The ending of this movie is incredible. One of the best scenes in Star Wars history involving Vader

@sightsofscifireviews370

6 жыл бұрын

Brings everything that was special about the original 3 films and gives them a modern make over essentially without reducing it to pure regurgitation. Its story and characters is first and most importantly they are original, while its visuals saturate it with added depth. The force awakens suffers from using its nostalgic art direction and plot as a creative and narrative crutch which will severely age it as times goes on. While rogue one uses the universe as a whole in star wars as a setting and environment for new characters that are explored in interesting ways.

@stinkystealthysloth

4 жыл бұрын

Was going to comment the same thing haha

@leew1598

3 жыл бұрын

The Vader scene though doesn't really fit with the New Hope Vader. He's like a war machine in that scene.

The last sequence made me feel like an 8 year old boy again, the age I was when my father took me to see the first Star Wars, it was true a true Hollywood magic moment *spoiler* it was good to see her again.

I loved the scene near the end on the beach with the tearful embrace. It reminded me of 'Melancholia'.

Being old enough to have watched the original trilogy in the cinema as a child, Rogue One is the prequel that as an adult I had alway hoped for. Makes me want to watch a New Hope at the cinema again. Personally, I was a little surprised at the number of very young children that were at the showing that I went to. I have noticed this before with 12A certificate films and thing it is time for a rethink.

3:04 "It manages to develop characters in a way that is engaging and funny". Couldn't disagree more. That was the big let-down of the film for me. Despite good acting it was full of flat characters with hardly a genuine relationship to speak of, who 'developed' via unnatural expositional speeches at bizarre moments. Jyn's main emotional relationship was with her father and the peak interaction of that, after the simple but effective opening and discounting the cringeworthy and forced 'dying in her arms' scene, was her watching him rabbit on in an endless horribly written hologram lecture. "I have important news, but first let me describe my emotional state over the last decades, just in case this happens to get to the right person." This is as engaging as someone reading a letter. Cassian was supposed to be potentially untrustworthy and intriguing because of it. How did that play out? He went to shoot Jyn's dad and didn't, with zero personal stake in that decision, then had a bizarrely unnatural argument about the thing he didn't even do with Jyn. He then ultimately signed up with her, making another weird back-story explaining speech on behalf of the assembled seasoned rebels (who for some reason are then happy to listen to a motivational speech from Jyn, who is pretty much some kid who just turned up in their lives.) They might as well have included an opening crawl with little character biogs for all the humanity there was in their development and character revelations. And these were the 'rounded' characters... Seriously, one of the main characters was just a guy with a machine gun blaster thing. That was his character. "I have a machine gun and hang around with that other guy for unknown reasons." If anyone else in the film (or whole series) had a machine gun too (and why don't they when they are so effective?!) he would have nothing to his character at all!

This is my favourite Star Wars film (bearing in mind I came to the whole franchise very late and binged the first six in episode order which I gather isn't necessarily the best way to do that). It doesn't have the distractingly blatant logic problems that can sorta ruin the other modern ones (depending how generous you're being on a given watch-through), it's exciting, the pacing's excellent, and the characters refreshingly reminded me that relatable flaws are a thing. This is the one that made me get why people are so into Star Wars.

Absolutely loved everything about it. The overall tone felt surprisingly mature and well thought out. The battle scenes were really gripping. I loved the cast. I thought Felicity Jones was great! She looked like a warrior rather than just a dose of eye candy. All the new characters were likeable. I was engrossed for every scene. Twelve year old me would have been dazzled.

Great review. Saw it last night, loved the final act.

"I'm a big fan" I don't really need to hear more from you. But I will.

@tiffanypersaud3518

4 жыл бұрын

PauLtus B, IKR.

Saw Felicity Jones in this and the Hawking movie only a few days apart and did not recognise it was the same actress until weeks later. That is damn impressive.

Considering this is a 'blockbuster' it's a stunning movie. Suspect that this will be viewed as the best Star Wars movie in a decades time.

@CBU-oq1lu

7 жыл бұрын

hahahaha, oke. hahahaha!

@nosuchthing8

7 жыл бұрын

R P no, lol

Fantastic film. Best since Empire Strikes Back.

@davequinn8801

Жыл бұрын

Wrong, best since ROTS

Not many films of late have made me feel like standing up and clapping at the end but this one did Wow indeed

Very Michael Chekov with Felicity finding the psychological gesture and centre of the character. I was wary she might be a 'plucky girl', which one trailer implied, but her performance was fantastic with appropriate gravitas.

