I don’t think they’ll ever be another character like Ronnie.

@H.K.5

Жыл бұрын

@Tony John Instead we’re stuck with annoying characters like Kat, Ben, Stacey, Kim and Freddie.

@user-zw2hn9eu1l

Жыл бұрын

Well Whitney is becoming the new ronnie Mitchell. Out of everyone left she’s had the most depressing storylines since ronnie died.

@MoInspire

Жыл бұрын

​@@user-zw2hn9eu1l Whitney is nothing but a joke anyway!!

@H.K.5

Жыл бұрын

@@user-zw2hn9eu1l I like Whitney but she’s nowhere near as interesting as Ronnie.

@joshdaley5476

Жыл бұрын

Samantha Womack is a brilliant actress

The acting in this storyline particularly from Jessie and Sam was outstanding

@kailewis7025

Жыл бұрын

Outstanding lol... It was giving basic soap standard preformence please calm down it wouldn't win no Oscar lol

@Jarmix-vq3gn

Жыл бұрын

I found the acting very forced and unnatural, like they struggled to portray the realistic emotion in their acting ability because the storyline was so far fetched.

@Leeann-rz3ei

7 ай бұрын

​@@Jarmix-vq3gnwhat do you know about acting? You couldn't act to save your life.

@possumqe9751

7 ай бұрын

@@kailewis7025okay then you act ffs who said it was oscar worthy, only said it was a good performance

I never understood why this storyline was so badly critisized, it was well written and beautifully acted and an insight into how trauma and grief can lead to mental breakdowns like Ronnie. I mean she went through so much, it's really no wonder her mind just snapped the way it did 💔

@billydeeuk

Жыл бұрын

It was going to run and run for years. The child was going to grow up not knowing his true parents. It was a bit of a “jump the shark” moment for EastEnders

@priincexavi5504

Жыл бұрын

I believe it’s mainly because it’s pure evil and it’s beyond Ronnie’s character. I doesn’t make sense for a great woman like Ronnie to do something like this and live with something like this for the rest of her life. Plus, everyone would hate Ronnie and everything she went through goes out the window because of this act. Frankly, I’m glad they pulled the plug much sooner.

@savvystarfire6667

Жыл бұрын

​@@priincexavi5504but when someone mentally breaks, they do act out of character though. She didn't do it as a conscious malicious act; her mind couldn't cope with more tragedy, then when she came to terms with what she did she felt she was in too deep and didn't know how to get out or make things right.

@beryla4979

Жыл бұрын

The reason was because the public found it an inacurate and insensitive portrayal of cot death and just the timing of it wasn't right. A lot of people also thought the storyline was too stressful and dark to broadcast before the watershed. I'm glad it ended early cause it would've gotten annoying if it dragged

@vintagesoup79

11 ай бұрын

As someone, who had a family member that just had the second infant death in two years about a week before this was broadcast, this killed EastEnders for me. Never watched a full episode again. It had jumped shark YEARS before, but this was just disgusting. People were still talking about it's gritty realism then, 😂. This was just cheap sensationalism that was fine for Bryan Kirkwood at Hollyoaks, but crass for BBC flagship EastEnders!

Ron was the most complex character we ever had - unlike Ben, you can sympathise with her sociopathy. She was raped and mentally abused by her own dad, lost 3 children, had a sister/best friend who constantly betrayed her.

@MoInspire

Жыл бұрын

Ronnie was no angel either since she was too much of a control freak at times and very demanding in the process!!

@addiasfan2279

Жыл бұрын

@@MoInspire I literally called her a sociopath meaning she certainly is “no angel.” At least sociopathy is a mental health condition, whereas Roxy was just a slag who slept with two of her sister’s husbands.

@kingwolf243

Жыл бұрын

@@MoInspire when you go through abuse you can become like your abuser for example control which is why Ronine comes off like a control freek. hope this helps you to understand what ronine had become.

