Rocco vs Lazav vs Thrasios/Vial Smasher vs Tymna/Kraum | CEDH Gameplay

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    @PlayingWithPowerMTG2 жыл бұрын

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  • @AidanWR
    @AidanWR2 жыл бұрын

    I feel like, "He moves to Kraumbat," is an underrated line

  • @jaydub5515

    @jaydub5515

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was just about to comment on that

  • @XJBG1001X

    @XJBG1001X

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for pointing this out! I hope more people catch it

  • @treytonmoore9006

    @treytonmoore9006

    2 жыл бұрын

    It got a giggle out of me for sure.

  • @outfoxies

    @outfoxies

    2 жыл бұрын

    Steve Brule moment

  • @jetselenting8153

    @jetselenting8153

    2 жыл бұрын

    Came here to say this. So good

  • @Magnet977
    @Magnet9772 жыл бұрын

    In this episode, we answer the question "how many times can you blow up a notion thief in a Lasav deck before its really gone?".

  • @honestabe952
    @honestabe9522 жыл бұрын

    God damn Greg did not want me to have a notion thief.

  • @Magnet977

    @Magnet977

    2 жыл бұрын

    The notion in the ocean is no notion thieves are allowed.

  • @spielrahoo

    @spielrahoo

    2 жыл бұрын

    You know Greg. He prefers drawing cards to winning.

  • @deandreholmes3807
    @deandreholmes38072 жыл бұрын

    Lazav: *becomes copy of Notion Thief* Greg: “How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?!”

  • @rafaelrd777
    @rafaelrd7772 жыл бұрын

    Hehehe Kraum-bat, gave me a chuckle

  • @ricobamert
    @ricobamert2 жыл бұрын

    Got into cEDH and educated myself largely with watching your content, great stuff guys! I'd love to see more videos on the mindset/philosophy of cEDH, learning on the metalevel and how to assess threats :)

  • @sharkmanyt4431

    @sharkmanyt4431

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol same here

  • @ricobamert

    @ricobamert

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sharkmanyt4431 Thanks for the advice :D

  • @PrairiePridePoultry

    @PrairiePridePoultry

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's something I definitely can improve on...threat assessment

  • @Kazz1187

    @Kazz1187

    2 жыл бұрын

    Podcast is great!

  • @sharkmanyt4431

    @sharkmanyt4431

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ricobamert anytime

  • @bloodblade487
    @bloodblade4872 жыл бұрын

    "He moves to kraumbat" killed me lmfao

  • @ggpt9641

    @ggpt9641

    2 жыл бұрын

    And attacks Greg. Poor Greg.

  • @angellopez6475
    @angellopez64752 жыл бұрын

    Heartbroken for Rocco, it looks like a really cool deck

  • @codycantfocus

    @codycantfocus

    2 жыл бұрын

    Been playing Rocco since release, it is great!

  • @davidlyda3238

    @davidlyda3238

    2 жыл бұрын

    He might’ve had it if he didn’t waste his Veil of Summer!

  • @angellopez6475

    @angellopez6475

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@davidlyda3238 it was a weird call ngl

  • @bigdon9999

    @bigdon9999

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why did he tutor for vizier for sorcery speed? Before either of his opponents mystic remoras had a chance to go away

  • @thunderwank2037

    @thunderwank2037

    2 жыл бұрын

    This rocco list is not it at all, some very questionable plays as well. The commander is super sweeeeet though.

  • @Trokee
    @Trokee2 жыл бұрын

    I really apperciaite that Krombat lol those little touches is what makes you guys the best! 4:08

  • @Darebearlovesbug
    @Darebearlovesbug2 жыл бұрын

    This might be the best game of CEDH I’ve ever seen. How does Jordan not have anything to do with Rocco and infinite mana?

  • @trveheimer6360

    @trveheimer6360

    2 жыл бұрын

    not sure about the list, i havent looked at it yet, but he should really be able to deviate into something other than ballista, any deck needs alternate wincons. maybe it was dualcaster here and he was missing the twinflame? EDIT; just checked the list, he could have grabbed duskwatch recruiter via rocco with inf green but the list indeed doesnt have another creature payout for inf mana aside from ballista, can win with infinite big finale but even after filtering all creatures out via duskwatch he'd have to manually draw it. no food chain somehow

  • @Bezoldz

    @Bezoldz

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have sometimes the same problem with chatterfang. If you dont have any draw you just locked the board with infinite mana.

