The men left and the children stayed. Thats why United lost its way.

@franciscomoreira9284

4 ай бұрын

Facts

@nickj.7876

4 ай бұрын

@@franciscomoreira9284word my bro

@gouravcullen6779

4 ай бұрын

Not only that, major issue was scouts and board. Till Sir Alex and David Gill there Glazers didn't had to do the hard work to be the owner. After they left Glazers felt the pressure and they doesn't know anything about football how to run a club. In last 10 years they struggled and luckily VanGaal and Mourinho with their quality trained those deadwoods and brought silverware. Glazers treatment to managers brought player power. In post sir alex era ManUTD did some bad things which says how bad Glazers are see how they treated Romero and De Gea, DeGea will never play Football again, he lost love for the game.

@DigitalSamTV

4 ай бұрын

The new managers never had any authority or cared enough to sort this out

@yahyaelmi8435

4 ай бұрын

Not really , Sir Alex Ferguson left .

That’s Ronaldo was shocked when he came back. The culture that brought him up was gone.

@Ghajahha

3 ай бұрын

Probably but Ronaldo complained about the club being the exact same with no new innovation, refurbishment or advancement

@kristoformontague3928

2 ай бұрын

​@Ghajahha and was he wrong? As a fan it was great to see. The club getting called out on the poor ownership under the glazers

@Ghajahha

2 ай бұрын

@@kristoformontague3928 he wasn’t but I’m saying the winning culture was gone because nothing changed and everyone gave up

@brownsugar9743

Ай бұрын

@@GhajahhaYea i remember they dragged Ronaldo for saying that, now here we are seeing Old Trafford literally leaking water through the roof lol. They owe him an apology

@ss-lz4me

Ай бұрын

@@brownsugar9743 Ronaldo didnt say anything the fans didnt already know But Ronaldo was rightfully sacked because of the interview

Also mourinho mentioned when he was at chelsea , frank lampard at 22 was a leader and a man. ... social media and mainstream crap derailed the youth players

@IaloneAmTHEChoppedONE

2 ай бұрын

nah it's not just "social media" there are still great players

@10kurei

Ай бұрын

@@IaloneAmTHEChoppedONE but that’s also 60-70% part of the truth though isn’t it. For that quick few mins of “glory” people are doing absurd shitty stuffs and wasting their time.

@IaloneAmTHEChoppedONE

Ай бұрын

@@10kurei not it's not bro, Lampard isn't a random player/man. He went to private school, he's very well educated and some people even say that he is a genius (150 iq) His dad was a player too and his uncle is Henry Redknapp... "For that quick few mins of “glory” people are doing absurd shitty stuffs and wasting their time" people weren't angels before social media, you should be happy because now you are capable to see their true nature lol there is probably a young guy like Lampard out there but he doesn't care about football

@10kurei

Ай бұрын

@@IaloneAmTHEChoppedONE i understand that. All the same what i meant was exposure to social media has aggravated the issue and more so because of the views and likes people tend to repeat or add more variations.

@meritosagie4394

Ай бұрын

Ronaldo said it too that the seriousness of old generation is not the same with this current one. Also, pep has the old school ( sir Alex like school) mentality. Maybe that's why Man City are serious. I think all old coach are serious. Including anceloti

And they blame Mourinho for fighting the likes of pogba, lingard & Shaw.

@GholamFareed

4 ай бұрын

Jose signed Pogba & other rubbish namely Alexis, Bailly, Fred, Lindelöf, Dalot, Lukaku & Mkhitaryan.

@adiravi3933

4 ай бұрын

@@GholamFareedHe won the Europa league and came second in the PL with these guys.They didn’t respect Mourinho and never followed his instructions , the management didn’t stand with him in his failures and fans were against him.He would have Rebuilt Man U and has the potential to make these players to become their best.This club is having high expectations and thinking success comes overnight.Liverpool and Arsenal had faith in their manager that’s why now they are good after so many struggles ,failures and flop signings

@GholamFareed

4 ай бұрын

@@adiravi3933 he has never been long enough at any club to rebuild anything!!! 🤣🤣🤣 Ole also came second with the same squad so nothing to brag about!!!

