Of all the truly commendable academics and philosophers that this channel has introduced me to, sir Roger strikes me as the most effective in the sense that he appears to stringently uphold the values and requirements of good science whilst also allowing himself to extend the reaches of what he’s willing to postulate.

@SamoaVsEverybody814

Ай бұрын

Which is exactly what Einstein described as good science; going to the outer reaches of what's known, then extending it a touch further (paraphrasing)

@falsificationism

Ай бұрын

concur

@jdavidkatz

16 күн бұрын

His "aeon" theory is nothing more than the very ancient "turtles all the way down" phenomenon. It's not science. It's laughable on its face. What is driving these processes? How did they come into being? Did they pop out of nothing? Have they been going on "forever"? It's all utter nonsense.

"Beginning" is a concept intrinsic to the time factor.

@andrewmasterman2034

Ай бұрын

Yup, as is the conecept of an end or any measurable point in between.

@nickb220

28 күн бұрын

indubitably

The JWT forces us to appreciate how little we know about that which we love to speculate endlessly ...

Sir Roger talking about discussing the Steady State Model with his mates at University feels like a time capsule 😂

whose idea was it to employ the sea sick camera?

@OutHereOnTheFlats

Ай бұрын

its terrible - i couldn't😮 watch - just had to listen

@smokie01uk

Ай бұрын

I got a minute into the video n had to stop. Only here to search for other comments that noticed to 😂😂

@KamramBehzad

Ай бұрын

Hmmm. Did not notice it until you pointed it out. Interesting.

@kidmohair8151

Ай бұрын

@@KamramBehzad maybe it's an age specific thing. I'm old.

@2x3x7

14 күн бұрын

Incredibly distracting, I had to stop as well

Keep the camera still! I feel nauseous.

That first paragraph of that famous book. Just keeps getting more & more curious to me.

@CameraNostalgiaClub

Ай бұрын

How does it go?

Thank you very much for the video. "Wonderful reality" so far ❤❤

@donaldkasper8346

Ай бұрын

Really? I feel like a WWII prisoner of war in Germany, lined up against a wall and machine gunned with infinity declarations to explain everything. All of his collapses of logic come from that use. For example, nothing means no mass and no energy and no other particle existence, so how does nothing become something? This proposes for example that nothing is unstable. Then he adds that existence is unstable. Well okay, make something from nothing in a lab and then turn it back into nothing if this is the case. Second, cycling existence does not answer how the first existence from nothing got here. Einsteins relativity says a particle in motion is energy, and so it would have a frequency, but a mass at rest doesn't. So his equivalences were false. Lastly, how motion exists is not explained by such a model. Motion relates to time, not mass. We grab masses to study motion to get units of time, but time is motion, not mass.

when searching the space for galaxies and stars we are actually seeing only the galactic structures that have existed during the time segment (temporal frame) that matches our distance from them... we can't observe younger or older star structures beyond that window of possibility... so, what we see in the most remote corners of the universe is not the complete picture but rather one segment of existence during which light has traveled and has reached us in the present... also, recently universe is thought to have diferent rates of expansion in different directions 🤔

@amraly9640

Ай бұрын

Please don't write about science again. What the hell? !!! 😂😂 All what you just said is that we are looking into the past.

@r2c3

Ай бұрын

@@amraly9640 not exactly... you have to use your own understanding more often... what I'm saying is that watching a video of your own birthday party, says nothing about how you were born and what caused you to sing your favorite song... that's all...

@NafeDev-yo4lo

Ай бұрын

We are humans with only 5 senses which we evolved to give us the best chance of survival and reproduction, but not to understand all aspects of the reality we exist in. We can only create tools that allow us to use these 5 primitive senses. Who knows how many things we can't observe and are off limits to us?

@r2c3

Ай бұрын

@@NafeDev-yo4lo that's exactly the point...

Thank you Robert for dumbing this fascinating stuff down a bit. Wow.

@drbonesshow1

Ай бұрын

Wish you weren't here.

My favorite modern scientific mind

People are not thinking about the problem correctly. The question is: Is the natural state of the universe "something" or "nothing". And to that I think we can say with 100% certainty that we've really never had any good evidence for nothing. Even if you did assume time began at the big bang that means the variables that allow for time to come into existence existed and however material or immaterial those variables are - They are not nothing if they are required for everything.

