One nations heroic history is anothers national tragedy. In academia, the horrors of imperialism get more and more attention each year. In this episode, besides covering the events that unfolded during the Battle of Rorke's Drift, we try to capture the ambiguous nature of colonial history. Yes, the Last Stand of the British soldiers against an overwhelming Zulu force is impressive, but wether or not it should be celebrated is open for debate. We would like to have this conversation in the comments down below, but keep it civil. *Any racist, apologist or revisionist comments can lead to a ban.* Cheers, The Sabaton History Team. If you would like to gain early access to our Sabaton History episodes and actively support this awesome project that we are so passionate about, you can do so by joining our Patreon community. There are some pretty cool perks when you become part of the Patreon family. Find out more and join here 👉 www.patreon.com/sabatonhistory

@mysticnovelbro

4 жыл бұрын

Your only justification is,"But the Belgian Congo..." Indy, Indy, Indy.......

@xclonejager6959

4 жыл бұрын

While I do agree not all colonial history is great and colourful but it was definitely not black and white in this case with the Zulus, Remember the Zulus where highly aggressive themselves offen killing prisoners and caught in constant wars that did nothing but expand there own borders, At least Britain brought technology, medicine, law, infrastructure and civil liberties. Yes the British invaded but you cannot no matter what you think of British colonialism say it didn’t benefit the natives in the long term

@mysticnovelbro

4 жыл бұрын

@@xclonejager6959 exactly

@USSChicago-pl2fq

4 жыл бұрын

Sabaton History they need to write a song about the Battle of Adwa now about the decisive Italian defeat in Ethiopia

@mysticnovelbro

4 жыл бұрын

Did you just seriously delete a user's innocuous comment, SH? Poor show, poor show indeed.

“Bother” said Pooh, as he chambered another round

@Tadicuslegion78

4 жыл бұрын

Someone makes a KZread movie of Zulu only it’s Disney characters....

@talknight2

4 жыл бұрын

That is just way too funny

@jonbaxter2254

4 жыл бұрын

I didn't know the leader of China fought at Rourke's Drift?

@Tadicuslegion78

4 жыл бұрын

@@jonbaxter2254 shush The Chinese don't want the people to know the president served in the British Army

@SirStalingrad

4 жыл бұрын

Tadicuslegion78 we can only hope

British CO: "The Zulus are coming, we must barricade our wall with everything we got!" British Soldier: "What about the rum sir?" British CO: "That, we save."

@outrageddeer2101

4 жыл бұрын

British soldier: why sir? British CO: We need something to celebrate with.

@rashkavar

4 жыл бұрын

Honestly, it's probably because of how strong the rum ration was. There was a concept, primarily used in the Royal Navy, but I'm sure they used the same rum for all branches of the service, called proving the rum - it's where we get the idea of measuring the strength of alcohol in "proof." To prove the rum, you would soak a pellet of gunpowder in rum, and then try to light it up. If it burned, the rum was proven to not be watered down. That works out to be 57% alcohol by volume, or 100 degrees proof. (The modern proof system got simplified down to just 0.5% per unit proof rather than 0.57% for the sake of simplicity, since we no longer have a situation where we need to do the gunpowder test) Alcohol will never be the kind of fire weapon that napalm is, or even the kind of flame you'll get off butane or acetylene, but at that proof, and at the kind of temperatures it would be unrefrigerated and outside in the South African sun, it's definitely capable of producing a decent flame. You don't give the enemy a liquid that burns when you're taking shelter in a building with a thatched roof. The Zulu might not have recognized the opportunity that would have offered (I have no idea what the Zulu did for food and drink of any kind, or how much contact they'd had with products of the European world), but the British soldiers would certainly know about it, and would not take the risk that they might find a way to use it.

@cerebli

4 жыл бұрын

they probably chugged the shit out of it in the morning

@georgelee5786

3 жыл бұрын

But why is the rum gone?

@cleverduck3921

2 жыл бұрын

Rum was used to sanitize the water ration. That is, the alcohol in the rum would kill off any bacteria in the local water supply that the troops wouldn't have grown-up with an immunity to. This had been done with naval water rations for hundreds of years. Of course, they didn't have the modern understanding of germ theory that we have today, but they did observe the simple fact that men who had their water mixed with a bit of alcohol; grog; didn't come down with dysentery.

LOL at Joakim's comment about learning more about the colonization of Africa in two minutes listening to Indy than in nine years of school. I've learned more European history listening to Sabaton than in my entire 12+ years of school.

@darkjackl999

4 жыл бұрын

its because of how school is really bad for learning due it being forced i've learned so much since graduating high school just via hearing about something or listening to songs like sabatons making me curious about an event and then looking up what i could about it

@USSAnimeNCC-

4 жыл бұрын

Stay in school kid more like keep watching KZread video kid XD

@AshleyBlackwater

4 жыл бұрын

@@darkjackl999 Here in the UK you aren't taught about the second world war unless you take it as an elective, and don't learn much about the first one either.

@morisco56

4 жыл бұрын

School is useless

@mtbguy8365

4 жыл бұрын

I learn more from this then stupid school sabaton have more history in there songs then stupid schoolbooks

Indy- *mentions the Armenians* Turkey- " you better delete that "

@henrik1220

4 жыл бұрын

"banned in Turkey"

@jamesoakley4570

4 жыл бұрын

Like how Russian doesnt own up about the Katyn Massacre

@the4thindustrialrevolution225

4 жыл бұрын

@@jamesoakley4570 jews*

@jean-bastienjoly5962

3 жыл бұрын

what, again?

