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5 ай бұрын

no

@mncedladla8322

4 ай бұрын

6:20 6:21 6:22

@josebolivarfernandez5457

4 ай бұрын

Gracias. 🙌🏽

@Slayn5

4 ай бұрын

Lo haria si fuera español de españa, no español de america del sur.

@maurizioperaltta9942

3 ай бұрын

no trae ese boton

Companies like gym shark have lot to be held accountable for, as they seem to exclusively hire people who use steroids, but deny it publicly. This is setting unrealistic body expectations in the eyes of young people.

@InsoSan

7 ай бұрын

make sense, as they want models with society's ideal bodies to rep their apparel

@NikSan1983

7 ай бұрын

thats 100 % correct !

@MFaintReal

7 ай бұрын

Fitness companies love promoting the ‘plus size’ females yet use fake nattys for the male audience

@Unwanted_truth_

7 ай бұрын

Stupid is as stupid does The opportunity to do stupid things will always be there but only stupid people will choose it, that's on them

@jeonlyxoxo

7 ай бұрын

Yes, Gymshark capitalized on young male insecurities by aligning with the emerging male aesthetics trend. These physiques are evidently not naturally attained. Teenagers, being susceptible, can be swayed. Gymshark undeniably exerted a significant influence on this generation. They're now trying to shift their image to one that's more inclusive and diverse. Too late.

Ive been training naturally for 20 years. Ive lost count of the number of juicers ive seen inflate and deflate as they cycle on and off before eventually retiring from the gym and steroids due to health issues. Social media and unethical practices in the fitness industry have made the situation so much worse.

@_7.8.6

7 ай бұрын

What pisses me off the most about these so called influencers is, they lie by omission. Tell you do x y z and take this supplement but all along they’re on the juice

@TheJuice_1995

7 ай бұрын

Natural muscle is real muscle

@bawanggoreng2313

7 ай бұрын

@@_7.8.6 money is money, viewers is all they need. no matter whatever they say about health they even killing themslef slowly, the better doing how to use the gym equipments or so, and they shouldnt giving advice about health and fitness at all.

@damienholland8103

7 ай бұрын

Well, it doesn't help that so many people commenting online make excuses for it or say that it's not unhealthy if taken the 'right way'. People shouldn't touch any of this stuff, period, unless it's for a medical reason approved by a doctor for example TRT. But that would be to fix a medical issue not for performance enhancement.

@Wolaninata

7 ай бұрын

Can bulk and cut x4 over 2 years make you properly built?

Very interesting video. I'm a pharmacy technician and I'd like to add something. In order to prepare solutions that are going to be injected into the body, it's crucial to have sterile lab conditions. The dealer in the video used a microfilter with a vacuum pump to get rid of impurities, which I supose is much more than other dealers do, but the materials used and the environment weren't sterile. For the liquid to be completely safe, he would need a laminar flow cabinet with some kind of UV irradiation to kill all the microorganism present (Sorry for my English, it's not my main language)

@goodvibes-pw9xl

3 ай бұрын

Thank you, very interesting information.

@gokuworld

3 ай бұрын

Great info

@roberttrent4388

3 ай бұрын

You dont know that, it only showed the end step, sterilizing equipment is a simple as boiling water

@alexv968

3 ай бұрын

@@roberttrent4388 Even if you sterilize it, the moment you take the material to the open air, it isn't sterilized anymore. There are microorganisms floating in the air. And boiling water doesn't kill everything

@RSeamus

3 ай бұрын

@@roberttrent4388 boiling starilizes things for that time only. If you boil things and use them they're going to instantly get microbes again from the environment unless it's a sterile environment like used in labs. You don't know the huge precautions and work it takes for keeping an area sterile complettely until the product is packaged closed and secured if you think boiling in a kitchen = sterile product.

The coach who mentioned body dysmorphia was really hitting the nail on the head, even though that clip was just a few seconds. Everyday people who are just getting bigger for the sake of "looking good" need help. Like people who get plastic surgery because they think they dont look good enough.

@mihneaiordan1813

3 ай бұрын

This is even worse, because anabolics can give you ED. And then it won't matter how sexy you are.

@BULD0SIS

3 ай бұрын

men gets 0 attention for their entire life especially these day, of course this is the result

@4evermilkman

2 ай бұрын

​@@mihneaiordan1813so can cigarettes, so it won't matter how cool you are. Men's penises can be sensitive things

@smusssato

Ай бұрын

I think it is even more sad bc most guys just want to get scary so karens stop harassing em. If you want to date a girl you just need to act as gay as humanly possible.

@toxicking2455

19 күн бұрын

Don’t compare yourself to others. What you said sounds very correct.

When a dealer is telling young people not to take steriods, that's all need to know on how truly dangerous it is.

@ewjiml

5 ай бұрын

He’s a drug dealer with a conscious. Yeah hes in it for the money like any other dealer, except he don’t wanna kill people, especially 16 year old kids.

@youshouldntdothis5747

5 ай бұрын

Not just a dealer, producer too

@Ja-tz5rs

5 ай бұрын

it's not dangerous if you have more than 2 brain cells...

@baraka629

4 ай бұрын

Yeah but if its suddenly called "transitioning" then take all the steroids in the world and then some! Hilarious how this works 😂

@obsidianman4990

4 ай бұрын

@@baraka629 That is so true

mad respect to john for being so brutally honest

@Berengier817

7 ай бұрын

Absolutely. I have completely different health issues that required a major surgery, and I recorded something for the doctor about the importance of not fucking up. The best people are those that are honest about their mistakes and warn others.

@MeatCatCheesyBlaster

7 ай бұрын

He’s full of crap ‘I’m an ethical drug dealer’ “not all drug dealers are trying to kill people” goes on to say he sells steroids to teenagers. He literally is killing people just not instantly

@kamrantazz

7 ай бұрын

He's honest about it but he still sells them to the kids!