@willdoe7681

Ай бұрын

Exactly. Or to elaborate. Nothing can emerge from nothing because nothing has nothing to act upon. We exist therefore existence is the default state. What is always was and always will be in one form or another.

@NafeDev-yo4lo

Ай бұрын

​@@willdoe7681 We're eternal beings. The matter that makes up our existence has no beginning and no end. There's something poetic about that.

@por4atko

Ай бұрын

We only wish that was the case. In truth science knows with a pretty big certainty that we come from nothing and that we’re a cosmic throw of the dice that never should have happened. Before the Big Bang the universe was nothing - a field of quantum possibilities never to come into manifestation as they don’t have anything to interact with - all of them all in superpositions all at once. However since it is a field of infinite possibilities one of those is that two particles could collide in a superposition. That is the Big Bang, matter manifested. We’re born from the eternal abyss and we’re heading straight back to it as the universe cools down and collapses onto itself. Just an eternal void with nothing ever happening ever again.

@ngcastronerd4791

Ай бұрын

​@@NafeDev-yo4loyou could say the energy is eternal... possibly. Not the matter. We can trace back the creation of the elements that make up your body

@user-hu6rr1gc7u

Ай бұрын

The universe is a creation and hence only exists if the forces holding it in place continue. That is a thought. It is not reality the place where we exist always.

Please ask Penrose if the fine structure constant is the remnant of a former Aeon that , with time , form a basis for proof for his theory. Thanks😊

It's the old philosophical question of the "First Cause". At this point, it's clearly beyond human understanding.

@Bobalicious

Ай бұрын

'First Cause' seems to me a problem for a child's mind.

@jago76

Ай бұрын

Read a littke pholosophy, if you have an open mind. Otherwise, gfoodbye.@@Bobalicious

@genghisthegreat2034

Ай бұрын

@@Bobalicious and yet great philosophers have debated that question, and thought deeply upon it, despite no longer being adequately equipped with a child's mind.

@tonyatkinson2210

Ай бұрын

So far … we may one day discover it

@PeterS123101

Ай бұрын

The alternative is a universe with a infinite past.

Eons between black holes merging, and when they merge another eon happens within. The big bang is not a bang, but an implosion, which is really just a hyper sphere twisting and rotating.

Just happy to be alive and watching this discussion. I do believe that existence is eternal and has no need for a creator.

@mavelous1763

24 күн бұрын

I’m always amazed that even nonbelievers refer to a creator, and not the potential for creators…… thus polytheism. It’s just as plausible as monotheism

I see the eternal creation structured in the Mandelbrot Theory.

Two people I watch every time they come on no matter what… Roger Penrose and Paul Davies

Sir Roger is right on. He is The Man.

The biggest evidence of a beginning at least of sorts is that there is a certain amount and type of Red Dwarves, an older Universe would have older different Red Dwarves.

How does one take the whole universe and 'just' transform it into its reciprocal? 1/Universe = BigBang? What's the physical process allowing it to happen? Mindboggling... Definitely food for thought.

But considering that ideas of beginning and ending are human constructs, what if the end of the current universe is its own beginning, an enclosed cycle?

As difficult as it is for minds that have a beginning and an end to comprehend the reality is that something must have had no beginning, and presumably no end, otherwise it is just a series of Russian dolls that STILL must have had either no beginning or else appeared out of nothing and is then into nothing.

@abhisheksing8379

Ай бұрын

You are so right! Perhaps the answer lies in the concepts like infinity and eternity (which is infinity in the context of time). We just can't comprehend infinity. For our minds, it is just a mathematical, theoretical concept.

@iamfunnyipromise9605

Ай бұрын

“It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man. With the proof now in place, cosmologists can no longer hide behind the possibility of a past-eternal universe. There is no escape: they have to face the problem of a cosmic beginning.” - Alexander Vilenkin I agree with you, but according to the scientific data we have (as Vilenkin said), the universe has not been here forever, it had a beginning and will most probably have an end. We know that something cannot come into existence without a cause, right? Nothing produces nothing. So, something else, something different than the universe must have caused it into existence and that entity must itself be eternal, without beginning and end, as you stated.