@abhishekbasu8694

4 ай бұрын

​@@GholamFareed and how many trophies did Ole win?

@GholamFareed

4 ай бұрын

@@abhishekbasu8694 precisely my point if Ole a coach with no credentials could finish second with Jose's squad what does that tell you about Jose's achievement???

Lingard, Pogba the clowns

@utwxyz123

4 ай бұрын

Now rashford too

@rickenfatania

4 ай бұрын

Rashford doesn't dance (in public). Also i'm not sure the money or fame is getting to him like these clowns. Ronaldo has been and gone. There's a new regime. A lot has changed since his debut season. His form hasn't helped him, I hope he finds regular football soon.

@gouravcullen6779

4 ай бұрын

see where they are now.

@orangejuice9074

4 ай бұрын

You the clown. 🤡

@casper-cr3kz

4 ай бұрын

Ya just look at him

Interesting how the disciplinarian managers, Mourinho/Van Gaal, were sacked in favor of the players.

@lucagorosito3715

3 ай бұрын

Van Gaal deserved sacking though. Mourinho, however, makes absolutely no sense.

@KEVIn-dq6pm

3 ай бұрын

​@@lucagorosito3715it does tho, toxic environment, no good style of play, not a good league position and probably lost the dressing room

@playedout148

3 ай бұрын

​@@KEVIn-dq6pmall managers "lose the dressing room" at United. If ineos let a manager run things like Abu Dhabi does, things might change. Until then nothing.

@Pisschangoatsmeller

3 ай бұрын

Overpaid loser players too

@Febreeze_Odor_Eliminator

3 ай бұрын

Players with rubbish attitude and mentality, and player power

Jose Mourinho said the players and staffs that were the main problem when he was at United were still there right now in am interview.

@fathonifirmansyah9312

3 ай бұрын

yes, rashford is definitely one of them

@forestcitytrivia9167

3 ай бұрын

Gary didn't ask what the "main problem" was. He asked what the locker room was like.

@nashbullet3213

3 ай бұрын

@@forestcitytrivia9167And what do you think he meant by that question? Especially considering how much the club has fallen since then

@bholmes-17

Ай бұрын

Not anymore now

Total lack of disrespect for that dressing room.

@rajdeepdutt625

4 ай бұрын

*lack of respect

@grahamwright504

4 ай бұрын

I meant what I said >_>

@ronaldomessi7055

4 ай бұрын

​@@grahamwright504 you didn't say that tho bozo

@stevehughes240

4 ай бұрын

Troll.

@saneman7177

3 ай бұрын

Liverpool fan

Once Sir Alex and all the United legends left, the team was a shambles. No real passion or discipline. Still like that now. Lingard is playing in South Korea nowadays.

@simplyballing1592

4 ай бұрын

Passion or discipline is irrelevant if the players lack the actual football talent

@MohamedElouarda-qk6ws

4 ай бұрын

​​@@simplyballing1592no its not. Gattuso lacks of natural talent. He had all the rest. Henderson was a normal player, tracking like a dog and having the attitude. Same for Matuidi the french midfielder. Talent isnt even really the core...

@simplyballing1592

4 ай бұрын

@@MohamedElouarda-qk6ws Gattuso had Kaka, Seedorf, Nesta, etc... Henderson had Van Dijk, Mane, Salah, etc... it's ok to have a few passion merchants in the team but what actually wins you games & trophies is talent and quality. There's no escaping the secret ingredient of skill in football

@gregoriuspascalis500

4 ай бұрын

​@@simplyballing1592there were actually some team that were able to win despite the lack of talent like Greece 2004 and Leicester City. They won because of team effort and passion, not just because of talent and there were also team full of talent yet can't win anything like Tottenham.

