bike miss fired, about 4 blips in 10 seconds which is exactly the same issue you mention. Thankfully I watched ever video on KZread on the classic before I bought it and I remembered your video. This morning it took me all of 10 minutes to clear out a huge amount of gunk from the relays and housing. This is something I would never have tried without your video, hopefully it's sorted the issue. Thanks to guys like you who know your stuff putting up brilliant content and tips to help out mechanical dumkoff's like me. Brilliant channel mate, thanks for your help!
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Richard for those kind words which are very much appreciated. Since the relay swap my Classic has been faultless 😎👍🏻
@reedebrown600611 ай бұрын
Looking to get a classic 350 in the near future. Videos like this are priceless to someone like me who knows nothing about motorcycles! Thanks for sharing your many experiences.
@thebingleywheeler
11 ай бұрын
Thank you you’re most welcome
@roberthocking9138 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had the same slight miss in my 350 classic in AUS and thought it was a lean fuel mixture issue, now I know what the real cause was. Well done thanks. 👍
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
Hope it works for you buddy 👍🏻
@petejones1957 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic, might do the preventative maintenance, good job for a wet winters day. I was watching with the generated subtitles on, and when you gave the engine a bit of a rev at the end, the subtitle generated by the sound came up as "applause".... brilliant! haha
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
Now that’s hilarious 😂
@roberthocking9138 Жыл бұрын
Further to my prev comment, I have now opened my 2022 350 classic up and found my relays to be even worse than yours. Not sure if it’s fixed my miss yet but your video was spot on in every detail. Save for one, they have now included a little clip on one side of the relay which you have to pop open before you can remove it. Mine was an April 22 model. Thanks again for taking the time to film it. Greetings from AUS. 👍 I wouldn’t have had the confidence to remove the cover if not for your vid
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
So glad you found it useful….interesting re the chip as my 350 is (supposed to be) an August 2022….it was the last green one in the UK
@roberthocking9138
Жыл бұрын
@@thebingleywheeler mine is also halcyon green 👍
@RiderOftheNorth1968
Жыл бұрын
@@roberthocking9138 Halcyon Green, the most beautiful of the bunch.
@albarclay4882 Жыл бұрын
Really useful video, thanks. Just today, 2 miles from the end of a 30 mile run, doing just under 50 in 5th and engine missed 3 times in quick succession. I remembered your video and inspected my relays. They look like someone was practicing icing a christmas cake. I used dental brushes and cotton buds to get the majority off. Will probably buy some Hitcocks or genuine Bosch replacements. Cheers
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
Yes that’s exactly what happened to me……let me know how you get on buddy 👍🏻
@albarclay4882
Жыл бұрын
Hi, I decided to replace the relays, so I cleaned the sockets completely and applied small amounts of dielectric grease. Then new relays. 🤞
@davericketts9101 Жыл бұрын
I am SO glad I saw this video, like many other Classic 350 owners, no doubt. I haven`t read all the other comments but I am sure others will be doing this easy maintenance jobs, as I will tomorrow, even though I haven`t personally had any problems as yet. Many thanks
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
It’s a good preventative measure even if you don’t currently have issues
@dinomalta712 Жыл бұрын
Ride with Warro in Oz fixed the infamous Classic 350 speedo problem , same as your relay fix, shift the grease and job done, He even got a new speedo from Enfield, that arrived just after his fix. Hope this helps Enfield owners too. Cheers, DINO
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Dino 👍🏻
@alessandrorosas70423 ай бұрын
Olá amigo, muito boa sua explicação, você poderia dizer qual a função de cada um desses relés? Algum deles estando defeituoso pode impedir a moto de dar a partida? Thanks from Brasil!
@sissonsk5 ай бұрын
This works. I had the 5th gear stutter problem and cleaning the relay contacts stopped the stutter.
@jakeford2301 Жыл бұрын
I haven’t had this problem, but if I see it, I don’t know where to go first thank you very much
@jakeford2301
Жыл бұрын
I will know where to go first
@michealgillman7418 Жыл бұрын
Only had one misfire, but im gonna check my relays !! Thanks for the heads up mate!
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
You’re most welcome 🙏
@joshuaward35374 ай бұрын
Hey bud I the 22 model and would like to know whats the names of those relays and where to order them ? Plus what's going on with mine is no cranking sesms like its not getting power to the starter. .
@AnthonySheridan-ey7ij Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this. My Classic 350 would "miss" twice in quick succession on almost every ride and the dealer suggested I change to E5 fuel, but it made no difference. After cleaning excess grease from the fuel pump relay as per your instructions the problem is fixed. At no time did the engine management light come on but I wonder if the computer assigned a "pending" code because the fault was intermittent.