@TimL1980

3 жыл бұрын

and good that he didn't

“The army doesn’t like more than one disaster in a day” “Looks bad in the newspapers and upsets civilians at their breakfast.”

@jefffoutz4024

3 жыл бұрын

A great scene.

@filmandfirearms

2 жыл бұрын

@@jefffoutz4024 A great movie overall

@lionheart6176

2 жыл бұрын

peak british right there.

"Throw your soldiers into positions where there is escape, and they will prefer death to flight"- The Art of War

@arozin6773

4 жыл бұрын

Hear the sound of a machine gun Hear it echo in the night Mortals firing rains the scene Scars the fields That once were green

@lavrentivs9891

4 жыл бұрын

*no escape

@theoutlook55

4 жыл бұрын

Don't you mean No escape?

@trekt9641

4 жыл бұрын

-sun tzu

@ericolsen5592

4 жыл бұрын

What's the price... OF A MILE!

Damn Indy, that unscripted talking.

@old-moose

4 жыл бұрын

All historians are ticking time bomb lecturers just waiting for a good topic to talk about. Just ask all my friends. ;-)

@malachimeeker9480

4 жыл бұрын

Mårtin Isn’t it great!

@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation

4 жыл бұрын

Nowhere near as bad as me lol

@jn4198

4 жыл бұрын

@@old-moose im not a historian, i love history, but when i talk about history it will be about an hour before i stop.

12 years of school: Derp 15 mins of Sabaton History: informed and educated.

@williammitchell2046

4 жыл бұрын

They should be forced to show the sabaton history videos in schools. I have never seen anything more educational, War-wise

@Perkelenaattori

4 жыл бұрын

That's because Sabaton isn't glossed over like the history books in school are.

@minoreror9961

4 жыл бұрын

True tho

@jamesoakley4570

4 жыл бұрын

I learnt more about the world thanks to KZread more than i did at school. Least i learnt that B+A=22.

@Reaper_ginger

3 жыл бұрын

My world history teacher in high school taught us literally nothing about WW1 besides how it started and a little of the treaty that ended it. Nothing in between

I love how Indy just went full historian on Joakim during the "Interview". Though my freinds hate me for it, I love it.

@5h0rgunn45

4 жыл бұрын

I was laughing seeing Joakim keep trying to get a word in edgewise XD

@Schattengewaechs99

4 жыл бұрын

Darkness Nighthingale - What do your friends hate you for?

@6th_Army

4 жыл бұрын

@@Schattengewaechs99 Going into long "discussions" about history without letting them get a word in.

@TheSingleTrucker

4 жыл бұрын

Woe be the rider in my Uber who dares bring up some nugget of history. I fully channel Indy and a 15 min drive just passes like a summer breeze. Rider: 1 star; talk too damn much. LOL!

@falangecatolica4692

4 жыл бұрын

Its much more enjoyable

You know you can say what you want in colonialism, and the British Empire, but if you put that all aside and look at Rorke's Drift I think we can all see and respect the absolute astonishing level of marshal bravery and courage shown on both sides. The British for standing their ground in the face of a near never ending hoard of Zulu, whom had just destroyed a force three times the size of themselves. And the Zulu to charge the rifles of those British, in the face of the slaughter they were receiving. Truly a outstanding display on both sides.

@5h0rgunn45

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. And that's what I like so much about about the movie "Zulu". Although told almost entirely from the British perspective, they managed to make it in a way that shows respect to the men who fought on both sides.

@TheSingleTrucker

4 жыл бұрын

Time to dig in and marshall tactics saved the Brits.

@mattcarroll8520

3 жыл бұрын

Well said. All to common these days to toe the politically correct line and trash anything to do with colonialism. It was a different era, with different values, and also there were a lot of positives to come from the British influence. Unfortunately, a lot of the countries as they have gained independence have turned into basketcases rife with corruption and brutality.

@pavitashergill8308

3 жыл бұрын

@@mattcarroll8520 including Britain I hope??

@Henshin0101

3 жыл бұрын

@@mattcarroll8520 we can safely talk about the benefits of Roman occupation on Europe and North Africa despite all the war and atrocities committed to gain the empire. One day we will be able to look and talk about the European colonisation of Africa in a similar light.

From what I heard the Zulu king said not to attack the drift because the first battle could be seen as defending their land but attacking the drift would be seen as them as the the antagonist, history buffs talks about when he goes over the movie Zulu

@m0rtez713

4 жыл бұрын

Well he was right.

@5h0rgunn45

4 жыл бұрын

When the Zulus who'd fought at Rourke's Drift returned, warriors from other regiments made fun of them for attacking men who'd done nothing to them.

@elliswatanabe

4 жыл бұрын

@@5h0rgunn45 source?

@5h0rgunn45

4 жыл бұрын

@@elliswatanabe kzread.info/dash/bejne/iKqls65qdpOzYtI.html The link should be timestamped to the right spot, if not skip to 30:30.

@Coramelimane

4 жыл бұрын

Not only that, but when he learned about the attack on the Drift, he was so insulted they did that, he forbade all of the warriors from ever marrying.

No musical details?! That's unexpected. I really enjoyed Indy getting excited about the topic. Well done, guys!

@SabatonHistory

4 жыл бұрын

Thats what he does;) Thanks!

@BigRawb666

4 жыл бұрын

He spent years going over The Great War, which doesn't surprise me about how excited he was about going into the details about WW1 and the effects of the colonization of Africa's effects on WW1

@vladadusek8724

4 жыл бұрын

Indy seemed to try to ask Joakim about musical details, but he somehow transformed it i to 5 minute monologue about British war policy before WWI.

