Rotator Cuff Tear Evaluation with @orthoevalpal
A huge Thank You to our patient Marc who allows me to video his shoulder evaluation. In this Rotator Cuff Tear Evaluation with @orthoevalpal I show some special tests, discuss injuries that can mimic a rotator cuff tear, do manual muscle testing and bring the evaluation to a conclusion with our diagnosis.
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The 'hiking of the shoulder' was the most difficult issue for me to overcome with my pre-op and post-op process. Standing in front of a mirror and concentrating on my movements was crucial.
Very clear and I live you progress with your treatments as the patient feels
Thanks for showing the video, I have the same injury. falling off a Bucking Bronco machine, fascinating seeing what I have done.
Paul your videos are great .simple assessment technique. and main thing is real pt. Thanks looking for more videos
Love this video ♥️ made me smile. So helpful!
Great and simple clinical reasning! Thank you for your all videos!
V informative Thanks to u and ur patient patience he is a great man
This was very helpful. Thank you!
Thank you again sir
Athletic Training student here. I love listening to your podcasts on Spotify while I'm out on my morning runs. Thank you for the very helpful and interesting content!
@OrthoEvalPal
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Brian, So glad you are enjoying the show! Lots more to come. Spread the word. Best, Paul
Excellent video! How long would you recommend physio for very limited ROM before MRI/CT Scan.
How can you tell the difference between a rotator cuff tear and a frozen shoulder?
Thanks so much Dr really good explanation God bless u and keep u healthy
Wish any of the 4 Orthopaedic dr.s I went to were that thorough. Ha rotator cuff surgery still pain under shoulder blade.
This video is excellent!!!!
@OrthoEvalPal
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Taras!
thank you!
@OrthoEvalPal
2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Rich!
Chiropractor here. Love the videos and find them very informative. Patient was in quite a bit of discomfort. What did you do for pain management and did patient not fair well with active care which led to the MRI referral and ultimate surgical repair? Thanks
great video! very informative, i had a nice little wreck over my handlebars the other day & have some stiffness & pain. I passed all these tests with only minor pain, able to raise it fine in all directions and resist force pressed against it. safe to say I have just sprained those muscles?
@OrthoEvalPal
2 жыл бұрын
Ouch! Probably. Don't let it linger too long though.
I love your videos. I have a left rotator cuff injury...its been 5 yrs. Went to 12 wks. Of therapy only missed 3 days..ot w better but starting to hurt again. A d my left .isveryvery painful..could I have Rotstor cups at same time
Was there a follow up video to this? I have full subscapular tear and partial supraspinatus. I have full range of motion but AC joint pain in actions and at rest.. Surgeon advised rotator cuff surgery curious to know if it's common to have surgery with full range of motion
Very helpful video. Pretty sure this is my problem I will find out tomorrow
@OrthoEvalPal
10 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful Kevin! Best of luck!
Question: I had surgery back in July 2023. Visited physical therapist evaluated and undergone physical therapy for right shoulder supraspinatus and bicep tenodesis post op. Been in physical therapy for five months I was doing the lateral raise up to my ear and anterior raise by my ear as well. The lateral raise hear some clicks on my right shoulder. My therapist tells me its normal until i smooth it out during my therapy sessions. What do you think.
Sir do you have a video how to proper bend my knee because its limited to 90 degrees after my leg operation i cant afford for a therapist hope you can help me sir thank you.
Paul ,can you tel please ; "Deteorated Supraspinatus Tendonitis " it is accepted as disability at the age of 60 ?
What is his bicipital groove tenderness attributed to? Thank you so much for the awesome videos!
@OrthoEvalPal
4 жыл бұрын
HI Lilli, the torn biceps, retinaculum and bursitis. He just had his cuff repaired 3 days ago and doing very well.
@lilliconner6328
3 жыл бұрын
That’s so good to hear and thank you so much for your prompt response!
What is the difference between Bear Hug and Belly Press and Lift off tests when all three is for the same Subscapularis muscle? Please explain the subtle diffrence.
