Probably the most controversial grand final ever, but nice to see X-Terminator get this far though, they really did well with this version.

@davidfearis7335

4 жыл бұрын

I think Series 6 was also a Controversial Grand Final

@tyreesetjjoyner1995

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidfearis7335 Tornado's Anti-Crusher web is the telling factor

@cr10001

3 жыл бұрын

@Trapster2 Way better than the axe (as they noted). It was a bit flimsy compared with later vertical spinners, but very effective against most bots of the time.

@Frosty_tha_Snowman

2 жыл бұрын

Tornado is a box of junk

@jamesmitchell8922

Жыл бұрын

Series 6 was more worse than this

Storm 2, Typhoon 2 and Tornado. If only there also was a Hurricane.

@TheLegacyofHitchcock

6 жыл бұрын

If Tsunami had managed to flip X-Terminator Oota and then won through the semi-finals (which I think it could have), the whole Grand Final could have been about natural disasters.

@Factsworld_001

6 жыл бұрын

KimFareseed 'Natural Desaster' would also be a cool name for a robot.

@ksioldvideos5980

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheLegacyofHitchcock If Eruption was around then it would be a full set of natural diaesters

@ryanodonovan9497

Жыл бұрын

There _is_ a fictional robot called Hurricane in Robot Wars: Arenas of Destruction; part of the majority of machines in the game made using the creation suite's components. It's a low-wedged, polycarbonate-armoured machine armed with a rear lawnmower blade and three spikes underneath it.

I just love seeing X-terminator in there. Such a great robot and definitely the underdog

@burzaburza2970

4 жыл бұрын

Not the underdog reallu

The reboot was more like battlebots than the original Robot Wars. It lacked the whole TV production/entertainment vibe. It's one thing I noticed about game shows today generally, very few of them seem to focus on the fantasy element. The first three series of original robot wars took regular engineers, school pupils, the common man etc, and let them compete in this dark metallic themed arena, with lurking 'house robots' who's personalities were brought to life thanks to Jonathan Pierece's commentary and the way the operators controlled them. Craig Charles made longer introductions at the start of the show. That was a slower format, but it was engrossing. The later series moved to more of a WWE style which did also work very well, got you really hyped for the fights. But then 12 yeas later, the Reboot came, and you got two presenters who werent enthusiastic enough about the job, and a basic, smaller arena and no real 'TV set' as such.

"Next year" they said Doesn't start the reboot until 12 years later 😂

@tyreesetjjoyner1995

3 жыл бұрын

yes it was. unfortunately, the reboot of Robot wars is different.

@TekkenBones

2 жыл бұрын

​@@tyreesetjjoyner1995 Yeah, the reboot was more like battlebots than the original Robot Wars. It lacked the whole TV production/entertainment vibe. It's one thing I noticed about game shows today generally, very few of them seem to focus on the fantasy element. The first three series of original robot wars took regular engineers, school pupils, the common man etc, and let them compete in this dark metallic themed arena, with lurking 'house robots' who's personalities were brought to life thanks to Jonathan Pierece's commentary and the way the operators controlled them. Craig Charles made longer introductions at the start of the show. That was a slower format, but it was engrossing. The later series moved to more of a WWE style which did also work very well, got you really hyped for the fights. But then 12 yeas later, the Reboot came, and you got two presenters who werent enthusiastic enough about the job, and a basic, smaller arena and no real 'TV set' as such.

@deusvultpictures6550

2 жыл бұрын

@@TekkenBones Aye as sexy as Angela Scanlon is I don't think she was a good fit for the reboot. The less said about Dara O Brien the better. At least they got Jonathan Pearce back, though I did miss the grungier underground look and feel of the original series.

According to Mentorn, an RAF-roundel-coloured spinning traffic cone running away is "stylish"

Storm 2 DOMINATED that fight And the damage they did take was more superficial than anything else

I wanted storm 2 to win. They allowed Typhoon 2 to spin up too fast after the arena was repaired. Typhoon spent the whole time running away. Thanks so much for the upload!

@esunsalmista

3 жыл бұрын

They always look like they're running away because that's the way they get their weapon to full power. If they're successfully running away consistently then they're actually doing exactly what the robot was designed to do.

@crystalheart9

3 жыл бұрын

@@esunsalmista Oh, Ok! Thanks for the information!

@cr10001

3 жыл бұрын

@@esunsalmista Yeah, but talk about a boring robot. Just runs away and waits for the other bot to attack them. (Anybody says Tornado or Storm is boring, is nuts - they can only win by actually doing stuff, like attacking)

“The judges aren’t happy with the decision.” Erm...🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨

@ryanodonovan9497

2 ай бұрын

It's not confusing at all, actually. Mentorn were the ones ordering the judges around while the former were looking for weak excuses to con Storm 2 out of the competition for not being "entertaining" enough. Then again, I don't know how it makes sense even by that logic when Storm 2 was making pushing robots around more fun to watch. For fuck's sake - it got another robot out of the arena without lifting it! That had _never_ been done before!

Probably the best ever Grand Final to grace the ORIGINAL 7 series of Robot Wars....

I had this recorded on VHS when I was a kid. This was the most brutal Grand Final I ever saw.

Storm 2's weapon wasn't working? What fight were you watching Craig?!

@NorrisVaughn

6 жыл бұрын

I think it wasn't working for the second half of that fight.

@Avonvalley1

6 жыл бұрын

And tornado was defo in that pit 😜

@BadwolfGamer

6 жыл бұрын

He foresaw series 8.

@cr10001

3 жыл бұрын

@@NorrisVaughn According to Storm's handlers, it was working but they weren't going to use it and flip Tornado right-side-up again.

