A brilliant discussion between three great football men

I'm too young to remember the 1982 world cup, but everything I've ever watched and read about it suggests to me that, for the British teams, fans and media, it was at least as much a holiday as it was a football tournament. This video does not alter my opinion. Spain should have another world cup. It would be amazing.

It was said of Don Howe that the only time he ever smiled was in the full squad team photo - as it was the only time EVERY player was behind the ball.

@kailashpatel1706

3 жыл бұрын

class..

@billybigtime2808

3 жыл бұрын

Ha ha ha ha absolutely quality

@vantheman1238

Жыл бұрын

Brilliant

@philiporme9061

3 ай бұрын

Was heading off on a Camping holiday when this fascinating Discussion was taking place. On the following Monday watched England exit the Tournament, after a Tedious 0-0 draw against Spain, in a Bar in Paris. Ended up on a campsite in Italy full of Germans watching the Final took. So glad Italy won 😂😂😂!

It should have been Brian Clough and Peter Taylor sat there by that pool

Amazing interview. World Cup winner questions Greenwood who was cosched at Brentford by Hogan and Howe who replaced Edwards after February 1958. Icons in the game.

@shaka7594

16 күн бұрын

Howe didn't replace Edwards, he was already in the squad and was a full back not a half back, Bill Slater and Maurice Setters came in for the half back cover with Eddie Clamp/Ronnie Clayton the main Right Half's.

I can’t believe that Jack and Don are aged 47 in this film. Six years younger than me 🤦‍♂️😂

@andrewyoung1652

2 ай бұрын

They could easily be in their 70’s here 🤔

Great interview

I know everyone goes on about how Brian Clough should of been England manager. Well, I think Jack Charlton would of been worthy of a shout!

@kailashpatel1706

3 жыл бұрын

yep...for 1982 he would have been worthy..

@fartybutt2666

2 жыл бұрын

Spot on there, hairynews

Amazing footage

I think Ron Greenwood was a very underrated manager for England. Two qualifications out of two and unbeaten in Espana '82 during his five years as manager. This was pretty impressive considering that England hadn't played in a World Cup since 1970 and had failed to qualify for the previous three international tournaments prior to his appointment in 1977.

@kailashpatel1706

Жыл бұрын

The only game he lost was the match against Italy in Euro 80 by the edge of their pants..1-0...and they could easily have drawn it..he was still not the right man for the job though

@kailashpatel1706

11 ай бұрын

I've long been interested by how Clough and Taylor would have played England in this period in the late 1970s and early 1980s..I think they would have gone with this team, playing like a 4-3-3, Shilton in goal, V. Anderson/T.Butcher/Alvin Martin, D. Statham...G.Cowans, (Screener) B. Robson/G.Hoddle/..T.Woodcock, C.Regis/T.Francis..It would have been Kevin Beattie for Alvin Martin if his career had not ended at end of 1980..

@Ruda-n4h

4 ай бұрын

During his tenure with England what Greenwood needed was the type of attacking players he produced at West Ham like Peters and Hurst and the tragedy for him was the clubs did not produce them for him. In the 1982 World Cup when he needed deputies for Keegan and Brooking, they were not there. I would not accept that Greenwood was anything other than a success and in his spell he did more for England and English football than anyone else in the history of the game.

These gentlemen are doing a fantastic job analyzing the game. It tells me that the typical English game, characterized by long balls from the back, is just a cliche. In fact, it’s an insult compared to the knowledge displayed by them.

How good is this. When a interviewer knows as much about the game as the interviewees. Lol you're not going to hogwash big Jack. Thank you for this incredible video. And do you have the full post match analysis from the BBC from the actual game?

@kailashpatel1706

3 жыл бұрын

i would appreciate that well..i would love to see ITV coverage as well

Best World Cup for me. I remember it well, I was 13-years-old.

@MrRobertcoates1

Ай бұрын

I was 11 but the best one for me was Mexico 86. But what a match Brazil v Italy was

This certainly makes a change from the normal type of interview where a relatively clueless journalist tries to challenge the manager on his tactics.

Superb, this.

When footy mattered

Top class !!

Jack grilling them. Howe's face looked in pain.

Jack should have had a go at being England manager, he did great with the ROI. Even the Arthur theme tune in the back ground, great 80s stuff.

@chrisfallon9678

2 жыл бұрын

We're talking about bloody Madrid 😂😂

Great intervirw

Not surprising when listening to this that England's goals scored declined game-by-game in this tournament: 3-2-1-0-0

@MVgaming627

Жыл бұрын

They could have won it all. Kaltz was a great crosser but stopping him was the height of England's ambition, sadly this England deserved better

Weeks before the 1982 World Cup, the sportswriter Tony Francis, having been turned down for an interview with England manager Ron Greenwood said pithily: ‘There’s one thing better than getting an interview with Ron Greenwood, and that’s not getting an interview with Ron Greenwood’.

@kailashpatel1706

Жыл бұрын

class..

The music at the background Christopher Cross’ Arthur’s Theme. Manfred Kaltz was a great crosser of the ball.