The ΛCDM model assumes that general relativity is the correct theory of gravity on cosmological scales. It can be extended by incorporating other areas of speculation and research in cosmology, such as cosmological inflation and quintessence

Paul Steinhardt wrote an interesting alternative book, "Endless Universe" counter to the BigBang...we are all more naive than we would like to admit... (human nature)....Roger has a wonderful 'British Style' which makes his Planck's and Einstein's and other current definitions of meters, time, etc. are very informative for physics majors....

i'm not sure if aeons is correct, but it does solve a lot of problems, and i don't see anything wrong with saying that at "the end of time" the universe, although expanded to some kind of maximum, has no size. sir roger says that as only photons are left, they travel at the speed of light, from a photons point of view it's existence take no time, and the distance it travels is meaningless because it takes no time, and so, even if the universe is now infinity big, size is meaningless, it is also infinitely small, and we have conditions for a (another) big bang.

Yes

@glacieractivity

Ай бұрын

Thank you for providing the correct answer.

I had this short-thunk theory, 'round 25 years back, about cyclicity - I swear Its not me who started this, I'm sure we can find somebody who'd have thunk it long before I did - which cycles ended with some ultimate being(s) writing some kind of deterministic information into the ending world to try and nudge the next iteration as they would see appropriate, necessary,... - I don't know what can be the adjective at that stage. My friend typically responded, as any Fire sign would, that he'd want to be that being ! Personally (I am a Libra) I feel like I'd appreciate more the opportunity to look back at the whole thing and see what's what from that point, rather then to try at the changing of things, though, maybe, the sight might motivate me to somehow do something about something, but that's just rhetoric, hey, that'll never be "me", my will come long before that !

Mass and frequency are equivalents ! Sounds delicious !

Never started and will never end

When was this recorded? 7 days ago or 12 years ago?

@huhuruz77

Ай бұрын

12 years ago, all videos are very old.

I wonder what Professor Penrose makes of an experiment conducted by the BBC science unit some years ago in which they used the microwave background radiation to see whether the universe is unbounded or bounded in the four dimensions. The result was indeed a cosmos unbounded in the three dimensions of space and one of time. It did not begin and has no edge they said. Werner Heisenberg said once "the Universe isn't as strange as we can imagine but it is far stranger than we can imagine".

In the 1930s , Fritz Zwicky said that the regularity of the Coma cluster of galaxies,if brought about by gravitational relaxation,implied that the universe must be much, much older than the current values usually given,about 13-20 billion years..Chandrasekhar pioneered gravitational relaxation in 1943. It was James Clerk Maxwell who first addressed the concept of relaxation of non-equilibrium systems.

@mavelous1763

24 күн бұрын

Maxwell was a smart cookie. VERY smart

After this video I went back and derived the equations - watch out for sign errors - and Sir Penrose is right! It makes a heckuva a lot of sense!

I am struggling to find when he says *how* things change from massless infinite expansion to a compact 'big bang' into the next aeon

@KamramBehzad

Ай бұрын

I see it as a fractal.

@mavelous1763

24 күн бұрын

He explained it in reference to equations that justify it. No mass, no ‘time’, size is irrelevant……funky stuff happens

@SuperChickenBurgers

21 күн бұрын

@@mavelous1763 That makes sense now actually. Since space and time are linked, if there is no time then there is no space.

...Each and everyone of Man, are Special, having different fingerprints, even Identical Twins. How marvelous, respectfully, Chuck...captivus brevis...you tube...Blessings... . .

Don't know what is more blowing my mind; eternity - or aiming that all had a beginning and an end. I think Eternity. Especially when going far.......................

I've been doing a ton of video editing over the last year. This isn't a criticism it's just a, huh? Why did you blur the first 10 seconds of the video? Because he used the word focus? 🤔

What an amazing person. Thx so much for explaining :) Infinity hmm :)

i don't see a date for when this was recorded, i don't think this is recent is it?

It's hard to picture a time *before* when in the supposed infinite mass of singularity time was practically not moving. So no *before*, only an ever evolving, accelerating *after*. Is this a legitimate assumption?