@simplyballing1592

4 ай бұрын

@@gregoriuspascalis500 Didn't Leicester have the likes of Mahrez, Kante, Vardy in their lineup? Very talented players in my opinion. I'm not too knowledgeable about the Greece 2004 team. Anyway, I don't look for the extremely rare occurrences, then draw conclusions from that. Rather I look at what regularly occurs. I'm guided by statistics! If on 19 out of 20 occasions the teams that win possess huge amounts of talent should I only focus on the 1 out of 20 occasion when the team wasn't talented? Usually it's the teams that possess the talented payers that end up doing well. I'm sure you can nitpick the rare occasions when this wasn't the case but generally speaking talent significantly increases a team's chances of winning.

They were dancing after losing to liverpool. Really just shows all!

Ferguson would have committed war crimes if players tried that with him! 😂

@liamfitzdrums

3 ай бұрын

He probably would've smashed the speaker and kicked a boot at all of them.

@ironlungslc9529

7 күн бұрын

😅probably

@abcdefg3214

7 күн бұрын

Sold immediately, never to play again

@dhanurs8085

6 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂

It was like when the teacher is out sick and the substitute comes in

@daved3494

Ай бұрын

Good analogy!

Muppets like Lingard and Pogba derailed the whole setup

@akhtaruzzamanjoy8524

3 ай бұрын

Also Rashford

@Al-Brewster

3 ай бұрын

and where are they now?

@Febreeze_Odor_Eliminator

3 ай бұрын

@@Al-Brewsterpogdope flopped at Juventus while using performance enhancers and now banned for 4 years. Lingardinho playing in an unknown club in Korea after a year or 2. Does that answer your question?

@IaloneAmTHEChoppedONE

2 ай бұрын

@@Febreeze_Odor_Eliminator pogdope 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

People who danced their career ended too

I still believe that if mourinho had stayed in the club he would have repaired the damage that was caused after sir alex’s departure he already had glimpses of success when he won the europa & fa cup and reached second in a competitive epl season with an above average team

@GholamFareed

4 ай бұрын

Really is that Jose has been fired 5 times in the last decade??? 😂😂😂 😮 Ole also finished second with Jose's team so nothing to shout about!!!

@AngeAries

4 ай бұрын

Also won everything in the domestic game.... 🤔 .. The Special One ;-]

@DirtyJamesUK

4 ай бұрын

​@@GholamFareed it's actually something to shout about for both of them. Especially Solskjaer. For a novice to the top level to finish in the top 4 with the notoriously difficult to steer Manchester United is very impressive. 3rd place even more so. But then to do it again the next season and finish 2nd after going top after Christmas...? I'm still amazed and grateful for the only United team I've liked since SAF. The only one I would watch on Match of the day. Mourinho saying finishing 2nd with that team was possibly his greatest achievement should show our fans how excellent the job Solskjaer did was. But sadly intelligence and critical thinking is rare amongst glory hunters.

@GholamFareed

4 ай бұрын

@@DirtyJamesUK truth be told mate.

@SubhamChowdhury97

3 ай бұрын

​@@DirtyJamesUK only problem with Solksjaer was lack of tactics in the end. Otherwise he was a pretty good manager, and especially a good man manager ❤

United fans have been needing this insight into the club's 'rebuilding period' for years nice to see some clarification, the basics of it is everything that could go wrong went wrong.

Listen to Rooney…listen to Rooney again. Look around you at what is happening in the world. Same. Football explains life.

@Hamdini10

4 ай бұрын

Its not that deep bro

@devilgames2217

4 ай бұрын

​@@Hamdini10 It is.

@gentleman2.061

3 ай бұрын

It's deep bro. The ''woke cultures'' is destroying the world. Reason why countries in Afrique and others like Russia or China refuse to let in THAT thing. I don't believe the US, UK,France and all the allies can win again a world war. Because their population won't stand a single day in the battlefield.

@timitri8

3 ай бұрын

Dont be scared , last thing you want to do in lufe is stand still

@rdalge

3 ай бұрын

@@timitri8yep…hip hop and the blacks did it

All the foot soldiers left and all the fairies came in

As soon as a lack of discipline permeates a team it’s all over. No more hardware.

