“There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.” ― George Orwell

@chucknchar

6 ай бұрын

Or grasp it.

@moriz1037

6 ай бұрын

Orwell was a socialist btw

@RadicalRoots23

6 ай бұрын

Who was himself a left intellectual, of course. It was his annoyance at the silly things other intellectuals said that made him feel and say that (i have written a book about him, with permission from his son).

@timbuktu8069

6 ай бұрын

Interesting. Can you give us the title?@@RadicalRoots23

@fredmercury1314

6 ай бұрын

Is that why Orwell has been cancelled now?

“My favourite definition of 'Intellectual' is: 'A person whose education surpasses their intelligence.'” - Arthur C. Clarke

@jesseleeward2359

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha. I call that 'intellegensia'.

@AkiraNakamoto

Жыл бұрын

@@jesseleeward2359 I think you borrow the term from Thomas Sowell. LOL

@FreedomAndPeaceOnly

Жыл бұрын

We have a devastating narcicism problem in the West too. People _"left & right"_ (lol) realize at some point in their lifes that they have gone astray maybe for +3 decades of their lifes. And that some *nonsense* they belived in, is just that - nonsense. Nonsense which also has negative effects on them. But a narcist who can't deal with the fact that they have not been flawless in their entire lifes, will chose to rather sink with their ship as to change course. Thats the problem.

@josephcoon5809

Жыл бұрын

“Education” can be acquired in better places than university.

@MrMirville

Жыл бұрын

When you education surpasses your intelligence it must no longer be called education, it is called indoctrination. It means that somebody more intelligent than you uses his intelligence without imparting it to you but to possess you.

I've met highly educated people who are brilliant in their disciplines, but are completely ignorant of the world around them. The problem is that they choose small groups of people who think similarly, so they never get another perspective creating feedback loops, or cultural bubbles.

@CS-zn4bu

6 ай бұрын

Exactly! That is precisely the problem. I have doctors as my friends, who are very good in their jobs! But they follow the main stream media and politics like sheep, not questioning them!

@rdelrosso1973

6 ай бұрын

Yes, a person can be a Phd in one field, but be totally ignorant of the History of The Big Bang Theory.

@bensolo7217

6 ай бұрын

I find the same statement applies to uneducated echo chamberists as well. Seem less of an "x group" thing and more of a idiot human thing.

@grantturk889

6 ай бұрын

Causes echo chambers and they never have any self reflection. This is why the big sort is dividing america so hard

@ninamoores

6 ай бұрын

Yes.I would add to that ……that I have known several intellectuals and not a single one of them had an ounce of common sense!

Intellectuals are people who have become so gifted at mental gymnastics they can talk themselves right out of reality all together.

@craigwalton8241

3 ай бұрын

You described an 'academic', not an intelluctual.

@bgt63

17 күн бұрын

​@@craigwalton8241potāto/potăto

I am definitely not an intellectual: I only realised that this wasn’t about left-handed people 10 seconds in

@HugoStiglitz88

Жыл бұрын

Well they do say left handed people are on average more intelligent and skilled so I don't entirely blame you

@sidarthur8706

Жыл бұрын

ah but would a less brilliant mind have found such a connection? you don't fool me

@Phar2Rekliss

Жыл бұрын

You got me.laughing

@robmangeri777

Жыл бұрын

God love you! Don’t worry, that certainly doesn’t disqualify you from being intelligent!

@thereignofthezero225

Жыл бұрын

Wipe with the left, eat with the right

"That idea is so stupid that only a PhD would believe it " said my favorite philosophy professor

@ghostsheet777

Жыл бұрын

Pot head degenerate??? If that's the case then your professor is right, since I understand very stupid ideas quite easily 😊

@KL0098

Жыл бұрын

That's a variation of a George Orwell line.

@winniecash1654

Жыл бұрын

😂

@ozymandiasultor9480

Жыл бұрын

Stupid ideas are easy for spotting, and I guess in believing in those, but stupid ideas come in many different shapes and forms, I think much more shapes and forms than smart ideas... Stupid ideas can be understood by some half-educated or even some ignoramus if it is easy for understanding, and there are stupid ideas cloaked in cocoons of different layers of complexity, especially in philosophy, so many metaphysics sound very smart, and yet those mean almost nothing or bring nothing new in the table. So I agree, but I must add some stupid ideas can be understood by almost anyone.

@ghostsheet777

Жыл бұрын

@@ozymandiasultor9480 thanks I didn't even notice lol

Making a decision solely based on a left or right choice without considering the underlying complexities of a problem isn't necessarily an intellectual approach. It's important to critically analyze the situation, consider multiple perspectives, and think beyond binary solutions. Intellectual thinking involves exploring different options, weighing their pros and cons, and seeking a comprehensive understanding of the issue at hand. It's all about embracing nuance and complexity!

@garchafpv

6 ай бұрын

i wish my brain worked like yours..

@thomascooper5114

6 ай бұрын

Yeah so they’re weighing the pros & cons out, then ending up on the left. Makes you wonder why the right want people to be uneducated & lack critical thinking skills.

@SeattleMartin

6 ай бұрын

Excellent comment!

@PBTexasBoy

6 ай бұрын

Great comment!

@vanceslas2

6 ай бұрын

@garchafpv Haha, I'm sure your brain is amazing. We all have our unique strengths and abilities!

Interviewer forgot which one of them was being interviewed.

@georggeorgeus8718

Ай бұрын

It is not a interview it is a talk between to people.

The most intelligent people are able to acknowledge that they can be wrong. That seperates them from ideologists.

@SMoore-vj7bt

Жыл бұрын

Ideologue.

@sheepishmclemmingston5550

Жыл бұрын

" I don't much like ideologues, as they tend NOT to think for themselves" * Dr. Jordan B Peterson *

@th3orist

Жыл бұрын

but you have ideologists on both 'sides' tbh. i don't think you can reserve that term for just one political side.

@DrUrlf

Жыл бұрын

@@th3orist Of course but I didn’t do that. Ideology always comes at the cost of reason and practicality. The best thing is to be pragmatic in your views and actions.

@DrUrlf

Жыл бұрын

@@sheepishmclemmingston5550 He is an ideologue though isn’t he? Atleast a reactionary.

"The hand of vengeance found the bed to which the purple tyrant fled. The iron hand crushed the head And came a tyrant in it's stead." Beautiful ❤️

@_Jitterbug

Жыл бұрын

- William Blake

@jackheisterman6731

Жыл бұрын

you mean meet the new boss same as the old boss

@septembersurprise5178

Жыл бұрын

@@jackheisterman6731 Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

@jackheisterman6731

Жыл бұрын

@@septembersurprise5178 so saith the Shepard so saith the flock

@KibyNykraft

Жыл бұрын

@@jackheisterman6731 In modern times, the self-defined"Right" means "lower taxes for small businesses and individuals" and "accepting the reality of natural sexes and the benefits of the family structure". If we look at the bigger picture internationally that is. These are the only aspects that fully unites a group of politicians and ideamakers that can be defined for example as the Right. While the Right in the USA are against abortion, the Right in Scandinavia and west Europe are pro abortion rights for women. Regarding economic theory, both most of the Right and all of the Left are in favour of keynesian economics globally, whereas the intellectual minority of the Right are exclusively in favour of "austrian" school (stable money value, Hayek, von Mises, M Friedman). In west and north Europe the intellectual Right is also often in favour of atheism and better conditions for science ,while the uneducated Right and the Left worldwide are mostly in favour of islam and/or New age alternativism and/or catholicism and/or lutheranism and/or hinduism.

The problem is that too many academic types believe they are intellectuals merely because they have spent lots of money and time pursuing a degree. They live in a vacuum of groupthink, and since all of the other so-called intellectuals they know agree with them, they believe they are justified in their belief and must indeed be wise. Therefore, everyone who isn't an academic like they are must not be smart enough to see what they see.