@drewc1991

7 ай бұрын

girls don't like fat guys. but it seems they don't mind his tiny balls 😂

@user-vo9wd6tx6c

7 ай бұрын

The really messed up thing about steroids is that the relatively safe ones (anavar and primobolan) are the most difficult to find. They are often faked with winstrol/dianabol and masteron, respectively, which are quite a bit less safe. Anavar and primobolan should be legalized for harm reduction.

this was a great video, well done Vice. This is important for the people in todays social media era where it's easy to get caught up in comparisons and body image issues. I hope all teens and young adults interested in the gym find this video and and stay informed.

I would love to see a deep dive into women using steroids for competitions and social media. I think it’s more common than people realise.

@ChardeeMacdennis339

5 ай бұрын

I would like to see this as well!

@JinxMarie1985

19 күн бұрын

For sure it woukd be interesting to see

I’ve been training consistently since my teens, I’m 36 now. Still making great progress albeit slowly and enjoying gym as much as ever. I’ve seen so many steroid users come and go. Massive peaks and troughs, psychological issues and training inconsistency based on cycles. Im yet to meet a lifetime natural that regrets not taking gear, but you’ll find plenty of washed up steroid users that regret it.

@mrgeek434

7 ай бұрын

I thought you were like 28, Ross. Clearly no steroid-related ageing going on here, ha!

@Leo-pg6lt

7 ай бұрын

I’m 37 my older workout buddies definitely have me feeling like Dewey cocks when they talk about using test

@nf7283

7 ай бұрын

jesus, you look tiny, even for a natural

@25johnlowe

7 ай бұрын

In the same boat, I am 35, trained since 18 and always been natural. Still learning and making as you say progress albeit it slow. Never regretted not using. Still get comments complementing physique here and there. There really is no need, and especially no need for teenagers to be doing as such. All the best with your training.

@BagoGarde

7 ай бұрын

well said

I think what a lot of guys don't realise too is that most women don't actually want you to look like a roided up freak. It might get you a "shag" when you're down "beefa" but that will also get you the clap. Train natural, do it for fun, do it for health, and spend the rest of your time improving your life and the lives of those around you.

@futuristic.handgun

7 ай бұрын

💯

@thedownwardmachine

7 ай бұрын

Imagine putting as much effort into becoming an awesome, socially well adjusted person, and you can do far better with the ladies

@JTMGJTMG

7 ай бұрын

Well put :)

@zydian_

7 ай бұрын

sqme goes for anorexia

@IAMNationX

7 ай бұрын

​@@zydian_ What a stupid comment

When a dealer says "don't do this damn drug," it should open your eyes. John is the realest one out there.

@TamerEldegwy

4 ай бұрын

And you believed that this is a real dealer ?! 😂😂😂😂

@BlueCourtingBooks

3 ай бұрын

@@TamerEldegwy Exactly. No real dealer is gonna go on a documentary and risk getting locked up to preach some "drugs are bad for you" BS.

@supriyasingh-sd1zl

2 ай бұрын

​@@BlueCourtingBooks🤣🤣🤣🤣

Obi's pieces are mad good. Great and sincere work, as always.

Love how honest those guys were. I really enjoyed this video, but would love to see one about female steroid users some day.

@lokelaufeyson9931

7 ай бұрын

there is a few clips from the old ussr where they talk about the "bearded ladies".. women who grow beard an grow into men from abuse..

@cjboyo

7 ай бұрын

@@lokelaufeyson9931They don’t “turn into men,” their body does masculinize somewhat though

@johndoeyedoe

7 ай бұрын

It's a fukn Trainwreck.

@lokelaufeyson9931

7 ай бұрын

@@cjboyo there is one woman who is a proper man, dont know her name but she abused roids hard when she was young and now you would be scared to see how much of a man she is..

@sarahjeannexd

7 ай бұрын

@@lokelaufeyson9931 There is a natural condition which results in women growing full beards called hirsutism; sometimes but not always from PCOS I don’t know what time period you’re referring to but most well known Russian bearded women were way too far back to have been using steroids was there like a sports scandal or something?

I was in school with Tom. Great guy. Has always been genuine and honest. He was always nice even to us less popular kids. Great documentary bro 👍

@bawseeeee602

6 ай бұрын

lol less popular dork

@EDUARQUITO

3 ай бұрын

Yo po veo por que esta traducido en español, Que empatico es este chico, Gebial!

This is why I support Mike O’Hearn. A proper natural athlete.

@donsmackem2449

6 ай бұрын

lol

@famoushandle

3 ай бұрын

No a part about him natural

@MrStupo

3 ай бұрын

Loool he is full roids 😅😂

@K_j_M

3 ай бұрын

​@@famoushandlehe's full natty. There was never a more natty 6'5 240 shredded behemoth to ever grace the earth with his natty presence.. He's so natty he makes my organic milk cry

@user-bc2bz5xm9p

3 ай бұрын

😂😢

Great video. It’s always great to see the grey area of medicine and what happens outside of big pharmaceutical companies

4:00 I’ve been a heroin addict for 20 years, I finally got on methadone and I was noticing that other patients were getting injections so I asked about it. I didn’t know that opiates lowered your testosterone. Obviously I got my blood checked and I now take weekly injections. Please, please listen to me? Don’t ever take any pills. I only became a addict after being prescribed pain meds without proper warning or education. My mom and I had no idea I would spend the next 20 years fighting a hellish addiction. Stay safe and one love.

@justkeepswimming8892

Ай бұрын

Kratom got me off dope 😂😂😂😂😂

There's no amount of voice changing that can change that geordie accent 😂

@ndvrgnt_hikikomori

7 ай бұрын

Thankfully that isn't the intended purpose of changing their voice... It's to make it harder to identify them by voice, not their accent which could be one of countless people.

@boyzinthewood1

7 ай бұрын

😂

@stuartpollock84

7 ай бұрын

@@ndvrgnt_hikikomori oh wow, really?

@ndvrgnt_hikikomori

7 ай бұрын

@@stuartpollock84 Unsure why you're going on like a sarcy gimp, your joke just wasn't funny lad.