So, the entire sequence of aeons is kind of like "punctuated equilibrium." 🤔

Maybe the Universe is divided into parts that started at separate times. What is the 'universe' exactly?

There is no sign that reality has any ultimate beginning. Beginnings and endings are literary devices only, stories are just the way we describe reality to ourselves. Time is not an underlying grid against which we can judge everything, reality extends beyond it.

"Dark matter/energy is likely just black holes, which some cosmologists estimate, outnumber visible stars, galaxies, etc.

I am developing initial conceptual designs for a graphic novel with much of Sir Roger Penrose 's hypothetical cyclic system . The Book is a dark fantasy! ♤♤♤

this is my favourite scientist. i also think the same way he does.

There is no mention yet of how light or time are altered by light passing through time. Both allegedly have presence, like substance, but noone has questioned whether or not light affects time, plenty of theories about light not experiencing time. This can't be right. If light can move objects by striking them, it has mass, inertia. If things age, then time also has mass, inertia and can affect matter (nuclear decay)... Please explain this discrepancy between observable physical phenomenon and scientific inquiry?, seems solving for what time actually is, it's kinda important to science.

Beginning and end are relative to something that exists between that beginning and end. I am not sure that it is meaningful to ask about what happens outside that time interval unless one can contemplate something that exists outside that time interval. If we cannot do that then how do we define time because time requires measuring change in something, and we do not have any idea at all what that something is (before the big bang). What I mean is that perhaps the question is meaningless in that there is no meaningful answer that will be satisfactory.

How did the monotonous rejuvenation of universes begin?

@brianwilson7624

Ай бұрын

Your question presumes "there was once nothing" which I assume comes from your religious upbringing. There is no evidence that there was once nothing and then something. As it were, something (rather than nothing) is likely the natural state of the universe.

@NafeDev-yo4lo

Ай бұрын

Something coming from absolute nothingness is far stranger than an eternal something. @@brianwilson7624

@peweegangloku6428

Ай бұрын

​@@brianwilson7624Your assumption about my question is totally wrong. I don't believe that there was ever a state of absolute nothingness. On the other hand, to claim that a system expands to total dissipation spare photons and later reassemble (re-emerge) forces, hence raw materials, as postulated in CCC, describes an unstable system that is subject to obliteration. Such a system could hardly have existed eternally. An eternally existing system will be methodically unyielding and perfectly stable.

@brendynmiller239

Ай бұрын

​@@brianwilson7624what do you assume immediately that because he is asking a legitimate question that he has a religious upbringing? Do you know him personally? If not, it appears you are making assumptions and discriminating against these kinds of questions based on your anti religious personal views

If we can look back at previous universes, is it similar to the current universe or is there a law that states it must be different and do not repeat events/certain events?

@NafeDev-yo4lo

Ай бұрын

Even if each new Universe is different / random, there may be trillions of different Universes after ours, but if this process goes on forever which I think is likely, then a Universe identical to ours will appear again, with matter arranged exactly as it is now. And if consciousness is a biological phenomenon, then its likely we've experienced our lives the same way infinite times before and will do infinite times again.

@AfsanaAmerica

Ай бұрын

@@NafeDev-yo4lo but if the universe is infinite then there are infinite combinations.

@AfsanaAmerica

Ай бұрын

​@@NafeDev-yo4lobut if the universe is infinite then there are infinite combinations.

@NafeDev-yo4lo

Ай бұрын

@@AfsanaAmerica That's true. And we would experience all those combinations too, infinitely.

@AfsanaAmerica

Ай бұрын

@@NafeDev-yo4lo A person would have to be immortal/infinite to do that.

The part that I understand is the infiniteness of the "older Universes" and the way that size becomes almost redefined or non-existent in these. The part that is mind-boggling is that it leads me to picturing space as we know it being somewhat like a fractal, but more like a breath that expands and deflates.

@xl5man

Ай бұрын

One ancient philosophical idea was that the universe was like a ‘giant ‘ cell that oscillated over eons of time from a small size .. expanding until all the energy was at the peripheral then contracting.. all the energy gradually moving to the centre again .. like a magnet whose centre alternates between positive and negative states …

For us to explain the beginning of the universe is like a blind person, who has never had eyesight, describing the color 'green'. If we were equally as blind, the discussion would seem a waste of time to many but some might find comfort in believing that they understand the color green.