@ezcoreg759

6 ай бұрын

This is no different than a cult mindset of academics. I'd much rather listen to an uneducated person, who was educated by life and how people are, than someone who has had their nose in the books. As said in the video, real life is crucial on personal belief on concept of truth, and these intellectual types are just speaking a belief of thoughts taught akin to indoctrination as the only way.

@vitalyl1327

5 ай бұрын

@@ezcoreg759 you and your kind are the worst problem of our civilisation.

@chubsnubber4867

5 ай бұрын

You hammered that nail! Damn! 😉

@pippipster6767

5 ай бұрын

There is a tremendous difference between intellectualism and intelligence.

@somethingginterestingg4275

2 ай бұрын

To be fair, there is definitely value in knowing history, for example. It's much harder to convince someone that xyz is evil and you must be right if you can point to numerous times/patterns in history where something very similR happened and x occurred because of it.

The host likes the sound of his own voice. Roger is the one who's supposed to be the one answering the questions

@lumpeegrendel1636

2 ай бұрын

Glad for the comment. I kept thinking that I would love to hear Roger speak more, but he kept getting cut off. Seems to be a common experience to impress someone that you admire with your own grasp of the subject. You asked him to talk, please let him do so.

@brianfranklin9163

2 ай бұрын

Host Peter Robinson in "Uncommon Knowledge" does the same thing.

@georggeorgeus8718

Ай бұрын

HAHAHAHA.......... You really didn't get what this is, it is not a interview, it is a talk between to people about a subject.

The true mark of intelligence is the ability to uncover the false assumptions of an argument.

@janinebelleestrada7096

Жыл бұрын

I was one of the intellectuals in my school till I discovered real life and grass hahaha

@mattolson1760

Жыл бұрын

I would modify that statement to be "the false assumptions of your own argument." Critical thinking requires one to be critical of their own thinking.

@bethoughtprovoking

Жыл бұрын

@@mattolson1760 The statement is about an argument; whether that argument be a personal one or not is irrelevant to the statement’s premise. No need for modification.

@mattolson1760

Жыл бұрын

@B E Motivated reasoning? It is much easier to spot the false assumptions in another person's argument, especially when you don't agree. Without the ability to spot the flaws in your own arguments first, how can you know that your attempts to undermine an argument you don't agree with aren't a function of motivated reasoning, based on your own false assumptions??

@bethoughtprovoking

Жыл бұрын

@@mattolson1760 You’re begging the question. Let me try again. Here’s my statement: “The true mark of intelligence is the ability to uncover the false assumptions of an argument.” Notice that it states, “an argument”; the use of an indefinite article makes the statement generic. Whether the argument is a personal one or no, it has no relevancy; it applies equally to one’s own arguments as it does to another’s. Socrates would say that he was aware of his own ignorance, and his method (the Socratic method) purposed to expose the fallacy of an argument(s).

Thomas Sowell sums it up succinctly; “If an engineer makes a mistake, for example, and their building collapses killing hundreds, they are ruined. In the same vain, if someone who’s only profession is being an intellectual makes a mistake and millions die there is virtually no accountability.”

@SJM6791

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely true!!

@christianyellic3394

4 жыл бұрын

My bad, misquoted him. “People who’s end product are ideas”. The Frankfurt School comes to mind, but I suppose that doesn’t take a stretch on the imagination 😆

@johndoily9407

4 жыл бұрын

Good observation. He's also one of these intellectuals. "Left-leaning" intellectuals that praised Stalin's "communism" surely got embarrassed. Likewise, "conservatives" being gung-ho about imperial war and our "capitalism" have and continue to support it. The limits of the debate are pretty infantile, it's either "capitalism" vs. "communism".

@LANESxNOWONLYx

4 жыл бұрын

@@johndoily9407 Infantile indeed. How about the government stepping out of the way & we, as a society, engage free enterprise with a moral emphasis on benevolence. This intertwined with individuality & personal liberty & freedom. Possible? Sure. Likely? Sadly, apparently not...

@notbrad4873

4 жыл бұрын

@@johndoily9407 I believe it's because pure capitalism or pure communism are easier to understand and sre ideological. Both fail pragmatically therefore fixedness on the theoretical of the systems end in ruin. When their systems fail they the politicians pay the media for good news. Consider that a milestone for economic and societal regression

"When all the stupid people think they're right, you get what's left." -me, just now

My favorite definition of an Intellectual, "A Person who thinks Ideas are more interesting the People", by Paul Johnson.

@SeattleMartin

6 ай бұрын

People like Roger Scruton.

@chopperking1967

5 ай бұрын

You may wish to change "the" to "than"

@jamestiburon443

5 ай бұрын

@@chopperking1967 correct.

@Xcalator35

3 ай бұрын

Then I'm definitely an intelectual!

It is a mark of a learned man that he can entertain a thought without accepting it.

@DarkJak

Жыл бұрын

This is the why I love shitposting, not all expression needs to be explicit, especially once you know what you stand for and where to defend it

@aramwatters

Жыл бұрын

@@DarkJak This.

@Ethercloud

Жыл бұрын

I can entertain a thot without accepting it ^^

@stacyswiss307

Жыл бұрын

@@Ethercloud hahaha I get it.😂🤣

@davidgood9802

11 ай бұрын

One of the smartest things I have ever heard.

_“Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them”_ - George Orwell

@segmentsAndCurves

Жыл бұрын

Orwell was a socialist. For a time at least.

@HiddenOcelot

Жыл бұрын

@@segmentsAndCurves for a time sure, but he was very jaded with its execution, which never lead to anything he would describe as socialism.

@jonassanoj3045

Жыл бұрын

Orwell never said that.

@samuelshin593

Жыл бұрын

Want to know why libtards are soo predictable? They're nothing but a dead bygone era of brainwashing created by cccp of ussr back in 1940s because commys knew they were losing. So they made a program to turn USA into communistic genocidal maniacs. Look up 1991 riots which was merely a culmination of decades of genocide against us asians who vote republican because we saw first hand of your so called liberal and socialism ideals first hand in our nations ravaged by your retarded ideology. You libtards are racist, narcissistic, genocidal maniacs, pedophiles, and baby killers. 2020 you guys murdered many babies for sure and don't forget 1991. I was there you genocidal maniac. With billions of humans if you're worried about offending anyone, you end up not being able to say anything at all

@samuelshin593

Жыл бұрын

Liberals so stupid they don't understand air is made of 78% Nitrogen, 21% Oxygen, and 1% Hydrogen with 0.05% CO2. To top that off, 99.999999999% of 0.05% of CO2 comes from microorganisms. Every square inch of Earth is microorganisms. Why do you put food inside freezers? Cold temperatures prevent bacterial growth. Same thing with Earth. Temperatures go down, bacterial growth goes down than CO2 goes down and vice versa. Look at any global temperature graph of Earth in billions of years. Temperature always had cyclical change. Always!!. Liberals soo stupid they don't understand what the sun is, which is a fusion reaction of two different isotopes of hydrogen tritium and deuterium overcoming nuclear bonds with gravity, which is extremely inefficient and causes temperature to change. With billions of humans if you try to make something that offends nobody you end up with nothing.

Someone mentioned that ; “ The more school you have ; you loose touch with reality, and would be hard to see the common sense around you .”

@adrianchezorts

6 ай бұрын

As a chemist PhD student, something that has been increasingly clear to me over the years is that "common sense" is a pretty weak cheat for truly understanding reality. It evolved to make us survive, not to bring us any truth.

@k8aik8ai

6 ай бұрын

*lose*

@neloglass

Ай бұрын

I said that for the last 40 years. Wrote books but do not mention titles because the comment will be deleted. It very likely will be deleted anyway.

