Robin Le Poidevin - What's Real About Time?

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Time seems natural and absolute: the flow of moments, one following another, from the unknown past to the knife’s edge present to the unknowable future. But perhaps this is not so. Einstein shocked the world by showing that time was relative. What’s the latest about time?
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Robin Le Poidevin is Emeritus Professor of Metaphysics at the University of Leeds whose interests include the nature and experience of time, agnosticism, and philosophy of religion. He is also the past president of The British Society for the Philosophy of Religion.
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  • @thickdickwad7736
    @thickdickwad7736 Жыл бұрын

    Excellence conversation, very informative and fascinating ! ❤❤❤

  • @stevemartin6267
    @stevemartin626711 ай бұрын

    Great discussion. It seems that the only conclusion I can draw from it is that it is our perception of time that moves and we witness and experience events in a sequential order. Thinking about time through a philosophical lens is an important part of better understanding the complexity of what we don't understand.

  • @REDPUMPERNICKEL

    @REDPUMPERNICKEL

    2 ай бұрын

    "our perception of time" Something to ponder: We cannot perceive time because we have no organs for it.

  • @Resmith18SR
    @Resmith18SR11 ай бұрын

    We are here and live for a short time and then we're gone forever. That's all that really matters.

  • @Kritiker313
    @Kritiker31311 ай бұрын

    There's a certain comfort that comes from the knowledge that we are not permanent here. I don't relish the process of dying but I do look forward to entering into peace, serenity and comfort as I leave behind worry and despair.

  • @bennyskim
    @bennyskim Жыл бұрын

    Fascinating! He nailed it on the description of relativistic time (at first). Here's how I think of it, in the form of a thought experiment: Imagine 2 stars, Star A and Star B - both stars burn out at the exact same time. If you're very near Star A and very far from Star B, then Star A burned out first, but if you're very near Star B, and far from A, then B burned out first. The very concept of the "order of events" is not an absolute measurement. For that reason, there is no such thing as an "arrow of time" and the passage of time does not exist. I disagree with the guest on a few things though: - He says time is more like a space: Time is not like a space - for the same reasons that he so eloquently pointed out that time is illusory, space is also illusory. That reason is still relativity. Concepts like distance are not absolute, just like duration of time is not absolute. - He says there is still an order of events: I disagree, and man, it was so well-worded at first, but is completely undone by this statement. The whole point of relativity is that things and events are relative to each other - there is no absolute order of events (see Star A & B thought experiment above). - "Asymmetry" I really think this is the wrong way to go, this sounds like treating time or space as a physical construct, now he has to explain this novel idea of symmetry of events, and why that is relevant. I would answer RLK's great question of how does one reconcile free will with deterministic events, like this: Time is not deterministic, it doesn't even exist. 99% of the universe is just fine without time, it's not until you encounter huge, flashy, changing objects and conscious beings observing and remembering, that time emerges. So we're talking about a very specific, interesting thing happening way out on a random branch on the outskirts of "the universe", a place like earth with humans, we evolved the great concept of "time" - a tool that doesn't even work on most space scales (e.g. subatomic, supergalactic, etc.) and is only relevant because we wake, sleep, and die, and view day and night cycles, and measure other "events". Asking if the future is deterministic is like asking if the wobble from spinning a top is deterministic. In some ways, yes, if you can control enough variables it is as deterministic as anything else, and when we can control those variables, we - conscious humans even - will someday be freed from time. At some point when we have solved for death, and are collaborating on a higher level.

  • @Slo-ryde

    @Slo-ryde

    11 ай бұрын

    Nicely said !

  • @anhta9001

    @anhta9001

    11 ай бұрын

    Back to your example of the 2 stars, I think there's confusion here. What you describe as the order of events is not exactly the order of events, isn't it? I think it's more like the order of received signals.

  • @REDPUMPERNICKEL

    @REDPUMPERNICKEL

    2 ай бұрын

    "we evolved the great concept of "time"" You nailed the fact that "time" is a concept and for emphasis, I will add, "time" is a concept ONLY. (Those who assert, 'time is an illusion', would be more accurate in asserting, 'time is a delusion'. This because *illusion* is erroneous belief arising from perception and there is no perception of time as there are no time sensing organs. On the other hand, *delusion* is a false belief arising for reasons other than perception. The delusion that time is an actuality in the universe arises in consequence of the way we are educated, the fact that the temporal concept is ubiquitous in our language (every sentence has a tense, etc.) and the effect of science fiction like... H. G. Wells', 1895, "The Time Machine", the 19th episode of Star Trek, 1967, "Tomorrow Is Yesterday", 1984, "The Terminator", 1985, "Back to the Future", 2012, "Looper", etc. We might say, our culture perpetuates the delusion. Einstein deserves mention for his treating of the temporal concept as though it were a traversable dimension. Of course, those who have achieved the realization that "time" is a concept only are not deluded. Still, time travel is possible... but only in imagination). There is matter and there is movement and all the rest is abstract and I suspect that movement may be abstract too... because of its relative nature.