It’s that bloody hip-hop music again😂

@KACZMARCZYK4369

3 ай бұрын

You think

@Jon14141

3 ай бұрын

lmao

@robwood8331

Ай бұрын

N music

That’s all you need to know about Lingaard and I expect a few others in the current locker room.

@prateekarora367

4 ай бұрын

Rashford, Martial are must sell. Luke shaw has improved but better to sell him too. He’s injured after every 3-4 games. Get in a full back and a defender along with a striker and winger.

Quality and discipline should be part of the recruitment process, the clowns they signed didn't do anything for the club anyway

This is what i fear will also happen to liverpool. Klopp's figure is difficult to replace 😢

@radi09999

4 ай бұрын

nah, there are no kids like pogba in liverpool so everything is fine. we just need alonso.

@saudabosultan1180

4 ай бұрын

That united team was aging the new generation of united that should have thrived the future of the club wasnt promising apart from januzaj who didnt fullfil his potential and later on shaw who had an excessive amount of injuries that ruined his career

@calebgreen3082

4 ай бұрын

Klopp already set Liverpool up for the future

@villainova

4 ай бұрын

We have too many leaders in our dressing room to allow our winning culture to leave out the door with Klopp. Liverpool FC has too much pedigree from top to bottom of the club. Klopp has left us in the best possible place for our future.

@BeBe-vh4ry

4 ай бұрын

Utd had (still have) crap infrastructure, poor owners and a weak squad when fergie left. Liverpool have none of those problems.

That is why Sir Alex Ferguson is legend.

@Trulyontube

2 ай бұрын

sir alex not a legend..he is the gods of man utd

If Ferguson had to Coach the Current Man United Squad they’d put him into an Early Grave

@WisdomWeaverBitcoinBruv

4 ай бұрын

False. He’d put them early to bed.

@shadow_realm47

3 ай бұрын

They would have Ferguson calling and apologizing to Roy Keane, Beckham, Stam etc by the evening.

@adaley5497

28 күн бұрын

You mean, He'd put Them in one... 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🦾

Giggsy's brother's wife was on her last legs 💀

Imagine dancing after losing to your arch rivals... I'd be fuming if it was Liverpool. It really was the end of the greatest era the PL has ever seen.

And when ronaldo criticized the United that young talent are not like what they were they listened to the senior players follow them, management exact same nothing change, people trolls him for criticizing what a shameless people

@user-ur9es1wl2u

Ай бұрын

don't you think that culture was instilled by the interims and project building managers, something was not right a year before a major international tournament.

Rooney just summed up why we are the club we are now compared to how we use to be breaks my heart man

@saidhammar5006

Ай бұрын

Me too. I didn't see things like that in the time, but now I understand. Rooney and Carrick must have felt lonely being the only ones with the mentality and the awareness.

How Sir Alex won the league in that last season with the team they had then was amazing. As Rooney says it was an ageing team and the youngsters coming through probably weren't at the level required to carry the club by themselves. Without Fergie there to build the next team it was always going to be an incredibly hard task. I think only Pep could've delivered sustainable success like he has at City.

@jonathankennedy1715

17 күн бұрын

Lack of professionalism

One man kept Manchester United grounded, kept it as a place of honour, respect for the history and traditions of the club no matter what Rooney and Carrick did when you are fighting a losing battle on the pitch and behind the scenes traditions mean nothing. Everyone blames the managers at the club but is that fair, when you have clowns in the dressing room. The young guys never had the leaders in the dressing room to get them to focus Imagine fergie walking in and seeing lingard dancing after a defeat to Liverpool. He would do his nut. The respect that we fans have for sir Alex ferguson and his players is amazing and will never go away. Legends Never Die.

I hope Rooney comes back to coaching. I support Arsenal but Rooney is one of the greatest players of his generation. One day I hope he's one of the best coaches of his generation.