The whole series was action packed and I loved it. However, there were a couple of decisions I disagreed with. I don't necessarily blame the judges, but rather the grading criteria. The Storm vs. Typhoon as well as the Robochicken vs. TAN fights demonstrated that damage might count too much in a decision. That being said Robot Wars is the most entertaining robot fighting show there is.

Typhoon vs Storm, Storm disabled Typhoon's weapon. There's your damage judges.

robot wars series 7 awards: best design: X-terminator original entry: Gravity Sportmanship: Lightning Best Newcomer: Storm 2 winner of the featherweight championship: DTK (mini Dantomkia) battle of the spinners: Shredder Evolution battle of the axes (axe attack): iron awe 2.1 crusher crunch up: mantis

I still say Storm 2 should have won the 7th wars, got nothing against Typhoon 2 it was a good and effective full body spinner-bot but Storm was clearly more aggressive and they did cause damage to Typhoon, I believe it was the chain drive for the weapon that had come off making them defenseless, but at least both the Typhoon team and the Judges had not part in this stupid rigging that was all down to the producers who did this just to stop Storm from winning, but Despite the controversy in this Grand Final all the fights were really entertaining to watch.

I feel like the final was the main reason why the judging criteria changed in the reboot. You can tell that the judges probably thought that Storm had won overall but because of the damage they had to give it to Typhoon.

Fair play to xterminator , they did really well

I remember the Grand Final, felt well gutted when Typhoon was awarded the win. Although, that grand final battle was pretty fun to watch.

Storm 2 won that. Typhoon 2 spent most of the time running. How did they win on style?

The speed of typhoon before cease was 0 because they had just hit the wall. This final was an absolute abomination. The show had really jumped the shark by the point, as also evidenced by Razer giving Tornado the decision in Extreme 2 - how on earth could they have to volunteer to give up a decision in a fight in which they were immobilised and their opponent was not?

@BoormanCrafts

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, how the hell was this fight right really? The judges had no way of knowing how fast the robot was turning! I feel it was a way they always gave advantages to the team.

I think what this goes to show is the that this series was the stepping stone to the reboot. Some of these robots were considerably more powerful than anything before them, the Gods (Chaos 2, Hypnodisc) were defeated as they were dated machines.

@stevedimmock930

2 жыл бұрын

It does make you wonder how some of the older robots would have done if they had returned for this series. I'd have thought only Razer would have really been that competitive, and I'm not too sure if they would have made the final (dependent on who it would have faced). Chaos 2 and Hypno-disc I would guess would have been eliminated in the first couple of rounds as both were already extremely outdated by this point

@robertwalpole5376

Жыл бұрын

@@stevedimmock930 Honestly, I don't see a path forwards for most robots from the Classic series in S8, even for a powerhouse like Razer. That 10KG weight limit increase alone would greatly harm many (especially Chaos 2 - barely above the initial limit, it'd be a paperweight for Apollo), and the advances in tech would kill most. I could see a robot like Pussycat being potentially competitive, but even then, they'd still be limited to the heats. You could see that with what happened with Storm 2, which was barely upgraded (and primarily kept by a person infamous for his lack of engineering skills), and they were still one of the more competent robots. And let's be real as well, Razer weren't going to do well against a bot like Aftershock or Carbide, either. It's a crusher bot at a point where, beyond maybe Tough As Nails, crusher bots have been mostly relegated to the backburner. And that's not even when considering later series. Series 9 had too many battles where modern robots were done in one hit by a powerful spinner, let alone robots from an era where even some of the more successful ones couldn't last a full match. And Series 10 put up more resistance measures to modern spinners that could easily catch out powerful ones like Carbide and Apex, which are several times faster than old ones. If Carbide at its peak couldn't fully bite away at Gabriel 2's wheels, then I doubt Hypno-Disc would tickle them. There are definitely a few bots that'd get laughed out by older machines (i.e. The Swarm), but those (esp. in S10, with its highly depressed turnout even for the reboots) are rare to come by. As shocking as writing this out feels, Nuts & Bolts 2, even if pared down slightly for the lower weight limit, probably could've trounced Series 7. Overall, the only old robots that could compete would be ones that adapt to the times, like Behemoth and Terrorhurtz, both definite competitors in the Reboot. Plus, technically through proxy of becoming Apollo, Kronic (and, through similar means, St. Agro as Maelstrom, even if they didn't compete). But, unfortunately, most robots left in their old states (especially Panic Attack, as much as it hurts me) would probably become Robogeddon 2. Interesting to see how modernised versions would do, though. X-Terminator's S7 design did pioneer the successful scoop-disc spinner that later became widespread, even if it'd be somewhat inefficient in its form. Tornado would have a field day with better potential interchangable weapons (Finally! The Anti-Spinner Device mightn't be shot down!). Kim Davies' plan for a Panic Attack entered in the reboot was to have a lifter that could also function as a spinner, and both ways (he seemed very interested in an invertible PA, had been since S7). Storm 2 having a competent engineer would be as deadly as ever, provided Ed Hoppitt doesn't do any bullshit like his attempt to sabotage PP3D in Series 8. Most robots would probably just benefit from refining with modern technology/upped weight. Dominator 3 was very intimidating when entered in the Live Circuits, and general upgrades would probably be fruitful there. We did see many old entrants in Series 8 (Dantomkia, Storm 2, Razer, Thermidor 2), but I wish we'd seen more, if only to know how they'd be adapted for the modern era. Real shame we never saw that.

Wasn't it supposed to be over twenty thousand pounds? When did it suddenly drop to five thou?