Is it just me or Simon looks like Jeremy Renner's older brother?

@15luisrivas

7 жыл бұрын

Maybe I AM! or maybe I'm not, we'll never know... (I'm not)

I follow a lot of reviewers with diverse opinions, and no film has shown that more than Rogue One; and in a surprising way. Those I'd expect to love it were underwhelmed (one downright devastated), and others I'd expect to be more critical have actually found far more to love. Because of the way this film is put together, and its story is told, it lives and dies by its characters: those who were put off by the thinness of their backstories, or found them dull or one-note, seem to have been bored by the film as a whole, while others (like me) who could look past the admittedly thin back-stories, and could engage with the characters through the actors' performances (which I personally found universally fantastic (Donnie Yen especially)) loved the film to a near-Empire-Strikes-Back degree. The opening act is rushed, every character could have done with more fleshing out (I feel like this would have made a better mini-series than a film), and that first Darth Vader scene was terrible, but I love the cast, I love the story, the action was phenomenal and the climax had me physically shaking. I thought this was a tremendous film.

I've only seen it once, and it's a bit early yet, but the more and more I reflect on it, the more and more I prefer it to TFA. With the exception of maybe the Kylo/Han scene, the choices in it were bolder than in TFA. I think the series can afford to ditch some of the 'fun-romp' cheese with which the main films in a way protect themselves. This is evidence of that.

didn't see the Ripley similarity at all. Not one bit.

@LeeSmilex

7 жыл бұрын

that's because the women (or characters in general) in the new movies don't need the growth or training the maIe's did in the Iucas star wars films. not because they are made by 'femi-nazi's etc... but because people who create these films are Iazy and by now have guessed the audience wiII swallow anything they put out.

@LeeSmilex

7 жыл бұрын

expressrobkill i don't think it takes skills to be sent to prison so much as poverty and an attitude (which, i concede, was attempted) - to stay out of prison needs far more skill! ;-)

@TheMijman

4 жыл бұрын

People interpret films differently

@IamChrisL712

4 жыл бұрын

I love Rogue One and Jyn as well but Ripley is on another plane as far as character depth and development. Please don't interpret that as a bringdown of Jyn or Felicity Jones because I really enjoyed the movie.

@TheMijman

4 жыл бұрын

@@IamChrisL712 well Ripley has appeared in 4 movies, 2 of which were based solely around her. I'd be amazed if Jyn had as much development in like 1/16th of the screentime...

the first half is a bit slow, but as soon as the hologram of Jyn Erso's father comes on it picks up and the end is amazing

I want to be in a Star Wars film. That would make my career.

@LeeSmilex

7 жыл бұрын

of course it would. i would prefer that u had said your Iife tbh....

@ABonafideSkeleton

7 жыл бұрын

I would do anything to be in Star Wars film, even if I end up playing a Storm Trooper or doing a little piece of dialogue as a droid or something. Just so I have the opportunity to say 'that's me right there' or 'that's me doing the voice there' when I watch it with friends and family.

@keysersoze3427

7 жыл бұрын

I've always wanted to be one of the pilot's shouting something like "There's too many of them!"

Very positive review, that's great. I'm seeing it tonight :D

@foghornfilms

7 жыл бұрын

Don't believe the hype...

@sleepyazathoth5238

7 жыл бұрын

fitzchivalry100 For me TFA was a dissapointment.

@foghornfilms

7 жыл бұрын

Basically Rogue one has more in common with Battlestar Galactica the tv series with regards to its tone.

@MagicAccent

7 жыл бұрын

foghornfilms yes exactly ehat I thought. Which is great, because the Battlestar Galactica reimagining was some fine science fiction!

@CaliganVoid

7 жыл бұрын

+Andrew Devine he wasn't much of a fan of Fury Road.

Great review and completely agree! The best Star Wars film since the 80s and manages to expand on the original ideas of the story in a similar way that Empire Strikes Back did.

Nice to see a review from a grown-up critic every now and then. Had enough of the youtube review mob ripping each other's heads off on what is real "Star Wars" and what is not.

I love the way Kermode talks about Star Wars he gets so excited lol

Wow, excellent review! I love how you start out by mentioning Felicity Jones's performance. I don't think she's getting enough credit for her performance. She completely became Jyn Erso.