@Sa7biUK

3 ай бұрын

@@stuartpollock84 howay man

Great job!! I hope this reaches those who need to hear it.

That’s why I’m proud to be a lifetime natural weightlifter been training for 20 years consistently.

Top class documentary. This is by far the best reporting I have seen on steroids and it’s such an important one for young men to see. Thank you for putting this out into the world.

@wonsyloves

7 ай бұрын

Nat geo did a really good documentary too "trafficked with mariana van zeller" season 1 episode 4

@HumanGorillaHormone

7 ай бұрын

Except for all the misinformation and MASSIVE exaggerations

@mattb6704

7 ай бұрын

Could have done with out the presenter squealing like a girl with the surgery part, what did he think was going to happen when he went in?

@Marc-Anthony00

7 ай бұрын

@@HumanGorillaHormone exactly!!! this doc is complete garbage. the people in here who are saying these guys are honest are just clueless. these guys are just uneducated on the very subject of AAS!! just absolute misinformation.

@JLUX100

7 ай бұрын

Hahahah clueless clown .

I started working out 17 years ago at the age of 35 due to my somewhat older wife having lost complete and total sexual interest in me. My initial idea was that I would put in 6 months of hard work and end up with a physique like a superhero movie star and she would love me again. I looked on all the bodybuilder websites and bought all the magazine and bought all the supplements and went to work. After 6 months, I definitely felt and looked better than when I started, but I looked nowhere near my goal. Nothing like I thought I would. And she couldn’t have cared less. But I fell in love with the act of lifting weights and I have continued for all these years. I’ve come to realize that those magazine and website workout programs are designed by and for people who use steroids. Steroids help you recover from a workout much faster than you can without them, and recovery is where your muscles grow. So I was doing these 5-7 day very lengthy routines, and I was beating my body to a pulp, giving my muscles no time to recover. Today, if I could train someone or advise them, I would definitely have a completely different plan for them than they will ever see in a magazine. Anyway, great video. Thank you!

@tjeulink

7 ай бұрын

What would you advise for recovery? :)

@bnasty267

7 ай бұрын

Wait, but all those magazines say I can do routines that would take 2+ hours (with 60 second rest intervals), 5 days a week, then I just eat chicken and broccoli to refuel and I'll look like a Greek god. The worst is the celebrities: it would almost be a funny joke if they didn't lie through their teeth like we're all idiots. Yeah, The Rock looks like that at 50 because he hits the gym every morning at 4AM before filming all day...

@joegale9381

7 ай бұрын

Bit rude, but are you still with your wife?

@WhyTheHorseface

7 ай бұрын

@@joegale9381 yes. 30 years of marriage. Sex isn’t everything.

@joegale9381

7 ай бұрын

@@WhyTheHorseface true 👌

thank you for making this. Very informative for young people thinking about starting on this path.

Quite simply. THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO.

Best thing Vice has done in a long time. Well done chaps

@alexchadwick6748

7 ай бұрын

Agreed, this one and the old vid they did on steroids stay some of their best content ever imo.

@bulleit9459

6 ай бұрын

Lame. Lots of disinformation in the video

@AlexOjideagu2

3 ай бұрын

@@bulleit9459 like what?

The drug dealer seems chill af 😂

@Hakushodemon

7 ай бұрын

That guy was such a hypocrite. He’s like “it breaks my heart to sell roids to 18-24 year olds.” No it doesn’t he’s making bank off them.

@atodaso1668

7 ай бұрын

if it wasn't him it will be someone else that cares less@@Hakushodemon

@Hakushodemon

7 ай бұрын

so why pretend like he has any morals or cares about selling drugs to kids. Fake scumbags @@atodaso1668

@jinfin221

7 ай бұрын

@@atodaso1668 is that an excuse? Lol

@atodaso1668

7 ай бұрын

Nope, that's just how it works in the real world @@jinfin221

Very info. Like the old Vice. Keep it up and thanks. It was a very well balanced and honest look at the pros and cons.

Generally haven’t enjoyed Vice as much the last few years but this was a great piece.

I got put on TRT 4 years ago and it changed my life. I had very low testosterone from opiates after a bad motorcycle accident. The effects it have on me are I lost my middle aged spread my mood increased tenfold my sleep got significantly better and I went from needing an electric wheelchair to a normal wheelchair I wheel myself in.

@Jorgen9723

7 ай бұрын

Good for you. does not mean anyone else should do TRT just for the fun of it

@burger116

7 ай бұрын

you are what trt is meant for and i’m glad it helped you. unfortunately people exploiting it when they don’t need it it hurts the reputation a lot

@MeatCatCheesyBlaster

7 ай бұрын

Sounds like a placebo effect

@howey935

7 ай бұрын

@@MeatCatCheesyBlaster definitely not

@TheReaper42069

7 ай бұрын

I’m in the same boat. Need to find a doctor who will help my recovery.

Gynecomastia is very common in people with no steroid history as well

@sexualgladiator

6 ай бұрын

Yes, breast tissue is also common in women and men who are in an oestrogen-dominant state through consuming an unhealthy diet.

@scslre

6 ай бұрын

steroid use only seems to give men tits if they're genetically inclined, yeah. if you're a guy and had tits as a youth, be prepared to have those things grow into giant melons when you hop on roids/don't manage your sides properly.

Great documentary & about time! The mad thing is people are so secretive about it even though it’s so obvious who’s taking it! People talk more openly about how much recreational drugs they take than they do steroids!

Excellent report. People like Tom and David are doing great job by showing the actual damages that the abuse of steroids cause. The UK should definitely test all their bodybuilders and ban every participant that test positive. I wonder how a country with such a strict drug control policy like South Korea manages to get several fitness influencers and outstanding athletes, as seen in the Physical 100 TV show, or maybe they just get their AAS in Thailand, where they are legal. This problem of abuse of AAS has been around since the late 70's between professional athletes, then moving to the bodybuilder community in the early 90's and it seems like it's never going to stop, which is so sad.