@tyreesetjjoyner1995

5 жыл бұрын

i agree. on the very beginning of the 7th wars, craig charles said the cash pot is 20,000 pounds. and now, they reduced the cash pot into 5,000 pounds. what's up with that?

@Jaymess24

5 жыл бұрын

The cash pot was 20K, the winner received 5K of that

I’ve got a potential can of worms to open here. Not about the final battle, but Storm II vs Tornado. A big part of the “Storm II controversy” saga is the claim that when Storm II placed Tornado on the activated pit, the reigning champions were actually caught and lowered below the arena floor before the pit was raised back up. Supposedly, there is an edit between the camera angle change. There’s a number of counterclaims to this, some of which the likes of NJGW have pointed out (like Tornado not being displaced at all by the lowering, no-one else objecting to this or the fact that Refbot shouldn’t have activated the pit while the fight was still going anyway). I’ve found another though. At 13:00, look at Refbot in the bottom right corner. Just before the camera changes to the overhead shot with Tornado driving away, Refbot starts reversing. When it cuts to that shot, Refbot is still reversing from the same point that the previous camera angle left him at. Now, Tornado being fully pitted before it was raised back up would have taken at least a few seconds. If that happened, then surely Refbot would have been at least slightly displaced in the shot, if not outright missing? I mean, look at what needs to happen for this story to completely fit: 1. Someone gets the order and/or tells Refbot’s driver to move forwards from wherever they ended up. 2. The driver manages to get back to exactly where they were before Tornado started going down. 3. Refbot starts making exactly the same motion from exactly the same place as before while Tornado drives off the pit, and it looks like one perfect, fluid movement from Refbot. 4. All of this occurs in about 10 seconds. Thought way too much about this lol, but figured it was worth sharing.

How do you guys think the Top 16 would’ve been seeded had Robot Wars continued the year after. Here is what I think based on placement in the competition & performance capabilities: 1. Typhoon 2 2. Storm 2 3. Tornado 4. X-Terminator 5. Firestorm 6. Gravity 7. Atomic 8. Bulldog Breed 9. Dantomkia 10. Tough As Nails 11. M2 12. The Grim Reaper 13. Raging Knightmare 14. Thermidor 2 15. St. Agro 16. Mute

@stevedimmock930

2 жыл бұрын

I think if a 2004-05 series did happen, the seedings would have really depended on things like past success before series 7 and who would have actually come back. For example in that hypothetical series if Razer and Hypno-Disc made returns surely they will have been given a seed, as well as other ones that were previously very successful or well known (such as Dominator, Pussycat, Bigger Brother and Terrorhurtz)

I don't like how they booed Typhoon and implied that they won on a technicality. I thought the robot was great!

@henryault458

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah me 2. I thought I was the only one who agreed with the Judges.

What is with Gary Cairns and arena side walls?

Tornado was definitely pitted there....

@TequilaToothpick

5 жыл бұрын

But why did Refbot push the button?

@mclarenguy22

4 жыл бұрын

The operators deliberately reopened the pit to allow Tornado to continue, which the editors unsuccessfully attempted to disguise, because the producers didn’t want Storm II to win on the basis is was boring.

@lampini

3 жыл бұрын

@@mclarenguy22 I've heard that before but I never understood why they thought storm was boring and not tornado. Maybe because tornado was a veteran I guess.

One Mentorn guy shouted 'You bloody idiot!' after Refbot pressed the pit release when Tornado got stuck as the pit began to descend.

I can understand the final judge's decision. It's not as particularly controversial as I used to think it was. The way the scoring was then that it was even but damage was worth more, so if a robot won on damage and one other category, then they were guaranteed to win.

@classicsportclassictiyl8547

3 жыл бұрын

you could say a judges decision is 100 points split between 4 ways style, contol and aggression is worth 20 each and Damage is worth double points

@ryanodonovan9497

Жыл бұрын

The judges' decision for the Series 7 Grand Final was one of the most moronic ever, and a clear sign of the producers being biased against Storm 2. Whilst the judges got it right that Storm 2 won on control and aggression, they should've also won on damage as well, since Typhoon 2's spinner was dead (even with the officials allowing it to spin back up to full speed, which wouldn't have been allowed with anyone else). That was way worse than Storm 2 losing part of its wedge which was only really cosmetic damage and nothing more. Oh, and that happened _after_ Typhoon 2's weapon was immobilised, so it wasn't even knocked off by the spinner! And even if the spinner was still working, Storm 2 lost a part of its wedge in the closing moments of the battle, and that was nothing compared to all the work the latter did prior. If such minor damage can rule out all of that, why didn't Chaos 2 lose to Pussycat or Stinger in Series 4 when Chaos 2 suffered much worse damage in those battles? And how on Earth did Typhoon 2 win on style when it did nothing but spin around and run away?!

Outrageous decision to give the win to Typhoon 2 over Storm 2. Storm had clearly been by far the more controlled, stylish and aggressive from start to finish. The damage was cosmetic, and the Typhoon weapon was clearly not spinning for the last 30 seconds or so of the fight. It couldn't have been a much clearer win for Storm. As others have said, blatantly the producers intervened, which is shameful really.

If Storm 2 was given the win in the final battle, then every series of Robot Wars (except Series 1) would have a reigning champion (Series 8 had no reigning champion) By the way, Typhoon 2 was perfectly under control in its heat and semi-Final, so what happened here?

@danangell5482

Жыл бұрын

What happened is Storm 2 damaged their weapon. It was really that simple; Storm 2 should have won.