The Drift wasn't an attack that the Zulus wanted to happen. The attack on it hindered the ability for the Zulus to claim the war was defensive

@patchesohoolihan666

4 жыл бұрын

In addition it took it took one of their last units of several thousand young bloods, eager for action, and turned it into a demoralised mess. The Zulu won at Isandlwana, but a huge proportion of their army took rather heavy casualties. The Zulu's only realistic chance was to continue repeating Isandlwana like successes of annihilating British forces with charges at the guns. How many survivors of Rorke's drift would be as willing to charge a British line again?

South African here: Honestly brilliant coverage of Rorkes Drift. Really cover both sides relativity well. If you guys ever come to South Africa you should go to the battle site. As well was the Battle of Blood-river( Voortrekkers v Zulus). Probably if not the most decisive battles for the opening of the rest of Southern Africa. The battle sites are surprisingly well kept! 🤘🏼

@thepiratepenguin4465

4 жыл бұрын

Blood-river & Anglo-Boer war. ✔

@Hert42

11 ай бұрын

Blood river and Anglo Boer War... Please! Remember Amajuba!!!

Am I the only one who wants Sabaton to do a song about the Emu War in Australia?

@anthonymesa8922

3 жыл бұрын

right here 😂

@evaczarnojanczyk1432

Жыл бұрын

Yes!

@deer3481

Жыл бұрын

🤣I'd love this

@Doofing_Cookies

Жыл бұрын

They must do this

@__DwiPurna

7 ай бұрын

agree!!!

I think when it come down to it battles like this should be remembered in the same way as we might remember something like Picket's charge in the US Civil war. Where we can discuss politics separately to the honouring of individual acts of bravery and courage.

@jackolaid6179

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, while Picket's charge is different I agree that we should be able to honor the bravery of those who fought.

@eelvis1674

4 жыл бұрын

@@jackolaid6179 I wasn't meaning that they were similar battles, I was just trying to get at the idea that even though people may have been on the wrong side in a conflict that doesn't mean that they deserve no credit whatsoever.

@NeuteredSmurfs

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, bravery should be honored on both sides.

@chrissssGrustman

4 жыл бұрын

Is that so? I definitely disagree: When everybody's reason to be where they are is extremely politically charged (Indiscriminant colonization of a continent), and when they know that they're here to enslave and subjugate, and choose to continue onwards, then how can their actions be honored? Perhaps if they were defending the British Isles in some honorable defense against their homeland, sure, but here these British soldiers and officers were here to put an entire people under them in their own (European) social caste.

@randomnerd9088

4 жыл бұрын

@@chrissssGrustman The British Isles aren't even these people's homeland silly. The Anglo-Saxon people don't originate from the British Isles. The Zulu didn't originate from this region of Africa. You're so incredibly deluded in the mind it's not even funny. When does a land become a people's homeland? These are men following the orders of their country, serving their country, serving their families and their people. The Zulus are no different than the British. The soldiers on both sides are the same. They are motivated by the same things. They desire the same things. They dream of the same things. They fight for their king. They fight for their lives. They fight for their wealth. They fight for their families. They fight for their wives. They fight because they are told to fight, because that's what soldiers do.If you really want to have a nuanced bullshit political theory of morality then you would understand that the Zulus were the antagonistic ones during this specific battle, but you don't. Why don't you? Because you are on a mental crusade against anything which is done by white people, as well as any form of expansion by said white people. You don't grasp that "colonialism" is the very same thing as what has done by the Zulus, by the Romans, the Greeks, the Carthaginians, the Mesopotamians, the Egyptians, Persians, Aztecs, Iroquois, the Kushans, Babylonians, fucking everyone. That's because the emphasis and need for land during the majority of the world's lifetime was absolute. For a nation to succeed it needed to conquer or fulfill a specific niche, and even fulfilling a niche wasn't possible for much of ancient history. It all fucking sucks, I agree, but to somehow insinuate that the British are somehow worse than any other people on the planet is bullshit because they have all been doing the same shit for thousands of years. They fight. They kill. They grow fat and rich and someone else comes along and kills them. That's how it has been for thousands of years. Thankfully due to the advent of such technological wonders much of what was a necessity in the past have been rendered archaic, from the mundane to the wonderous, from what affects individual lives to what affects nations, it has all changed drastically. If you had any sort of critical thinking skills you would not attempt to apply your modern morality to a period in which the foundation for that moralities existence was just beginning to sprout thanks to the fertilization done by the blood of millions upon millions upon millions of people.

Indy's historical unscripted rants are something I would love to see more of

Xhosa here: I was listening to the "Last Stand" album and I heard the chorus and had a feeling I knew what they were singing about. Watching this video proved me right. Sabaton never fails to amaze me. Thanks guys, this was a nice surprise.

@SabatonHistory

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for appreciating it!

Indy talking to Joakim at the end reminds me exactly what happens when i listen to Sabaton with my friends. I always get excited explaining to them the history behind every song

@thetankguy9263

3 жыл бұрын

I relate to this wayyy too much

If I were to speculate, since this song was on Last Stand, and it is a famous last stand with an excellent movie, it attracted the band's attention when they were tossing around ideas for the album. If no one else has written a song on a sensitive topic like this before, well, Sabaton had done controversial topics before anyway.

@Indoor_Carrot

4 жыл бұрын

Well, they get shit for the Final Solution and Wehrmacht. Some people are just sad and can't enjoy music for what it is :/

@rogmorts1

4 жыл бұрын

They are second on this battle Saxon sung song about it in 1997 The Thin Red Line. Though sabaton did a better job of it.