No big bang, no start, no finish. Universes are constantly passing through each other occasionally causing another Universes and all in the eternal moment of NOW. In this single moment there are infinite dimensions giving the illusion of linear time. 💥

@mavelous1763

24 күн бұрын

Infinite dimensions? They can’t even prove more than 4, thus string theory problems

Maybe the universe was built in stages? First BB brought about the dark vastness of space. The second BB brought enigmatic forces. The third BB gave it dimensions. The fourth BB saw it littered with black holes. The fifth BB produced our CMB and the visible matter needed to create all we see before us today?

O Divine Architect of the Cosmos, In the vastness of Your universe, we find a sacred seed, A genesis that mirrors the Tree of Life in its boundless grace. We stand in awe of the cosmic tapestry You have woven, Where science and scripture intertwine in a dance of divine revelation. We thank You for the knowledge that sprouts from this celestial seed, For the wisdom that grows like branches reaching towards the heavens. May we pursue understanding with the humility of those who came before, Acknowledging our place in the grand design of Your creation. Guide us in our quest to decode the mysteries of the stars, To comprehend the laws that govern the ballet of celestial bodies. Let the pursuit of truth be our holy communion, And the discoveries we make, a hymn of praise to Your name. Bless us with the insight to see Your hand in every atom, And the discernment to weave integrity into our scholarly endeavors. May the unity of knowledge and belief be our guiding star, Leading us to a deeper appreciation of the symphony of existence. Amen.

love it

0.. static.. or a roar as in unrefined words or forms.. The primordial mud at the bottom of a pond which the lilly seeks to rise above

@11-AisexualsforGod-11

2 ай бұрын

The indeterminate as I guess was known to to the Platonists

What was the first thing to ever die ?

This man is a God who walks among us. We are lucky as a species to have such a wonderful mind share itself with everyone.

Exponential expansion of Universe in all directions on 3-dimensional sphere S^3 with eventual loss of mass of matter must led to a radiation loops that are closing on themselves, i.e. to a singularity.

@nyckhusan2634

Ай бұрын

Cycles of eons cold be : B (bubble)^0 ( singularity)> B^1( time born)- boundary S^0(string)>B^2-S1(disc)> B^3-S^2(2-D sphere)>B^4-S^3( 3-D sphere)>B^0. We live on 3-D sphere X^2+Y^2+Z^2+t^2=1

@SHADOW.GGG-

27 күн бұрын

@@nyckhusan2634 made up words made up numbers

I dont belive the universe has a end, i mean does it just stop at a certain point? Can we not move past a certain point? I highley doubt it but hey im not expert

I understood some of these words.

@mavelous1763

24 күн бұрын

Lmfao!

It's waves from one to another a political wave a mobile wave etc and even being blessed by someone is a wave❤❤🎉🎉

Why Penrose's CCC keep producing the same universe over and over again, may have an explanation in Lee Smolin's landscape that make possible for natural selection tat produce better living conditions with better fine tuned constants of the parameter space. In the next Aeon we may have a more intelligent life form.

I could go into this in depth but at a later time, perhaps. It's correct, regardless of when it's done. So let's look at the great attractors as prior events to our own blacksphere event. Or Andromeda's blacksphere event. I don't believe we would be here without those prior events happening. It trickles down and up from our perspective, really. I also believe we will find more of these great attractors as our ability to peer improves. It's an exciting time right now in science, I think. And with EMFSYSTEMS just getting started, the future is quite bright for the next generation of scientific research and discovery. EMFSYSTEMS will be leading us into the infinite ♾️ vacuum space. Wanna go for a ride? Peace ✌️ 😎.

As always is the case, the distinguished gentleman tells us how the universe may have grown--not how it began. The universe is physical and material. No matter how infinitesimal it might have been once, it was still physical and material. All things material had a measurable beginning. I, too, would like to know how something material that was not there in one instance, was suddenly there in another instance.

I’m smart enough to know this: I like this Penrose guy!

What is the nature of a point?