They got paid either way. They didn't give a shit. United now lose 7 - 0 to Liverpool. No consequences whatsoever.

respect to carrick and Rooney. Miss both these figures at this club. Very hard to replace

Imagine Keane in that changing room

They had their chance in Jose Mourinho to save them.. but instead their board and fans chose to stick with the likes of Paul Pogba 😂

@shadow_realm47

3 ай бұрын

Pogba caught for steroids. Lingard in Korea. Shaw still injured. Cleverly Headcoach at Watford. Welbeck midtable. Rashford couldn't buy a goal. This is the United Core Jose/Van gaal were playing with 😂

We were Social media FC at the time

How can anyone be dancing and happy the next day after a defeat il never understand that

The attitude of many players today is shocking... Those guys were winners.. Football now treats footballers like kids..Treat those guys like chidren and they will behave like children... I miss real football.

@arminiuszmazowszanin2670

Ай бұрын

Now City are winners, man united are losers. Let's be honest.

Mentality is just as important as physical talent.

I grew up watching Fergie’s red army, it was a drastic 180 turn after he left. Player power has been rotting the club and the Glazers just give them high salaries for mediocre performances then impossible to sell.

And look where Lingard ended up right now, and where Pogba ended up. Pathetic

@user-ur9es1wl2u

Ай бұрын

there's two sides to a story, both players were being scapegoated and in the media alot their mental health impacts performance no? Evidence: Xhaka/Emery (hot mess) vs Xhaka/Arteta (nurtured) and Xhaka/Leverkuson (success).

@edwuncleriii2742

22 күн бұрын

⁠@@user-ur9es1wl2uyou make a fair point about the constant media criticism affecting someone’s game, but I think it’s important to mention with Xhaka that even with all that he was still always loved by his managers. Even at the worst of times under Wenger, Emery, Arteta he was still always fit and was played every game. Not quite the same story as a Pogba or Lingard.

Miss you sir Alex Ferguson😢😢😢😢😢

It also happens outside football, such as office environment, which also become like this. On the bright side, life is more fun and motivated, sad fact, easy to falter during difficult time.

@cowzze923

3 ай бұрын

Yea people act like football is a prison where men stays tougher to survive everyday its been always same everywhere

I remember saving us during those FA Cup runs. If only he took the game serious.

SAF's greatest failure was his not setting United up for the future after he left.

@Honestfucyoufp9mi

4 ай бұрын

Nice one

@tombowers6713

4 ай бұрын

It starts at the top. United has spent money just not on the right players.

@olasupoogunnowo6851

4 ай бұрын

It wasn't his failure, the failure started when Glazers bought United, they loaded debt on the club and were not investing... . SAF himself wasn't getting the Players he was going for, likes of Gareth Bale, Modric, David Silver, but his experience was able to hold things together, even attracting some quality players like Van persie, the downward spiral started from Glazers' take over, but everything fell apart when Sir Alex left.

@asyiksundani9127

4 ай бұрын

Not failure.. Its a smart move from SAF, He doesn't want any successor to surpass his great achievements.

@VJ592

4 ай бұрын

Ferguson and the Glazers

And now it’s happened to Chelsea 💀

Wow, I never knew these nuggets, I hate United but man could you imagine this carry on happening with Roy and co in the dressing room

I can see Pogba and lingard dancing 😂😂😂😂

Once Sir Alex left the discipline left too, that's what Ten Hag tries to bring back but people don't see it (ofc that Ronaldo scenario was weird, which I don't agree with) but I think that if Ten Hag will have a full squad without injuries he can bring Man Utd back

SAF ran a tight ship and sadly the new generation of players didn't experience that, so when they got similar managers like LVG, Mourinho etc there were massive problems and clashes between the players and managers, the players started thinking they were bigger than the club and this lack of discipline and poor attitude is what caused them to fall from grace. When SAF was in charge no one was bigger than the club or manager. Everyone fell in line.

This was the problem. I remember united being in 8th and lingard and pogba were still dancing around the dressing room like a bunch of fuckwits. Honestly made my blood boil.