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
Thank you and you are most welcome. Code readers for the Enfields are reasonably priced for ultimate peace of mind but if the problem seems fixed I’d live with the uncertainty. My engine light never came on and the bike is running sweet😊👍🏻
@josephleister91986 ай бұрын
Very helpful video, thank you
@robertnajman9505 Жыл бұрын
Hi guys, thanks for the nice video with the RE Classic 350 relay problem. I wouldn't expect such problems with a new machine... When I clean and lubricate the relay on my machine do I have to disconnect the battery and contacts? Thanks for the information and have a nice Christmas.Robert from the Czech Republic
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
Hi Robert many thanks….no you do not need to disconnect the battery…just remove/clean/replace the relays. Best wishes 👍🏻
@robertnajman9505
Жыл бұрын
Bingley-Thanks for the advice, you helped me a lot...I wish you good health and happiness.
@the.just.able.biker67 Жыл бұрын
I've had that stuttering feeling from my classic 350, but the bike also jumps from 5th down to 4th gear as well.!! It turns out that if you're chain is running a bit slack then this can happen. I tried this theory out and sure enough, I never have any stuttering problems or the gear jumping when the chain's properly adjusted. The headlight plug is also caked in grease. I found that out when I did my headlight bulb change video.
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
That’s very useful thank you if I think on I’ll mention that on the channel thank you again 😊👍🏻
@stup1299 Жыл бұрын
That white grease is everywhere on my Classic 350. Useful but over applied. Better than nowt though and a mark of Enfield's new found enthusiasm for quality
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
Yes just needs cleaning up to avoid the shorting issues 👍🏻
@philiphotham5464 Жыл бұрын
Is that black grommet on the rhs placed ok to presumably protecr the thick black cable entry ?
@churchoftheroad4625 Жыл бұрын
Did this problem contribute to the bike not starting at all? Mine just clicks rapidly when I hit the starter button, and doesn't start.
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
No not starting it sounds like you have a battery issue
@bikahjoeUK
4 ай бұрын
Mine has just started to click like yours on pushing the starter. Did you solve your problem? Was it the battery?
@kengilly86710 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great video..... my engine light came on the other day perhaps this may be the problem ....If anyone knows how to get rid of the engine warning light could they please let me know Cheers
@thebingleywheeler
10 ай бұрын
Thank you Ken….REs love to throw up the occasional engine light…..check the 02 sensor connection at both ends otherwise I’d guess after a few start/stops it will go out 👍🏻
@TheMegashorts Жыл бұрын
On my last ride on the Meteor I had 4 coughs in a few seconds at about 50mph in 5th. No problems at all in the last 2500 miles. Lots of grease on the relays but the stuff on the EMS & fuel pump ones had started to discolour. Is it breaking down with heat? All cleaned off now.
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
I hear that the issue is made worse by heat 👍🏻
@birasobrerodas Жыл бұрын
Just make sure you save all that grease you removed from the relays for lubing the drive chain!!! LOL 😂 Man, that’s a LOT of grease. My Classic 350 haven’t had any issues but I’ll surely check it out and clean it properly (and apply some proper dielectric grease). Greetings from Brazil!
@fantomas3066 Жыл бұрын
Bonjour, C'est quoi cette purée ? Je vais chercher ma machine samedi matin, heureusement que je visionne votre vidéo. C'est possible de donner un coup de soufflette pour enlever la graisse ? Je vais demander au concessionnaire de m'informer sur ce problème. Merci ✌️
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
Merci…..oui c’est possible avec un compresseur ou un aerosol d’air etc mais c’est tres important n’oubliez vous pas garder en peu de graisse ou postuler en peu de nouveau graisse 👍🏻
@fantomas3066
Жыл бұрын
@@thebingleywheeler Merci pour l'info 👍 Bonne route ✌️
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
Felicitations
@peteb2304 Жыл бұрын
Why RE continues to use these failure-prone relays along with gobs of lithium grease despite continued problems escapes me. Really enjoying your content!
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
Indeed…..I’ve ordered new ones as my missus works at Denso and they’re cheap enough
@timboharty7325
Жыл бұрын
Can you let us know the part numbers for the relay s and where to get them , many thanks
@TictacAddict1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting.
@morrisminor56 Жыл бұрын
Good, now I know where the relays are, though I thought there were 5 not 3.
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
I’m guessing it’s that fuel pump relay which is at the root of the problem
@jerbunch Жыл бұрын
I have the same exact issue. 5th gear around 52-54 mph. Took it to dealer. They couldn’t reproduce the issue but it happened again on the way home. I cleaned the grease out. Not fixed. Installed three new relays from Hitchcocks. Still not fixed. Am curious has your problem been fixed, wondering have you ridden it to find out. Thanks in advance.