  • @accoyed

    @accoyed

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@trveheimer6360 Looks like he could have used Rocco to get Duskwatch Recruiter, Get all the creatures from his deck, and set up his library and he has this green creature Briarbridge Tracker/Emiel or Temur for that ETB make a clue, could play destiny spinner into that and draw your whole deck and Chord/Eldrich for Grand Abolisher for a safe Ewit/Finale Loop or some Kogla/Temur Sabertooth loops, I think he had outs with infinite Green mana for sure.

  • @trveheimer6360

    @trveheimer6360

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@accoyed true, i didnt realize why he played tracker or duskwatch (building a version of the deck myself) but that translates from creatuers into draw. anyways the deck should 100% run a kiki-jiki line imo. even tho it makes the deck a bit samey to blood pod in consequence. ballista is a nice alternative line, so is bolt / eternal wittness / sabretooth or emiel.

  • @accoyed

    @accoyed

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@trveheimer6360 you can also play godo.

  • @RHINOJL
    @RHINOJL2 жыл бұрын

    4:09 did you really think we wouldn`t notice that pun? He moves to "Kraumbat". So sneaky.

  • @taylorjackson2616
    @taylorjackson26162 жыл бұрын

    Feel like the Rocco player may have misplayed a little bit. For sure will get better with more practice, but using veil as a card draw isn't really a good play and could have won if he just let the pact resolve since no one else had an answer for creature counterspells. Could just cast rocco, getting E witness and then recasted walking ballista for the win.

  • @scottlewis7654

    @scottlewis7654

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was thinking that too. I went back to figure out why he didn't recast Rocco to tutor for something but I just didn't understand why.

  • @joshholmes1372

    @joshholmes1372

    2 жыл бұрын

    My same thought. Also, does he not have an alternate win con to ballista to dump mana on?

  • @joshholmes1372

    @joshholmes1372

    2 жыл бұрын

    Could have fetched for eternal witness to get waking ballista back as well or abolisher/esper sentinel. Should probably throw ranger captain in that deck too.

  • @TopGunner4411
    @TopGunner44112 жыл бұрын

    Don't think we didn't notice "Kraum-bat". Well played sir...

  • @mandielyn0416
    @mandielyn04162 жыл бұрын

    What a game to watch! Exciting all the way through. Loved every second.

  • @patrickconnor5854
    @patrickconnor58542 жыл бұрын

    Super glad Ryan is narrating again. Keeps the interest and focus there for the viewer.

  • @davidpabst8638
    @davidpabst86382 жыл бұрын

    Man, what a fun game to watch! Looked like you where also having the best time

  • @lorenzotanzi9851
    @lorenzotanzi98512 жыл бұрын

    I'm Italian, and our "Rocco" never loses.

  • @DanteMTG_
    @DanteMTG_2 жыл бұрын

    Sheeeeeeh Jordan, my dude, you almost had it so many times, great games y'all

  • @timtauber5557
    @timtauber55572 жыл бұрын

    Greg thoroughly showed the table he was the master of his deck.

  • @Iam4lpha
    @Iam4lpha2 жыл бұрын

    Anyone else catch Ryan around 4 mins say go to kraumbat…. Fricken love it lol

  • @justinveron698
    @justinveron6982 жыл бұрын

    An awesome game of CEDH Magic!

  • @hawkicelol
    @hawkicelol2 жыл бұрын

    lmaoooo. the second thassas make me laugh. GG!

  • @Lasor4
    @Lasor42 жыл бұрын

    Love seeing that Lazav love!

  • @orsettomorbido
    @orsettomorbido2 жыл бұрын

    What a game! So interactive!

  • @daguynexdoor
    @daguynexdoor2 жыл бұрын

    Did you say "he moves to kraumbat?!" Damn that got me

  • @dasfabelwesen
    @dasfabelwesen2 жыл бұрын

    This is a very meta table, really nice tobsee

  • @014TheValentino
    @014TheValentino2 жыл бұрын

    Amazing vid

  • @PidgeMidge
    @PidgeMidge2 жыл бұрын

    4:09 LMFAOOOOOOOO that got me good

  • @juanchetumare
    @juanchetumare2 жыл бұрын

    That line Zack took was 8d chess damn

  • @TCG9777
    @TCG97772 жыл бұрын

    just saw this upload, and missed my chance to get sleeves again :(

  • @joshholmes1372
    @joshholmes13722 жыл бұрын

    It's Rocco's modern life, and we're all just living in it.