@alexandrah9824

4 жыл бұрын

@@Indoor_Carrot For me as a german metalhead the ,, Final solution “ means much to me.LG Alex🤘

@LordVader1094

4 жыл бұрын

@@Indoor_Carrot Also Rise of Evil, for some damn reason.

@Indoor_Carrot

2 жыл бұрын

@Kristopher Prime Sadly no. The "regular soldiers" of the Wehrmacht also committed war crimes against civilians (including children). Not just the SS. That was an excuse made by veterans to shift the blame.

I live a few miles away from the grave of Pvt. Robert Jones VC, one of the 11 who were awarded it at Rorkes Drift. Sadly he never got over his experience there and took his own life a few years later. I visit it now and again. I think the film, although it has a few inaccuracies, did quite a good job of showing both sides and what a tragedy it was. The zulu village in the film were all "proper" zulus and King cetshwayo was played by his grandson in the movie.

Almost 50 years ago I was a US Army infantry captain and a student in the Infantry Officer's Advance Course at Ft Benning Georgia. One of the battles we studied was Rorke's Drift. It is a well documented and extensively studied engagement. The consensus is that the British officers did everything right. From there supervision of the effort to fortify the homestead to their leadership in the battle itself. The motion picture ZULU is of course entertainment and not a historical documentary but it dose capture the essence of the battle. If you have an interest in this particular fight you need to watch ZULU.

That after-show "interview" was great. Indy looked genuinely excited to talk about this and Joakim looked genuinely amused at Indy's excitement.

@SabatonHistory

3 жыл бұрын

That's the spirit of learning and sharing history, there's endless knoladge and stories to dig in.

"There are no country songs about British colonisation of Africa" *Laughs in John Edmond*

Damn. Indy went off on a little tear there. Like Joakim, I learned more about the colonization of Africa in those few minutes than I did in school. Like always, thanks for sharing this gem with us!!

'You realize I learnt more about the colonization of Africa in those two minutes talking than I did in nine years in basic school.' That's exactly how I feel anytime I listen to Indy. 😃 And, this story reminds of a thing Indy told in the Great War several times: one machine gun can replace hundreds of soldiers. I feel in the case of Rorke's drift exactly the same, that superior techniques count much more than numbers. And, without going too deep into the colonization topic, just one little thing: however most of the European people thought they're superior to African people, the fact they could actually contact with African people gave birth to a new social science: cultural anthropology. And this new science developed a new way of approach, which didn't consider technically less developed people inferior, but it started to research their culture in its own context and complexity. I know the later history of 20th century doesn't really show the spreading of this approach, but I think I don't have to emphasize too much how important it is in dealing with today's social (which are often also cultural) issues. (Yes, I studied cultural anthropology. 🙂)

@SabatonHistory

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, the birth of Cultural Anthropology as a scientific field could be interpreted as a sign of emancipation/acceptance of other cultures. However, I would argue that it is also a product of a Western Culture which saw itself as superior, and felt the need to study anything that was different (Other). The concept of Orientalism is still very prevalent in modern culture today (look at movies like Aladin or the representation of Arabs/Muslims in mainstream media). Throughout the 19th and 20th century, 'Other' people have been misrepresented by the west, often based on stereotypes like moral corruption, aggressiveness, irrationality, femininity, inferior intellect, resulting in structural prejudices which, again, still thrive today. I'm not saying that the field of Cultural Anthropology STILL suffers from this, in the last decades academia has become much more aware of these problems.

@tejesedeny

4 жыл бұрын

​@@SabatonHistory Well, yes, anthropology started its career with an evolutionist approach too, where 'primitive' tribes were considered as earlier stages of human society's ever ongoing development (and this approach inevitably includes the inferior-superior dichotomy). Relativism and studying cultures in their own context came later. And yes, the later complex approach of anthropology didn't become mainstream, describing a culture by a few strong stereotypes is still easier than showing its complexity. And the 'our group' - 'their group' thinking is still very much alive, we can't do much about it. But at least in those professions which aim to help socially excluded - and often culturally different - groups the approach of understanding and working together with those who need help, and not telling what's good for them from 'above', is more and more present. I hope this approach will spread in mainstream society too with time, however, my realist side doesn't really trust that.

OH GOD *[CIV5 ZULU IMPI RUSH FLASHBACKS]*

@stanleyramsrud5204

2 жыл бұрын

I won't even play a game if I see Shaka on the same continent as me

No shit, I was just thinking about this song last night while playing Civ4!

@USSAnimeNCC-

4 жыл бұрын

Did something similar happen to you

@scipioafricanus6417

4 жыл бұрын

How do you run civ4 on windows 10?

@lexingtonbrython1897

4 жыл бұрын

@@USSAnimeNCC- Nah, I was in the mopping up stages of my game.

@xyz6106

4 жыл бұрын

@@scipioafricanus6417 works fine for me with no extra modifications.

@StArShIpEnTeRpRiSe

4 жыл бұрын

@@scipioafricanus6417 You can run everything on Win10 and even have compatibility modes to older windows even to xp.

As a South African it's really awesome getting a song about my history. I guess the thing is that horrible things happened in the past but it is still important to learn about them. Often history is overlooked so it's cool learning about my own history along with that of others.

Please, The Attack of the Dead Men next week. It's one of my favorites songs from the Great War

@alexamerling79

4 жыл бұрын

It's a good one.

@ericolsen5592

4 жыл бұрын

And it'd be a great song for Halloween, but no, they did Unbreakable.