Extremely true.... These kids are 16 with no lifting experience and taking steroids.... Unbelievable

@PickleThePig

7 ай бұрын

16 year olds also drink, smoke and take drugs

@Blastoice

7 ай бұрын

​@PickleThePig yeah very fair point! Difficult one isn't it, is extreme steroid use or is extreme drinking worse? I think both in moderation are fine!! I started steroids after doing high end night clubs and not being strong enough to fight with roid heads!

@celestialasmr9624

7 ай бұрын

​@@Blastoicethere's no safe way to rake steroids in the UK though, unless you're sourcing all your materials and making it yourself

@SenpaiTorpidDOW

6 ай бұрын

Wouldn't an alternative have been martial arts? I do doors now and am natty but I trained MMA and kickboxing for a good 5years in my early adulthood, no problem with the roid heads. Though I gotta stay heavy and not lean to be fair. @@Blastoice

John is a bigger man (pun not intended) than any roid user I've seen, for coming on Vice and being so honest and open about anything. Respect sir 👍

I remember several years ago heroin addiction destroyed my life, I suffered from severe depression and a mental disorder until I was recommended to psilocybin mushroom treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly I'm 8 years clean now. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms.

@LeonardoAndrade-js2vo

4 ай бұрын

To be honest, mushrooms are one of the most amazing things on the planet and it is natural, they serve in many ways not only for mental related issues.

@AnteroKinnunen

4 ай бұрын

Can you help me with a reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. It is very hard to get a reliable source here in New Zealand. Really need!

@AgustinNavia-cg3rg

4 ай бұрын

Yes, Sporeville. I had the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD, and addiction... Mushrooms definitely made a huge difference to why I'm clean today.

@JohannaKoch-dh7vt

4 ай бұрын

I wish they were readily available in my place. Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He's 59 & has many mental health issues plus probably CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac. He's constantly talking about killing someone. He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD knows if it is common for an obsession with violence.

@AnteroKinnunen

4 ай бұрын

Is he on Instagram?

John is a good man. I've had a few dealers like him in my day, people that care. One became my best friend, (rip Steve) it meant a lot to me to see someone actually care about the addict they're supplying. You don't have to, you can make more money not caring but it shows real strength of character. You're still a drug dealer but in my experience they're usually supporting their own habit

@Flashyfinancier

7 ай бұрын

I feel you

@joshuastefanick4806

7 ай бұрын

His 💩 is bunk. Making it in his kitchen and that everyone in that video that was on stage looked like 💩. If he was the one making Test 400 he don’t know what he is doing 😅😅😅😅😅

@_7.8.6

7 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂 I’m sure his heart bleeds

@HumanGorillaHormone

7 ай бұрын

He's selling steroids.... Which makes him a drug dealer on paper but steroids will never tear a family apart. You'll never see anyone steal their grammas tv to buy testosterone. Keep in mind, steroids were legal until the 90s..and 90% of the steroids we use were or still are approved for human therapeutic use. With billions of dollars of testing and trials deemed then to be SAFE and effective. But for some reason the public believes steroids are a death sentence.

@SteveEdwards-kh5hg

7 ай бұрын

Are u from New Zealand

It’s terrifying how normalised steroid use is in the UK I remember at school and university it was just known that some of the guys in our year group always at the gym were taking them!

@HumanGorillaHormone

7 ай бұрын

It's only terrifying if you believe that steroids will kill you. Yet, you said it yourself how mainstream they are yet... No bodies.

@JLUX100

7 ай бұрын

LMFAO" every time you use this stuff you're risking your life" HAHAHAHA yet noone has ever overdosed and died from aas . And OVER 98% OF AAS USERS LIVE FULL HEALTHY LIVES. HAHAHAHA alcohol kills over 4 million people per year. Anabolic Androgenic Steroids have NEVER KILLED 4 MILLION EVER, IN OVER 70 YEARS! This is hilariously comical fear-porn from actors that have zero clue what they're talking about. Only absolute noobs and morons that know nothing about aas believe the shot these people are saying.

@christoph8630

6 ай бұрын

Seems like im living in another world, have never heard anyone admitting use or offering me something.

@scslre

6 ай бұрын

@@christoph8630 self-selection/confirmation bias, thing.

@StaaaaNzHD

6 ай бұрын

​@@scslrefor who him/ the other guy

Only thing wrong with this documentary is that it wasn't longer. Great work

@UnknownUser-fg3fs

6 ай бұрын

you natty?

Absoultely fantastic video, great work

I don’t understand criticism of Vice when they report on people who transit the fringes of society (drug users, sex workers, etc). It’s good, informative reporting very few people are doing. “There is a war in-“ ok, good, you seem well informed about it, so what’s the problem..?

@LaioAroca

7 ай бұрын

what color is your buggati?

@mindlesssheep9116

7 ай бұрын

@@LaioAroca What color's your cell?

@juulwhiskers4881

7 ай бұрын

​@@LaioAroca😂

@DMWBN3

7 ай бұрын

Vice started out edgy & went to North Korea, gun markets & Afghan poppy fields. Now it’s about the letter brigade & west every other msm is churning out.

@JohnWall-lj1mx

7 ай бұрын

Nobody cares about porn stars giving sex tips dude we want more genuinely interesting content like this and more documentaries

I see it simply as many people with huge insecurities. It's just sad.

@LaioAroca

7 ай бұрын

FR

@menna7927

7 ай бұрын

They will die young.

@Shinkajo

7 ай бұрын

It's no coincidence with the rise of social media, roid usage is at its peak. People just can't stop comparing themselves with others. But also sadly, there is a lot of money, attention and fame in this game for those who succeed.

@user-sk9sp7pe4y

7 ай бұрын

Daddy issues

@celestialasmr9624

7 ай бұрын

​@@Shinkajoonly a rare few find success, and at what cost to their long term health?

Que persona tan noble al ser tan honesto con temas tan delicados.