@neloglass

Ай бұрын

@@k8aik8ai You are one of those "intellectuals" and had to show it. Very likely the person who wrote the comment speaks a few more languages and English is not his native language. You "Intellectuals" are not only incompetent, you are miserable characters as well.

@sammalama

20 күн бұрын

That someone is clearly the one who is out of touch. School is a place of learning, and learning creates more capable people. An educated population has always created a better society. Take a look at everything around you, from the clothes you wear to the fridge keeping your food cold. It was all engineered and designed to help you live a better life. The reason you have GPS on your phone is because people who spent a lot of time in school. The reason you are so well protected in America is because of people who spent a lot of time in school designed and built the most advanced weapons humanity has ever seen. If we stop spending time in school, other nations WONT, and they will pass us in knowledge. So I say this again, your someone is clearly the one not in touch with reality!

Great video thanks for posting Thomas Sowells comments on this exact same question are solid and satisfying in my opinion. Worth checking out

"Without the concept of 'TRUTH', there is NO REAL engagement between people." -Roger Scruton

@vebdaklu

Жыл бұрын

...you can engage people by lying to them, right?

@SadStateOfAffairs

Жыл бұрын

@@vebdaklu Sure, but the engagement isn’t Real from the get go. But I hear you.

@TheFlyingBrain.

Жыл бұрын

Real engagement is the product of recreating another's experience within one's self. It has nothing to do with "truth," which only exists as an abstraction.

@mnomadvfx

Жыл бұрын

Modern politics shows us that truth is fairly subjective to the lowest common denominator in intelligence or knowledge of the audience. The less informed or educated they are, the easier it is to convince them of any 'truth' you want to.

@IceLynne

Жыл бұрын

Quite apparent these days.

In my opinion even if you want to delve into the political spectrum full throttle it will take a year of watching and listening to get a real sense of political history and current political trends and why they are happening. Understanding the media's role in shaping politics is a college course in itself.

@westb1028

Жыл бұрын

It all happens because we live in a fallen world, full of unrepentant sinners. Everything starts with that underpinning. Try reading the Democratic Party platform, it’s like the devil himself wrote it.

@bowedbat

Жыл бұрын

Hence why the media was called the fourth estate!

@flaming7488

Жыл бұрын

People need to to spend more time on politics in general

@kemari47

Жыл бұрын

Is it?

@ojmachine9545

Жыл бұрын

@@westb1028 if going by american politics i'd wager the republican party is just as evil in intent as the democratic platform if not less unabashed about showcasing that evil

The interviewer was more concerned about making his point of view than to let Sir Roger speak out his mind…

Brilliant discussion!

William Buckley Jr said something like “I’d rather be governed by the first fifty names in the phone book than the Harvard faculty”. I’ve spent my time in academia and I agree with that sentiment

@Camcolito

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the Harvard faculty are real communists, lol.

@caroldegraa1

Жыл бұрын

We’d be ruled by Aardvarks.

@Reticuli

Жыл бұрын

There is something to be said for the Athenian sortition.

@Urdatorn

Жыл бұрын

That would be the Athenian prytanies! :D

@OwlMoovement

Жыл бұрын

I wonder if he picked 50 because he had hoped "Buckley" would make it into the first fifty ;) I've got an ant problem in my place that the landlord hasn't dealt with, so I personally welcome our aardvark overlords.

“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.” - Albert Einstein

@Guztenify

Жыл бұрын

And the left create the worst problems

@Guztenify

Жыл бұрын

@Red Levantinist that's scary

@Guztenify

Жыл бұрын

@Red Levantinist I don't read propaganda, neither should you

@Guztenify

Жыл бұрын

@Red Levantinist no, just not propaganda.

@Guztenify

Жыл бұрын

@Red Levantinist resistance members are too politically involved. A person which doesn't have an opinion on politics but only goes on facts sure doesn't write propaganda.

Being an intellectual has nothing to do with left, right or centre of a political spectrum. If someone understands that these political divisions are created artificially, then he is probably an intellectual.

@Isaaczsf

6 ай бұрын

Yeah but even people who acknowledge this tend to be biased towards where they think the artificiality comes from. Very few people could actually reliably be designated as centrist, because the Overton window shifts regularly. So almost everyone has a political alignment as long as they’re educated on politics and social concepts. Most people who believe political division is artificially made believe that their ideas are objectively more rational and benefit society the most, and so the side that disagrees with them principly is artificially created to sway people from their own side

@vitalyl1327

5 ай бұрын

Being an intellectual means knowing that the science evolved a lot since 1790, and every single discovery debunked Adam Smith. Being a rightwing dimwit means believing that free market / small government can work and can be stable, despite all the evidence of the opposite.

@brianevans6617

24 күн бұрын

The point is that “ intellectuals” generally fall on the left. Being a leftist is a side effect of thinking a lot and doing nothing of any importance. College professors for the most part sit at the very bottom of society in my estimation as the lowest most useless turds I can think of.

"Just because you can win the argument doesn't make you right."

@RayW....

Жыл бұрын

Or left...

@hughharper3079

Жыл бұрын

That makes no sense at all

@user-zn4pw5nk2v

Жыл бұрын

@@hughharper3079 you can be wrong and win an argument and doing so doesn't mean you are automatically on the right, but it's most likely so. "the conservative intellectual doesn't need a reason"(as in you ought to remove reason) proceeds with giving his reason and trying to sound reasonable, so does that mean he is not conservative or not intellectual.

@HellCat_Kenny

Жыл бұрын

@@hughharper3079 you can “win” (appear to be the victor) an argument and not have really proven whether or not your position is correct.

@DavidMccallister65

Жыл бұрын

@@hughharper3079 try to think critically about it.

‘Intellectual Conservatism’: The art and craft of working out what’s wrong; then doing nothing to change it

@LostInTheMovies

Жыл бұрын

Bold to assume Scruton cares about the first part.

@ryanmckenzie3627

Жыл бұрын

Also the assumption that doing something means the only way to do anything is using power of the state to do the exact same things they claim to hate over and over.

@AppleJacksCereal

Жыл бұрын

Facts

@samuelluria4744

Жыл бұрын

@Bronson the Nomad - Thank you!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏

@petergreen5337

Жыл бұрын

Well said and well OBSERVED.

While there were certainly some points I disagreed with in this convo, I found it commendable that they acknowledged the shortcomings of both perspectives when coming to their conclusions/making their statements.

Flowers for Algernon laid this out pretty well with one chapter. Experts or intellectuals in a field of study usually only know the ins and outs of the one thing they studied. It’s hard for them to connect the dots to other disciplines or knowledge when they never spent the time to learn it. ie: Neil Degrasse Tyson is a astrophysicist yet he gave bad public health advice stating we didn’t know certain facts at certain times. Well we did, he just didn’t learn the facts for whatever reason, until years later and changed his position

"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." Aldous Huxley

@leonharrison800

Жыл бұрын

What facts? LGBT exist. All we need to know.

@user-ji2on8eg3l

Жыл бұрын

@@leonharrison800 "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." Ayn Rand

@leonharrison800

Жыл бұрын

@Kirk Bowyer Ayn Rand was a fool. Without acting collectively,individuals have no rights. Basic principle of Marxism.

@TA-by9wv

Жыл бұрын

​@@leonharrison800 Yeah mental illness also exists. What of it?

@jub7345

Жыл бұрын

​@@user-ji2on8eg3l very based. Thank you

The thing about intellectuals is that they’re so skilled with language that they will make you believe even the most ridiculous things.

@odradekfilms

Жыл бұрын

I agree, with respect to Scruton !