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
Hi yes I’ve replaced all 4 relays now and she’s running perfectly 👍🏻
@jerbunch
Жыл бұрын
@@thebingleywheeler C350 only has 3 that I know of.
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
@@jerbunch see my latest video….there are 4 😊👍🏻
@jerbunch
Жыл бұрын
@@thebingleywheelerApologies, so there is a fourth!!! Not anticipating that last one to fix my problem, but I’ll clean it just the same!!!!!!! Thank you
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
@@jerbunch no worries it was months before I realised myself 😂
@markfraser6307 Жыл бұрын
Should be a recall
@WyreForestBiker Жыл бұрын
Very poor that RE hasn't sorted this issue, It's been going on for years on various models. Worryingly looking at many YT videos, reading forums and from friends personal experience it is not the only case of inferior quality components being used in quite a few areas.
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
I’ve ordered new relays just in case 👍🏻
@gurjinderhundal7045 Жыл бұрын
Hi buddy... I owned classic 350 reborn only 2 months old, one day suddenly I noticed while driving my bike shut off at idle rpm or while standing it's idle rpm too low that it shut off the engine itself...after sometimes my bike running fine so could it be due greasy relay as you... showed in video
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
Hi I think those relays are a very likely cause….I would clean them out or replace them (quality replacements are fairly cheap) and see how you go….let me know how you get on buddy 👍🏻
@gurjinderhundal7045
Жыл бұрын
@@thebingleywheeler thanks buddy ...sure I will do that..
@gurjinderhundal7045
Жыл бұрын
Hi dino , still having same problem I have cleaned extra grease from relay ...at idle rpm my bike shut down.. problem is at idle rpm only.. could it be problem with O2 sensor or any other suggestions... thanks
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
@@gurjinderhundal7045 hi again have you tried replacing the relays or swapping them around. Try changing the one marked for fuel with one of the others or replace them all with better relays (they are cheap to buy)….if problem persists get a diagnostic tool or get a mechanic to do a diagnostic to see if the ecu is throwing out any error codes
@gurjinderhundal7045
Жыл бұрын
@@thebingleywheeler hi, thanks for replying, already done diagnostic it doesn't show any errors otherthings , can we swap relays with one another like power reply can be swap with fuel relay is it all of them have same powers..thanks
@chriswatts6161 Жыл бұрын
Did this cause the engine management light to come on?
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
No not at all
@chriswatts6161
Жыл бұрын
@@thebingleywheeler ah ok, I've been out for a spin today , I've got 250 miles on the bike and the light has come on, not sure why. Bike is running fine tho
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
@@chriswatts6161 one for the 300 mile service to sort?
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I have a classic 350 which has done 320 miles with the first service due next week. Yesterday at 40mph in 5th the bike miss fired, about 4 blips in 10 seconds which is exactly the same issue you mention. Thankfully I watched ever video on KZread on the classic before I bought it and I remembered your video. This morning it took me all of 10 minutes to clear out a huge amount of gunk from the relays and housing. This is something I would never have tried without your video, hopefully it's sorted the issue. Thanks to guys like you who know your stuff putting up brilliant content and tips to help out mechanical dumkoff's like me. Brilliant channel mate, thanks for your help!
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Richard for those kind words which are very much appreciated. Since the relay swap my Classic has been faultless 😎👍🏻
Looking to get a classic 350 in the near future. Videos like this are priceless to someone like me who knows nothing about motorcycles! Thanks for sharing your many experiences.
@thebingleywheeler
11 ай бұрын
Thank you you’re most welcome
I’ve had the same slight miss in my 350 classic in AUS and thought it was a lean fuel mixture issue, now I know what the real cause was. Well done thanks. 👍
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
Hope it works for you buddy 👍🏻
Fantastic, might do the preventative maintenance, good job for a wet winters day. I was watching with the generated subtitles on, and when you gave the engine a bit of a rev at the end, the subtitle generated by the sound came up as "applause".... brilliant! haha
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
Now that’s hilarious 😂
Further to my prev comment, I have now opened my 2022 350 classic up and found my relays to be even worse than yours. Not sure if it’s fixed my miss yet but your video was spot on in every detail. Save for one, they have now included a little clip on one side of the relay which you have to pop open before you can remove it. Mine was an April 22 model. Thanks again for taking the time to film it. Greetings from AUS. 👍 I wouldn’t have had the confidence to remove the cover if not for your vid
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
So glad you found it useful….interesting re the chip as my 350 is (supposed to be) an August 2022….it was the last green one in the UK
@roberthocking9138
Жыл бұрын
@@thebingleywheeler mine is also halcyon green 👍
@RiderOftheNorth1968
Жыл бұрын
@@roberthocking9138 Halcyon Green, the most beautiful of the bunch.