FOR KING AND COUNTRY

@xclonejager6959

4 жыл бұрын

Rule Britannia 🇬🇧

South African here. You guys at Sabaton did a brilliant job at creating a song about Rorke's Drift. It would be absolutely amazing if you could maybe do a series of songs about the Anglo-Boer War or one about the battle of Bloodriver (Slag van Bloedrivier).

It was so cute seeing Indy get so excited about history!

@hellionshark3197

4 жыл бұрын

It's really cool to see people talking about things they love.

Hi, am South African and have been waiting for this episode, its really weird how Indy got some of the pronunciation right and the commander's name which I dont think I would pronounce right but then gets mielie (short sounds) pronounced like meelee (long ee sound). Also people dont really celebrate the battle and wasnt as big of a thing as the battle of Blood River as the forces here were British which werent as cherished as the Afrikaans and Dutch settlers in Apartheid (there used to be a public holiday to celebrate Blood River but was renamed and now celebrates both sides of the battle).Overall great video. Also I live in the Western Cape in the South while Rorke's Drift is in the North eastern side in Kwa-Zulu Natal so closer to Durban and Johannesburg.

@stimublu8570

4 жыл бұрын

Locals did well with great bravery and cunning in Blood River, alas British too proud to learn from the locals.

@theirishviking5545

4 жыл бұрын

Sabaton should do a song about Die Slag van BloedRivier "The Battle of Blood River" and a Sabaton History Episode of it. But with the way thinks are here in South Africa currently that might also be a bit 'controversial' . . . . .I also live in the Western Cape

@henrykeyter53

3 жыл бұрын

Hi C4 Cole Jong, the difference between Bloedrivier and Rorke's Drift is... Well there is a lot of differences. Bloedrivier was the first defeat the Zulus had suffered since King Shaka. It was also a "just" battle - as far as battles can be - because it was in direct response to the murders of Piet Retief and the trekkers in their camps. Furthermore Bloedrivier was 41 years before Rorke's Drift, the British were better armed and the odds were more in their favor than the odds the Trekkers had. Also - because Bloedrivier was the first defeat the Zulu had, the Brits had a "better" chance to win because the Zulu realised that they can lose... But quite frankly I think the real reason that the Brits don't really celebrate Rorke's is because it is overshadowed by Isandhlwana

I met Sabaton with this song almost a year ago and had to watch "Zulu" film after listening to it several time. A year later, it still amazes me

Awesome to see a representation of Southern African and more particularily the Zulus. My grandparents talked about the aftermath of The anglo Boer war. No winners at the end. Proud that the Zulus were represented as fierce and cunning warriors instead of savages. We are a proud nation with a lot of problems, but we have a rich history of fierce resistance against challenges brought upon us. Love the channel and hope to see more history on the South african front in the future.

"Very different interview;" there practically wasn't an interview. Still, I've got to agree with Indy: being a historian gets you way more perspective than being a student or casually interested ever will.

It's awesome that it got covered, simply for the fact that the history of this continent, is basically unknown in the rest of the world. Good or bad, no topic should be taboo, and art provides us with a tool to depict not only what happened in history, but lends us the ability of emotional expression too. Stories must be told.

There is a movie about Rorke's Drift. Zulu (1964)

Respect for both the Zulu attacker and the British defender in this battle.

@__DwiPurna

7 ай бұрын

Ok sir now do you prefer gigachad or team fortress 2 sniper? 😅

Indy is a walking History bible...such an amazing man

What the hell! I never knew Joakim was a Star Trek fan! Long live the Federation and Starfleet!

@sovietagent9303

4 жыл бұрын

You want w romlen battle begal

@prince_julius

2 жыл бұрын

Cool shirt, too! :)

Great video and great song. Thanks for making both. The Battle of Rorke’s drift was one of my favorite topics in my history of modern Africa class in college. The scramble for Africa is really some of the stuff that helped broaden my world view beyond its “America-centric” view I had for most of my life.

I was just listening to this song! What perfect timing!

@TrollbaitMage

4 жыл бұрын

Same here

@SabatonHistory

4 жыл бұрын

How uncanny!

@TrollbaitMage

4 жыл бұрын

@@SabatonHistory i listen to Sabaton everyday while at work. I work in a cubical farm / data entry building and all i do is type. So i listen to music and books every day. Been there 7 and half years have listened to a book everyother day to every day and Sabaton everyday and never gotten bored once.

@kurtkenehan8017

4 жыл бұрын

same

@sovietagent9303

4 жыл бұрын

@@TrollbaitMage same

I love the movie when I was a kid to be honest I don't know who to side with cause the Zulu's are fighting for freedom while the British are fighting for their lives

@xclonejager6959

4 жыл бұрын

Darryl Draven not really freedom considering they where fighting for a king even more violent with no civil liberties

@javanbybee4822

4 жыл бұрын

Rorkes drift was a un just attack by the zulus, their leaders did not allow them to attack but they did anyway

@markrenzella2825

4 жыл бұрын

It's a little complicated . The Zulu nations rise to power was made by them "imposing " their will on other tribes and subjugating them to Zulu ways. Just like the British

@theposhdinosaur7276

4 жыл бұрын

I can't quite call myself a historian yet, but I have written a 30 page assignment on the war and its two famous movies. With that out of the way, this is how I see it. The Zulus were a brutal people. They had made themselves into a regional super-power through acts of brutality that was at least no better than the British. But the justification of the British of bringing civilization was a shallow excuse for getting to the diamond filled lands of the Zulu. It was as such no surprise that at the flimsiest of excuses (I believe it was a murder) the colonial government gave a ridiculous ultimatum to the Zulu that all but made them a vassal state. The Zulu king even agreed to most terms, but asked to ratify some things, but since peace was never the objective, war was declared. Now the important thing to note here, is that the British crown had not sanctioned this war, neither did they really want it. As such, when they finally heard of it, they initially wanted to find an excuse to end it. Only with the humiliating defeat at Islandiwana and move on "British" soil at Rorke's Drift, the British now had no other choice than to see the war through, if they wanted to save face. The worst thing about this war, is that the man most responsible for the war, and the incompetent command that led to unnecessary deaths of British soldiers (and thus the continuation of the war) suffered no consequences as he was favored by the queen, that is other than being relieved of his duties.