@machtnichtsseimann

Жыл бұрын

True. They are so skilled with language, have a greater vocabulary, or delivery that is confident. Commands respect. But...so can a good used car salesman selling a lemon. Everyone must come to grips with their vulnerabilities in buying BS from anyone. In the form of Intellectual...Politician...Activist...Religious Leader...Salesman. ( Not saying all are selling BS, but where are we urged to grow in discernment. Our leaders seldom do, it seems. )

@plasticweapon

Жыл бұрын

YES.

@Logicalization

Жыл бұрын

That’s why I only accept Brendan’s Schaub as a thought leader

@kec7116

Жыл бұрын

What a great summation. It encapsulates Marcuse perfectly.

Thomas Sowell is one the most top Intellectual of our time and he's generally on the right not far right but definitely not left

Only an englishmen with all the comforts of the empire would ever say. There is nothing wrong with the world.

@fabricioazevedo2361

6 ай бұрын

I am Brazilian. And from my pont of view, the world is very wrong indeed.

@louis5555gmail

6 ай бұрын

@@fabricioazevedo2361 , was the world ever right?

The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. H. L. Mencken

@zjg3913

5 жыл бұрын

Hightown the green new deal...

@cranekraken24

5 жыл бұрын

So true. Tucker Carlson posed this question on his show the other night, "Can you name one proposal in the Green New Deal that doesn't hand over huge swaths of power to the Demcorat party?". We could pose this same question for every policy the modern Left pushes for. edit: spelling

@TejasM14

4 жыл бұрын

​@@cranekraken24 I hope you see the incongruence of your argument. If you actually buy into this argument, it should also follow that the suggestions of the right too are a false front for the urge to rule. The quotation doesn't suggest it applies to one leaning or another.

@natejennings5884

4 жыл бұрын

I call them the "save-the-world assholes". Beware of the save-the-world assholes.

@conelord1984

4 жыл бұрын

@@TejasM14 Sure it does apply mostly to one side. The right mostly wants to be left alone. The left want to use state powered violence to impose itself over those that do not share their beliefs.

Thomas Sowell has an entire book dissecting this very topic. You’ll never view an “intellectual “ the same way after reading it.

@GruntKF

Жыл бұрын

Hilarious you mention him, as this entire conversation reeks of his type of drivel. Please, please, read some critiques of sowells works and don't trap your mind within his echo chamber of baseless thought

@eats4cheaps305

Жыл бұрын

​@@GruntKF I've read critiques of Sowell. All ideologs.

@umbraemilitos

Жыл бұрын

Who?

@b.entranceperium

Жыл бұрын

​@Matt Moss who would you recommend? It's very hard to debunk his facts from endless years of tireless research and observations...

@juanzulu1318

Жыл бұрын

​@@GruntKF whats the prob with Sowell?

What a wonderful interview by Roger Scruton of this person.

I wish the interviewer would let Roger Scruton speak

“Intellectuals are naturally attracted by the idea of a planned society, in the belief that they will be in charge of it.” - Sir Roger Scruton

@vebdaklu

Жыл бұрын

...what is an "unplanned society"? 🤔

@sdfjhdfgadfjasdrhasfhzc34

Жыл бұрын

@@vebdaklu a free market. one shouldn't be able to 'plan' the stock market

@mirelchirila

Жыл бұрын

@@sdfjhdfgadfjasdrhasfhzc34 So in 2008 you think they should have left the economy fall off a cliff to protect the free market. We did that in the 30’, turns out allowing the entire financial sistem to fall with insurance and pensions has a fair few consequences. By comparison the 2008 crises, a far worse crisis, had less impact on society over all because the fed intervened. There are no serious economists that think the first version is better, so then do we intervene only when big corporations fail and fuck the poor, how is that a free market. And how is that good for business, if the population is kept poor who are you selling to.

@MilwaukeeF40C

Жыл бұрын

The government created the cliff leading up to '29 and '07. Then more government intervention prolonged the consequences. Yes let that shiht correct itself. Foreseeable consequences are not unintended.

@MilwaukeeF40C

Жыл бұрын

Unplanned society: Every petty thing is NOT up for a vote, and individuals do their own thing. Life goes on.

As the philosopher David Hume said to the tune of something like, "The greater learned the mind, it fosters greater liberality of the self."

@HerculesBallsInc

Жыл бұрын

"Disputes are multiply'd, as if every thing was uncertain; the these disputes are manag'd with the greatest warmth, as if every thing was certain." - David Hume

@lkae4

Жыл бұрын

Hume was completely wrong according to universities today.

@theenclave4981

Жыл бұрын

@KL as most universities have replaced Hume with Nietzche and Foucalt unfortunately.

@denverscott37

Жыл бұрын

"man, shut the fuck up" The great philosopher ~Dave Chappelle ~

@lkae4

Жыл бұрын

@@theenclave4981 Do you identify as a progressive?

Learn to love the chains that bind you says the man that has never worn them.

At the 8:35 mark, he says when he was young, the great thing was to go to a bookstore. Same for me. Often, the best books ("The Late Great Planet Earth", or "Coyote" or the SF Novel "CRASH") are ones that I discovered in a bookstore or library, that I did not know existed! In contrast, I never "brouse" Amazon like I do a Bookstore or Library. On Amazon, I have to KNOW that a book exists, and THEN I look for it!

Most intellectuals are like book critics who have never written a book.

@beerman204

10 ай бұрын

Which should humble them and make their views more realistic but rarely does. Truth usually takes the fall as ego prevails.

Define what you mean by an "intellectual"! Define what you mean by "left" and " right". These are commonly used terms which are not ever clearly defined.

People always look like they know what they are talking about when they are sitting in front of lots of books.

An intellectual is someone who when discussing a subject can change his opinion if he finds that his interlocutor’s opinion on the same subject is more convincing than his own.

@gn0my

6 ай бұрын

An intellectual can also find fault in their own arguments and belief. Anyone who refuses to accept a downside or grey area of their ideals is not an intellectual. That simply makes them ignornat.

@goodolarchie

6 ай бұрын

An even more intellectual understands how wrong they are intrinsically, about a great many things, and seeks to constantly get closer to the truth even if an interlocutor never comes along. From that is the font of original thought.

@Kirke182

6 ай бұрын

Everybody does that.

@johndaconkaroo

6 ай бұрын

​@Kirke182 you must be an intellectual

@noc9901

6 ай бұрын

​@@Kirke182in a perfect world, that would be a true statement 😔

In my estimation conservatism in its best sense has to do with recognizing those things that have value and importance when they are found. Liberalism in its best sense is a quest into the unknown to find something new and better. I would argue that honest conservatives and honest liberals should eventually meet each other in those places that are good and valuable and important. I pray that I am correct and that I will see those honest among you one day with me in the presence of God :) Love you all!

@jennifermullen7208

Жыл бұрын

Maybe a true liberal, but the ones that call themselves liberals these days tend to look for all that's wrong with humanity instead of all that's good with humanity and extend on that goodness. From what I've seen and heard from these liberals is.. They are the type to have a beautiful house but because the kitchen is ugly and dated they tear the whole house down..

@gregorywade1559

Жыл бұрын

I realized how necessary liberalism is when my cel phone was stolen. I would have never purchased a new one had the old one not been destroyed but I am much happier with my new one. Liberals destroy and conservatives rebuild better. Make no mistake, however; liberals - being destroyers - should never be allowed to dominate

@theYungOldBoi

Жыл бұрын

❤

@georgefurman4371

Жыл бұрын

Liberalism and conservatism are the historic failure of this system to provide and satisfy the people's priorities and desire for prosperity and social understanding. They both are the servants of the capitalist wealthy class. The attempt at perpetuating this system based on the exploitation of the weak and poor . the present state of American confusion and conflict is the product of both parties failure. War and chaos and environmental catastrophe are the result of the love for this system of profit for the sake of profiting.