Dear Mr Kermode, thank you for another great analysis. Please review Passengers. I'm very curious about your opinion.

Fantastic film I cannot recommend it enough especially for non Star Wars fans.

I couldn't agree more with you Mark. It's the star wars movie that Lucas should have made instead of the prequels!

@theanonymouscritic1710

Ай бұрын

Hey newsflash, some of us like the Prequels so go figure.

I agree with that this a great star wars film and probably in the top 3 for me after ESB and ANH. One thing I do want to add which I don't think Mark mentioned us that the beginning of the film's pacing is a little weird for me as you're jumping to different planets and different characters in a short time frame in order to establish them which maybe could have been done better. Overall though it all comes together nicely and it's got to be one of the best and most complete third acts that you'll see in a film this year.

Mmmmm see it i will

Great review. I was waiting for him to say, "The best Star Wars movie ever" though.

Wow, Kermode sure loved it. Definitely one of the most positive reviews I've seen. I'm surprised he didn't mind the jumpy beginning as well.

Enjoyed this way more than The Force Awakens, that battle on Scarif was truly immense.

I think the drawing line in that movie is whether you like the characters or not. I didn't feel anything for them, just like I felt nothing for the Magnificient Seven characters, of which it is a rip-off. Second problem with this movie is whether you believe in its gimmicky dialogues or not. I didn't. Last problem is whether you're annoyed or not by their mention of the Force. I think those mentions were so crowbarred in and cringeworthy. I think however that it is a good movie, but not a great one. It doesn't go beyond just being a good blockbuster movie.

@yv3652

7 жыл бұрын

spaceboy2095 my thoughts too.Only Donnie Yen made me smile and felt sorry for

@spaceboy2095

7 жыл бұрын

Matthew Barnes Donnie Yen, you mean the guy who was repeating the same sentence over and over again? Lol I couldn't stand him. ;-)

@yv3652

7 жыл бұрын

spaceboy2095 Yeah he had more personality,cool fight scenes and the funniest line

@spaceboy2095

7 жыл бұрын

Matthew Barnes For me, if I have to pick one it would be K2-SO. But I don't have much love for him because it's simply the exact opposite of C3PO.

@yv3652

7 жыл бұрын

spaceboy2095 Guna b a film that splits alot of opinions.Good but not great for me.

Rogue one: has fantastic epic qualities with brilliant action sequences and scale. However character development wasn't present

@alexsc7187

7 жыл бұрын

Paul Cook not really. I couldn't tell you much about them. What was donny yens character called? What was the red shooty guy called? Krellan was okay (names probably wrong) but he doesn't have a lot of character even though he has motivation.

@alexsc7187

7 жыл бұрын

TreeroyJ this story is about them. It shouldn't be about whether it's a star wars story, it should be for a narrative do the characters have an arc or development? To me not really. I mean Donny yen had good character but no development. I liked how andor was ruthless but I couldn't tell you anything about the rest. Kso2 was pretty good thinking about it

@philiprobinson2773

7 жыл бұрын

I don't agree with you at all Alex... There was as much character development as any other BIG character driven film... i.e. "THE GREAT ESCAPE" "THE DIRTY DOZEN" "THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN" etc etc... The film would have had to be 3hrs long for all the back story you'd need to get emotionally involved, really - you clearly need that... The fact that you didn't pick up the characters names shows you weren't paying attention to the dialogue!!! Most people got the characters immediately as we got maybe a line or two stating why they're here, what they're about. Baze Malbus (the red shooty guy) says to Chirrut Imwe (Donny Yen pole welding kung fu guy) I've been watching over you for many years - in the scene after destroying all those Stormtroopers... It showed a strong bond and care between these two individuals and thats all we needed!