@MoInspire

Жыл бұрын

@@kingwolf243 Fair enough but still since she did treat her husband Charlie like dirt plus she had an affair with Vincent behind her back as well!!

@kingwolf243

Жыл бұрын

@@MoInspire definitely LOL 😆

I miss Ronnie so much. I know what she did was so wrong but I’ll always love her, she went through so much since she was a young girl and lost so many children. She will always be my favourite character, along with Stacey😭

Ronnie!!! Samantha Womack was an absolute star in EastEnders. Massively missed!

@ysky6655

Жыл бұрын

That’s fair enough! I thought she was absolutely fantastic. My favourite character hands down!

@theyoungwolf9852

Жыл бұрын

Biggest mistake eastenders ever made in their history is killing off Ronnie and Roxy

@Michael.ChelseaFC4605

Жыл бұрын

Stopped Watching For 11 Months Straight After When They Killed Off Ronnie And Roxy In The Swimming Pool 😠, I May Watch Eastenders Today But I'll Never Forgive The BBC For What They Did 😡😡😡

@user-zw2hn9eu1l

Жыл бұрын

I agree she was one of the best actresses and had some amazing storylines, I wish they gave her a happier storyline as well and I wish they hadn’t killed her off. They could’ve wrote her out with baby Matthew so she would’ve got a happy ending and could always come back if she wanted. I think they gave her such depressing storylines was because she was so good at pulling them off.

@Michael.ChelseaFC4605

Жыл бұрын

@@user-zw2hn9eu1l Still Makes Me Upset To This Day 😭 I May Still Watch Today But It's Never Going To Be The Same From How Great Eastenders Was Compared To When Ronnie And Roxy Where In The Show ☹️

I remember this, I was pregnant with my son I had to stop watching. This story line was so sad and heartbreaking 😢 the acting was absolutely amazing 👏

Oh my god I remember the first time I saw the scene with Ronnie finding the baby passed away I cried so much It was so well acted

I remember this when they did the baby swap storyline and I was 13/14 at the time, looking back at it I can see how controversial it was. Not to mention it was back in the day when EastEnders was worth watching.

@user-zw2hn9eu1l

Жыл бұрын

Yes I was only about 12. I didn’t understand why it was so controversial at the time. I read that Samantha Womack really didn’t like the storyline and she got quit a lot of abuse from the public for it.

@Benratbag1997

Жыл бұрын

@@user-zw2hn9eu1l I don’t blame Samantha Womack, it’s not her fault though. It’s the producers who came up with the storyline.

@Black.Sabbath

7 ай бұрын

Don't see why

The most harrowing storyline on the show.

There are storylines that stay with you forever. I miss Ronnie so much.

The difference between Eastenders and Corrie is bloody good writing. Corrie would never think up something this good. Genius!

@PINKKYLIELOUISE

Жыл бұрын

Emmerdale would

@DeepScreenAnalysis

11 ай бұрын

Babyswitching is literally a standard plot of any American soap opera, it's not innovative.

@Doctor180185

11 ай бұрын

@@DeepScreenAnalysis it is for British writers!

watching this at the time was crazy. people would literally (&unfortunately) shout abuse at Samantha on the street because her acting was that good in the show. the best times of Eastenders

This was the most tragic and depressing storyline EE did.

When she sniffs him, gets me every time.

@MrPARKERSBIRD

Жыл бұрын

The bit that gets me is when their eyes lock with each other’s.

My favourite Eastenders character ever, queen Ronnie

This storyline was bonkers!

i vividly remember this storyline and i was like 11

Jessie Wallis was amazing in this story. You can really see the emotions intensifying when Kat is reunited with her little boy. God, if that happened to me, she would've got a slap. Also, I lost my brother, who I never met to SIDS

@thetruth2929

Жыл бұрын

Wait until he finds out the babies is not his. If you haven't watched it yet the old episodes. Heart breaking.