@spencerwinston4334

Жыл бұрын

"They all want to get to the throne: that is their madness - as if happiness sat on the throne. Often, mud sits on the throne - and often the throne also on mud. Mad they all appear to me, clambering monkeys and overardent. Foul smells their idol, the cold monster: foul, they smell to me altogether, these idolators. ” ― Friedrich Nietzsche, German, genius philosopher.

One pinion in the gear Case here here mate Sterling observation... the roots of your raisins are deep.

I don’t understand why there can only be left and right. What about the middle?

@ZomBMarketing

3 ай бұрын

There are people in the middle, they are called sheep.

@gregleach5833

3 ай бұрын

There is a middle and this country was founded on it . The govt of the US was put in place so that neither party could ever develop a dictatorship or monopoly on the system because everyone should know where that leads . Both sides were more or less forced to meet in the middle whether they fully agreed or not . Our lack of cooperation is pointing us for troubled times especially when the news media outlets and education system is all teaching and promoting only one side and damning the other .

@nateroberts2696

Ай бұрын

If you are in the middle I ask you, What do you believe, and why do you believe it?

When you never work in the supply chain, it's really easy to take it for granted. We won't be able to do any advanced thinking whatsoever if we're dead from starvation. Until I started working in a small business, I had no idea how much effort needs to be done in non-intellectual pursuits just for our world to operate efficiently. Even with all of the advanced technology we have today.

@c-eb3634

Жыл бұрын

Yes! I think both sides can agree on that one.

@mudddge

Жыл бұрын

Someone has to pull the cart

@michaelfoxbrass

Жыл бұрын

There are no million-dollar ideas, only million-dollar operations.

@matthewcasey4795

Жыл бұрын

The world needs ditch diggers too.

@stephenhosking7384

Жыл бұрын

I'll never forget my first day as general hand in a fruit store. After 30 mins I was thinking "Is it lunch time yet?". Ditto for the other times I've worked in manual labor. An eight hour day feels like an eternity. I worked as an IT contractor for most of my career, on good rates. When I was sixty I started my own business, and discovered how hard it is to make the equivalent of a good salary when you're running your own business. Customers, problems, invoices, selling yourself, suppliers, no such thing as a day off.

"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools".

@johnwalter6410

Жыл бұрын

Roses are red violets are blue. Shit in buckets. Eat with your hands

@emmaccode

Жыл бұрын

Conservatism is literally defined by believing that your current ideas are perfect and don't need to be changed. You can say anyone is a fool, it doesn't make them a fool. A fool to me is someone who is stubborn and doesn't change their ideas with new evidence. For example, someone who believes in young-earth creation despite the overwhelming evidence that says otherwise... Or anyone who really wants to keep unwavered despite changing history and information... Conservatives. I don't understand how you can possibly say " the problem with those on the left is that they think they are right and don't take in new information. They consider themselves too wise to learn new things." when that's like... Your entire ideology...?

@themartialartsapproach8786

Жыл бұрын

Are you referring to principled intellectuals, or these anti-intellectuals?

@zcampbell613

Жыл бұрын

​@@emmaccodelol changing history? Conservatives aren't always about not changing. It's about a smaller government, opening up more free market competition, allowing for more freedom of choice. Maybe just don't blindly believe what some po-mo Marxist professor told you once.

@sanders555

Жыл бұрын

I don't know about the rest of the world, but in America conservatives are pathologically retarded.

I found it amusing that he referred to what he sees as the self-congratulatory nature of the Left and then seamlessly, and unironically, congradulates those who, like him evolved past the intellectualism of the Left to become a conservative intellectual. In a way he reminded me of William F Buckley, in that if not for his sophisticated manner of speaking people would probably openly chuckle at some of his assertions.

@Paul_Hanson

5 ай бұрын

You gave me a good chuckle.

@fabiogarcia5100

5 ай бұрын

What was mind boggling was thr British man’s assertive blanket statement that the left is some how always focused on negativity - this is what an out of touch with reality individual would say when they have zero care to acknowledge what goes on outside their bubble. And the host’s Nazi comparisson was even more mind boggling.. smh

@qwerty9850

5 ай бұрын

You mean to say he is not the Enlightened One? /s

@pippipster6767

5 ай бұрын

He did not in fact congratulate himself, he merely observed it. There is a difference.

@johnschmalbach8243

5 ай бұрын

@@pippipster6767 you literally just summed up the essence of being smugly self- congratulatory. When you create a position of personal superiority and then justify it by saying "it's simply an observation of reality" as one would when observing objectively observable phenomenas, such as a solar flare, You are by definition being self-congratulatory.

Roger is one of the main reason I study the classics. Amazing man.

Scruton was one of our finest intellectuals and if was awful how they treated him in the last couple of years of his life. God rest my friend.

@Highley1958

Жыл бұрын

He was a fucking idiot. Did you even listen to his advice? It was: Stop thinking and you can become a conservative.

@havour907

Жыл бұрын

🤮

@TheFlyingBrain.

Жыл бұрын

Yes. I'd surmise he's going to need that rest. He's got a lot of learning left to do, all uphill I'm afraid, poor soul.

@atodaso1668

Жыл бұрын

@@TheFlyingBrain. I dont think he wanted to lean left anymore, he was smarter than that.

@leehigh_777

Жыл бұрын

This is very sad, thats why trumps and his supporters are successful in their efforts to destroy the USA.

An intellectual is one who has been educated beyond their intelligence.

@sbyrstall

Жыл бұрын

PhD = piled high and deep

@notsuspiciousguy9425

Жыл бұрын

@@sbyrstall So if I get a degree in neuroscience is that worthless? Should we burn all books and go back to caveman times?

@puncherdavis9727

Жыл бұрын

@@notsuspiciousguy9425 I can't speak to Steve's casual mock here. I can say that being "Educated and having PHD" does not mean one was presented a format into which one has critical thinking and discovery episodes. More of being spoon fed systems and ideologies that come off as inconspicuous and not suspect. Doctors and I know some even admit they are not taught to question why the system does what it does..but more along just being the best in that system for a bigger paycheck. Knowledge with wisdom ( knowing the long term consequences) of short term actions can bring into question all education.

@IntellectuallySuperior2U

Жыл бұрын

@@sbyrstall True. lol

@PetersPianoShoppe

Жыл бұрын

You can read Hume, and similar, and be an intellectual without being an ideologue. It takes skepticism and having a sound epistemology that one continually tests.

"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers−out of unorthodoxy.” -George Orwell, 1984

"A little learning can be a dangerous thing"

whenever i question reality, politics, culture, money, man's duality, religion... i always get frustrated at the lack of answers and solutions... seems like every move creates another problem, and there's no way to tell how well solutions play out over a very long period of time. but at least that makes me certain that giving total power and control to a few people isn't the solution, because they don't have this information either, and will just provide a solution that benefits themselves in the end.

@spencerwinston4334

Жыл бұрын

"They all want to get to the throne: that is their madness - as if happiness sat on the throne. Often, mud sits on the throne - and often the throne also on mud. Mad they all appear to me, clambering monkeys and overardent. Foul smells their idol, the cold monster: foul, they smell to me altogether, these idolators. ” ― Friedrich Nietzsche, German, genius philosopher.

@wambokodavid7109

Жыл бұрын

Man we the same here.every time I try to get answers it's just headaches.... that's why I just love life one day at a time.i never used to understand hippies but as time goes and have a friend who is one, I'm starting to think like them in a way.dunno if there has ever even been a black hippie before tho 🤷🏿‍♂️

@nengyang1895

Жыл бұрын

Thomas Sowell said it best. There are no solutions, only trade offs.

@hulahula6182

Жыл бұрын

Just know this, when something bad happens, it's almost always the Juice's fault

@billh2294

Жыл бұрын

Seems to me that we are always fighting against our basic nature. Our tendency to fracture and choose group dynamics over knowledge is the norm and people who attempt to "correct" or control this nature often become the tyrant regardless from which political side they come from. So the pendulum swings from one negative to the other.