I will play devils advocate Aggression - mostly Storm 2 some Typhoon 2 Style - Typhoon broke the arena wall Damage - Typhoon just got some scratches but ripped of a third of their wedge Control - Storm 2 Also storm 2 one of the fastest robots somehow let storm 2 spin up to speed multiple times like what the hell

wow so... i wasn't in the robot wars circles when it was showing(definitely watched battlebots a few times at my friends house in early 00s), but i personally feel like series 7 was fantastic. i'm curious why there is such backlash against it? from what i'm gathering, it seems like it's due to the program having morphed into more of a sport than a hobby, with seeds, prize money and all that? i've seen complaints about overpowered bots taking over series 7 and beyond, but there is no carbide/tombstone style spinners to completely shred... typhoon 2 was the only bot aside from xterminator to have a brutal spinner weapon. overall, i'm bummed iron awe got bested, as they had great potential. BUT, i audibly cheered when storm 2 beat tornado. series 6 tornado wouldn't have beaten razer so easily if not for their... "weapon swap" and all that. so yes, enjoy 3rd place, tornado, that's fine by me. i also felt that the final match was great. storm 2 was easily the most even match up to typhoon 2, and they TANKED those hits. unfortunately, the thing that sold them short was the lack of a pneumatic flipper. if they were equipped with one of those(almost impossible for a bot as short as them, no?), typhoon would have been done... but without it, they cant really touch typhoon. overall, i feel series 7 was awesome, but now i'm going back to earlier series to try and discover more about the early robot wars nostalgia

That battle between storm 2 and tornado was probably my favourite part of this season. After the last three series of tornado just pushing other robots around it was great to see a robot that could do everything they could but better, just pushing them around.

@domonicredmond1894

2 жыл бұрын

It also adds to the fact that tornados team helped storm 2s team put their robot together so you could say they were defeated by their own creation

Why are Typhoon 2 team dressed like Thunderbirds? They should have played the Thunderbirds theme tune when they came onto screen.

I didn’t know damaging the arena can give damage points Also how did typhoon get any other points when all they did was run away the whole fight

Series 6 is after the specials, right?

@njgw1465

6 жыл бұрын

That's right

@bradyanderson6311

3 жыл бұрын

@@njgw1465 and Nickelodeon's version didn't treat action fans fairly.

when does series 8 begin?

@tyreesetjjoyner1995

6 жыл бұрын

Robot wars series 8 already happened 2 years ago. But the arena, the robots, and the House Robots are a lot different.

As controversial as the final is, I'm happy Typhoon won. It was my favorite robot going in. Storm 2 to me is just another wedge. This final also exemplifies why using plexiglass for your arena walls is a bad idea. An issue they still haven't fixed in the new series.

@TaylorgangCorps

6 жыл бұрын

Um....technically, if the producers ahdn't interfered, Storm 2 would've won. And they DID interfere. Read the wiki. Typhoon's weapon stopped going and the producers said Typhoon sustained NO DAMGAGE. THE WEAPON STOPPED. You can't call that nothing. That's like Polar Bears and GRIZZLY Bears are the same bloody animal. However, I will admit Typhoon was very destructive. The only thing about it I hate is ALL Their robots were the same thing. That became totally boring. And Storm 2 got a robot out of the arena by hammering.

@umxmarky

5 жыл бұрын

​@@TaylorgangCorps wait your gonna trusted the wiki which the "information" was taken from Storm2 Website? sorry but is hard to take the info at face value from someone who was though the world was against him. No doubt the rules were changed in reaction to how dominant Storm2 was in Newblood but the bit about the pit you could argue it shouldn't have been dropped as a competitor hadn't deployed it and the final bit about damage caused to Typhoon2 is very he said she said. We will never know

@TaylorgangCorps

5 жыл бұрын

@@umxmarky Refbot hit the pit button. And the producers kept interferring with Storm 2 ever since it beat Firestorm without using it's weapon. And speaking of weapons, Typhoon's stopped after another clash with Storm 2. Also, when did I say the world was against me?

@umxmarky

5 жыл бұрын

@@TaylorgangCorps wait Refbot is a competitor ?! -_- also according to Ed Hoppitt they where interfering from extreme 2 but hoped something else could of beat it (mute came close if they had used the rear flipper to turn it over the front to launch it) also about the Tyhpoon2 weapon again this is something that is gonna be lost to history. the ICE could have stalled and become flooded so they could not restart it or it had run out of fuel, which again isn't damage, both an arguably due to control and aggression and not damaged. it likes how batteries low or CO2 being depleted isn't damaged. but even so those continue hits against Strom2 would off taken chunks out of storm2 and please ignore the whole left-hand side of storm2 wedge being removed. Also unless you Ed Hoppitt I didn't mean you, would have thought the sentence it was used in would imply that.

@TaylorgangCorps

5 жыл бұрын

@@umxmarky I never said Refbot was a competitor. But we HAVE seen house robots hit the pit button, some times for no freaking reason other than sheer boredom. Also..........while that's true, if Typhoon's weapon was run by a chain and THAT was knocked off in the battle, then I'd consider that to be something major. Besides, Series 7 wasn't my favorite, anyway, cause of the new rule the producers made to keep Robot Wars "exciting". They clearly have never watched an ACTUAL episode of the bloody thing.

20 years ago, This Still stands out as Not only The Most Controversial Grand Final in Robot Wars history But the Most Controversial episode in Robot Wars History, Full Stop!🤯😠

The 1st battle between storm and tornado the pit goes down you can clearly see that but the next shot the pit comes back up giving tornado a chance ? Video @ 14-23 to 14-28

@BenMcKenn

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I think that's because refbot hit the pit for no reason, so would've been a BS way for the fight to end

Wait, Typhoon was more stylish how? They ran away for the entire fight and crashed into the arena wall. Not very stylish in my eyes.

