Ron Odrich - clarinet legend AND periodontist talks clarinet articulation and tone

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Ron Odrich learned from the legends and was a world renown periodonist. This gives a truly unique set of insights on how to understand our clarinet embouchure, tongue position, and voicing on the clarinet. Hear insights from the only person to hold all of this information in one place.

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  • @sandrajoseph2432
    @sandrajoseph2432Күн бұрын

    Extremely informative conversation.

  • @clarinetninja

    @clarinetninja

    Күн бұрын

    Ron is one of the most interesting people I have ever met. First off, incredibly kind. The amazing musician, clarinetist, life story, dentistry, author...make his authenticity more inspiring

  • @zathrasnotzathras9435
    @zathrasnotzathras94353 ай бұрын

    I didn’t expect this to be assassinating as it turned out to be. Thanks to both of you for taking the time to put this together. I can’t wait to go to my dentist on Tuesday and ask him how vaulted my pallet is. Because whenever I’ve tried to make that E sound, it seems like I’m choking off my air supply. It makes me wonder if my pallet is pretty flat and I have to do something else.

  • @clarinetninja

    @clarinetninja

    3 ай бұрын

    Ron is extraordinarily well versed in clarinet and dentistry. I look forward to hearing what your dentist says!

  • @paulglobus9999
    @paulglobus99993 ай бұрын

    Thanks for this. Mr Odrich’s insights are excellent.

  • @KierynKilminster
    @KierynKilminster2 ай бұрын

    Thank you both! Fascinating conversation, that tells me to trust my own experience more when it comes to embrochure/air etc. Im a scientist and clarinetist, and so often it seems like there is so many dark arts involved in playing clarinet. Its so refreshing to hear this conversation. I loved hearing that it's a bad idea to articulate actually engaging the larynx to make the vowel sound. I never have, but often questioned if i was doing it 'right'.

  • @clarinetninja

    @clarinetninja

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. Ron is the best person I have ever spoken with in addressing the dark arts of clarinet playing. My thought (not really mine - I stole it) is that good teaching allows for the student to learn and be able to play things in half the time it took the teacher. Having Ron's words put to so many of these things is a gift to that endeavor. My mom told me about this video "it's like he gave you a lesson for an hour" and I said "yes he did"

  • @KierynKilminster

    @KierynKilminster

    2 ай бұрын

    @@clarinetninja aw love your mum's insights! And thanks for your content too, Ive delved into quite a bit over last year or so (although this is my first comment). I believe I was very fortunate with my first teacher (who explained things in terms of anatomy, also being a medical student)... But after a substantial gap playing only intermittently over several decades as an adult, I've been left trying to understand what in my technique is good versus problematic, as I challenge myself to get truly proficient. This particular video spoke to me in so many meaningful ways... I'll likely rewatch it :)

  • @clarinetninja

    @clarinetninja

    2 ай бұрын

    @@KierynKilminster Thanks! I am always happy to hear about people coming back to the clarinet. I am even more excited that my content has helped some too. I have some exciting things I am launching soon. If you are not on my mailing list and want to be - would you email me at theclarinetninja@gmail.com so I can put you on :)

  • @humbertobravo7504
    @humbertobravo75043 ай бұрын

    This is insight and knowledge everyone should know, and I’m glad your platform has reached out to me! Thank you for your content and interviews, it keeps me curious and learning.

  • @user-ri9hk9mv6z
    @user-ri9hk9mv6z3 ай бұрын

    😮

  • @mozarte
    @mozarte3 ай бұрын

    I always have big doubt of the eee of hee method... and yes. The maestro have answered my 20 over years of doubt. Thank you!

  • @kharmaviv
    @kharmaviv3 ай бұрын

    Wow! Such a pleasure. I enjoyed learning so much. ❤ 🎶

  • @clarinetninja

    @clarinetninja

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you!:)

  • @thornsaresharp
    @thornsaresharp3 ай бұрын

    At last. Someone to speak to . Had to give up the clarinet after 10 years playing because of severe pains in my teeth. After six months rest, started playing again and the pains came back. Admittedly I used to play very high notes but I did not consciously bite the mouthpiece. Your comments would be much appreciated.

  • @clarinetninja

    @clarinetninja

    3 ай бұрын

    My first thought (maybe so simple in nature that you have already done this) is that you get a black mouthpiece patch. Which teeth are painful? Have you spoken to your regular dentist? Have you tried playing double lipped? These are my immediate ideas....I fear that they are insultingly stupid though (I hope not)

  • @thornsaresharp

    @thornsaresharp

    3 ай бұрын

    @@clarinetninja Sold my clarinets long ago. Now 84 years old. Never heard of the double lip technique until today! Felt stupid about asking someone for help. Also had the feeling my teachers were just trying to make some extra money to make ends meet, and weren't going to give any secrets away. Time to make a new start perhaps, as I have time on my hands. Sincerest thanks.

  • @clarinetninja

    @clarinetninja

    3 ай бұрын

    @@thornsaresharp whether you start again or not...keep watching:) if you do start up again, let me know - I will do whatever I can to help!

  • @thornsaresharp

    @thornsaresharp

    3 ай бұрын

    @@clarinetninja Thanks Ron. Made my day.

  • @allanjmcpherson
    @allanjmcpherson3 ай бұрын

    I agree with the takeaway that we shouldn't be dogmatic about technique. If something works, it works! I don't know how useful it is to get super into the anatomy. I used to think it was. Sometimes I still do. But often the realities of the anatomy are so removed from our experience (or our students') that I think it's better to work with sensation, images and exploration. For example, I'm one of those players who goes as far as the cat hissing sound. It's what I teach my students. Even if it's too far for them, I find most students start out with the tongue arched too little. So if I encourage them to go too far, they're pretty good at backing off on that until they find something that works. And it's much quicker to do that than to constantly be encouraging them to arch their tongue more.

  • @clarinetninja

    @clarinetninja

    3 ай бұрын

    Where Ron's expertise is most impactful, in my opinion, is that he knows the indirect result of an anatomical action as well as well as the direct result. That kind of thing is next level. I have never felt successful talking to a student about where their tongue should be. Not only can I not see it, I am not sure they know where it is either. I have used a lot of different ways of trying to trigger a change in peoples voicing. Most of the time, I default to a series of exercises where the results indicate if things are right and try to interject with minimal instructions of specific muscles doing a specific thing. All too often, in my experience, that causes people to make things more tense. That tension spreads to other places and causes a cascade of other problems. Blending technical instructions while having a student develop a concept of sound that they are aiming for is the best path for me. All too often, developing a concept of sound is the biggest challenge for me to get someone to do.

  • @ootlattle5450
    @ootlattle54503 ай бұрын

    Awesome… this is really good. I find “people who can, do; people who can’t, teach” is mostly wrong. It should be that people who “find it easy shouldn’t teach” because their methods often don’t apply to others. Also, I have Sobotta, I use the 4 volumes as a monitor stand, internet is far easier.

  • @clarinetninja

    @clarinetninja

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks! Ron is truly a one of a kind with incredible information and a kind soul

  • @user-ri9hk9mv6z
    @user-ri9hk9mv6z3 ай бұрын

    People who love this guy 👇

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