Good job on Thomas the first guy on recognizing his issues and making the right changes to continue life in a healthier manner and life. Also the guy making PEDs I'm his kitchen wtf , so disturbing

I used to juice and wanted to be a bodybuilder. I almost had a heart attack at the age of 21 as it exacerbated preexisting health problems. Liver was in bad shape too. Joints were always sore. Was not worth it at all, no point unless maybe you're very competitive at whatever sport you participate in and need to juice like everyone else, but for general health and well-being, avoid the juice.

@ermesscaccabrozzi6814

3 ай бұрын

22yo and already that amount of issues?

I’m glad you refer to steroid use as addiction because too many people try to deny that steroids are drugs just like crack or heroine. Steroid users are drug addicts.

@applejuice3855

7 ай бұрын

More like sober addict with a devil hiding behind a smiling mask waiting for another victim to fall

@leigh7507

7 ай бұрын

But its not a physical dependence like heroin or booze.

@joshuastefanick4806

7 ай бұрын

@@leigh7507it’s mental which is worse

@murkstalinskitm5334

7 ай бұрын

This is not true. AAS are not an addictive substance like opiods or cocaine that cause physical dependency, they are mental.

@eustab.anas-mann9510

7 ай бұрын

​@@murkstalinskitm5334Cocaine does *not* cause physical dependency.

this is one of the most informative video about steroids. Thank you so much

Gymshark, alphalete, etc, should hold an awareness conference. Where their athletes talk about the toll spotlight has on their mental health and the pressure to keep their physique, the urge to taking supplements and even open up about supplement use. Obviously not everyone can speak about using these supplements because they are illegal, but it would be fantastic campaign.

@GRumpyonekinobi

3 ай бұрын

@roblipsett

@blackpalacemusic

2 ай бұрын

The mental part is the most serious part to me. I've seen people change!

Body dysmorphia is heartbreaking 😢

@user-sk9sp7pe4y

7 ай бұрын

It's a real thing that's for sure.

@amandaford2741

5 ай бұрын

Bodybuilding does that to you, deal with it everyday.

Nice video, really like the honesty of all involved and yet not slandering the users but showing that a dysmorphed image has led them down that dark path.

What a great job done on this video! Really appreciate all the performers, especially the kitchen-lab guy, his honesty and his trying to keep the quality (purity) as high as possible. Thank you. :-) Funny how some of steroid-users in this video (but not only for sure) looks like they are average gym enjoyer dads, a little sad.

I'm actually pretty thankful, that I got introduced to different "party" drugs at a young age. It tought me, that all drugs work the same. They simulate something good and you pay for it with your physical/mental helath. The effects however wear of but the damage is permanent. Kept me away from ever taking roids. Also not taking other stuff anymore :)

Huge respect to them for raising awareness!

@laurapalmerTDGE

7 ай бұрын

Absolutely. Also social media is so misleading! I'm 41 and it all started with a Flex magazine, going to the gym and find the balance. Took me one year to find the right direction and to get the wanted V-shape, I was and still am in a good symmetric shape. Cardio plus weight and variations. Nespresso and Starbucks and a balanced diet. My Belgian fries baked in fat and ketchup or pickles? Every week 😊.

@nas8326

7 ай бұрын

They want you on roids

Thanks Vice for this; BodyBuilding is entering a new era with the online fitness space growing an actual community and becoming an entertainment category on social media platforms; The extreme conditions that female and male bodybuilders put their bodies under is becoming the new norm, the evidence is there if you research the amount of fitness channels by novices being opened on youtube regularly. This just prove my idea that social media is going to drive a new modern craze like any other new fad or trend that we have seen in the past. This is a very big problem, women are going for the ripped look now and the influencers are not sharing the effects of doing so wether by steroid or not. To summarize, the fitness space is becoming a circus, the new trend is now TRT, ppl that do not need TRT are taking it. Low doses are becoming as popular as a common sport supplement.

Fair play to this lad speaking so openly and warning youngsters of the dangers. Wish him the best.

@grumbazor

3 ай бұрын

Barbie is shamed as it promotes an unrealstic body idol. And then there is he man....

Nicely done Vice! As a 20 year old male in the gym scene I completely subscribe to the format of this video. Present the horror stories along with the success stories and leaving the decision up to the potential user of the drug. Again, nicely done

@tomasciganpal7897

6 ай бұрын

As a 20 year old male who uses gear I do not give a single f

@josereyes-nl6ts

5 ай бұрын

@@tomasciganpal7897 be careful the day u will want to have kids u will regret it

Keep it natural Bros!

@KJ_1611

7 ай бұрын

Just say "Nahi Chahiye Ji" and move on.

@tehcod6157

7 ай бұрын

no

@jinfin221

7 ай бұрын

@@KJ_1611 bruh I was just about to comment this lmao

@emrydelva2184

5 ай бұрын

There's nothing wrong with creatine!

@pavlegrebenarevic382

3 ай бұрын

so keep it small?

The wonderful world of social media and influencers.

@unsilencednation6036

7 ай бұрын

steroids have been a huge thing before social media

@lokelaufeyson9931

7 ай бұрын

if you can cheat you cheat, if you can hide it you will cheat absolutely. Until the day when you cant hide and then its "legit" according to yourself and you ignore the risk.

@androwaydie4081

7 ай бұрын

@@lokelaufeyson9931 Reality checks always prevail, Nature couldn't care less about lies.

@lokelaufeyson9931

7 ай бұрын

@@androwaydie4081 the worst part with roids is that its easy to become a time bomb after a few years and then you are screwed O.o but it can also be a self cleaning feature of nature. They cant get their own kiddies after a while, its too wack out of balance

@davidterrell1242

7 ай бұрын

Right, that's why Arnold Schwarzenegger and other bodybuilders in his day took roids.