@OrthoEvalPal
4 жыл бұрын
The Bear hug and Belly press are relatively similar. I think two different people wanted credit for a subscap test. The Lift -off on the other hand eliminates the other internal rotators such as the pec major, Lats, Teres major, and places the subscapularis in a more efficient position to internally rotate. Some people cannot get to the lift-off position because of arthritis or capsular stiffness so I fall back on the first two.
Dr, is it ok to run with a partial tear? I play soccer and wondering if I can run while playing soccer.
The legend says he is still emptying that can
I have a very similar problem to the one you have just demonstrated in your video, but I had a lot of pain at night when I laid down, ( but eased it by resting my arm on a pillow for support ) I have had this problem for four years now, the night pain has ceased or abated quite a lot, but I have a lot of weakness, when I raise my arm away from my body, it will then become very painful and my arms strength will give out and just drop.
@amarudieguez3124
Жыл бұрын
How did you get on?
Three plus years ago I fell off my bicycle going about 25 miles an hour onto concrete sidewalk. It took a long time to raise my right arm and now I usually raise it up like they teach you in the military to shoot a rifle when I eat. Raising it up in front of me I feel like something jumping over something else. I've been to these so-called orthopedic doctors and surgeons and they've never told me what's wrong they looked at x-rays or whatever and I need some help but I only have Medicaid. I even went over 50 mi away to an orthopedic surgeon but he wanted to take more X-rays and acted like he couldn't get my x-rays from the city I lived in at that hospital. I just don't want to be x-rayed anymore because I've had so much I'm afraid I'm going to get cancer from the radiation. I don't know how I can be helped from posting this but I gave it a shot.
Very interesting, I am 75 years old and my left shoulder is much like the person you are working with. Sleeping was OK at first, my injury was 15-20 years ago I think. I saw a dr. at that time and he tried cortisone shots that didn't help at all so I had PT for 10 weeks but that didn't help much, paid for by employer health coverage. I then went to a dr. who measured for tissues at the bones and said I had arthritis, and said pain can be managed by analgesics until they don't and then shoulder replacement is recommended based on my pain level. Arthritis or rotator cuff injury the repair method is the same, surgery.
@OrthoEvalPal
Жыл бұрын
Hi Robert, the repair procedures are different. Very different
I have my shoulder pain for five years.
I’m having severe pain when I sleep is the good news that I probably don’t have a tear??
Great eval from former M.D.
@OrthoEvalPal
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Wayne!
excellent presentation for rotator cuff exam and differentiating shoulder pain. really brings out the flow of exam for quick shoulder and upper extremity exam. it looks like you missed the obrien's test for SLAP tear. probably ddint need it as his biceps test was normal.
@OrthoEvalPal
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Stephen, I often test all of that during the first evaluation. When I have a diagnosis, I keep the video short and to the point just so it is not so lengthy for the patient. He did have surgery, RCR, no labral injury. Good Question!!
Similar case. Could you please send me a link how to do phisiotherapy for this? Thank you so much.
8:00 That caught me off guard Why "the larger the tear, the less pain at rest"?? Shouldn't inflammatory conditions have pain at rest but ease off during activity?
@OrthoEvalPal
3 жыл бұрын
less of the tissue to tear more if it is a large tear. Good question
@DHMeister
2 жыл бұрын
@@OrthoEvalPal Same here. I had a complete tear and the surgery did not help. I was in more pain as it was in process of breaking down than I was with the complete tear. Now it make sense. Unfortunately, now a complete shouder replacement is on the horizon. Thanks for the knowledge.
@salcruz8461
Жыл бұрын
That caught of guard as well.
Why does your passive movement not exacerbated the painful arc or the flexion of shoulder?
@OrthoEvalPal
3 жыл бұрын
When you actively lift your arm, your deltoid superiorly migrates the humeral head which causes more impingement whereas passive ROM doesn't do that. Plus this guy has no rotator cuff to depress the head with AROM
@mohamedorayith4626
3 жыл бұрын
@@OrthoEvalPal Thank you very much
Sir do scar tissue form over time even without surgery?
@OrthoEvalPal
2 жыл бұрын
Not with rotator cuff tears.
I tore my right rotator cuff during a basketball tournament. It’s been hurting for 3 days. I made a appointment to see my regular doctor. I can’t sleep on the right side but it does hurt every time I use my right arm
@dingdong6005
Жыл бұрын
How are you doing now?