@alexsc7187

7 жыл бұрын

The argument that just because a few films have lacking character development meaning its okay that rogue one has little character development is incredibly weak. Its be almost 50 years since all three of the films you mentioned were made, i would hope that film makers would have managed to improved on the formula. Id also argue that s film such as the magnificent 7 had much better characterisation, for example, charles bronsosn character, hes a tough hero with a gentle side, who's purpose isnt for money but to be brave and noble and accept a challenge. Or the young man who's a hothead and wants to prove something. Their actions made sense based on the traits they were given. In rogue one for example, casians decision to not kill gailan, came out of nowhere really, there wasnt much build up to this change. Also if i was to say describe Baze's character without saying what he does or what he looks like, what would you say? I agree that Donnie yen had character but no character development. His back story of protecting jedi temples was good but thats all we got, and yes there was a bond between him and Baze but the bond between casian and jyn was not existence. theres no chemistry, which is why the end with them hugging on a beach had no effect on me. Also i feel like you think i hate this film, phillip. I dont. I actually like it i just think it could have been better and for me the way to improve it was through the characters and providing more arcs and motivation. Did you really feel sad when any of them died. I did for K2SO and Chirrut but thats it. Bodhi again should have had more to him, some more lines about his relationship with gailan would have improved his motivation a lot more, i would have even have settled for a flashback or maybe even gailan sending him a personal message. Speaking of which, gailan had a lot of potential and overall was a good character.

The ending somehow reminds me of the classic film On The Beach

This review will forever be my defence for the film. It was great. And my fav film critic agrees!

Decent film, great last half-hour, probably worth it for one line from Donnie Yen alone (plus that Vader scene). As comedy robots go, K-2SO is good, but not quite as good as CASE and TARS in Interstellar

@Gilberto90

7 жыл бұрын

Charlie Panayiotou I completely forgot how good those two were in Interstellar. I need to watch that again though to compare them to K2SO.

I really enjoyed it.. Stuart Baird was credited for some of the editing.. I suspect that he did that third act.

I agree with much of what was said here. There was definitely an evocation of cinematic war movies from the past- two that occurred to me were The Longest Day and, oddly, Saving Private Ryan. I thought the same thing with regard to the battle sequences - Like 1977 but with better CGI. That familiarity, that comfort of knowing you were in the Star Wars Universe, and the quality of the action sequences made for a really good immersive experience. I will take issue with the first hour build up- too many planets, a bit complicated trying to introduce the new cast- and the diversity issue. That was definitely shoehorned in, but what the hell, go with it. 1977 was predominantly white. And Male. Times have changed. The fate of a number of the cast was surprising- although logical in a sense- and in keeping with the story. As this is in essence Star Wars 3.5 it had a demanding job to do. It delivered. "Wow"indeed.

I loved it. My only issue was with the CG Tarkin. Stuck out like a sore thumb.

@nicholasdickens2801

7 жыл бұрын

wiseguy100 I thought that that with the Princess Leia was amazing.

@cometmoon4485

7 жыл бұрын

In my opinion, both characters looked pretty good when staying still, but whenever the former opened his mouth... it just looked off.

Visually great, in keeping with 4,5,6. Superb set pieces, great costumes & set designs. Not over reliant on CGI. The story is pretty good but the dialogue is clunky & wooden at times, so is the acting. The characters were one dimensional & lacked depth. The comedic aspect which predominantly comes from a Robot is platitudinous. Cliché rears its ugly head on occasion, eg when a cable gets caught round some detritus impeding the pilot from making a pivotal transmission. It's standard but no better than that. A nuts & bolts action movie. Lacks the magic & charm of the originals but is a dame site better than the monstrosities that Followed. 6/10 & I'm being generous.

@JackJames2612

7 жыл бұрын

Blue Beard Your review was better than Kermodes. Have to say it IS over reliant on CGI especially when it comes to two characters..

@AlexDeLarge77

7 жыл бұрын

JackJames2612 I take your point on the two characters. I think the the CGI aspect visually overall is authentic in the sense that it matches up well with the originals, 4,5,6. The later movies 1,2,3 were overloaded with CGI & as prequels looked more futuristic & therefore strangely out of step. Kermode's criticisms of the later films are spot on. I'm not sure why he wasn't more critical here. Maybe the criticism levelled at Kermode himself is warranted, that is, when he likes a particular director he goes easy on their work.

@jackiemclean2776

6 жыл бұрын

Blue Beard i

Chris Stuckmann needs to see this. I completely agree with Kermode.

@BenPole90

2 жыл бұрын

Stuckmann is alright, he’s a fan boy of a lot of films abs franchises more than he is a critic. Kermode is a true critic.

i found it so unengagingly dull that when i left an hour into the film to get a drink (and i never pop out during films), i fainted in the lobby. true story.

@icecubedirectorofshield6636

7 жыл бұрын

oh man, THATS SO COOL!1!111!111!!!1.. -_-

I found very little character development and could not care less about the characters (except the droid). Not a bad film but just very little to like, and far to many silly references to the old movies(not as bad as ghostbusters 2016)!