  • @lukecormier6913
    @lukecormier69132 жыл бұрын

    Rocco needs a rift sweeper and pull from eternity the deck isn't running an ad naus or life centric theme and they help avoid getting hard locked out of a win con that or maybe like comet storm or fireball as a flex spot to work as both alt win cons and removal as needed

  • @andrevpedro
    @andrevpedro2 жыл бұрын

    Jordan my dude. You need to get more Wincons in your deck :(

  • @dominusanimus5726
    @dominusanimus57262 жыл бұрын

    A question for the Lazav player. Why not run Pili-pala and Palladium Myr with Necrotic Ooze? You can use that and Mesmeric Orb to instantly mill your entire library, while gaining infinite mana. It also has the additional benefit of only being able to be interacted with at 2 points. The cast of the MO, and the activation of Lazav into Ooze. Everything else is mana abilities. I'm sure there's a legitimate reason that I just don't see lol but I've closed out games on turn 3-4 with it.

  • @michaelrichards5253
    @michaelrichards52532 жыл бұрын

    Oooo a new video.

  • @garridendickey6944
    @garridendickey69442 жыл бұрын

    is there a specific reason as to running flame sweep for thrasios/vial deck instead of pyroclasm?

  • @xOptoger

    @xOptoger

    2 жыл бұрын

    Instant Speed maybe?

  • @garridendickey6944

    @garridendickey6944

    2 жыл бұрын

    oh I didn't see that yeah makes sense

  • @honestabe952

    @honestabe952

    2 жыл бұрын

    Instant speed, and if you look at Greg’s list, he’s running the absolute minimum creatures with two or less toughness

  • @ggpt9641
    @ggpt96412 жыл бұрын

    Never thought I'd see today's mvp card be mvp.

  • @kingginger3335
    @kingginger33352 жыл бұрын

    I knew Kraum had flying, but I never realized, until just now, that the electricity is his wings and he has talons for feet

  • @Womping-Willow
    @Womping-Willow2 жыл бұрын

    Miscast Counters Fierce is such a satisfying statement to hear.

  • @ivernedit4132
    @ivernedit41322 жыл бұрын

    “And plays a elvish mystic.” That killed me

  • @dReggz100
    @dReggz1002 жыл бұрын

    My favourite commander, Trymna :P

  • @MomirViggwilv
    @MomirViggwilv2 жыл бұрын

    Was Zack's Sol Ring altered to look like Sauron's eye? If so, that's really cool.

  • @jakemaxwell3810

    @jakemaxwell3810

    Жыл бұрын

    Either that or the symbol of Phyrexia

  • @alanyuan8565
    @alanyuan85652 жыл бұрын

    I’m kinda surprised about these plays: - cyclonic rift after he combos instead of prior - curiosity not on vial smasher?

  • @passprioritypodcast

    @passprioritypodcast

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was under pressure from kraum all game, never had a good time to cast vial without fear of either losing the game to a combo or to beats. casting curio on thrasios was a desperation play I would not ever recommend doing. some things you just can't control smh

  • @simianurchin7630
    @simianurchin76302 жыл бұрын

    First time in awhile I’ve seen thassa and nothing else on the stack win

  • @freya002YT
    @freya002YT2 жыл бұрын

    Taiga Uppercut !

  • @hanscoria9518
    @hanscoria95182 жыл бұрын

    Hmm.. what was Zack’s strategy when he chose not to play his Mystic Remora on turn 1 with his Fellwar Stone and chose to cast it on Turn 2 instead? He could’ve drawn 2 cards.. right?

  • @kylarcheng1346
    @kylarcheng13462 жыл бұрын

    Untap, Upkeep, Draw, Go to Kraum-bat...

  • @cedarcorey-flatau6823
    @cedarcorey-flatau68232 жыл бұрын

    What's Trymna? "Trim ya life total to draw cards."

  • @kentharris1820
    @kentharris18202 жыл бұрын

    Zack is very good

  • @dannymerritt7746
    @dannymerritt77462 жыл бұрын

    KRAUMBAT I AM DYING lololol

  • @Hitzel
    @Hitzel2 жыл бұрын

    I missed why Rocco wasn't cast with all that infinite mana. Can someone fill me in?