@randischlecht2437
Жыл бұрын
@@dingdong6005 doing good now
@dingdong6005
Жыл бұрын
@@randischlecht2437 how did you heal it ? I have rotator cuff injury it seems and it hurts even when lifting light .
@randischlecht2437
Жыл бұрын
@@dingdong6005 i went through physical therapy for a little while, slowly healed up
@kevinlapaiz
Жыл бұрын
How slowly? How long did it take?
Can I send you my MRI,Sir?
Question: why have an MRI after the different treatment and not before? Wouldn't be better to have the MRI first to see what is exactly the problem? I have my appointment with an orthopedic doctor soon, and I wouldn't want to go through all the treatments and then have to have an MRI. Please explain. Thanks
@helicart
Жыл бұрын
because 95% of the time cuff injuries are not serious, and settle with rest followed by appropriate exercise. MRIs are expensive. You are always free to put your hand in your pocket and pull out $3000+ for a MRI before physio treatment. But Medicare prefers you get physio first.
Why does he have tenderness in the bicipital groove?
@OrthoEvalPal
3 жыл бұрын
Lots of inflammation in that area.
What is the immediate remedy if rc tear shows in mri?
@kalenaglory2483
Жыл бұрын
Immediate?
@damodaranp7605
Жыл бұрын
@@kalenaglory2483 I mean what is next step.
@4:40 "Obviously I don't want to kill him... (Because his left arm and fist still work well!)
What if you do have tingling
@OrthoEvalPal
2 жыл бұрын
Need to consider nerve irritation
My first time here.. what’s if my hand can not go behind my back and I’m in a lot of pain. Also my breast is swollen and behind my shoulder arm too. I also feel pain when I try to lift it up.
@kmsy200
2 жыл бұрын
Please go for Xray. Will show everything even if you have calcium build up . I pray for you
@CloverMeFireStone
2 жыл бұрын
See if you can unhook a bra or comb your hair. Maybe you have adhesive capsulitis or frozen shoulder. Although im not sure about the swollen breast
@donjohnson8952
Жыл бұрын
@@kmsy200x-rays for bones what she wants is an MRI
I had a stiff and painful shoulder. Orthopedic doctor touched my shoulder and had me do some resistance and said I need surgery for a torn rotator cuff. He scheduled an MRI. it’s been a week now and my movement is back 95% and no pain. No MRI yet. Is surgery really needed at this point?
@davidjitt8097
Жыл бұрын
Do you have Instagram?
@davidjitt8097
Жыл бұрын
Look up “Thephysiofix”
@GmanfromTexas
Жыл бұрын
@@davidjitt8097 yes. I looked up thephysiofix. There are three accounts under that name. which one do you recommend?
@dingdong6005
Жыл бұрын
How are you doing now?
@GmanfromTexas
Жыл бұрын
@@dingdong6005 I have recovered well. Did a cat scan and it showed a hairline fracture. Dr. Now says no surgery needed. Thanks for asking
Yeah, why did My doctor not do these test he sent me to a physio person who then talked with there people who sent me to for an exray but none of these test were done
@Amy-wv1tq
Жыл бұрын
Same with me....no test performed but sending me for MRI
what's his MRI results??
@OrthoEvalPal
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Samir, Just had MRI. Supraspinatus and infraspinatus tears and some tearing of the labrum.
@monyd7roog
4 жыл бұрын
Ortho EVAL Pal With Paul Marquis Hi Paul , if there is something at teres minor? Thanks for your amazing videos
@HeyIntegrity
2 жыл бұрын
@@OrthoEvalPal was the muscle itself torn or showed atrophy?
@OrthoEvalPal
2 жыл бұрын
@@HeyIntegrity it was torn and then repaired
Just need a good ultrasound...
As someone who is really self conscious about their body, do you get to at least keep your socks and underwear on during surgery?
He's a big boy. The doc ought to put him on a slim fast diet.
@kevinh5349
Жыл бұрын
Oh brother.
I have 5 tears…. I’d smack doc with good arm if he hurt me 😅 kidding doc ❤