@synchc

7 жыл бұрын

+wolverineiscool *massive spoilers.* "without the visuals, the vader and leia scenes it was a dud" the space and geographical cgi was near perfect. the tarkin scenes were the absolute bottom of the uncanny valley. the leia scene was a 5 second vertical free fall down a mine shaft at the bottom of the uncanny valley. especially stomach churning given its timing after fisher's death. the vader scenes were ok. just ok. ".... didnt care about telling a great story" this is star wars, not chekov. the story consists of elements of other stories told a thousand times before. its more about the story telling and pathos. which R1 had in abundance, in my opinion. "... it was too light and not dark enough nor interesting enough" not dark enough? a rebel intel officer is sent to assassinate the father of a member of his crew having already murdered one of his own agents, rather than see him fall into imperial hands. the rebellion flounders on indecision at its most critical time. a rag tag bunch of misfits and criminals set out on a commando mission to save a rebellion they arent a part of. they all die increasingly glorious deaths. deaths wed all like to die. are you serious? for star wars, this was dark. interesting? i dont go to see a star wars film expecting to come out feeling morally conflicted or intellectually challenged the same way i dont go to see a french romance film and criticize it for its lack geographical diversity or action sequences. what did you expect? rogue one is not without its flaws but, imho, its the best star wars film since RoTJ, hands down. the editing was _worthy_ of the OT. that alone makes it a valuable addition.

Quite agree - very good film. One quibble - it seems more and more like people in Star Wars can fly half-way round the galaxy in less time than it takes to get across downtown LA

The film reminded me of Enzo Castellari's The Inglorious Bastards, especially plot-wise and it works really well.

@fortyfour1654

7 жыл бұрын

Hanniffy Dinn ..well do ya feel lucky punk?

Great review!

the Rogue One cast lineup feels far more organic than Suicide Squad, which just felt forced and not synergetic (blame WB wanting to keep as many of the "important" characters alive for a franchise)

Isn't it about time you filmed in HD? High Def is over a decade old.

I'll be honest, I liked it, but I wanted to see more of the lead's backstory. I won't spoil anything but I think I would have cared more about her character and her relationships to certain other characters.

@Zancb

7 жыл бұрын

oh god please don't tell me she's another damn Skywalker or Solo!

@notmyname9261

7 жыл бұрын

Nah ya don't need to worry about that :-)

@gymnodinium9

7 жыл бұрын

Same, I liked Force Awakens because of the characters. Granted this one has spectacular action but never got to care about the characters, except maybe the droid.

@philiprobinson2773

7 жыл бұрын

The Story would have had to be to long n padded for that to have happened. The drive for the film was subplot... where everything was going and the notion of sacrifice for the greater good

@notmyname9261

7 жыл бұрын

Philip Robinson I think they could have done it with a couple of brief flashbacks and by trimming down a couple of scenes, such as the rebels first meeting with her for example.

K2so stole the show, 9/10 for me

Mark Kermode forgot to mention about the "no opening craw" at the start of the movie. I watched it his past weekend and I thought it was better than Force Awakens but overall I was dissapointed. I'm not sure how the characters relate to the story. It seems like most of the scenes were very quick and very few moments stood alone in the film.

The film’s length maybe long in parts, however the film’s action packed, well acted, stylish & A well directed spinoff of Star Wars. (79%) (4/5 stars) (positive)

My favourite Star Wars film since Empire Strikes Back.

Completely agree with you on Felicity Jones. I thought she did a great job at portraying a hardened, battle-scarrred survivor - she was great!

anyone else thought it had a slow start?

@joshuaprice3965

7 жыл бұрын

For me it wasn't slow as much as it was jumbled, setting up a dozen characters by jumping from location to another as quickly as possible. Luckily though I thought it recovered and then some, with an amazing second half that remedied the unfocussed first.

@ABonafideSkeleton

7 жыл бұрын

Not really slow, more bumpy if you ask me. Being quickly introduced to a character on a planet and then suddenly jumping to another character on another planet and then jumping *back* was a little jarring, but then the film found it's bearings and just fell into place. Smooth sailing from there on.

@ChrisDynamo

7 жыл бұрын

That first hour was EXCRUCIATING. It was just so bad, I was cringing.