>Zulu butcher and murder wounded soldiers >soldiers return the favor Indy: shocked picachu face

well if I recall correctly not only was Rorke's Drift actually outside the accepted Zululand but prior to the war's starting I believe that zulu warriors were actually raiding Boer and British settlements and kidnapping women and all sorts

This is my favourite song on The Last Stand, every time it comes on I bust the dial of the stereo off at 11. I’ve used a lot of duct tape fixing it

@Death_Korps_Officer

4 жыл бұрын

Mine is The Last Battle, such an unique song and almost forgotten battle.

@catchy_tune

2 жыл бұрын

Nice

Best one yet. So interesting; loved Indy's little extra talk at the end!! Would have liked to hear about the creation of the song too - but not at the expense of Indy's extra section. Just do a longer video guys!!!

@SabatonHistory

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Unfortunately we have a limited capacity for editing and such, so endless videos are not possible at this point

@wborworse

3 жыл бұрын

@@SabatonHistory Just listen 20min of Sabaton songs before and it is enough to edit, etc., for 3 videos of 0-20 mins

They need to make a song on the american civilwar

@Eveline_420

4 жыл бұрын

Adam Miltrion that would be awesome

@dude34150

3 жыл бұрын

They are a sweedish band it would be cool but unlikely

Not one mention of Lt JRM Chard VC Royal Engineers who took command from Bromhead due to seniority and organised the defences and redoubt leading to victory

12:26 Joakim trying to get a word in but getting steam rolled by indie’s train of thought

I want a song about the Rhodesian Bush war.

@PrimarisBlackTemplaDraven

4 жыл бұрын

Yes cause Rhodesians never die

@ghazghkullthraka4237

4 жыл бұрын

Sweet banana

@xclonejager6959

4 жыл бұрын

Shhh you can’t talk about the green shorts boys, there really racist, don’t ya know, they didn’t give control of the bread basket of Africa to the natives that weren’t ready at all to take over and thus saved them from the famine that would happen the second the communist took over, Seriously tho it’s a massive shame what happened to the Rhodesians

@jacobfarley434

4 жыл бұрын

Green Leader raid

@thomasrogers5514

4 жыл бұрын

Salute to the brave and mostly forgotten Rhodesians.

South African here! Awesome song, and good to see that perspectives from both sides are covered. You guys should really look into the Anglo-Boer war. There are a lot of heroic stories and war heroes from that war.

Joakim, Indy, if you read this... Guys please make a song about the battle of Blood River. It deserves a lot more attention than it gets. 468 South African farmers (I know most people would just call them Dutch, but they themselves wouldn't) vs 10 000 - 15 000 Zulu Impis. If one compare this battle to the Battle of Isandhlwana or the Battle of Bembezi (Brits vs Ndebele, also worth reading about the atrocities committed there) the Battle of Blood River stands out as the Voortrekkers suffered only three minor injuries....

Sir we’re surrounded! Good,now we can shoot in all directions!

"...with only a few hundred of their own..." Actually it was just over ONE hundred of their own.

Please do a song about "The battle of blood river "

When you are about to write a paper on the movie Zulu and sabaton history puts out the vid on Rorke's Drift... nice

@SabatonHistory

4 жыл бұрын

Very nice!

This has to be my favorite sabaton history video. The last 4 mins, like he said, I’ve learned more than 9 yrs of school. Thank you guys so Much for shedding light on these forgotten and most importantly; overlooked battles!

"elsewhere" nice analogy for Elssas-Lothringen

@EarthForces

4 жыл бұрын

Alsace-Lorraine (correction)

Once again an in depth explanation of the events made a song i haven't really cared about that much before so, so much more interesting! Gotta love this channel and Indy's awesome way of explaining stuff. (I do like Indy's own channel too...)

From the movie Zulu In the hundred years since the Victoria Cross was created for valour and extreme courage beyond that normally expected of the British soldier in face of the enemy only 1344 have been awarded. Eleven of these were won by the defenders of the mission station at Rorke's Drift, Natal, January 22nd to the 23rd 1879. Fredrick Schiess, Corporal, Natal Native Contingent. William Allen, Corporal, B Company, 2nd Battalion, 24th Foot. Fred Hitch, Private B Company, 2nd Battalion, 24th Foot. James Langley Dalton, Acting Assistant Commissary, Army Commissariat Department. 612 John Williams, Private, B Company, 2nd Battalion, 24th Foot. 726 Robert Jones, 593 William Jones, Privates, B Company, 2nd Battalion, 24th Foot. Henry Hook, Private, B Company, 2nd Battalion, 24th Foot. James Henry Reynolds, Surgeon Major, Army Hospital Corps. Gonville Bromhead, Lieutenant, B Company, 2nd Battalion of the 24th Regiment of Foot, South Wales Borderers. John Rouse Merriott Chard, Lieutenant, Royal Engineers, Officer Commanding - Rorke's Drift.