The fans aren’t blind. That’s why these players struggle Lingard pogba rashford sancho All that brand BS And look at their careers now, floundering

As a leeds fan I love to see united struggle but I can honestly say its a shame that such a big powerful football institution has been totally derailed by such poor management from above and such poor respect for a club and its history from players after money and social media fame......The morales in football have changed and its spoiling our beloved game. Respect to all clubs world wide.....BUT.....ALAW ❤

Keane would have had destroyed the radio and the dressing room would have had been quiet

That's why Lindgard is now playing in South Korea. 😂

Funny how Liverpool, City and now Arsenal can maintain high standards of behaviour and professionalism. It's not about modern players, it's the culture of the org and which players you buy and keep in that comtext. Utd threw their legacy away through mismanagement at the top of the club.

Rooney in a different interview says van gaal was the best coach he played under! Just because Fergie was mean to him, he says that, but here he agrees he was on his last legs and the attitude wasn't there in the united team after fergie left

I agree with previos, MEN left and the children took over football in general, that and VAR has destroyed most beautifule game in the world. No passion, no blood, no tears, everything is just ok…

@jonathankennedy1715

17 күн бұрын

VAR best thing since sliced bread.

Pogba and Lingard, absolute disgrace both of them. The higher ups who threw money at them are just as bad too.

Same thing that happened to barca, heck perhaps ac milan and will eventually happen to man city. That man utd was legendary

You only have to look at where Lingard and Pogba's career has gone to see how they killed that club

as a Liverpool fan, honestly, I dont know how a team can fall so further from their glory, me I'd rather have a squad with half the quality of United's but double the attitude, it's just an embarrasment to see an historic club get teared down apart while managers or owners don't take drastic action, even as a rival, I just think about other United fans, and how they've seen such a downfall, it's just embarrasing

Was the same in the Lakers when Kobe left. Young kids didn't get what it meant to play there.

Standards are so important

Think the biggest thing was he demanded respect and made sure he was paid more than the players. Which is how it should be. How any player gets paid more than a manager is crazy.

If they would make a team from 90s versus todays best eleven, I would see 90s footballers as our worlds savors. There are good players today but man...

Funny that because Keane said the same about Rooney's generation.

@bernardwongibe5118

4 ай бұрын

Possible but Keene would kill Lingard

@LienLeon

4 ай бұрын

@@bernardwongibe5118 the issue with Lingard is his ability. Do it on the pitch and the other stuff doesn't matter.

@richardjones3792

4 ай бұрын

No, he didn't. He didn't ever say "rio and Rooney were dancing after losing". Don't bend the truth you sneaky rat.

@MrSolomon21368

4 ай бұрын

But they still had fergie to guide/discipline them

@Glynnermang

4 ай бұрын

​@LienLeon 100%. Becks was a model, pin up and all that Fergie despised but he left it all on that pitch

I’ve always said this was the issue and glad Rooney has confirmed it

The old United took their job seriously and performed soon as they touched the green. Then came the clowns who didn't take the club seriously and that mentality died, the backbone disintegrated and we were left with players who were in it for the fame, the paycheck and the status of playing for United. I knew from the moment Ferguson retired and i stated it globally, "this is an end of an era". The United we have known as passed away that day, watch Sir Bobby throughout the years he knew it. I don't think i will ever see the real United again in my lifetime. Honestly I'm ashamed at this United, this squad especially those that have been here awhile, they have no spine, no backbone, no drive, no soul to carry that lantern and keep this club beating. I miss the good times, the legends now I'm dreading the day our father will leave us.