@ezrasky3761

6 жыл бұрын

No

The scene at the end where the Death Star comes into orbit. He realises he's about to be destroyed by his own creation.

Watching it tonight. As a life long SW fan I can't wait.

@runcibusarse-weasel964

7 жыл бұрын

So, what did you reckon?

Great review.

Rogue One is the only good Star Wars Prequel.

I know people will say “damning with faint praise” and this isn’t how it is meant. But this is the only Star Wars film I’ve seen in my adult lifetime that has captured the depth and magic of the original trilogy. I love this film, and it works more with subsequent watches

I thought the characters were thinly written, Diego Luna's character was massively boring in my opinion

@LepeczynLCN

7 жыл бұрын

123rockfan To me, his character was sufficiently develop in a few scenes, however, i just didn't buy Diego Luna's acting

@brianisebay

7 жыл бұрын

I thought he was great, embodied the underhanded, "rebel scum" who will do whatever it takes to keep the Rebellion going

@armageddonbound

6 жыл бұрын

Thinly written? Like chewy, and basically every secondary character in the original trilogy?

my only problem is that it seems to be lit with 40watt lights

Rebels shooting helpful informants in the back to prevent security breaches? Attacking imperials and not caring too much about collateral damage? This is what resistance movements look like in reality. Gave the film a much greater depth.

I really enjoyed it as well and for me it actually made me like the Force Awakens more. I liked TFA well enough but I was also incredibly worried that after that somewhat fan fiction-y reintroduction to the Star Wars universe that that's all we would get but this movie made some genuinely ballsy choices and was a really fun, exciting time from top to bottom. I've only seen it once so I'm hesitant to say it for sure, but I think I like it more than TFA and it definitely gets me excited at the prospect of future films.

Would love to know what Mark thought of the accusations of fan service (Vader and AT-STs appearing) and the complaints that the movie would mean nothing without the Star Wars IP. I found that last complaint rather odd when this was specifically a franchise movie detailing events leading up to EP IV, but there you go.

One of the rare times I totally disagree with most of his points but yes the Vader scene at the end was excellent, maybe I just wanted some more lightsabre battles.

Just saw it yesterday, yes it has some flaws, most films do, but to my mind it's the Star Wars film I've been waiting for all my life.

I enjoyed this way more than The Force Awakens. It had the same feel as the original movies (thanks to the film stock and various processes they put the picture through to give it that 70's look) and it took me to strange places, like the wonderful trading post town the Rogues must visit to begin their search. I 'bought' the characters more too. As much as I respect Oscar Isaac, I just didn't buy the Poe Dameron character at all! Perhaps the fact he was cast so late is to blame. He may not of had time to work his performance and instead went for a sort of cliched 'fly boy' thing. It was an annoying character I found. Also, perhaps as a result of the character being darker, as adorable as Daisey Ridley is, Felicity was spot on with her portrail. Dare I say, this is one of my fav Star Wars movies. it is up there with Empire I feel.

I feel like the first half is quite slow and a bit messy, but, the second half is some of the best Star Wars ever!

Definitely the best, spin off of all the "a star wars story" made.

@TheMijman

4 жыл бұрын

I'd say best of them since 1983

Absolutely Outstanding Film! Even better than 'The Force Awakens!' In fact the Best 'Star Wars Film' in over 30 Years! I thought the direction was Flawless!x

If you're a Star Wars fan you'll like it judging by the reaction of people at the theater I was at and Mark's review, don't know much about SW and never really got into it so I was lost during the movie and even slept a couple of times, disappointed to see that the movie had a few cliches such as evil and hero face off with the usual speech, I was excited to hear Donnie Yen was in the movie (any martial artists or fans would know what I mean) but even his parts weren't that impressive, they should've gave him the camera for the fight scenes to show them how it's done.

What was up with Vader's voice? I thought it was JEJ, but it sounded off to me...

The CGI characters were good but I couldn't help thinking that there was no soul embodied which indeed there isn't. Someone else commented 'dead behind the eyes'. They just felt like really well-skinned androids to me. Plus I just kept looking at the digital work when they appeared and was marvelling at the current state of technology therein. It was just creepy. Wonder if in 20 years time they'll get to digitise the soul? Shudder the thought.

I wasn't a big fan of the CG versions of the old characters. They didn't really pass the uncanny valley and pulled me out of the story a bit cos they looked a bit dead behind the eyes. Purely a visual thing.