@wisewolftony

5 жыл бұрын

Who the hell understands that scoring area. They give bots pts for being flipped and then self righting because someone getting flipped should give you points as well as long as you flip over. Also the whole BS rule of ohh where gonna let Typhoon spin up to the speed it was at when the fight stopped. Unless the judges knew the wall was gonna get hit and broken before it did then they stopped the fight after Typhoon hit it meaning the weapon was stopped completely meaning they shouldn't be allowed to spin up at all. Yet they allowed them to spin up to full speed why. Then the last thing Damage so I guess they only count mostly just cosmetic damage that Storm 2 took. As none of the damage hurt the bots ability to function while Typhoon's internals got all fucked up breaking the weapon system and no longer being able to spin. But like I said I guess damage that meant nothing and the art of running away and just spinning while the other bot hits and lifts you the entire fight counts as style pts.

I know why you can't damage typhoon it's made out of a tip of a torpedo that's some real harden Steel

I wonder is Typhoon 2 was in this war because of The £20,000 Cash Prize on offer!

Thank god that Storm 2 got their revenge in series 8.

@samuelgiles7571

6 жыл бұрын

Dalek Sram Storm 2’s revenge was mostly on Gary Cairns of PP3D in Series 8 as the PP3D team had two other members who Team Storm never met before

@MarkSW

6 жыл бұрын

Sort of like with Mortis wanting revenge on Rex Garrod.

@TaylorgangCorps

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, except that was just poor driving on Rex's part. And the Mortis team were annoyed they couldn't get a rematch.

@ryanodonovan9497

Жыл бұрын

You can't really call it that. Firstly, it was Mentorn themselves who did Storm 2 dirty; Team Typhoon and the judges only showed up and did what they were told to do. And secondly, apparently Ed Hoppit purchased components that weren't needed in order to con PP3D out of the competition. If so, he really wasn't any better than those who wronged him all those years prior.

Robot Wars' AD21 moment.

37minutes 28 seconds let's call storm 2 firestorm apparently also is typhoon 2 too destructive to keep fighting

Have Tornado's weapons ever actually done any damage?

@cr10001

3 жыл бұрын

The robot is the weapon. (Was it Tornado or Storm said that?) I think that flail weapon was supposed to get under the front of flippers, or something. Hardly needed it.

Storm II shoulda won, pretty sure most people agree, they had the control, aggression, and style. Sorry, Typhoon, but running away doesn't count as style.

Even though I love typhoon 2 I have to agree that it shouldn't have won the grand final against storm 2

to be real storm 2 won that hands down. an the damage they got when that last big push into the wall, they did that to them self . also the ring need to be upgraded a little more i hate seeing a bot pushing a bot across the floor at high only to see it get hung up on the floor . but beside's that i like the show if they were kinda closer to were i stay i would love to bring my 2 bots out to play .

i thought it was 20000k

@tyreesetjjoyner1995

3 жыл бұрын

15 grand down the drain

I wasn't so hot on the heats for this series, I thought that there were probably too many mediocre competitors and not enough strong veterans returning. The semis and final were great though, any machine could have conceivably won any prior series. Too bad about the judging in the final though, Storm 2 were definitely robbed.

@jamesmitchell8922

Жыл бұрын

Blame it on Mentorn.

The amount of conspiracy theorists, jesus.. Imo Typhoon deserved that fair and square. However, best and closest final ever, loved it.

Judges were just...derps in this.

The winners from heats E I O Not sure about exterminator

@tapruslightful

5 жыл бұрын

F...just F. How fitting?

Tornado vs Storm 2 (or would that be Tornado vs Tornado: Next Generation?) lived up to its billing. Neither robot broke even after some massive impacts, both showed their impressive manouvrability. Storm was quite clearly the winner, but it was never a walkover. Typhoon 2 vs X-terminator was a pretty uneven match. Maybe if X-terminator's vertical spinner had been as powerful and solid as Aftershock (in later series), it might have been effective. Tornado vs X-terminator would, I think, have ended with the same result even if X-terminator had been working 100%. It was noticeable what a compact robot Tornado is, X-terminator loomed over it. But X-terminator's vertical spinner just wasn't heavy enough or powerful enough to have much effect on Tornado's solid wedge front. Matilda did some gratuitous damage, including causing Killalot to leak hydraulic fluid on the floor - when are the house jokebots ever going to be more than a nuisance? (Interesting to speculate on how Tornado's wedge might have done against Typhoon 2 - probably even better than Storm 2 did). Okay, as far as I'm concerned Storm 2 won the final. It lost a panel but it was still working 100% at the end of the fight (JP blathering on about 'Storm 2's chase has slowed' was nonsense as usual); Typhoon 2 was barely spinning by the end. I'd say the damage to Storm 2 was minor - didn't affect its functioning at all. I can understand why the judges weren't happy with their own decision. But how did they give 'Style' to Typhoon 2? All it did was spin and run away (when Storm wasn't carting it around the arena).

ok so re watching this its pretty obvious Storm II controlled that fight, they were way more aggressive and controlling, it was really unfortunate they lost a front panel :/ at least they won the world championships!

@gahmivolka

6 жыл бұрын

Yea according to the way they score the fight if they wouldn't have lost that panel it would of been hands down Storm. But even then I still thought Storm had it but I guess damage out weighs control and agression by quite alot with style on Typhoons side too. They both deserve to win both amazing robots.