Ronnie Mitchell was one of eastenders greatest actresses why they killed her of was so wrong she never got happiness which was one thing she truly deserved with all the tragedy and misery her character endured

you colour co ordinated ya pencil's LOL

The most disturbing episode ever to be seen on Eastenders Great acting by both.

This is when EE peaked at it's best

Smashing acting. ❤❤❤❤

Was an amazing story something doubt any other soap has done

I'd just had a miscarriage when this aired and I was disgusted. losing a baby is bad enough but Anyone who's lost a child wouldn't EVER deliberately put any parents through that kinda grief because we know what it's like and it never ends

@persephone3309

7 ай бұрын

I'm so sorry for your loss. I do think it was showing that Ronnie was really gone, mentally. She'd experienced her children's deaths 4 times (danielle twice because Archie lied, said she died at 5 I think). I cannot imagine going through such a horrific thing once let alone as many times as Ronnie. I feel like I would go insane from it genuinely. We saw Ronnie was starting to get a bit unhinged after Danielle with her baby obsession. This was the final straw.

Distasteful storyline…great acting tho

@TheBenAppleby

Жыл бұрын

Incredibly distasteful. Well acted but I'm not sure I even feel comfortable knowing this is being shown again. My thoughts are with anybody personally affected by this storyline. 💙

@Black.Sabbath

7 ай бұрын

​@@theyoungwolf9852 Nightmares from what rofl

@MsTinkerbelle87

6 ай бұрын

@@Black.Sabbathbeing kidnapped?

Oh god i forgot about this

This storyline was incredible and heartbreaking 💔.

Wonderful story line wow wow wow ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

I Wish EastEnders Wood Bring Back Ronnie She Was my Favourite in Eastenders Ronnie's The Only Character That Care s about everyone. In Eastenders

I remember this

The acting in east Enders used to be soooooooooo good

I Miss Ronnie Mitchell So Much Always Breaks My Heart The Only Ever True Love In Jack's Life 😭😭😭 Kat Slater Absolute Legend, Eastenders Very Lucky To Still Have Legendary Characters Like Phil Mitchell, Kat Slater, Stacey Slater Or Nobody Would Watch The Show Ever Again Otherwise The Real Truth Facts 🙂

I thought it was sick what they done

Ronnie, I miss him.😢

@Itsliz1984

Жыл бұрын

Her

Back when EastEnders was unreal 🤣

For those who don’t understand the backlash against this storyline I’ll explain from my point of view, please be kind. This storyline feeds into the tired tropes that those of us who have lost children would seek to replace them with another child which just isn’t possible they are irreplaceable, the idea that we would snatch someone else’s child because our own has died is sadly something people still do believe. It also encourages people to believe that once a mother loses a child she’ll lose her mind completely and start doing crazy things, again people believe this is true and it’s not the case. It’s devastating and life changing losing a child but that doesn’t mean we are “crazy” child snatchers. The only thing any mother wants when they lose a child is to have their own baby back, their baby not anyone else’s. Yes it’s just a soap but a lot of these storylines feed into the way people think. Eastenders have since approached a few different baby loss storylines in significantly better ways, still room for improvement, it would be nice to see Jack actually mention his son James, rather than just getting married around or on his birthday/date of death for example. Him and Ronnie getting married around James’ birthday or possibly even on it and not even mentioning the significance of the date made no sense. The children we lose are never forgotten, except in soap!

@MH-es8kp

Жыл бұрын

Also the concept that Ronnie would sit back and let another family have her dead child and cradle him and bury him is just lunacy. There was no way I was handing my daughter over to someone else after she died, having to let her go for the final time was the biggest trauma of all, we hold them as long as we can. ❤

@grose2272

Жыл бұрын

​@@MH-es8kp ❤ I'd know I would do exactly the same..

@iris7301

Жыл бұрын

@@grose2272The hell??

@JAGUARWright-Johnson-ne3os

5 ай бұрын

The point was Ronnie is a women who was graped by her own father from a young age and had lost 3 children! She finally snapped and lost it. Nobody watched this and thought, oh women who have lost a child seek to replace that child.