Really useful video, thanks. Just today, 2 miles from the end of a 30 mile run, doing just under 50 in 5th and engine missed 3 times in quick succession. I remembered your video and inspected my relays. They look like someone was practicing icing a christmas cake. I used dental brushes and cotton buds to get the majority off. Will probably buy some Hitcocks or genuine Bosch replacements. Cheers
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
Yes that’s exactly what happened to me……let me know how you get on buddy 👍🏻
@albarclay4882
Жыл бұрын
Hi, I decided to replace the relays, so I cleaned the sockets completely and applied small amounts of dielectric grease. Then new relays. 🤞
I am SO glad I saw this video, like many other Classic 350 owners, no doubt. I haven`t read all the other comments but I am sure others will be doing this easy maintenance jobs, as I will tomorrow, even though I haven`t personally had any problems as yet. Many thanks
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
It’s a good preventative measure even if you don’t currently have issues
Ride with Warro in Oz fixed the infamous Classic 350 speedo problem , same as your relay fix, shift the grease and job done, He even got a new speedo from Enfield, that arrived just after his fix. Hope this helps Enfield owners too. Cheers, DINO
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Dino 👍🏻
Olá amigo, muito boa sua explicação, você poderia dizer qual a função de cada um desses relés? Algum deles estando defeituoso pode impedir a moto de dar a partida? Thanks from Brasil!
This works. I had the 5th gear stutter problem and cleaning the relay contacts stopped the stutter.
I haven’t had this problem, but if I see it, I don’t know where to go first thank you very much
@jakeford2301
Жыл бұрын
I will know where to go first
Only had one misfire, but im gonna check my relays !! Thanks for the heads up mate!
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
You’re most welcome 🙏
Hey bud I the 22 model and would like to know whats the names of those relays and where to order them ? Plus what's going on with mine is no cranking sesms like its not getting power to the starter. .
Thanks so much for this. My Classic 350 would "miss" twice in quick succession on almost every ride and the dealer suggested I change to E5 fuel, but it made no difference. After cleaning excess grease from the fuel pump relay as per your instructions the problem is fixed. At no time did the engine management light come on but I wonder if the computer assigned a "pending" code because the fault was intermittent.
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
Thank you and you are most welcome. Code readers for the Enfields are reasonably priced for ultimate peace of mind but if the problem seems fixed I’d live with the uncertainty. My engine light never came on and the bike is running sweet😊👍🏻
Very helpful video, thank you
Hi guys, thanks for the nice video with the RE Classic 350 relay problem. I wouldn't expect such problems with a new machine... When I clean and lubricate the relay on my machine do I have to disconnect the battery and contacts? Thanks for the information and have a nice Christmas.Robert from the Czech Republic
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
Hi Robert many thanks….no you do not need to disconnect the battery…just remove/clean/replace the relays. Best wishes 👍🏻
@robertnajman9505
Жыл бұрын
Bingley-Thanks for the advice, you helped me a lot...I wish you good health and happiness.
I've had that stuttering feeling from my classic 350, but the bike also jumps from 5th down to 4th gear as well.!! It turns out that if you're chain is running a bit slack then this can happen. I tried this theory out and sure enough, I never have any stuttering problems or the gear jumping when the chain's properly adjusted. The headlight plug is also caked in grease. I found that out when I did my headlight bulb change video.
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
That’s very useful thank you if I think on I’ll mention that on the channel thank you again 😊👍🏻
That white grease is everywhere on my Classic 350. Useful but over applied. Better than nowt though and a mark of Enfield's new found enthusiasm for quality
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
Yes just needs cleaning up to avoid the shorting issues 👍🏻
Is that black grommet on the rhs placed ok to presumably protecr the thick black cable entry ?
Did this problem contribute to the bike not starting at all? Mine just clicks rapidly when I hit the starter button, and doesn't start.
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
No not starting it sounds like you have a battery issue
@bikahjoeUK
4 ай бұрын
Mine has just started to click like yours on pushing the starter. Did you solve your problem? Was it the battery?