Just a note with gynecomastia: they are due to breast glandular tissue growing from Estrogen stimulation. Some male teenagers have them due to hormonal imbalances during puberty and this can resolve spontaneously but they can also have this surgery done to relieve their embarrassment. Another I have observed are obese individuals who slimmed down. Peripheral fat tissue also increases estrogen and even after they slim down, they find that their chest looks puffy around the nipples nonetheless.

this was a GREAT educational video! Very engaging.

that gyno doktor is happy he is getting crazy profits of those bodybuilders

The main issue here is the huge, huge influx of fitness influencers and the companies that promote them. The vast majority of these influencers, whether you believe it or not, are on gear, but they're presented to you as though they're natural. Obviously, people who've been in the community know what they're looking for, but young guys just starting out in the gym are often naive enough to believe that these people are natural, and that they can look like Simeon Panda naturally, then when they don't they turn to gear. This is no different than fashion mags photoshopping women to have tiny waists and no cellulite and then sticking them on the front of the mag and telling women that they too can/should like this with no help.

@RazorRamonMachismo

7 ай бұрын

Mike o Hearn is the best natty vegan cross fitter Ever he even has his hair on his head

@stevenwhitehouse7731

7 ай бұрын

@@RazorRamonMachismo Just duck eggs bro

Thank you for doing this, and I hope that the upcoming generation understands the health risks that come with using steroids. With proper training, sleep, nutrition, and, above all, CONSISTENCY, they can achieve the physique that many steroid users wish for.

@enhancedgiulio7051

5 ай бұрын

In about 8-10yrs maybe as a natty? Also, every single one of those health risks can be completely prevented on roids.

@zacharycollierAW-PL

5 ай бұрын

@@enhancedgiulio7051 No matter how much blood work you do, if you alter your hormonal profile there will be long term consequences. How many people who take steroids or sell them need to say "DON'T TAKE THESE" before you get the hint? The natural path is far better, because you can look about as good as most of the enhanced people in this video given years of consistency, and you won't have to sacrifice your lifespan to do it.

This is sad and has worsened in the lasy few years. Thanx SM and gym-bro influencers

This is happening in India also. In my local gym i see trainers openly selling tren and deca.

I think this might be a silent epidemic everywhere. I've seen guys at parties saying they need calf implants to match their body. (Already looks ripped and fit enough for any girl) I said No Way you look perfect already! I got lightly shamed for saying that... "its his body (etc)."

Muchas Gracias por la difusión sobre el consumo.

Much respect to dan seem like a solid dude the way to spoke on his steroid use 💯

I had been thinking about peds solely because I wanted to maybe one day step on stage and test that out but this has completely sold me on never taking them. IDC how long it takes me to grow, the risks are just too high. All this has got me thinking about the young fitness guys who are on it like Sam Sulek

@whywhywhy9659

7 ай бұрын

Sam Sulek is a walking warning, guy is so young but his face looks so haggered, sad

@JLUX100

7 ай бұрын

​@@whywhywhy9659y0ure a clueless m0r0n. Hahaha cope

@JLUX100

7 ай бұрын

What risks? Lmfao ypu do dangerous things and use more risky drugs daily!! Tylenol kills more than aas 😂😂 lmfao they're bioidentical hormones we were born with.

@christoph8630

6 ай бұрын

tbf his face looked a bit like that before he started training @@whywhywhy9659

@scslre

6 ай бұрын

if this video has fully convinced you one way or the other, you are someone who should never EVER be anywhere near peds.

Great documentary and hats off to those providing the honesty within it. I’m now 36 and started training at around 21-22. In hindsight I was naive as to what was achievable natural, but as I have gotten older and more experienced (and stayed natural), I have realised two things: 1. I realise now that my physique is something pretty damn good for no juicey (and frankly would hold its own against a lot of the smaller roid users), and B. I understand even less why anyone would just hop on gear so early on. That said, I also said no to class A drugs i nights out even when peers saw it as normal. Keep lifting drug free people, you’ll be fit, healthy, feel good and you will achieve a great physique if you keep chipping away and believing in yourself. 💪🏽

@xv9021

6 ай бұрын

What about lifting naturally but once a month you take wild party drugs XD

RIP vice, and congrats on the big bonuses to management ;)

Thanks for exposing this 👍

UK folks are very Friendly. Especially the Drug dealer. Great program

I really loved watching this. I only wished that somebody would have also talked about SARMs, which are often considered pretty safe to take compared to steroids. Surely the potential side effects are not as dramatic as stuff like Tren, but the impact on your body is still massive. Messing up your hormonal balance will definitely cause you problems, unless you are already born with an imbalance that needs to be fixed. I am a skinny guy that always struggled in putting on muscle mass, despite notable dedication in training and diet. I am not gonna lie, I have been tempted many times by taking something, because I was always watching these shredded guys in the gym looking so good. Then I realized that what makes me feel good is to keep myself as healthy as possible. Starting to combine cardio with weight lifting brought me to a condition of stamina and endurance that I never had before. I went from running 1km to my first 20km in a few months. My sexual and mental health became as good as I could wish. Would I ever compromise all of that for bigger muscles? Never.

@Seqhael

7 ай бұрын

Sarms are just as bad as steroids lol, they’ll still shut you down, they’re still toxic for your organs. Don’t kid yourself lol

@JLUX100

7 ай бұрын

Uhm steroids are extremely safe and much safer than sarms which are very untested on humans and we don't really know the long term effects of them on the body like we do with aas and we know how to mitigate potential side effects and what to expect . We dont with sarms. Although they are weaker and less effective than aas they are way less studied and understood. Aas is not near as dangerous as people believe. They are bioidentical hormones we were born with .... 😂 and after 30-35 aas is actually good for you In many cases. Low testosterone and declining test is not healthy.

@JLUX100

7 ай бұрын

You couldn't put on weigh cause you DIDNT EAT enough. You haven't learnt enough of the athletic sciences and health sciences to figure it out lol all this time. There is no such thing as a hard gainer. Only people that can't eat enough . And don't know how to properly train, sleep and build muscle. Learn your nutrition and supplementation.