@shadow_realm47

3 ай бұрын

Bernardo Silva😂

You lose Giggs, ferdinand, vidic ,Rooney and gain a bunch of dancing tik tok girly men who have they hair cut every 3 days🤣🤣

Youth is important but you need older players with the ultimate winning mentality and discipline

Grew up watching the first Man Utd games here in the states. Became a fan quickly and even a bigger fan when Chicharito came on I think he could have done more if SAF stayed but sadly that wasn't the case. Like someone said the men left and the kids stayed which just made the problems bigger. There will never be another SAF but hopefully there will be better times soon. GGMU

Rooney legend

That’s the difference, Rooney played for the badge lingard and pogba only interested in the money

Miss this team man

Ten Hag is bringing that back, just give him time

Men of integrity got replaced by total airheads

Jesse Lingard and Pogba ruined that dressing room

Look where lingard and pogba are now🤣🤣🤣🤣 stupid is an understatement.

@zorashki

Ай бұрын

They arr old tho? 31 soom 32... so

What is interesting, Gennaro Gattusso said the same thing about AC Milan, and referred to El Sharaawy to be more interested in his haircut than Focusing on the training and game. But this could be what evolution and time has done, socialmedia has been good but also affected the sport negative.

Pogba was the catalyst in the downfall of that club

@mursyidomar6995

3 ай бұрын

No, it was Lingard and his stupid dancing. Pogba was a winner at Juve ntus.

@thebighoney9034

3 ай бұрын

@@mursyidomar6995 Carried by Vidal, Marchisio, and Pirlo when Serie A was at its weakest.

It’s when united signed players that are not quite European that’s when it all fell apart. Jesse lingegard , Pogba , Rashford, martial , lukakau. You see the theme

@crocop4life

Ай бұрын

Most of the best teams that win are to non european, you see the theme, best footballers in the world are not british

And that first part is the main reason it fell away so fast under Moyes. He never had a chance. Fergie got a good 20% extra out of those players for one final season. He wouldn’t have been able to do it again. And Moyes was given no money to replace them - then every manager since has spent a fortune achieving nothing!

This is were you need a manager to not take one bit of s### and get rid of these toxic players or not ever sign then in the first place. Lingard, Sancho, pogba, wellbeck ...f######

Pogba and Lingard would not have fucked about if Roy Keane was that radio would have got smashed to pieces

Although Bayerns fall was never even close to that of United, even at a club of the caliber of Bayern the story went similar. Robben, Ribery, Rafinha, Alaba, Boateng, Thiago and Martinez all retired or left the club around 2019/20 and you instantly felt a drop in quality from the 2021 season onwards. The only ones left are Neuer & Muller with some generation overlapping players like Coman and Kimmich but it´s not the same kind of football Bayern fans were used to from the 2010´s era. Its turning into the right direction and we will soon be back or close to our Robbery days but what Rooney says has alot of value: People always expect things to stay the same but its the people, the players in the club that "are" the club in that era. And if the players just aren´t good enough, the fans & the manager are rarely to blame, even though especially the manager is the worst people blame ...

End of an era

Nani is the biggest example He was the next Cristiano. But lack of quality guidance that Cristiano got was missing

@topsykret.

Ай бұрын

Cristiano was born a fighter, Nani wasn‘t.

@saidhammar5006

Ай бұрын

Nani was probably more talented than Ronaldo. But as you said. He wasn't keen to make all the efforts to get there. He was happy with what he had and never reached the top top level

I don't believe a word of it anymore

Lingard man WTH😭😂

Football heritage I guess Jose only one who manage these clown to win something

The kids took over the kindergarten!!

Ah yess, the legendary jesse lingard, who wore the 14 jersey after the humble and obviously, more useful chicharito. Damn

Alex Ferguson is the best manager of all time

Also those kids are being payed way too much, in the first month they are already millionaires, earning way more than an engineer or a doctor, thats ridiculous, they are just football players.

I don't think there is a problem with discipline, coaches like Ancelotti or Guardiola, or Klopp or Simeone seem to find their spot mentally. Maybe a bad pick of players for United.

Well, Mou was right 😂

Footballers generally give far less of a shit now, they get paid eye watering amounts win or lose.

@jonathankennedy1715

17 күн бұрын

Should be performance related

We needed a Keane back in the dressing room to put the likes of pogshit and shitgaard in place… club was dumb keeping them and sacking the managers…clubs been an absolute joke since the day Fergie left