@classicsportclassictiyl8547

3 жыл бұрын

@@gahmivolka basically you could say 20 points for style, control and aggression and 40 points for damage

What pisses me off is that Mentorn (the guys behind RW) were actively trying every dirty trick in the book to get Storm 2 eliminated. First when Tornado was shoved onto the pit, it was about to go down but then it stopped, lifted up and they were allowed out and yet Storm 2 still won points wise. But then in the final against Typhoon 2, when the arena wall was damaged, Mentorn told the Typhoon team they can make whatever repairs they want but not Storm 2. this is because Mentorn absolutely hates the fact Storm 2 is a rambot and so they enforced the active weapon rule and tried to ruin the team's run throughout the series. and the fact that Typhoon ran away for most of the battle but still won aggravates me even more because Storm 2 did ALL the aggression, ALL the control and ALL the style but Mentorn are a bunch of scumbags who want the team out pronto. TLDR, Storm 2 should've won, Mentorn should not be trying to fix matches and X-Terminator did very very well to get this far. oh and did i mention Typhoon was allowed to spin their weapon before the battle started? yea...nice fucking going Mentorn you bastards!

@benx6549

2 жыл бұрын

You're actually vexed lol

@PokeGuy6

2 жыл бұрын

@@benx6549 You're not wrong there! lol I'm very passionate about Robot Wars and all I wanna see is a good fair fight but when I looked up on the RW wiki that Mentorn was actively trying to rig the matches and of course screw around with Storm 2, it made me mad.

@benx6549

2 жыл бұрын

@@PokeGuy6 Fair enough, I respect your passion 🙂

@robertwalpole5376

Жыл бұрын

@@PokeGuy6 Most of that information was incorrect or greatly warped, the page was (rightfully) deleted ages ago.

@PokeGuy6

Жыл бұрын

@@robertwalpole5376 i see. Thanks for the info

This Grand Final was an absolute train-wreck, say what you will about the "Anti Razer Frame" in Series 6 or how the Series 9 Grand Final was one sided throughout. At least all those fights were fought fairly. I'm still disgusted at the producers treatment of Storm II just from the fact that; 1) They hardly used their weapon. 2) Were fearful of Storm II winning the title just due to it being "Another Tornado". 3) Had the affront to raise the pit when Tornado fell into it. 4) Edit the footage in such an insulting way to assume that we the audience are ignorant enough to not notice. 5) Lie to the Judges about the little damage that Typhoon had sustained when that's bullshit....41:53 Storm II was responsible for some of the best moments in the 7th Wars like throwing Steel Avenger OOTA using nothing but phenomenal drive power, I have nothing against Typhoon 2 or anyone from their team, if anything they were just as worthy of winning the title as the rest of the finalists, It was just in the manner of how that happened that really left a nasty taste to a series that still leaves me conflicted as to whether or not it's a good series or not. All the battles were good don't get me wrong, but the shenanigans regarding Storm II left me feeling disheartened by the end. I'm just glad that the producers in the reboot series treat more like a competition now rather than a show, just on the basis we don't get as much BS as this....

@wisewolftony

5 жыл бұрын

They also said that Typhoon was allowed to spin up to the speed they were at when the fight was stopped.So okay I guess that must mean that Typhoon isn't allowed to spin up until they call the fight back on. Because when they stopped the fight Typhoon hit the wall and was no longer moving. But I guess what they meant is that Typhoon was allowed to spin up to full speed and that we would also move the bots farther away so they can get even more time. Then what the hell does style mean. I heard that being flipped over and self righting earns you some good style points WTF. And I also guess running away and having very little control counts as style. Also they don't understand how damage works as all the damage storm 2 took was purely cosmetic. While Typhoon was damaged so baldy that the weapon had stopped working. But I guess only cosmetic damage counts who cares about damage that actually matters and hampers the bots ability to win. This is why I was always a fan of battlebots. They never tired to be biased or give a fan favorite team advantages or the team they think is more interesting to watch. People can say ohh its just all about damage now and nothing else. But that isn't the case sure you can score a possible 3 pts for damage and only 2 for aggression and control. Yet Robot Wars also tells you that damage means more than any other category. They also don't have a dumb pt system for style that is never defined as what style is. And they seem to understand damage much more as if a bot looks like Storm 2 at the end of this fight. They will say only cosmetic so that is only a point. Yet if the other bot has its weapon not working or its drive damaged then they will award the other team more damage pts even if the outside of the other bot looks fine.

@Dead25m

4 жыл бұрын

I think it was completely fair and good. Idk what conspiracy shit you're hunting after but Typhoon being such an extremely durable spinner like we've never seen before, and so well controlled. It was super close but imo Typhoon did more than Storm, had Storm had a spinner like Tornado, then Storm could've done actual damage and at least gain points in that category. Really good final, best ever, not like the shitfest that was Razer vs Tornado at least.

@NightHawk12to81

4 жыл бұрын

@@Dead25m Storm disabled Typhoon's weapon. It was a one-sided fight; Storm were the clear winner.

@therebel4332

4 жыл бұрын

And Storm 2s team were bang on the money with their analysis pre fight as well,, "once we stop them spinning it'll be curtains for them, we can flip them we push them wherever we wants, I'm not particurly bothered about them",, and that's how the fight went, Typhoon 2 literally did nothing all fight and got rammed all over the shop, for 1 dislodged plate which was caused by them ramming frigging Typhoon 2 into the CPZ it allowed the robbing ba*tards to hand it to Typhoon 2 that's how beyond stupid it was. and that's before the fact Typhoon had stopped spinning anyway. To this day it was beyond ridiculous, it wasn't even controversial it was just plain pettiness and idiocy.

@sirwoollyjumper4893

3 жыл бұрын

Excluding Extremes 1 & 2. In my top 7 Classic Robot Wars Series, Series 7 is the lowest on that list, purely based on how biased the producers were in this series. It was always entertainment over engineering with Mentorn.