@marcopannone1325

7 ай бұрын

@@JLUX100 Sorry to disappoint but I do believe I know biology and science pretty well having a PhD in Molecular Biology. I have spent also lots of my free time learning about nutrition and supplementation, implementing and experimenting a lot of different regimens on myself. Last winter I pushed myself to eat 3200kcal a day, with high protein intake and whole food sources, and that much calories is a lot for somebody like me. I ended up gaining excessive body fat, my sleep quality worsened, my libido decreased. In the summertime, when I went down to 2200kcal a day, I felt better than ever. I was lean again and I liked myself way more. People who believe "you should eat more to get bigger" have no clues what genetics and metabolism are. Going against your own genetics will just lead you to get sick in the long term.

@JLUX100

7 ай бұрын

@@marcopannone1325 @marcopannone1325 lmfao because you don't have a clue what you're doing. If you did you wouldn't have gotten fat by adding 1000kcal extra per day for a bulk 😂😂😂 lmfao and what was your protein intake daily and carb intake? Ypu should have been slowly increasing your caloric surplus in 100kcal increments every few weeks or per month. 😂😂 I love how you use such a shallow anecdotal example as if it's proof to support your claims. And what else did you do have you been talking your blood glucose and what ate your hormone levels at ? All of this factors in to your sleep and how you feel. Lmfao not how muxh you eat. How often were you eating ? Eating two massive meals doesn't do the same thing to your metabolism that eating 5-7 times per day does. Eat every 3-4 to hours and your metabolism will be muxh faster and help ypu process and Utilize that extra food intake. Ypu have no clue and you've showed it with this reply about metabolisms, nutrition and supplementation or bodybuilding in general. Again, you cant gain muscle cause you don't k ow what you're doing therefore can't est enough of the nutrition you need consistently. Y0u dont understand biochemistry, kinesiology, nutrition and supplementation, endocrinology or pharmacology. LOL I love you trying to tell someone that's an ex national athlete rugby player and a bodybuilder of 14 years that he doesn't know. I've been learning this stuff and APPLYING it for more than twice the length you went to school. I eat 3600kcal a day when bulking and I'm not fat. Some bodybuilders eat 7, 8k per day and domt get fat. Everyone's body is slightly different and everyone's metabolism is ever changing . You have to build up your Metabolism. Not destroy it and your endocrine system. This leads to feeling and looking like garbage

I saw the thumbnail and was like oh boy another documentary of BS... this might be the BEST i have ever seen covering the topic. Super informational, great interviews and entertaining. Great job 🎉

Exelente video ❤ súper honesto y transparente

Its so sad what people go through to change the shell we are born into. Its a short trip in this life and by the end father time always has thr upper hand. Having multiple brain surgeries in my mid 20s opend up my eyes how precious life is. Start the work on the inside, thats what's sustainable. Get to know yourself. Sit with yourself. Its the hardest but most rewarding action in life.

@incars1000

7 ай бұрын

without meaning to take away the meaning of your point, body dysmorphia is a very real thing that hormone replacement and sometimes surgery can help with for some people

@NorthWestPvPlolrektnoob

7 ай бұрын

@@incars1000 surgery and hormone treatment should only be used in the most extreme of cases.

@Mcfunface

7 ай бұрын

Can't change your height with it though, unless you're taking HGH at age 12 😅

@horsepaste817

7 ай бұрын

I agree. But at the same time, seeking the approval of others is a normal part of being human and is evolutionarily adaptive.

@scslre

6 ай бұрын

@@NorthWestPvPlolrektnoob thanks, doctor.

No man should want to be like another, walk your own path, don’t be a follower or another man’s sidekick.!Be your own man!!!

@leigh7507

7 ай бұрын

No such thing. You're a produce of culture and society. Do something truly unique and they will crucify you

@coreybellsr2848

7 ай бұрын

@@leigh7507 😂

@coreybellsr2848

7 ай бұрын

Sorriest and weakest statement I’ve ever read in my life😆. Useless😭

Very good content. Must watch for any serious person thinking about steroids

I’m 33. Said it to my cousin over 10 year ago who started with his bro and dad. Same age. Lost his hair and all sorts of problems. Aged over night. I just played football all my life so was healthy. I don’t look or feel 33. Even after a broke spine and pelvis in a crash

Great documentary highlighting a growing problem amongst men. Wish it was an hour long.

this is bigger than people think. Thank you vice

Interesting that they didn’t talk much about hormone replacement TRT, which I think is probably more safer option to go down that route. I’d like to see a video talking more on TRT and taking the minimum amount per week and where is it sourced from? That guy who was in that home-made lab be interested in what type of steroids is making there is so many different compounds.

I've had 3 friends have heart attacks from roids, all in their 20s. One didn't make it. More than half the people training in the gym are taking HGH and roids, along with many othher things.

@bigt9374

7 ай бұрын

Doubt its steroids . Probably more like clen, T3, or pre workouts . Steroids don't work acutely like that . Heart disease takes years to happen

@-TK-

7 ай бұрын

When I first started working out I thought the 50% number being thrown around was bullshit. Some time passed since then a d I've learned that it's absolutely real and in some gyms its much higher than 50%.

@TheTwoFingeredBulldog

7 ай бұрын

@-TK- No doubt there are gyms with 90% using, but in the gym we use there are plenty of women and older folk that use the gym also. Under 35s males, more than half easily.

@leigh7507

7 ай бұрын

shout out to the well built nattys

@blacklyfe5543

7 ай бұрын

Because they abused it or didn't know what compound to take

I remember reading about a study which had 4 control groups, 1 group trained with steroids, 1 trained without steroids, 1 group didn't do any training but were on steroids and the last group didn't train or didn't take any steroids. The people who took steroids and didn't train gained more muscle mass than the naturals who trained. It's probably insanely hard to give up steroids once you see the gains you can make in a short amount of time.