@DarkSkay

Ай бұрын

Renting a house with an address, but no rooms

@Ellier215

Ай бұрын

@@DarkSkayohhhh! That’s a good one.

Argument by infinite regression... doesn't solve anything only moves the problem deeper.

@pmm1963

19 күн бұрын

Exactly. This theory it's a postulate evading the real debate.

How does Penrose explain Entropy increasing and decreasing in his cyclic universe theory…?

@wthomas5697

2 ай бұрын

Infinite time and space allow for patterns to develop, even against the probability of randomness.

@skwalka6372

2 ай бұрын

I think entropy gets reset in the conformal mapping that connects the eons. When you emerge from one semi-infinite into the start of another semi-infinite period, the mapping interprets the infinitely dissorderly state of the previous eon into a refeference state for the current eon. That is how I understand it.

@helderalmeida2790

2 ай бұрын

​@@skwalka6372Aeon!

@zacatkinson3926

2 ай бұрын

@@wthomas5697it’s definitely not infinite

@AliothAncalagon

Ай бұрын

Basically the "Law of truly large numbers". Entropy does increase and decrease all the time. A large decrease is simply not very likely. But if you wait long enough even the most unlikely scenario will eventually happen, as long as its not entirely impossible.

10:28 'Why was that structure there? If there was nothing before (the big bang) its hard to answer that question' Indeed it's hard to answer because of a presupposition of a natural material worldview bias.

@deanodebo

2 ай бұрын

That’s exactly right. And ironically the materialist can’t actually justify the external world. Nor can they justify logic, numbers, etc Oh but they’re happy to use them

@zacatkinson3926

Ай бұрын

There is something before it’s not understood fully yet

@deanodebo

Ай бұрын

@@zacatkinson3926 “before” doesn’t make sense with relativity. But I don’t claim relativity is true. What makes you think there’s a “before”?

@AppealToTheStoned

Ай бұрын

No need to 'justify' an external world,@@deanodebo If one exists, 'material' science is the way to understand it. If one does not exist, the materialist is in precisely the same untenable position as everyone else.

@deanodebo

Ай бұрын

@@AppealToTheStoned fair enough. What are numbers made of? Let’s take 3. What is 3 made of, and where is it?

Two incredibly intellectuals!!!! Einstein and Sir Pennrose

@abhisheksing8379

Ай бұрын

😂

@tonyatkinson2210

Ай бұрын

Not quite . I don’t see any of penroses work having any of the impact Einstein has had

We are in the middle of the universe because the CMB is the same distance in all directions and we are at the edge of the universe because all known time is behind us.

we could be inside a blackhole and every blackhole could have its own universe inside it with more blackholes ,three is no limit to how slow time can go and how small matter can be as spacetime srinks or gets compressed by gravity

Surprised I lasted 2 minutes, thanks camera man!

The question thus is: has the beginning actually begun?

Time has to be finite going backwards because if it were infinite we couldn't have gotten to this time we're at.

could quantum gravity make infinitesimal from infinite? how could such quantum gravity start?

The universe is forever.

@andrewmasterman2034

Ай бұрын

So infinite?

@mavelous1763

24 күн бұрын

Some ‘forevers’ are longer than others….just like infinities

Fascinating!!

I just did a lil math in my note book and came up wit a finenight universe. Even when i switched up a couple variables and da math still add up2 a finenight universe.da math dont lie bra! Da universe ant infinite 💯

@hermeschains

Ай бұрын

appreciate u doing the math brodie 💯

Feels like nobody is considering the difference between zero and nonzero numbers. Zero is not-natural and nonzero numbers are natural. Numbers do have geometric counterparts.

@Hyperion1722

Ай бұрын

Good. if you inherit 1,000,000 USD, we just lop off the zeros as these are not natural and you just get 1 USD.

No beginning No end

@zealman79

Ай бұрын

cause on my love, you can depennnnnnnnnnnnnddd

I prefer his theory rather than the limiting big bang theory. Something happened before the big bang and it is up to theorists to expound further.

We began

Universe - well, we imagine the space. So a new term (Nature) will do it: Did the Nature begin? Now, you can start the reflection (start with definitions of beginning and ending).