In my experience most intellectuals do not want to be told they are wrong but the only way to do that is to reject reality in those cases where they are wrong.

@Kain1805

Жыл бұрын

I'd say that's rather a sign of stupidity. Remember, intelligent ≠ smart

@-TheUnkownUser

Жыл бұрын

That's based on the assumption that they are wrong. And that's a gratitous accusation rather than a correct understanding of a spectrum of views around complex things.

@GSpotter63

Жыл бұрын

@@-TheUnkownUser I clearly indicated that my argument was based on those cases in which they are wrong not somebody's opinion that they may be wrong.... How long have you had this habit of taking people out of context adding your own fault narrative then proceeding to criticize them for your own made up BS? Remember that reality does not conform itself to what we think and believe... It is what it is whether we like it or not....

@-TheUnkownUser

Жыл бұрын

@@GSpotter63 I say that it’s an assumption (read carefully), because, how do you know that they are wrong?

@GSpotter63

Жыл бұрын

@@-TheUnkownUser In many cases the facts of the matter can be confirmed....

Academics are mostly left, not necessarily intellectuals.

06:54 are you saying power corruptes and absolute power does so absolutely?

The demise of book stores, as many, many other brick mortar enterprises, was simply because of the vehicle being the Internet allowing commerce that grew at an explosive rate to locate and purchase documents, papers, publications and books “online”. I too have been one to dismiss receiving my daily newspaper for the convenience of the digital publication.

Intellectuals just think they are smart enough to know what's best for the world.

@mydh122

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, Leftist big-government thinking appeals to their ego and pride. They think that they are morally and intellectually superior to everyone else and therefore all power should be concentrated in their hands. That is also why they despise the limitations that the US Constitution has built into it, and why they (eg. Obama) want to "fundamentally transform" the US government. Their ego also is a main reason why they also rebel against the concept of the Christian God that labels some of their activities as sin and says that they will accountable to God. They want to be their own god and make their own rules.

@Quinceps

5 жыл бұрын

@@mydh122 You mean rightist governments don't impose their shit on others? All fucking governments do.

@tunesmith7437

5 жыл бұрын

So true Bete....let me quote Socrates in agreement: 'It is the wise man who knows when he knows not...and the fool who thinks they know when they do not'.

@aitnobetafaq

5 жыл бұрын

Mostly intellectuals earn a decent living and can afford well build houses in the right neighberhoods. On the other hand i can only afford a shit building where i am the only white guy on the block and get harrasad by muslims and black drug dealers. Its gives a whole other perspective on migrants witch are mostly toughts on the leftist side to make them stay. Unless they will move to a place where i live. Then those choises will decrease rappidly.

@ancientfinn3738

4 жыл бұрын

Intelligence is not the same as maturity, most of them are simply a bit childish.

Thomas Sowell also posits an explanation for why most 'intellectuals' appear to be Left, at least as far as academia goes, in one of his books. I forget which one, but he says the intelligent people of a Conservative, Right disposition tend to be good at making money, business etc.. and so most choose to pursue those goals. What we're left with is a small number of Conservatives and Right wingers who choose to use their intellect for academic pursuits. On the other hand, intelligent people of a Socialist, Left wing disposition are, obviously, opposed to the idea of making money and the business world, so way more of them feel suited to academia where they get to wax lyrical all day long about the virtues of Socialism and the evils of Capitalism. In short, the 'best thinkers' of the Right don't go into academia precisely because their talents would be wasted there. I did a really bad job paraphrasing, but it's something to that effect.

@thecorruptversion

5 жыл бұрын

If that's the point Sowell made, then I agree. And I love the fact that he's not another sheep repating the same "but the IQ...". There are more than 1 type of intelligence.

@jalander8817

3 жыл бұрын

Idk. Silicon Valley is a giant exception. I think there is a tendency for the most creative of the bunch to be more liberal. If they are smart, they hire more conservative people to execute a business strategy for their novel creation.

@a.thales7641

2 жыл бұрын

Truth. I also thought about this yesterday and came up with it. But I guess this is just part of the reason.

@privatejr2702

2 жыл бұрын

@@jalander8817 you might be surprised at how many people in the silicon valley acquiesce to leftist ideas. Speaking up is risky business here.

@Vexas345

2 жыл бұрын

I've never met an intelligent conservative who truly believed what they spouted. There really only are the people at the top, who know what they are pushing is incorrect but helps advance their own selfish goals, and the many more abundant sheep, who all buy into the lies since they don't know any better.

Any mechanic will tell you, don’t fix the parts that aren’t broken. Focus on the things that need mending for the sake of the car and its owner. I guess that thought process makes all mechanics leftists too?

What a great conversation.

"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools" - Romans 1:22

@seanshadrach5197

Жыл бұрын

AMEN!

@greglamothe5942

Жыл бұрын

You are an Intellectual Bible Philosopher.

Most “intellectuals” are deeply compromised by their need to be perceived as intelligent, which is validated though current social consensus. (Ie media, academia, saying THIS is what smart people think) There’s a reason why in so many breakthroughs throughout history, the prevailing consensus is not initially open minded to the breakthrough but rather specifically hostile to it. No one REALLY wants to consider something new at risk of losing status as a “smart person”.

@4Mikes4Mindset4

Жыл бұрын

Bravo buddy. I'm in Northern California near SF and I can't tell you how many times growing up I'd have people so confident they were right that ended up being completely wrong they made me question myself. They didn't bat an eye on being wrong either as something to ponder on. I have had a wild ride seeing the contrast since 2020

@mikmop

Жыл бұрын

Well said. You've hit the nail right on the head. I've taken your idea and reiterated it as the introduction to my own analysis that I've posted here in another comment, which intellectually deflates the views of this so-called intellectual.

@americanalah

Жыл бұрын

Ehhhh no

@Rossdink

Жыл бұрын

There you have it smarty pants, very well put.

@violentnewworld

Жыл бұрын

Universities are creating this kind of person on a mass scale.

I'm not familiar with this man, but just by looking at his photo in the thumbnail I somehow knew a british accent was going to come out of him

If you think you're an intellectual and if you only focus on if you're left or right, you're not an intellectual.

I have never seen an interviewer who is so keen to hear himself talk, and constantly talking over the interviewee, as this guy.

@billhicks8

Жыл бұрын

Distinction worthwhile here: he's good. Yes he interrupts, and possibly too much, but I think he really drills down into the issues the left has. I say this *as* a leftist. We have some problems, and it is rare that I see the challenge produced without hand-wringing, rubbish, or hyperbole.

@PatrickMetzdorf

Жыл бұрын

@@billhicks8 Yes, I like his enthusiasm and he does make good points. But this kind of behaviour is always a bit offputting to me and surely the people he interviews as well.

@mjh5437

Жыл бұрын

@@billhicks8 "I say this as a leftist" is a statement I have never heard uttered with pride before 😁😆😅

@alexallan-musicaaovivo500

Жыл бұрын

90% of all talk shows are like that. I found this one kinda shy...LOL.

@markharris5107

Жыл бұрын

Is this supposed to be an interview, or is it a conversation? If the latter, then the back and forth was acceptable - though I'd have rather heard more from Scruton.

I can't tell you how happy I am to see these up again! Congrats on your remonitization.

@PhilosophyInsights

5 жыл бұрын

How are you so fast :O

@deathbycognitivedissonance5036

5 жыл бұрын

@@PhilosophyInsights Dedicated subscriber. 👍

@stardustgirl2904

5 жыл бұрын

Intellectuals are usually from the left because they're only book smart and not common sense smart and they don't use facts!