@user-qk8yk7km1n

7 ай бұрын

It can be done, but it’s not fun. I’d liken it to having nights out being the only one not drinking or going back to having sex with a condom etc etc Steroids make hard work feel good.

@celestialasmr9624

7 ай бұрын

​@@user-qk8yk7km1nuntil you can't work out hard anymore because your heart/liver/kidneys/joints are fuxked

@alubchicken

7 ай бұрын

that study was hilarious, but the results didn't account for gain in non-contractile tissue or mass, like fat or water weight. Taking PEDs without training doesn't help you get any muscle mass.

@jeremiahromagnoli7389

7 ай бұрын

​@@alubchickenyeah, correct it was gains in lean body mass which is everything except fat. And we know that steroids dramatically increase water retention, blood volume, and glycogen stores

@jeremiahromagnoli7389

7 ай бұрын

I would say true muscle gain is likely equivocal between sedentary roiders and natural trainers

appreciates Toms honesty

Hey Doc I've become a bit of an Egghead in the last couple years and feeling and looking alot better, this was an Eggscellent video with some Eggsciting new info.

as an American female who has struggled with anorexia, bulimia and body dysmorphia, i 100% relate to this story

@Frezri69

7 ай бұрын

Why the need to tell that you are American?

@sarahjeannexd

7 ай бұрын

@@Frezri69it’s just to state the culture here is similar, I don’t think she meant much by it

@thlee3

7 ай бұрын

its also about mood. T makes you feel like a warrior. thats just as addictive as the physical

@Hulliepap

7 ай бұрын

I hope you are doing good and won this battle ❤️

@matthew3136

7 ай бұрын

Bullying is rampant in schools. And everywhere else it seems.

My main reason for working out is my mental health. Staying physically active is one of the best things you can do to counteract depression. I'm so glad I've never and will never consider steroids because of a fixation on a physical goal I'm trying to reach. I've dealt with enough substance abuse already, I don't need another one. Even if I don't see any progress for months, knowing that every day I go to the gym makes me feel better is all I need.

@matthewsmith6051

7 ай бұрын

This is a great post. Thank you for sharing. I'm 50 and also lift weights to clear my head. Nothing else matters when I'm 'in the zone' so to speak

@c2225

7 ай бұрын

Yeah any drug is better than roids

@scslre

6 ай бұрын

@@c2225 nonsense.

@BlueCourtingBooks

3 ай бұрын

@@c2225 Included crack and heroin?

@c2225

3 ай бұрын

@@BlueCourtingBooks yes

Very nice docu !! Great job

Top content lads 👍

The fitness industry is more about looks than health

Relatable. I am an amateur gymnast, and extremely proud in my body and my looks. Regardless, the number of times I've spoken with people and asked for what I use, and after that if I want to get something to use, it's astounding. I've trained for around 6 years now, and progressed slowly and methodically to the state i am now. I am relatively small, never the biggest in the room. Regardless, I am never taking anything to get bigger, my health is not worth a momentary ego boost and an increased body dismorphia.

I wish they would have discussed the impact on the heart and steroid as a leading cause to heart attacks/failure in young people WAY more than the 4 second blip at the end.

yooo very interesting vid, thanks for speadig awareness of this issue, my only concern was the lack of mask in the operation room, maybe should have worn it idk im not a doctor

I’ve been in medicine for awhile… once had a bodybuilder who tore his quads… they just rolled up his leg into a giant meatball looking thing in his groin…. It looked so painful and I heard later he was in hospital for awhile and he went through horrible withdrawals from the stuff he was on… to this day i don’t know what happened to him but I hope he’s okay

@CRCfail

7 ай бұрын

Withdrawals from steroids, k 🤣😂🙃😆

@bluesk8crew

7 ай бұрын

​@CRCfail absolutely if you blast gear all year around for years and stop your gunna feel pretty fucked up lol

@xArsVivendi

7 ай бұрын

what do you think happensm when you quit cold turkey? you don't produce any testosterone anymore, because injecting testosterone (or most other androgenic hormones) surpresses your natural testosterone production.@@CRCfail

@ellemmenn2930

4 ай бұрын

@@CRCfail just google anabolic / catabolic steroid withdrawal

I work as a doctor in a steroid counseling and monitoring clinic called the Android Health Clinic in the Netherlands. It's actually the first and only clinic in the country, that focuses on (ex) steroid users or people who consider using them. It is wonderful to be able to help so many people that otherwise have no reliable source of information, monitoring or treatment of side effects. One should look beyond the stigma's, especially in the medical field!

@CraftingCake

7 ай бұрын

Do you actually recommend the use of steroids for anyone who is not a pro body builder or are you all about harm reduction?

@gardenguster5271

5 ай бұрын

​@@CraftingCakeunless you had a tramatic injury or have some sort of condition why else would you need steroids if you arent a bodybuilder.... theres literally no bennifit otherwise

@chilenapromedioRU

4 ай бұрын

​@@gardenguster5271 Testosterone cypionate, enanthate and undecanoate are used by women who struggle with sex body dysmorphia, or "gender dysphoria". Also by women who wants to increase their muscular mass, for us it's incredibly difficult to do it because biology is against it. I will happily use it for a while to increase muscle mass and energy, but I would never risk the chance to become bald or to get hirsutism again. I had to take certain contraception pills for so long (still do) that helped me recover from conditions inherited from my father's side (funny thing is I was the one with hirsutism, my brother didn't have a vellus before puberty) and acne, but that eventually caused me lipedema. Oh the hormonal horrors.

It’s difficult not to want to try Roids. As much as people say “don’t compare yourself”, we all do compare ourselves to others in the gym. It’s videos like this thay reinstate the risks that help remind me to stay natty

This video is pure gold

i have been going to the gym 4 years now and its shocking the amount of people you see who hop, go from being chubby to jacked in 6 months and then you never see again. really needs to better education on the damage and risks behind them. This social media world we live in leaves kids feeling like they have no choice.

@K_j_M

3 ай бұрын

They probably find a better gym to go to where people aren't looking at them and judging them eh...