Thanks for the great video..... my engine light came on the other day perhaps this may be the problem ....If anyone knows how to get rid of the engine warning light could they please let me know Cheers
@thebingleywheeler
10 ай бұрын
Thank you Ken….REs love to throw up the occasional engine light…..check the 02 sensor connection at both ends otherwise I’d guess after a few start/stops it will go out 👍🏻
On my last ride on the Meteor I had 4 coughs in a few seconds at about 50mph in 5th. No problems at all in the last 2500 miles. Lots of grease on the relays but the stuff on the EMS & fuel pump ones had started to discolour. Is it breaking down with heat? All cleaned off now.
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
I hear that the issue is made worse by heat 👍🏻
Just make sure you save all that grease you removed from the relays for lubing the drive chain!!! LOL 😂 Man, that’s a LOT of grease. My Classic 350 haven’t had any issues but I’ll surely check it out and clean it properly (and apply some proper dielectric grease). Greetings from Brazil!
Bonjour, C'est quoi cette purée ? Je vais chercher ma machine samedi matin, heureusement que je visionne votre vidéo. C'est possible de donner un coup de soufflette pour enlever la graisse ? Je vais demander au concessionnaire de m'informer sur ce problème. Merci ✌️
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
Merci…..oui c’est possible avec un compresseur ou un aerosol d’air etc mais c’est tres important n’oubliez vous pas garder en peu de graisse ou postuler en peu de nouveau graisse 👍🏻
@fantomas3066
Жыл бұрын
@@thebingleywheeler Merci pour l'info 👍 Bonne route ✌️
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
Felicitations
Why RE continues to use these failure-prone relays along with gobs of lithium grease despite continued problems escapes me. Really enjoying your content!
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
Indeed…..I’ve ordered new ones as my missus works at Denso and they’re cheap enough
@timboharty7325
Жыл бұрын
Can you let us know the part numbers for the relay s and where to get them , many thanks
Thanks for posting.
Good, now I know where the relays are, though I thought there were 5 not 3.
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
I’m guessing it’s that fuel pump relay which is at the root of the problem
I have the same exact issue. 5th gear around 52-54 mph. Took it to dealer. They couldn’t reproduce the issue but it happened again on the way home. I cleaned the grease out. Not fixed. Installed three new relays from Hitchcocks. Still not fixed. Am curious has your problem been fixed, wondering have you ridden it to find out. Thanks in advance.
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
Hi yes I’ve replaced all 4 relays now and she’s running perfectly 👍🏻
@jerbunch
Жыл бұрын
@@thebingleywheeler C350 only has 3 that I know of.
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
@@jerbunch see my latest video….there are 4 😊👍🏻
@jerbunch
Жыл бұрын
@@thebingleywheelerApologies, so there is a fourth!!! Not anticipating that last one to fix my problem, but I’ll clean it just the same!!!!!!! Thank you
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
@@jerbunch no worries it was months before I realised myself 😂
Should be a recall
Very poor that RE hasn't sorted this issue, It's been going on for years on various models. Worryingly looking at many YT videos, reading forums and from friends personal experience it is not the only case of inferior quality components being used in quite a few areas.
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
I’ve ordered new relays just in case 👍🏻
Hi buddy... I owned classic 350 reborn only 2 months old, one day suddenly I noticed while driving my bike shut off at idle rpm or while standing it's idle rpm too low that it shut off the engine itself...after sometimes my bike running fine so could it be due greasy relay as you... showed in video
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
Hi I think those relays are a very likely cause….I would clean them out or replace them (quality replacements are fairly cheap) and see how you go….let me know how you get on buddy 👍🏻
@gurjinderhundal7045
Жыл бұрын
@@thebingleywheeler thanks buddy ...sure I will do that..
@gurjinderhundal7045
Жыл бұрын
Hi dino , still having same problem I have cleaned extra grease from relay ...at idle rpm my bike shut down.. problem is at idle rpm only.. could it be problem with O2 sensor or any other suggestions... thanks
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
@@gurjinderhundal7045 hi again have you tried replacing the relays or swapping them around. Try changing the one marked for fuel with one of the others or replace them all with better relays (they are cheap to buy)….if problem persists get a diagnostic tool or get a mechanic to do a diagnostic to see if the ecu is throwing out any error codes
@gurjinderhundal7045
Жыл бұрын
@@thebingleywheeler hi, thanks for replying, already done diagnostic it doesn't show any errors otherthings , can we swap relays with one another like power reply can be swap with fuel relay is it all of them have same powers..thanks
Did this cause the engine management light to come on?
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
No not at all
@chriswatts6161
Жыл бұрын
@@thebingleywheeler ah ok, I've been out for a spin today , I've got 250 miles on the bike and the light has come on, not sure why. Bike is running fine tho
@thebingleywheeler
Жыл бұрын
@@chriswatts6161 one for the 300 mile service to sort?