Sabaton History Channel: *posts new video* Me: I have arrived

@TheKingoftheKongs

4 жыл бұрын

All embrace me

@brettsgamingtavern7429

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheKingoftheKongs It's my time to rule atlast. 15 years have I been waiting to sit upon my throne.

I feel like this is one battle where it is really hard to pick a side, this is really not a black and white situation

@lavrentivs9891

4 жыл бұрын

Depends if you want to see it from a political or personal level. The zulu nation was invaded by the british, so it was a defensive war from the zulus point of view. But on a personal level the bravery of the british soldiers to withstand an attack on that magnitude, especially since the odds were much worse than at the earlier defeat at Isandlwhana, is quite remarkable.

@96Vano

4 жыл бұрын

Well...it's LITERALLY black and white situation! [badum-tss]

@lem_1618

4 жыл бұрын

In the war itself the British are clearly the bad guys. In this battle, attacking a hospital, the Zulu is clearly the bad guys.

@lavrentivs9891

4 жыл бұрын

@@lem_1618 To be fair, we don't know if the zulus knew that the mission was being used as a field hospital and storage facility. Attacking enemy depots are pretty common in war.

@Yourmomanddadrbrotherandsister

4 жыл бұрын

@@lavrentivs9891 Totally agree

Ok first I love when Indy just goes off on a historic rant because you can see just how passionate he is about all of this and it's a beautiful thing to see. Second I love this song, it's intense and really gets the blood going. Good episode!!

Rorke's Drift was like a beta release version of the siege of Jadotville

Nice, I decided to write a history essay on the Zulus and more specifically The Anglo-Zulu War because of this song. Great stuff as always, tack

Wait, who is presenting this video? they didnt tell me!

@VainerCactus0

4 жыл бұрын

Oh no!

Indy's point of view is wonderful and I'm glad that he spoke as much as he did about how the Zulus saw things.

A Short-Chamber, .450 caliber, Boxer-primed miracle. British fire-tactics in action. If it had only taken place in 1886 instead of 1879. That's when the Maxim entered British service.

Joakim wearing a Starfleet Academy shirt. Right on, man! 🖖😎🍺

@MercenaryPen

4 жыл бұрын

who knows what space wars he's planning to write songs about... maybe the Dominion war, or the Vulcan-Romulan war, the battle of Wolf 359, the list goes on

Lesson learned: warriors good Politicians bad. ....good lesson.

Loving the Starfleet Academy T-shirt

- What fo you know about zulus? - Aren't they just savages, is it? 🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶

Great episode.

@TheBigOne0305

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, but I kind of feel like we missed out on the Sabaton aspect of the interview. Why did they decide to make a song about this specific topic? What has been their experience with playing this live? Especially comparing Britain and other countries (I don't know if they've ever played in former British colonies, but I guess the song would be received quite different there). Indy's part was great, I just think they could have added on another 3-5 minutes giving the other perspective, as they usually do.

@alexandrah9824

4 жыл бұрын

Ja,da habt ihr Recht🤘LG Alex

fun fact Bromhead was actually from the town I'm from and also went to school to the same school as me in year 7

Zulus: "You are trying to steal what i've rightfully stolen" British: "Yes"

Indy should be a history teacher! The way he talks and tells the stories keep you so interested and invested in it!

@talknight2

4 жыл бұрын

He is a history teacher. On KZread. Where history is fun.

@206197

4 жыл бұрын

This is very true ,we can learn more here then we ever could in school

I can't resist not watching a new episode, yet it's 9:50 PM here!

I Love this song !!! Dankeschön an euch for tell and explain the sad and dark history behind.LG Alex🤘weiter so bitte!!! Skål🍻

@SabatonHistory

4 жыл бұрын

You're welcome Alex!

@TheSkilfingar

4 жыл бұрын

*telling, *explaining

@alexandrah9824

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkilfingar I thank you for the correction !!! M. B. LG Alex 🤘☺

Colonization of Africa is a sensitive topic however this song does give an opportunity to open up discussion. The good and the bad of what happened. It's apart of history and needs to be remembered.

I loved the divulgence into why Britain joined in World War 1 against Germany!

Notification squad reporting as ordered to FIGHT BACK TO BACK

So in a lot of ways this was the British Alamo...except the defenders won

@xclonejager6959

4 жыл бұрын

All most like Britain wins a lot more than its battles and wars than its disobedient child 😉

@ReformedSooner24

4 жыл бұрын

xclone jager The Alamo was a Texan battle, not an American one.

"And then the Winged Hassars arrived"!

Despite a sensitive topic, for me this is the most powerful song of Sabaton, LOL. You can feel the adrenaline breaks out your brain. Awesome. Rorke’s Drift ROCKS!

Indy dressing up for this one

Britain was colonised by the Romans. We don't curse the Italians, we thank them for their contribution to British culture. The same goes for the Angles, the Saxons, the Jutes, the Vikings, and the Normans. Goes round, comes round...

Seeing Indy getting enraptured by his own monologue was beautiful to watch

I just saw a clip of Zulu and if you put a red coat and pith helmet on Indy, tell me he isn't a dead ringer for Michael Kane.