You can here the knuckledraggers teeth grinding when Mark said diversity 😄.

Just saw it. Very dull for the first two acts. Don't think it was redeemed by the exciting last part but then I'm not a Star Wars fan..

@dloverise

7 жыл бұрын

You're not alone… very dreary characters, wooden acting and TERRIBLE SCRIPT.

I still believe that the explosion at the end of the movie should have sounded like an almighty fart.

Good to hear someone say something positive regarding the gender and racial equality in the movie The alt-right have gone all out to thumb down this movie on Rotten Tomatoes and promoted a boycott since it didn't match their bigoted agendas

@nicholasdickens2801

7 жыл бұрын

Teh Goat You'd have to be an idiot to rely on Rotten Tomatoes 🍅 for a good review.

@gspell6232

7 жыл бұрын

Teh Goat too few green aliens. not enough diversity compared to star trek so I voted down.

@Tehgoat

7 жыл бұрын

I all for equality, but not the men hating nonsense pushed by 3rd wave feminists Thankfully, they are just a fringe

@emilioestevezz

7 жыл бұрын

There was no gender or racial equality in this movie, only tokenism. There was a single woman in a massive cast of men and she was an action girl trope.

Not going to talk about CGI Tarkin and Leigh?

@underreppin

7 жыл бұрын

No because that would be a spoiler, he's very careful about not giving things away

Great film, takes 3rd place behind New hope and Empire strikes back, better than Jedi (ewoks jeez) What makes Rogue one superior is that everyone dies, none of this survival nonsense, the Vader scene in the dark lit up by the red lightsaber is just brilliant

It's the absolute dogs nuts. Huge, swollen Pit Bull nuts (the dog not the rapper). If you don't like it I am suspicious of your soul.

No way, I actually agree with Kermode for a change

Lol never heard Kermit spout so much gumpf in all his career.

I completely disagree. Rogue One I felt had a very inconsistent tone, it didn't know if it wanted to be serious or lighthearted. This is the problem with extensive reshoots, the director never is able to achieve their vision.

@tisFrancesfault

7 жыл бұрын

TheSEMAJ1117 the same could be said for all star wars films.

@TheSEMAJ1117

7 жыл бұрын

tisFrancesfault No, you see, Rogue One was originally meant to be a ultra serious Saving Private Ryan type war movie, nothing like any other Star Wars film. However, since Disney thought it was too serious and bleak, they decided to make it more lighthearted and in tone with your usual Star Wars film, hence the reshoots. If Edwards stuck with his vision, i bet Rogue One would have been a phenomenal film and have a consistent tone throughout.

@efnarios

7 жыл бұрын

cool. That's like your opinion man...

I get Marks point its great how it adds the diversity of women and men and different ethinicities without it being forced in which is really good, however the characters are generally really boring he didnt once even talk about the character development of any of characters specifically because the only one who gets it is Deigo Luna (Cassian). The only real people with any motivation in the rogue 1 crew is Riz Ahmed and Deigo Luna everyone else just join for the sake of joining especially Jyn who is just motivated by daddy issues. It was an ok movie with the last 30mins being Good.

@lkrnpk

7 жыл бұрын

Chirrut, the blind guy... I think his motivation was, well... they (empire) destroyed his city and temple etc. So he hadplenty of motivation.

@nickyvengeance3654

7 жыл бұрын

I get your point but all they had to do was add a few scenes of them talking to each other learn more about them, because it would have made us care for them more but instead I didnt even care when they died.

Its been wonderful to see that these new Star Wars films from disney have made you a fan of the franchise. Understandably you were not a fan of the prequels, no sane minded star wars fan was, I was always kinda surprised by your disdain for the original trilogy, especially as you were such a vocal fan of silent running and 2001, though clearly SW is notably different in tone and style, it does however deliver a cinematic experience that at times just make the audience go "Wow!" I'm wondering if there is any other franchise out there that has managed to reach this sort of quality so far into its life, for me the last star trek film wa a disaster, especially with the beastie boys mars attacks plot rip off. rambling again

@fortyfour1654

7 жыл бұрын

Andrew Devine Nicely put! He damaged the Star Trek franchise, and then did likewise to the Star Wars franchise!

@anirudhmenon4234

7 жыл бұрын

Like it or not, the prequels have a lot of fans as well. Personally, my favourite Star Wars film is still Episode III

Spot on. This has become the best 'Star Wars' film by far...