@rumproastwitch

5 жыл бұрын

What a treat, missed your uploads ^^

@johnnihil1689

5 жыл бұрын

I consider myself a liberal to a degree, and I've enjoyed this channel for a while. I was wondering where it went. At least these political discussions are classy and civilized, unlike the so called leaders of both the left and right.

"... as if you'd never thought at all..." says it all, really

Many, if not most intellectuals have gone straight from high school to uni and stayed there. They have never really ventured beyond the cloister. It is their safe space with no bullies, no one challenges them. They are frightened by the world and have never really thrown themselves into it.

Just because someone is somewhat articulate with their speech and believes the current popular thing doesn't make them an "intellectual".

@a7xSkateboarding

6 ай бұрын

Right, it just means they can retain information and regurgitate it. Not very original, and it often comes down to brownie points. It's the safe way to live life

An intellectual is not necessarily intelligent. Don’t confuse education with intelligence

@kartoffelman111

Жыл бұрын

This interview cements that fact. What a pointless waste of time this was, not a single argument for or against either cause. At best, this video is another thing that people with the highschool jock-mentality can send to theri friends to make fun of those who disagree with them, since they fail to notice there is no argument made in the entire video. Just a longwinded claim that liberals are stupid without any explanation whatsoever.

@mittromney8750

Жыл бұрын

most educated people in todays time tend to be missing intelligence

@Jay122789

Жыл бұрын

Education helps but I like to believe that true intelligence is when someone not only learns, but utilizes what they learn.

@Boris82

Жыл бұрын

@@Jay122789 We now live in a world where 'smart' educated people (often young) push lgbtq gender ideology. So they learned something completely unreal and they are actively spreading it as if it's real. Sometimes education is miseducation.

@Jay122789

Жыл бұрын

@@Boris82 I wouldn't consider lgbtq ideology to be unintellectual but more as a belief. Like, someone can believe in Christian values but still be intelligent, it's the same as lgbtq ideology. Just like Christians, they are trying to enforce their beliefs upon society. And I don't mean that as an attack on Christians, but that's my best analogy.

We are not lead by intelligence, we are lead by our faith and our hearts. People that want to know everything end up missing the point.

@carlosmourgues7884

6 ай бұрын

And yet people that want to know everything are also following their hearts, for their hearts are what lead them to the pursuit of knowledge.

Holy shit the smooth brain conversation hahaha

11:10-11:54 this bit here was really beautiful. RIP Sir Roger Scruton

@miovicdina7706

Жыл бұрын

I was going to say that. So glad to find your comment. 🧡 I'd add that what he said about the so-called left needing to hate what's wrong vs the so-called right finding ways to celebrate and defend what's right and good, is true. (On top of his whole statement about it being indeed beautiful, as you said.)

@gennette22

Жыл бұрын

He put words to it so well.

I wouldn't call those professor's teaching gender studies in university intellectual.

The thing about being intelligent versus being an 'intellectual' is that intelligent people usually don't go join a special club that revolves around bragging about how 'smart' or 'educated' you are. In fact some of the world's most captivating geniuses like Albert Einstein or Isaac Newton were extremely asocial or insecure people most of there lives.

Dignified and euphoric feelings. That dopamine rush is what they’re after.

Conservative Intellectual with a British Accent on KZread: "It's all about the feels really, now isn't it?"

@david7384

6 ай бұрын

cope and seethe

"We need DO SOMETHING!" -everyone who never bothered to think a situation all the way thru.

@TrophyGuide101

Жыл бұрын

Sums up climate change protestors, their actions turn the public against them but they continue anyway because 'we have to do something'

@nathanielhellerstein5871

Жыл бұрын

We must do something. This is something. Therefore we must do this.

@user-rq8xx8ir9t

Жыл бұрын

so do nothing then? i mean thats the opposite of doing something

@kekxeter3505

Жыл бұрын

@@user-rq8xx8ir9t it is easier to make things worse than to make them better. grand problems are very complicated and need to be thought through before demanding action

@monkeydavefraud

Жыл бұрын

Doing is action. Thinking is inaction. They work together.

"if you think a bit longer and harder about it, you'll MOVE BACK to what you would have been IF YOU HAD NEVER THOUGHT AT ALL, and that's my view as to what an intellectual conservative is." Indeed, Scruton, indeed. 1:06

The flaw in the argument here, is that it confuses left and right with those in control and those in opposition. If you live in a place that has more leftish values (scandinavia), then you can value those things it grants and want to keep that, as opposed to want to change away from something you dislike, and in such a way you can end up with some kind of conservative leftish point of view. The more healthy form of the left makes use of "that variant over there works, why can we also not be compariable compasionate to each other here". In a sense, the left is more about compasion for each other, whereas the right is more about shielding from the influence and demands of others.

"Of course there is wrong. But there is also beauty and right '

Never confuse education with intelligence.

@julianwynne8705

Жыл бұрын

Really, NEVER?

@michaelcap9550

Жыл бұрын

@@julianwynne8705 The left will never under stand.

@valkymia3708

Жыл бұрын

@@julianwynne8705 Yes. Intelligence is self-evident when challenged; as pride, ego and hubris yield towards greater understanding. Education when challenged relies solely on its own credentials. Pride, ego and hubris are the main motivators as being 'incorrect' is a threat to the veracity and certification of being 'educated'. Educated will retain falsehoods in order to preserve their status. Intelligent people seek greater understanding despite potentially being humiliated and discredited. Don't be educated, seek truth.

@user-gu7lv9gk8m

11 ай бұрын

Never confuse Christianity with love

@pm2785

11 ай бұрын

@@user-gu7lv9gk8m Never take religious advice from someone who's barely opened the book.

Wowwwww..... I'm so grateful this was recommended in my feed!! I enjoyed this immensely!!! Especially the general perspective of both "sides" of the political spectrum.

@CCDR07

Жыл бұрын

I think you've had the wool pulled over your eyes if you think these people portrayed both "sides" of the political spectrum... Rather, I'd argue that their mis-characterization of "left" wing politics as a politic driven by a destructive desire to seize power and correct "the negative right" is a load of bullocks!!! For example. if anything, I'd say it's modern "right wing" politicians and ideologues who trade in, amplify, and manufacture grievances to manipulate people and achieve their political aims. Look at Trump, "let's make america great again!"... i.e. a narrative wherein here we all are suffering reduced standards of living, low wages, immigrants taking all our jobs, curtailment of "freedoms", etc., all due to the nefarious influence of "the deep state" and a leftist elite (whatever that is, he's sure not going to admit that it's oligarchs with deep pockets and entrenched wealth/power subverting democratic institutions). Vote Trump and I'll make us great again, and you won't have to continue suffering! Farage, Johnson, and fellow Brexiters are exactly the same! "Take back control", i.e. here's poor, beleaguered Britain being oppressed by a European elite, making us spend money on upholding universal human rights, accepting immigrants, enforcing environmental protections, workers rights, and other "leftist" bureaucratic nonsense. We'll take back control and these injustices and suffering will end. We can fish how we like, farm how we like, administer justice how we like, etc... If this isn't a politics of grievance used to manipulate and manufacture support, I don't know what is!? I suggest these two people in the video who have "thought a bit harder" should go and do a bit more thinking about how the creation of a left vs right political divide in modern western society only serves the interests of entrenched power and wealth. They have become strawman political positions used to divide people along non-material emotional, cultural, and identity lines, which prevent people from uniting along class lines, which is exactly where the real fight and struggles need to occur to maintain relatively equal access to material resources, justice, influence on the political process, safe and fair environments and work places, etc. If you ask me the discussion these two are having here only serves the needs of entrenched wealth and power by mis-characterizing left wing theory and action and spewing smoke screens (e.g., somehow representing the one party dictatorship that were the nazi's as some kind of left wing movement). What we should all be seeking is levelling the amount of political influence different people/groups have (in many different spheres of life) so that we can achieve greater autonomy, fairness, and justice for our citizens. Whether you feel traditional, conservative, liberal, anarchist, or whatever. It's not about left or right, it's about achieving an equitable distribution of political power so that people can sort out their governance institutions and laws themselves without coercian (social, environmental, material, or physical/violence). I don't necessarily always appreciate this guys language, but this youtube channel provides some very good, practical, analysis of political positions and movements in general. kzread.info/dash/bejne/gmeXz8yHoru9ndY.html

@onesong2001

Жыл бұрын

Your "spectrum" has two sides. 🤣

Fear not the man who does not know, For that man can think and grow, Fear the zealot who "knows" what's true For there is no horror he will not do.