  • @Matzekatze3

    @Matzekatze3

    2 жыл бұрын

    He had no white mana to cast him after using the trap

  • @ellissanders2382

    @ellissanders2382

    2 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately I think the list just isn’t great and he had no clue how to play it.

  • @Hitzel

    @Hitzel

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Matzekatze3 Ah that makes sense. Devoted Druid just taps for green right?

  • @Matzekatze3

    @Matzekatze3

    2 жыл бұрын

    I mean he had the win but cycling the veil was questionable

  • @Matzekatze3

    @Matzekatze3

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jordandietrich4236 thanks for your insight!

  • @ericcastaneda1174
    @ericcastaneda11742 жыл бұрын

    Damn the sIeeves are aIready soId out again wow!

  • @picklejr.4407
    @picklejr.44072 жыл бұрын

    can we get playing with power flannels PLZZ

  • @soulofaeons5137
    @soulofaeons51372 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always guys! One thing i'm wondering about and this may be because i don't understand Storm properly, but why was the Flusterstorm so big that countered the Entomb? I always took Storm count for the "player" turn, not the whole turn, if you know what i mean.

  • @tannermattingly4462

    @tannermattingly4462

    2 жыл бұрын

    Storm checks for every spell that was cast before it, regardless of who casted it.

  • @addambarcelos
    @addambarcelos2 жыл бұрын

    that sad moment when jordan has the loop ready, but no other outlet to Win :(

  • @relijinn826

    @relijinn826

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yea this Rocco list is pretty so-so imo. Not to mention the plays that were made by Jordan were off, to say the least.

  • @hesnotbad9045
    @hesnotbad9045 Жыл бұрын

    What a free PItA does with turn ten mana

  • @passprioritypodcast
    @passprioritypodcast2 жыл бұрын

    "best pilot in the format" *keeps a god awful hand* brr

  • @spielrahoo

    @spielrahoo

    2 жыл бұрын

    To be fair, he said ONE of the best pilots.

  • @gundamassassin241
    @gundamassassin2412 жыл бұрын

    Why did the Rocco player huck his veil of summer on someone else's turn?

  • @Matzekatze3

    @Matzekatze3

    2 жыл бұрын

    He had the win on the next turn with veil rocco and infinite mana :-(

  • @tylercraig5633
    @tylercraig56332 жыл бұрын

    I saw Rocco and clicked immediately

  • @relijinn826

    @relijinn826

    2 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately the pilot for Rocco had a poor performance and a pretty mediocre list.

  • @robsta6543
    @robsta65432 жыл бұрын

    I honestly haven't been excited about a thasa win in like a good year or two sorry .. partially lol good game guys

  • @Magnivore519
    @Magnivore5192 жыл бұрын

    oh em gee it's pee double-you pee

  • @hip5702
    @hip57022 жыл бұрын

    He moves to Kraumbat

  • @didupaytheone2678
    @didupaytheone26782 жыл бұрын

    Nice fish combination, next time win with Hamburg and fries lol...im more of a combat man myself

  • @bamjo9
    @bamjo92 жыл бұрын

    I don't understand why Rocco player didn't recast Rocco with the infinite green mana to keep fetching creatures

  • @relijinn826

    @relijinn826

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well in order to "keep" casting Rocco he'd also need infinite red and white mana which he didn't have. But looking at his list for this game, he also doesn't really have any major wincons besides Ballista. Overall still a pretty underwhelming performance and mediocre list.

  • @shyuugaheero2614
    @shyuugaheero26142 жыл бұрын

    Why doesn't Jordan cast rocco? He has infinite mana. Feels like rocco threw the game with that veil.

  • @shyuugaheero2614

    @shyuugaheero2614

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jordandietrich4236 Ashiok doesn't stay on the board. You untap with infinite mana and no Ashiok in play. You threw. Lmao. Why? Who knows.

  • @shyuugaheero2614

    @shyuugaheero2614

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ESP4thaWin thank you. I assumed he had white mana available to cast Rocco but looking at the deck list he didn't have anything worth tutoring by the looks of it. =/

  • @alanrois7941
    @alanrois79412 жыл бұрын

    He moved to "Kraumbat" lol

  • @christopherfitzpatrick1483
    @christopherfitzpatrick14832 жыл бұрын

    kraumbat lmao

  • @fireburn264
    @fireburn2642 жыл бұрын

    Great episode but a minor rules correction is that Kraum's draw ability isn't a may and has to happen after the second spell so it can't be missed.