The Belgian bit was interesting, thanks for sharing that. Actually, the whole "Age of Colonization" is pretty similar to that. I know the Imperial Age gets a lot of shit, and European nations who did (and even didn't) take part get a lot of shit for what was done, but when you look back it's really a situation of dominoes falling one after another that traces back centuries to the Islamic Caliphate and it's Empire. Most people mark the start of the Colonial Age to around 1492 when Columbus discovered the Americas. What most people never mention, though, was that 1492 was the same year that Spain finally liberated itself from a 700 year occupation under the Islamic Caliphates. If you ever want to know why the Spanish were often so brutal in their colonies, it's because that's what they lived under for centuries and what they were desperate not to return to. Post the Reconquista, the threat of being invaded again was a constant worry that drove them to acquire as much wealth and power as they could to hold of the (thought inevitable) attempt to bring them back under the Caliph. It's a primary reason that the Spanish colonies were more strip mining affairs (and why they constantly searched for the "City of Gold") as opposed to the settlement operations the French and British did. The Spanish colonization is what drove the British and French to colonize so much and so hard as well. One day Spain is an occupied territory, the next they've literally thrown off the world's super-power and are amassing huge amounts of wealth and military power. The chances that Spain would try to invade them were high, so they needed the economic power to fund militaries that could hold off Spain. But England and France were rivals to each other, and other nations saw the growing power and so had to set up their own colonies to try and fund themselves. And with each new territory one got, the others needed more to keep up. Because (as happened with Spain) once you fell behind, you were out of the game. And this mass of colonialism eventually led to WWI, which led to WWII and so on. So ironically, you can literally lay the entire modern world, with all its atrocities, at the feet of the Islamic Caliphate, who started the first Colonial Empire.

@thomaspunt2646

4 жыл бұрын

I've heard that's also one of the reasons the Conquistadors did so well against the Aztecs and Incas. They had spent so much time fighting they had one of the most experienced armies in Europe.

@5h0rgunn45

4 жыл бұрын

I don't buy most of that. First of all, the notion of the Reconquista being a purely defensive series of wars is an over-simplification. By the time they started reconquering territory, most of the people in the Muslim-ruled areas had converted to Islam. Most of the people in Al-Andalus were genetically Spanish people who converted (willingly or unwillingly). They inhabited the southern half of Spain for hundreds of years. To then say that the Christians were merely defending themselves by conquering Muslim lands and killing or driving off the inhabitants would be like if Wales were to conquer England and commit genocide against its inhabitants, and people were like "well, they're just defending themselves." In reality, the Reconquista was a very long series of wars that were only vaguely related to one another. They also saw Muslims ally with Christians against other Muslims, and Christians ally with Muslims against other Christians. It was a complex, messy situation, and to simply label to whole thing a defensive war against outside colonisation and oppression is an oversimplification of events. Then there's the fact that by the 1490s, Castille had already dominated the peninsula for quite some time. I don't remember the exact timeline off the top of my head, but the last time there was an Islamic power on the Iberian peninsula that could've posed a major threat to Christian Spain was well outside living memory. That's not to say they weren't suffering heavily from piracy originating along the Barbary coast--because they were. It's just that, by the 1490s, no one was still alive who could remember the days when a Muslim power was on the peninsula, oppressing Christians, and posing an existential threat to the Christian powers there.

@mikatu

4 жыл бұрын

what a BS, colonial age started years before, when Portugal was colonizing Africa and parts of Asia.... Spain was years away from even discovering an island to colonize. Also Spain and Portugal had the monopoly of the colonization, the other countries weren't allowed to it, until many many years later.

@bv310

4 жыл бұрын

You could also lay a large bit of responsibility on the Christian nations through constant Crusades, which increased and hardened conflict between Islamic and Christian nations. The fall of Constantinople in 1453 led to a general closure of European trade to the East, which encouraged them to look West. Trying to blame one specific group isn't a fruitful discussion in the majority of cases.

@luciussulla2641

4 жыл бұрын

@@bv310 you statement shows a clear lack of knowledge when it comes to historical timelines and Islamic history in particular. Since it's inception, Islam has spread rapidly and often violently. It took Christianity almost 1000 years to spread throughout all of Europe. Islam went from a single location in 622 to having covered an area reaching from India to Spain by 711, and then proceeded to continuously attempt to expand beyond that, often with devastating depredations against any neighbors who couldn't hold them off. In fact, many historians believe the primary reason the centers of culture shifted to France, Germany, England, etc, was because Islamic depredations in the Med were so bad. (And continued on basically unabated for centuries. Hell, one of America's first military actions after the Revolution was to go and fight Islamic Pirates in Tripoli). The first crusade didn't happen until 1095, almost 400 years after the founding of islam and 300 years into Spain's occupation (an occupation which started out brutal and got progressively worse), and the occupation/predation of many more nations. So to claim "well, Muslims learned the violence from Christians" is as realistic as saying "the sun rose this morning because I made toast." Sure, you have made toast and the sun rose, but correlation hardly equals causation and when you look at the scale of the Crusades vs the scale, conquest, and violence by the Caliphates before and after it's pretty obvious the crusades were useless at everything.

1 of the Victoria crosses went to private hook who defended the hospital successfully saving over 10 lives by covering men removing the wounded Edit: the zulus also appeared the next day on all fronts and saluted the British who had fought them off

@TheMedicalDemon

3 жыл бұрын

King Silas That is not true,That was only in the movie.

@kingsilas3467

3 жыл бұрын

TheMedicalDemon sorry Man U right its just a rlly I’ve seen that I wish really happened

99 out of 100 people who know about Rorke's Drift know because Michael Caine in "Zulu."

Rorkes drift was held together by the three men that were in charge Bromhead Chard And the fantastic color sergeant Bourne.

Daily dose of history and metal! Check! ✔️

Could y'all do a history video on The Last Stand

first time i heard sabaton was when i was searching videos about movie zulu(1964) and i saw rockes drift

I love your channel keep up the great stuff!!!!