Growing up as a kid I always looked up to and admired university professors and such Until I got there then I lost all respect There was a geography professor he could tell you all the different layers of the earth a nd such talked him out of the class room he had a hard time getting down town on the buss Every friday night there was a party going on some where the professors would show up as if they ruled the place got drunk and started hitting on the women So much for my " artsy fartsy days "

I've got a little different take because I can see the same Dynamic on both the left and the right manifesting once achieving a certain level of power. Powerful people are surrounded buy those seeking power who tell them whatever they think they want to hear instead of being honest and truthful which leaves the powerful person deprived of a full understanding of things which doesn't pair well with the fact that Power and Corruption seem to be inseparably entangled and directly proportional.

I disagree. Academics yes...intellectuals ? No

@pipsantos6278

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly. When mental lightweights have no intellectual niche so they resort to something they can't be dominated on. Something which intellectuals will not agree with. Which translate to them dominating their on field not because they have the best minds for it, but because the best minds decided it's freakin looney.

@andrews4596

5 жыл бұрын

Hippy subverters~~~~

@andrews4596

5 жыл бұрын

It's a lust for mans praise, that acceptance of Satan's lie, and the darkness that follows into degeneracy of anarchism/communist chipping away at society as a Christian moral based society.

@sebastiaosalgado1979

4 жыл бұрын

You're correct. They're just "pseudo-intellectuals".

@TheWorldTeacher

4 жыл бұрын

MrHat Respected British anthropology professor, Dr. Edward Dutton, has demonstrated that “LEFTISM” is due to genetic mutations caused by poor breeding strategies. To put it simply, in recent decades, those persons who have leftist traits such as egalitarianism, socialism, multiculturalism, homosexuality, perverse morality and laziness, have been reproducing at rates far exceeding the previous norm, leading to a recent explosion of insane, narcissistic sociopaths in (mostly) Western societies.

'You'll move back to what you would have been, if you never thought at all.' Love it.

"There are things that are deeply wrong in the world". Once one gains power, punishment is not the way to go about "fixing" those wrongs. History testifies to that.

@thebigpicture2032

6 ай бұрын

Maybe let Trump know that.

@lifeisagift.cherisheverymoment

6 ай бұрын

@@thebigpicture2032 Haven't you been paying attention? Trump can't be told anything.

@thebigpicture2032

6 ай бұрын

@@lifeisagift.cherisheverymoment True enough. Revenge 2024 coming up.

The reason is simple: because they’ve never worked as a carpenter, and have never learned what it means to earn an honest living.

[An intellectual conservative is] "Someone who articulates the real reasons for not having reasons, but just feeling and doing what's right" whereas "it's not often you find someone on the left who looks around and finds things that he loves, it's always something that's gone wrong, something that is even hateful". Discuss (without using the word 'bollocks').

You know, this is really just an old principle being put in modern terms. Our culture used to call this "being thankful," and it was important to us to be grateful for the good things in our lives, no matter what hardships we faced. If there is one thing that the critical theorists lack, it is gratitude.

@THEWittebol

Жыл бұрын

Is the glass half full or half empty... that's the question indeed.

@augustday9483

Жыл бұрын

In fact it feels like critical theorists are expressly UN-grateful for the good things in our lives. Modern political philosophy is all about "stolen indigenous land", "systemic racism", "generational inequality", and any other buzzwords you can think of to describe this basic thesis: that western civilization should be ashamed of its own existence, and must dismantle itself to right this wrong. "Give up everything your ancestors built for you and die in a ditch", they say.

@bradchambers5886

Жыл бұрын

​@@THEWittebol The glass is always full. Half of it is water and half of it is air. Though the air is invisible, it is far more vital than the water.

@conditionallyunconditional5691

Жыл бұрын

They lack wisdom.

@rhuttrho88

Жыл бұрын

​@@THEWittebol Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Whooooooosh!🤦🏿‍♂️😁👍🏿👋🏿

Roger Scrutin's observations that, "You'll move back to what you would have been if you had never thought at all," or that an intellectual conservative is "someone who articulates the real reasons for not having reasons - but just feeling and doing what's right," strike me as inane deepities. "The purely negative approach to the status quo is simply going to perpetuate this negativity," Scruton says. This may be true, but the approach from the left, or from the right, for that matter, is not purely negative. He strawmans the left to the point of caricature. "The typical conservative .... looks around himself and he finds things that he loves. ... . It's not often that you find someone on the left that looks around and finds something that he loves. It's alway something that has gone wrong." He says this as a conservative, sitting with another conservative, talking about the things that have gone wrong. It’s almost baffling myopea and not an accurate reflection of either left or right. The interviewer talks about 'their' attacks on capitalism and rails against "Genuine injustice in the world, on a daily basis." His example? Bookstores. The teen section has stuff about vampires and "really wierd occultic stuff," not like The Hardy Boys or Nancy Drew Mysteries, when he was a lad. Here, at least, Scruton visibly squirms. "It's very corrosive ideas," the interviewer continues. "Who's picking their books?" he asks. Well, sir, it's that capitalism you champion. It's what sells. Scruton asks. "What power is advancing behind that?" and then asserts that simply asking the question necessitatate that "you ... disappear from the picture" or that, "what you said disappears from the picture." Apparently just asking the question about power necessitates the exclusion of truth. Why? Why does asking this question exclude the possibility of truth? He doesn't say.

@iTzKneecap

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I found many of the statements attempts to point a finger at what they deem morally wrong through phrasing that implies their sense of morality is objective fact, and anyone who sees it differently is simply ignorant, when the statements laid out are based on generalizations and a lack of deeper analyzation of the roots of what they deem bad (i.e the teen novels). The implication is that there's some liberal(?) conspiracy to make kids read stuff about the occult? That's arguably an insane conclusion. That and the mention of people on the left never finding things they love - that is so far removed from reality. All people have things they love. Why do people fight against the powers which cause climate change? They love nature, they love people, and they want all those things to thrive in a better world, which is what everything can be summed up to. The attention to the negative is necessary to then create more positive in the world. They believe people should remain content with what they have, continuing the status quo despite the tragedies happening in the world, and doing nothing to make life better overall. Just because the world has beauty, doesn't mean we should ignore the ugly. If we did so, we would allow the bad to thrive and grow until one day we end up in a world that has regressed, one which loses the beauty we had once had the chance to appreciate.

@HellsYeah8

Жыл бұрын

How is that not an apt description of the two? When I do find things that have gone wrong, its usually the result of those on the left

@bighead8017

Жыл бұрын

All it takes is an observant eye and an ear to listen. But I doubt you’ll find any engagement from any of these echo chamber KZread channels. Just take a look at the top comments. “Conservative intellectuals” have a strength in their vagueness. Isn’t it the responsibility of intellectuals to question the status quo? Here Scrutton desperately wants to save the status quo from the supposed “purely negative approach to the status quo” and the “lefty who can’t find anything to love”. What a cursory and crude way to characterize a movement committed to real intellectualism

@wilsonsilva2918

Жыл бұрын

Bump

@HellsYeah8

Жыл бұрын

@@bighead8017 Real intellectualism requires diversity of thought. The left is a hive mind