@JAGUARWright-Johnson-ne3os

5 ай бұрын

I mean, remember her daughter who her father forced her to give up for adoption, then she came back around, but didn't know she was her mother. Then when she found out she ran to her and her daughter was ran over and killed right Infront of her. Ronnie had been thru deep trauma and this caused her to finally lose it.

I dont get why Ronnie didnt call Jack or the ambulance

@askabi

Жыл бұрын

She was in shock and then when her brain couldn't deal with another trauma it tried to shield her.

This is so upsetting 😢 it reminds me of sue osman with hassan

They made it look like ronnie was a sociopath from the abuse of her father. I noticed roxy saying about ronnie being a control freak colour co-ordinating her pencils. And taking kats baby when hers died, id spend ages explaining the ways of a sociopath but thats how they made ronnie look!!

If her baby died why she back in a hospital 🏥 night gown

This is actually so upsetting, sending so much love to them all, hope that they are okay now, of course they will never be the same but they will always be with them by heart and spirit x

@harrydrinkwater7315

9 ай бұрын

It’s not real?

They done Ronnie dirty with the kids she has lost 😢

I think Ronnie is in Amy's memories as a ghost

@dynahvelvixin.8615

9 ай бұрын

No that's Roxy.

I miss Ronnie. She was so complex and great to watch

I never watched EastEnders again when they killed the sisters off they were brill xxx

@sallyjoan

Ай бұрын

i watched it even more when they left

My heart absolutely aches for anyone that loses a baby. But to inflict pain on another mother by swapping babies knowing what it feels like infuriates me . I was so hoping to see kat pass the baby to Alfie and slap her one it's something I would do if anyone did this to me . Whether it's the woman wasn't thinking, thinking or not thinking putting a new mom through that aswell. Don't care what anyone says

@Leeann-rz3ei

7 ай бұрын

Youre wrong.

@ghostdemon7936

7 ай бұрын

​@@Leeann-rz3ei No, that sounds reasonable to me. A slap would he the least to be inflicted if someone kidbdnapped my baby.

@Leeann-rz3ei

7 ай бұрын

@@ghostdemon7936 what do you mean, 'your baby!? I bet you'd be glad, you'd have peace and quiet at last. And you'd probably get ten times worse back if you tried to slap anyone!

@Leeann-rz3ei

7 ай бұрын

Something you would do! You'd get ten times worse back if you tried to slap someone, i know you would. And Ronnie would hit Kat much harder, maybe even the kid too.

This storyline ruined Ronnie. When she came back, there was always a sense the producers were trying to punish her- until they finally did. She became a killer and a gangster and most of her nuances were gone. A shame, because Sam Womack is a fantastic actress.

They had to cut this storyline short because sam got very ill

@Itsliz1984

Жыл бұрын

What happened to her?

@Anonymous_Anon882

Жыл бұрын

@@Itsliz1984 nothing. It was because of how complained-about the story was. Womack’s health was fine.

@paradisek4277

Жыл бұрын

No because she quit when she was handed this script

@Anonymous_Anon882

Жыл бұрын

@@paradisek4277 exactly. The media kind of did try to make out like she was having a mental breakdown because of the grief she got from all those crazy fans out there who can’t distinguish between characters and their actual real-life actors but she spoke out against it and confirmed it wasn’t true. She left specifically because she hated being caught in the thick of such a raggedy controversial story.

@aimeewhelan9897

10 ай бұрын

No she didn’t get sick , she quit because she hated the storyline snd the ended the storyline early.

I know a lot of people had problems with this storyline. Me personally it was must see television back then. Was an elite story. I think people over reacted a bit. End of the day it’s a soap, and yes it should show of real life issues properly, But also it should have that soap edge as well. I think you could see in Ronnie the actual grief of losing her third child. And we saw the effects of SIDS in Kat and Ronnie. And then of course the added thing of the baby swap for extra drama. Was it necessary to have the two together. Probably not. But at least you could see reasoning behind ronnies action. And it’s fiction as we’ll. And I thought it was executed and ended great. Unlike let’s say the Gray storyline. Where it went from domestic abuse to serial killer.