Typhoon 2 should’ve been disqualified, the robot was far too dangerous. Every time it hit the wall it was destroying it.

bomb proof much

Storm II's power to weight ratio: 180hp per metric ton.

Typhoon II just ran away almost all the fight. The damage on Storm II were superficial. Typhoon II should be disqualified because it's too dangerous.

The judging stank to high hell in this match. Storm II had Typhoon 2 Air Farce wankers run away like scared children for the majority of the match. Storm II's performance was top notch. It was aggressive, it had superb driving, and it had Typhoon up against the wall numerous times. No wonder series 7 is regarded as naff considering the con job judgement at the end. What a let down. But a huge shout-out to NJGW for posting these shows. Thanks heaps! (Y)

@ryanodonovan9497

Жыл бұрын

Whilst I agree with your point, you're certainly not being very sensible yourself calling Team Typhoon "Air Farce wankers". Not only is that a childish insult, but none of them did anything wrong. The PRODUCERS were the ones who were biased against Storm 2 and conned them out of the competition. Team Typhoon - hell, even the judges - did nothing more than show up and do as they were told.

I've been watching this season through for the first time with no spoilers and Storm 2 were ROBBED

Bigger Brother, Terrorhurtz, and Storm 2 who won heat I have no victory in the grand final of Robot wars because of Razer and Typhoon 2. Razer beaten Bigger Brother & Terrorhurtz, and Typhoon 2 beaten Storm 2.

Too bad Xterminator couldnt really fight after vs Typhoon. Its a bit unfair... and that Matilda's attack

@cr10001

3 жыл бұрын

I think Tornado would have won even if Xterminator had been at 100%. Its vertical spinner wasn't heavy enough to do anything to Tornado's wedge. But yeah, bloody house robots, who needs 'em.

@burzaburza2970

3 жыл бұрын

@@cr10001 Bro if it was able to throw other robot out of arena it was also powerful enough to damage Tornado

@cr-yi7ep

3 жыл бұрын

@@burzaburza2970 As always, depends where you hit it. I specified Tornado's wedge front, which is mostly what Xterminator would meet. If it could have got under the side of Tornado it might have lifted or flipped it. But Tornado is designed to survive that sort of attack, and I think Tornado manouvres quicker than Xterminator. So the odds would still be well on Tornado's side.

Storm 2 were robbed in the final. Pussycat once got disqualified for their blade shattering and going everywhere, yet Typhoon are allowed to send bits of the wall flying twice and are rewarded by their weapon being brought up to speed on the restart.

Imo when Typhoon breaks the wall they shouldnt be allowed to get their speed again

@001phila

3 жыл бұрын

Lack of control on their part yet someone allow to have the weapon at full speed to start. Baffling

Why was it allowed to spin up twice like that? It crashed, the arena is static. Terrible decisions ruining the championship for the second year running.

@user-dp6cw9po5k

4 ай бұрын

And it was the Straw that Broke the Camel's Back as Channel 5 Chose NOT to Commission Series 8 of Robot Wars.

Even now this really irks me how they had the front to give Typhoon the decision. Spent the whole fight running away, thenonly shots they got in were because of Storm 2s aggression and chasing, they were nothing more than defensive hits, the chain coming off, no aggression, no weapon whatsoever by the end of the fight... and they pulled that stunt because of one plate coming off at the end of the fight ffs. Absolute sh!t ar3es and all because they decided who the public should like ffs.

"let's review the highlights of that battle!" Didnt we already do that at the start of the show?

Takes 9 minutes to get to the first fight.

That JD was absolutely terrible. It seemed like Typhoon 2 lost his weapon at the end.

STORM 2 > TYPHOON 2

No clue why Typhoon 2 was allowed to get up to spinning speed on both restarts

33:00

41:50

36:00

37:40

I can see why Typhoon 2 won. That was some serious damage. Did anyone else see it took chunks out of the actual bodywork of Storm 2? It took bits out of the frame! XD

@alexandsimba

6 жыл бұрын

Norris Vaughn Yup people missed that part and just assume storm II damaged itself on that big one.

@gahmivolka

6 жыл бұрын

indeed But I do believe the panel was the big on that put it over the edge into the favor of Typhoon. But as said above that panel would not have fallen off by just Storm ramming like that. That was severely weakened from Typhoon hitting it. I don't get why people are saying that damage shouldn't go to typhoon..

@AppetiteForIllusions

6 жыл бұрын

Bilbo Saggins Because Storm 2 totally broke Typhoons weapon. It stopped working halfway through the fight and they even included a shot of the team trying to power up the spinner but the weapon not even twitching (only displaying how awful the editing in this series was seeing as how mentorn clearly wanted to disguise the fight rigging against Storm). Also Typhoons drive chains fall out the robot near the end of the fight. The damage to Storm 2 however was superficial as it didn't really affect the robots ability to fight. Hope that explains it.

I can't believe Tornado got bailed out not once, but TWICE. First in series 6 where they blatantly cheated with their anti-Razor frame that made it unbelievably hard for Razor to inflict meaningful damage and virtually impossible to pit. And again here where they *raised the pit* because the producers didn't want Storm 2 to win.

God I hate tornado.