Funny seeing this after the Red Letter Media review.

@danielkonishi8788

7 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed watching the Red Letter Media review of Rogue One. Spot on.

Maybe I'll give it another go as I got so bored I switched off around the 1hr 10mins mark as it just seemed a shambling incoherent mess of a screenplay that jumps around far too much with thinly developed and un-engaging characters (and Daniel Mays, or maybe his acting, felt way out of place for some reason). I've found that Mr K and my views tally far more often than not so I was surprised to hear he likes it given his comments about franchises and films based on 'universes'. Some of the other comments in this thread also lead me to believe that the middle does wallow so I think it goes back on later this week but I do wonder if it might just be another hour of my life I wont get back.

@paultreneary

7 жыл бұрын

Well, a fairly un-engaging second half, though I will admit it picked up a little and I did consider if the film might have fared better if it'd been made with French actors in French and with subtitles(!), but ultimately a very disappointing film - I felt virtually no connection with any of the characters and dismissed their various demises with no regard at all - I will have to disagree with Mr K on this one.

I found this unexpectedly disappointing, especially considering how fresh and enjoyable I found Episode VII, similar with Felicity who I very much liked in A Monster Calls but not here. The 'comic relief' and 'as many characters as possible die one by one for maximum drama' were deafeningly obvious. I did laugh a bunch regardless, but didn't feel any connection to the characters. I was made uncomfortably aware I was watching a movie that was unnecessary long. I watched and admired Arrival the day before, a very simple movie so as great as it was I wanted some cool space action. Instead, Arrival made me think after Rogue One that, wow, that slow as heck film captivated me with a couple central ideas and main characters, and I couldn't properly enjoy this. What a shame. I hope VIII will retain VII's standards, especially if it can tell a new story while at it. As I heard a guy clapping alone for 10 seconds when Darth Vader came out, awesome as he is, I wondered how much of a fan I had to be to enjoy this. So as fan service it's evidently more than enough, as an actual film, don't think so.

@PhantomV13

7 жыл бұрын

I didn't draw such a comparison at all. What matters in me mentioning Arrival isn't that it is also a sci-fi movie, but that it accomplished much more with far less. Could've been any other sort of film. Rogue One had more characters and runtime than it should, especially obvious in the final sequence of events. Complication after complication and death after death for main characters, I couldn't find myself engaged in any of that. The drama and action in Episode VII, to make a more fitting comparison, were focused, and as such more meaningful. It's just something Rogue One made me strongly think about, just found that fitting to share to elaborate on why it disappointed me. Of course Arrival is a completely different film.

I'm not only trying to decide if it is better than Empire... I'm trying to decide if it is better than any film I've ever seen...

@leecoombs6355

7 жыл бұрын

No, I assure you, no exaggeration. My favourite film of all time is Aliens and this is seriously challenging for top spot...

@brendan2415

7 жыл бұрын

Lee Coombs

@leecoombs6355

7 жыл бұрын

Brendan Mcauley Yes?

This was the best movie of the "Star Wars Saga". The rest of them were touchy feelie, either coming of age or Disney Ride movies. Never involved enough to develope any feelings about any of the other characters in any of the other movies. I actually cared that these characters were going to die to achieve the results.

The Empire Strikes Back and Rogue One are simply the best films of the Star Wars franchise.

Anyone who thinks the lead character has no development or is not interesting, watch The Force Awakens again and tell me how Rey, a character who is somehow excellent at everything is anyway better.

@timc9806

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah Rey is an awful character. The Felicity Jones character is less awful but still awful. So that proves what exactly?

Hello to Jason Isaacs

Overall, I thought it was brilliant. Felt like a proper Star Wars film and the battle scenes were some of the best in the series. However, I felt the dialogue was poorly written and *those* CGI scenes were absolutely unforgivable. I spent most of the final 45 minutes in nerd heaven, then found myself double face-palming for the closing scene.

Wow, very positive review for a film that had a lot of problems: choppy editing in the front section, poor underdeveloped score, and underdeveloped characters.

@WhiteWolf496

4 жыл бұрын

I know this is a comment from 2 years ago... but I have to say, regarding the score... yeah its probably the weakest star wars score there is... but Giacchino had literally 2 weeks to write and record the whole thing. So keeping that in mind, its a bit more impressive.