@aimeewhelan9897

10 ай бұрын

It only ended because people called for it to end it was meant to go on for years

@ghostdemon7936

7 ай бұрын

I watched TV fo4bescapiam not depresson. Nothing entertaining about this storyline. EE took itself too seriously and went downhill. Same as Corrie.

Should've done a DNA test.

It was fantastic,they've ruined it now

That's not Kat's baby Ronnie has Kat's baby

This storyline was absolutely disgusting and should never have been aired.

@sallyjoan

Ай бұрын

nothing wrong with it at all.

@jimmykray9583

Ай бұрын

@@sallyjoan how?? It’s insulting to anyone who’s lost a baby, it’s disgusting

I was never a soap person but I kinda liked the drama of eastenders lmao. I stopped watching when her and Roxy were killed off. It was one of the biggest mistakes

Am i the only one that totally disliked Ronnie since she was too much of a control freak at times and a attention seeker at the same time??

@ellz01

Жыл бұрын

No your not the only one

@Itsliz1984

Жыл бұрын

I couldn't stand her.

@deanjohnston5699

Жыл бұрын

You can’t appreciate complex and layered characters

@MoInspire

Жыл бұрын

@@deanjohnston5699 Yeah but their were times she was a cow and completely out of order like the way she treated Charlie and Roxy for example, causing Fatboy's death, stole Kat and Alfie's baby and threatened to evict them and the way she treated Danielle aswell!!

@iris7301

Жыл бұрын

She was very irritating

When EastEnders was good!!! It's come to shits now!! With the knights as the new mains😴😴 and Cindy alive they really running out of ideas

@sallyjoan

Ай бұрын

what on earth do you know?

@hustleno-filta5373

Ай бұрын

@sallyjoan nothing at all I'm clueless never mind my dumb arse🤲🏾

11:23 Kat's face looks so laughable, during a serious scene, she should've layed off the botox. She was so pretty from 2000-2005.

@Black.Sabbath

7 ай бұрын

How?

@j04370859

7 ай бұрын

@@Black.Sabbath How what?

@Black.Sabbath

7 ай бұрын

@@j04370859 How is it laughable and what's it got to do with B?

@j04370859

7 ай бұрын

@BLACK.SABBATH Her face looks frozen, and that's the cause of botox, just look at her.

@Black.Sabbath

7 ай бұрын

@@j04370859 I can see lines

Ronnie was evil

When a baby girl is born it is tender loving care galore. Her mother (especially) ensures she is breastfed as long as possible, she is kissed/cuddled constantly, she eats organic and is never beaten for misbehaving. When someone criticises her the slightest they suffer the severe consequences! When a boy is born he is very quickly weaned off his mother's milk, is fed lower quality food and is beaten for misbehaving and told to "man up". Honestly female humans are treated with utter kid gloves. No wonder they outlive men by 6 years!!!

@not_that_emmawatson

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂 you have mummy issues and it shows.

@i_kissed_a_pixie1537

Жыл бұрын

I think you need some rest psychological care

@sallyjoan

Ай бұрын

@@i_kissed_a_pixie1537 what do you know?

wish I hadn't wached this tbh. It's ABSOLUTELY HEART BREAKING =[

I'm glad Ronnie is gone for good she really worse than Archie.

@MoInspire

Жыл бұрын

Innit!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

@jahmeilwellington6681

Жыл бұрын

She lost her baby and she was grieving

@mizanurkhair2896

Жыл бұрын

@@jahmeilwellington6681 Doesn't matter she should've fort about that earlier.

@jahmeilwellington6681

11 ай бұрын

​@@mizanurkhair2896she was GRIEVING!

@mizanurkhair2896

11 ай бұрын

@@jahmeilwellington6681 so nothing ever changes with Ronnie and even said it herself she a coward.