I've just put a £50 bet on England to win the 82 World Cup, full of hopes after that.

@TB.....

2 жыл бұрын

Good luck.

They clearly respected the Germans, as they should have, but probably worried too much about stopping them rather than playing their own game

@r4h4al

3 жыл бұрын

It's okay if we get a draw.

Truth is Greenwood’s nerve went and as a result we went out of the World Cup without losing a game.

1982 World Cup England won three games and drew two and went home. These two were so defensive and are talking to Jack Charlton as if he’s only ever played non-league. Jack won the World Cup and let Ireland to the Quarter Final of the World Cup!

This is how you should treat England managers, they're public servants after all.

Brian Clough & Peter Taylor would have won the world Cup for Us (England), If they had been given the Chance.

Suspect Cloughie would have done about as well managing England as the--I think--Croatian bloke at Morocco who fell out with Ziyech and was fortunately replaced three months before the 2022 World Cup

Interesting to look at the people in the background. Not fat bodies or tattoos. My high times have changed. I remember this interview. Ron Greenwood got a bit of stick from the studio monkeys for his response to the criticism received from them.

Great World Cup. FORZA ITALIA.

@As-zn3cd

Жыл бұрын

yeah!!!

Ahhh the days when presenters were presenters, interviewers were interviewers and football was free from the straight jacket of PR puff and generic media trained neutrality.

This interview encapsulates everything that is wrong with English football and why we'll never win anything. Too technical, too formulaic, too cautious, too predictable. And on the night, most of the team are petrified with making mistake.

@ianjones3568

3 жыл бұрын

@@alwilfrid thanks for saying. We're a better tournament team but sadly the national team, like so many other institutions has been consumed by woke. As a result, I'd rather they didn't win anything. Sad but true.

@ianjones3568

3 жыл бұрын

@@alwilfrid I think you've encapsulated it. It is a massive thing now, vast amounts of money, preparation, facilities, wage packets. With the effort, money and talent available, the final is the minimum we should expect. The average fan has to shell out so much for tickets and soon they'll need full covid injections. It's a game for the millionaires and big corporates though now. I just cannot get enthused with that. And the lionising of non-white players has reached ridiculous levels where St Marcus of Rashford now dictates government policy. We live in clownworld now and football is reflecting that. The last euro comp was just distraction from the destruction of your country and people. It's a facade. I wish people would see what a sinister world we're heading into and channel their energy in the right places.

@vantheman1238

Жыл бұрын

Well said Sir

Greenwood and Howe were out of their league ! Clough + Taylor would not of had a problem !!!

@ashleyhyne7027

Ай бұрын

What are you on?

@kailashpatel1706

26 күн бұрын

@@ashleyhyne7027 No fan of Clough?

Never used Hoddle

Can’t be Carte Blanche You mean you can’t be Cavalier Ron?

Who won the 82 World Cup?

@jamesgreen8573

Жыл бұрын

Italy

England made a blistering start to the 1982 World Cup, and then ambled through the rest of it in a drunken stupor ...

@As-zn3cd

Жыл бұрын

italy did the opposite started slow and then beat everyone ontgeir way to winning the cup

Stopping pointing at a World Cup winner Don

England limped out of that World Cup.

@anthonybailey1966

3 жыл бұрын

....as opposed to being beaten!

The key reason for England's failure at 1982 was Don Howe...

@mcharris5200

4 жыл бұрын

Nonsense you write Kailash Patel. I suggest you watch the interview from 4mns 50 seconds. Don Howe was a superb defensive coach who was 2nd to none in English football. He was one of the reasons of Englands successes in the late 80's and at Italia 1990 not to mention his involvement with Wimbledon and Bobby Gould for the 88 Fa cup win. The reason why we went home unbeaten was because of the silly format being used then plus a fit Paul Mariner and Trevor Francis were not as good as 'Keegan and Brooking' up front for England. If Brian Clough had of been in charge and The FA stopped appointing "yes men" only then may it of been different

@kailashpatel1706

4 жыл бұрын

@@mcharris5200 Howe helped England's defensive shape..but Greenwood should have played Brooking, Hoddle and Keegan from start..if they faded due to fitness, play Francis and Mariner in second half with Hoddle still in midfield..

@mcharris5200

4 жыл бұрын

@@kailashpatel1706 agreed. 'Greenwood' should of been more adventurous knowing he had all those attacking players at his disposal and should he of taken the risk with two unfit players!?...the jury is still out on the 'Keegan-Brooking' debacle

@anthonybailey1966

3 жыл бұрын

No the key reason was not taking their chances in the Spain game!

@kailashpatel1706

3 жыл бұрын

@@anthonybailey1966 i agree, i think they had 4 times more shots on goal than Spain, it was not just the Brooking and Keegan misses (Butcher shaved the bar and other chances as well)..i treally think a better manager would have laid the seeds for the 1982 World Cup post 1980 Euros...sadly under Greenwood it did not happen

Worst England squad ever. Some embarrassing defeats the football just big boot ball in the air bouncing around absolute garbage no ball control. Clough would have played the ball on the ground.