  • @bigcomedown987
    @bigcomedown9872 жыл бұрын

    did i fucking hear kraumbat?

  • @jfb-
    @jfb-2 жыл бұрын

    so rocco wasn't able to win the game through casting rocco to tutor any creature?

  • @relijinn826

    @relijinn826

    2 жыл бұрын

    Their list didn't really consist of anything worth tutoring for tbh.

  • @jfb-

    @jfb-

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@relijinn826 there's ewit which could have got back balista, or duskwatch recruiter which could have drawn all the creatures in the deck

  • @ayejay7024
    @ayejay70242 жыл бұрын

    Title says trymna

  • @ellissanders2382
    @ellissanders23822 жыл бұрын

    Having built and played Rocco since it’s release, the way it was played in this video was painful to watch. Not really sure what’s going on with this list either as it’s kinda all over the place. Please go take a look on Moxfield at Wondabread’s Rocco, Druid of Devastation list as it looks pretty streamlined.

  • @relijinn826

    @relijinn826

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yea Rocco's become one of my favorite decks to play with and this list feels pretty bad honestly. Personally I've settled for a Food Chain + Birthing Pod approach but obviously there's a ton of ways you can build Rocco because of how versatile its ability is, but it feels like Jordan's list heard that and got overwhelmed lol

  • @williamalphin6878
    @williamalphin68782 жыл бұрын

    early watcher!

  • @Putrefax
    @Putrefax2 жыл бұрын

    Nice to see Lazav getting some love, but I prefer a more proactive approach. Keep the Thoracle and control shells, but instead of the NOoze lines you can just kill people by making Lazav into a Phyrexian Dreadnought with infect, or a Wall of Blood with lifelink.

  • @Jemarshepherd
    @Jemarshepherd Жыл бұрын

    The Rocco player should have won if only he took action when Viel resolved

  • @DexterityYTC
    @DexterityYTC2 жыл бұрын

    I recently built Lazav and avoided all of the cEDH staples because I didn't want it to feel like every other blue/black deck. Basically no Thoracle combo and slower/less counter magic. The deck is still so freakin good consistently threatening game by turn 3-5. I'm glad to see other people starting to pick up Lazav, but also stop copying me. First Harald Elves and now this.

  • @honestabe952

    @honestabe952

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been playing Lazav since he came out lol.

  • @syntaxerror2409
    @syntaxerror24092 жыл бұрын

    The boring toracle combo, but I really enjoyed Greg constantly blowing up lazav as a notion thief hahahahha

  • @honestabe952

    @honestabe952

    2 жыл бұрын

    He literally played so many things that led to thoracle. I think people need to stop being so hard on it from a viewers perspective, you want to watch “the best cards in the format” but don’t want people to use the most compact combo in the game? I mean I get it, but it’s literally the best way to win in the format. That’s why it’s used so much.

  • @corey397
    @corey3972 жыл бұрын

    I know he's banned. I'd love to see everyone play their favorite version of golos. If they can dig those up. I'm building him as a "fun" commander. And yes, I do know he's banned. So this would be SUPER casual. Thank you if you guys do it. If you guys have some fun brews. I'd love to see them to get the gears turning. Thank you!

  • @SkulblakaFreohr
    @SkulblakaFreohr2 жыл бұрын

    Did Jordan forget that he had a commander or…?

  • @didupaytheone2678
    @didupaytheone26782 жыл бұрын

    GG everyone..wait for until I make my death and taxes deck lol..u going to pay the one, can I have a treasure etc

  • @luketaylor1257
    @luketaylor12572 жыл бұрын

    I just want one game that isn't won by Thassa's Oracle. It's getting boring.

  • @theguardian9629
    @theguardian96292 жыл бұрын

    Geez this one was played badly

  • @Wouahlala
    @Wouahlala2 жыл бұрын

    So frustrated by the rocco player choices

  • @frankyg821
    @frankyg8212 жыл бұрын

    We need to ban all the 2 color partners. It breaks the flavor of commander

  • @passprioritypodcast

    @passprioritypodcast

    2 жыл бұрын

    why don't we ban sol ring, and the color green while we're at it!

  • @marcelhoernchn3909
    @marcelhoernchn3909 Жыл бұрын

    Just a game worhout Vial/kraum/thrasios…. Always the same boring stuff. -.-*

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