If our only view is of the universe then it had a beginning. If our view is of eternity and infinity then our universe is one occurrence.

@KamramBehzad

Ай бұрын

I believe our universe is a leaf growing on a branch, of a tree, in a forest, on a planet, in universe2, that is a leaf growing on a branch .... That's why I'm fascinated by watching fractal images zoom in and in and in ...

The Universe comes from "something" which is infinitely small. Therefore there was no beginning that science can ever measure or describe.

CCC FTW (conformal cyclic cosmology)

Just imagine that most redshift is just a consequence of distance through space that light has travelled. No big bang, no inflation, no increasing expansion. simple.

@MERLE1593

Ай бұрын

That would require credible evidence to support it. A you'll need to submit a scholarly paper to the appropriate scientific journals for peer review. Go for it!

Begin if it did then where's the end ? more like a ring round and round?

Is the universe expanding and contracting at the same time? Asking for a mildly smart friend. 🤔

I know I'm OCD but I'm sure the background is a green screen and it's really off putting.

@crabb9966

Ай бұрын

I think so

@jasonwiley798

Ай бұрын

You are CDO. OCD IN ALphabetic order

@patsprankcalls

Ай бұрын

@@jasonwiley798 Tf are you on about. I dont actually have it btw its just a figure of speech 😂😂😂

@jasonwiley798

Ай бұрын

@@patsprankcalls it's a joke/ Some people have no sense of humor.

Humans always project. Thus a beginning

Not being able to measure time doesn’t mean not having it

@millepill

Ай бұрын

When there is no change there is no time.

Only God has these answers! All mankind has is a theory ! When I listen to these talks it makes me realize that there is much more that we don’t know than what we know !!

Infinite creating more infinity. Infinite in all directions. No doubt humans are prejudiced towards self-preservation.

@Ellier215

Ай бұрын

Oh. That’s interesting. Self preservation in an infinite universe.

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If your equations produce nonsense, then perhaps there is something wrong with the equations, or the assumptions you are making that you plug into your equations. At 8:02 Penrose says all you need to do is “put down the Transformations which make infinity squash down and then you take the reciprocal and that's the stretching out which gives you for the Big Bang.” (Oh,...and you need some other equations in there, too.) Infinity magically transforms and squashes down, that is nonsense.

@gordonquimby8907

2 ай бұрын

What is squashing it down? No mass, therefore no gravity.

@deanodebo

2 ай бұрын

Actually synthesis and analysis in mathematics is how new theorems are born. Your problem may be thinking the scientific theory is true. It’s not. They’re not. They’re models essentially.

@AliothAncalagon

Ай бұрын

If you ask me Penrose just struggled to explain the concept in more simple terms, so he kinda retreated into the equations. There is nothing nonsensical about his proposal. Or at least nobody found a nonsensical element within it yet. And its not even that counter-intuitive how it works. The infinity he talks about effectively comes down to the Law of truly large numbers. If you have a googol years time, even a chimpanzee randomly hitting buttons on a typewriter will eventually happen to write the Lord of the Rings. If you have a googol to the power of a googol years time, Quantum fluctuation will eventually happen to randomly create the physical novels out of nothing somewhere. And if you have a googol to the power of a googol to the power of a googol years time, that might be enough for Quantum fluctuation to create a new big bang.

@gordonquimby8907

Ай бұрын

@@deanodebo Well, mathematics is how new theorems may be born, but there has to be a justification for transforming the infinite expansion into a cataclysmic collapse that then causes a new Big Bang. The photons expanding out to infinity have no mass. Therefore, there is no gravity to cause the universe to collapse. So there must be some errant assumptions in Penrose's equations. One errant assumption he makes is that the cold dark (almost) nothingness of the universe an infinite number of years from now is the same as the absolute nothingness before the beginning of time.

@deanodebo

Ай бұрын

@@gordonquimby8907 keep in mind, scientific theories are only provisional explanations, never proven But the idea is that “distance” and “time” lose all quantifiable meaning at some point. They have no meaningful magnitude. Energy and mass being equal, who knows the process where space and time are “reborn” But to speak of “collapse” is nonsensical just as anything “happening” is - Absent time and magnitude of distance.