Yes Typhoon IS THE WINNER

12:55 WHAT A BUNCH OF BULLSHIT. My God.... I don't care if they still lost, that's some jank...

if that plate hadnt of come off storm they would have won that

39:08

One of the worst judges' decisions in history, though it's really Mentorn's fault for making pathetic excuses to con Storm 2 out of action whilst hiding their bias against the robot, and all because they couldn't get it into their heads that robotic combat's not professional wrestling, and only the better robots in combat should win and not those that might just _look_ more appealing. That part of Storm 2's wedge breaking off wasn't even caused directly by Typhoon 2, and even if it was, it was really superficial and in the final seconds of the battle. Before that, Storm 2 did all the work with its aggression and control to score the victory. And if all of that work could be outdone by such comparatively minor damage, why then didn't Chaos 2 lose to either Pussycat or Stinger in Series 4? I agree that damage is the most important in the scoring criteria, but it was blatantly dwarfed in this case by all Storm 2 did. And how did Typhoon 2 win on style when it did nothing but run away?

It was great to see tornado losing here. Cheated in series 6 against razer.

What people failed to notice was that Typhoon II had taken small chunks of metal off of storm lI if you pay attention to the floor near them. Also that chunk of scoop didn't just fall off from the last slam, it was weakened from the full speed spin of typhoon II teeth. You either give damage points to Typhoon II or take away control points from Storm II for damaging itself. You can't ignore both of them for the fight. Storm II should have rammed typhoon II with the arm which would have thrown it off balance since it's weaker there. They played the shoving box game with a robot with a tough shell. 👎

I'm not happy with the decision either storm won that fight you guys cheated meaning the ones who put on the show the judges or whoever

God it gets worse with every rewatch. Storm was completely cheated out of a victory. You can even tell this was beyond the judges, and it was the producers who had it in for Storm, even typhoon were shocked to win. The damage category has always been controversial but a superficial piece of metal is classed as more damage than Typhoons weapon not working towards the end? 18 years later and it still makes me so angry haha, no wonder the program was cancelled.

Storm and Tornado were the demise of Robot Wars. Boring boxes are not what people wanted to see. They should have made those two fight each other in round one to get rid of one of them. And then hope the other one either breaks or gets beat in the next round. Fortunately Battlebots understood this and made sure that a boring box, Duck!, did not get to compete in the tournament. Winning does not make a bot great. Putting on a show for the fans does. Because these boring boxes refused to put on a show, their show was cancelled.

@SailorWhyachi

5 жыл бұрын

Are you high?. It was more that robot wars was rigged and half the bots were flippers that it got cancelled. Also calling a bot that was shafted " good" speaks to the lengths people will go to see just spinners. Robot wars without tornado and storm would essentially be flippers vs spinners vs razer. Nothing else

@cr10001

3 жыл бұрын

Not 'boring boxes' at all. The *only* way they could win was by actively doing stuff - i.e. manouvring and attacking. That calls for speed and good driving, same as with a flipper. The epitome of boring was Typhoon - run away, spin up and wait for the other bot to attack. Driving hardly comes into it.

What an awful scoring system used by the judges. You can its flawed when even the judges themselves admit the wrong team won.

Typhoon 2 robot is scrap metal

here are two huge reasons I disliked Robot Wars. First it's because they had one of the worst build arena's I have seen. Like can't even count how many times a bot has broken the side wall. Yea lets stop the fight because a small piece of the shortest wall ever that can't stop shit broke. Bots have just run into with no weapon and broken it. 2nd the rules and judging make no sense. First the rule of allowing Typhoon to spin up the speed they were at when the fight was stopped. So ok the speed of them not spinning at all because they hit the wall and completely stopped spinning. No instead I guess they were up to full speed.So does that mean the fight was stopped before they even hit the wall or damaged it. No it was stopped as soon as the damage happened which was when Typhoon had stopped. The other Judging BS like what in the fucking hell is style. I have heard that being flipped over and self righting counts as style. Like WTF so you had something bad happen to you by another machine yet you get points for just simply getting back on the wheels. And then damage. So I guess that means they only count cosmetic damage. Instead of IDK saying Storm 2 us of the wedge damaged Typhoon a good deal internally to the point of it no longer being able to spin up. That is much more meaningful than Storm 2 batteries losing power slowing down a bit and then a small piece of the wedge that is supposed to take hits being taken off. And Robot War fanboys give me shit about Battlebots and that damage is all that happens and they only count that for pts. No a team can win possible 3 pts for damage a possible 2 for control and a possible 2 for aggressiveness. If this fight took place in Battlebots wall takes no damage the fight keeps with Typhoon no longer spinning and storm 2 on top of them. Then when it goes to the judges maybe just maybe at best Typhoon gets 2 damage pts but Storm gets at least 1 if not 2 for killing their weapon. Then control Storm gets 100% both points. And then aggression At worst for Storm they split that down the middle. So your looking at worst Storm 2 winning that fight by a score of 4-3.

We all know who won

Team tornado sucks xD i´ll never forget how they cheated...

@WillyWarby

5 жыл бұрын

XD So true

@TequilaToothpick

5 жыл бұрын

Your memory is faulty. They never cheated.

@WillyWarby

5 жыл бұрын

@@TequilaToothpick *cough* *cough* tell that too almost the whole RW Fanbase

@WillyWarby

5 жыл бұрын

@@TequilaToothpick After Chaos 2 Beat razer in RW In the 4th Wars they added mods that were good but also shitty because it was a plot for cheating and Razer isnt a flipper that could get a Robot OOTA also how was Razer Gonna win ? the house robots were getting shittier and razer couldnt pierce the Box body because of the mod they installed in Series 6 GRAND FINAL tOrNadO diDNt chEAT gUYs i think ive explained alot

@TequilaToothpick

5 жыл бұрын

@@WillyWarby Razer didn't lose to Chaos 2 in the fourth wars... But what does that have to do with Tornado? Yes, Razer couldn't pierce the body of Tornado because of Tornado's excellent frame spinner. Just like how Cassius couldn't be immobilised by being flipped because it invented the Scrimech. But how did Tornado cheat?