  • @bennyskim

    @bennyskim

    2 ай бұрын

    @@REDPUMPERNICKEL You get it! Time travel: If we take this as fact that time doesn't exist, that means to "travel" through it isn't really "travel" but simply: Making all the variables equal what they did in the target year. For example, to "time travel to 1836" is to make all of the variables you will possibly interact with amount to the values they did in 1836. Because time isn't an object, it's just an interpretation, this would work as flawlessly as porting a game from Mac to Windows.

  • @bennyskim

    @bennyskim

    2 ай бұрын

    @@anhta9001 "the order of received signals" precisely! Extrapolate

  • @iscottke
    @iscottke11 ай бұрын

    This guy is brilliant. Thanks for interviewing him.

  • @BLSFL_HAZE
    @BLSFL_HAZE Жыл бұрын

    Both the remembrance of earlier moments and the anticipation of later moments make the constant change of the present moment (in which all remembrance and anticipation occurs) SEEM to be a movement "from" earlier moments "to" later moments. In this way, remembrance and anticipation make the present moment SEEM to be a "movement through time". However, as both earlier and later moments are not actually anywhere, the present moment cannot actually be a movement through time. The apparent movement is the illusion of time. Change itself is logically beginningless and endless, and is therefore timelessly present.

  • @ganazby

    @ganazby

    Жыл бұрын

    Nicely put. Sages from both the Hindu (particularly the Advaita Vedanta branch) and Buddhist traditions have consistently negated the existence of time.

  • @cjbailey584
    @cjbailey58411 ай бұрын

    Wonderful discussion even though I had to listen to it many times to grasp the concept!! Thank you.

  • @bboss8048
    @bboss8048 Жыл бұрын

    That is some intense eye contact

  • @clownworld-honk410
    @clownworld-honk410 Жыл бұрын

    I agree with him. I did tomorrow and I will yesterday. 🤔

  • @economicsmajor

    @economicsmajor

    Жыл бұрын

    Let's be friends?

  • @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC

    @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC

    Жыл бұрын

    *"I agree with him. I did tomorrow and I will yesterday."* *Time Travelers' Motto:* _"Never do yesterday what you can do two weeks ago."_

  • @gaogouli098
    @gaogouli098 Жыл бұрын

    Our perception of the directionality of the times (arrow of the time) aries from the entropy increases (second law of thermodynamics). We "feel" a more deterministic past (low entropy) and a more chaotic future (high entropy).

  • @aarrvindmbd1974
    @aarrvindmbd1974 Жыл бұрын

    I keep a simple anology All possible timelines are films,stored somewhere, One of the frame is the now , All possible now are being playing at every point

  • @simka321
    @simka321 Жыл бұрын

    To understand the reality of the present moment for ourselves (subjectively), one must discard all chronological conceptions about about what this is, and defamiliarize the notions about what we've misunderstood as "time" by starting anew. So, first of all: What is do we have now? We have memories (the known), expectations (the still unknown), and the knowing that comprises the present. The mental experience of holding this threefold image of where we are makes up the now-moment. What is salient to the subject is not so much having an abstract idea about what this threefold thought about the now-moment, but the emotional value we give to it. For the individual person (I'm not speaking about the scientist's understand of duration), this now-moment consist of the threefold attitude of how we feel about our memories, how we feel about what we anticipate will happen to us, and the present juncture which binds of the three together harmoniously in the mind and heart in the face of what's happening now. The ancients had a much more elegant verbal formula for this temporal emotional structure formed from kairos. They called it, "Faith, Hope, and Love."

  • @EugeneKhutoryansky
    @EugeneKhutoryansky Жыл бұрын

    Even in relativity, time is different from the 3 spatial dimensions in that time has the opposite sign when determining the space-time interval. But what really shatters the view of time as just another dimension is quantum probability, where the past is determined but our future has not been written yet.

  • @DeaderEyeland_1983
    @DeaderEyeland_1983 Жыл бұрын

    I always find it fascinating that time is solely dependent on movement lol. If everything could be utterly still moment, time would simply cease ... Also, the Block Universe we live in according to Einstein, supports hard determinism.

  • @pjaworek6793

    @pjaworek6793

    Жыл бұрын

    Unless we're in 'many worlds'

  • @DeaderEyeland_1983

    @DeaderEyeland_1983

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol you must know me from my main channel 😂

  • @DeaderEyeland_1983

    @DeaderEyeland_1983

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@pjaworek6793 P.S. MWIoQM is already true if one interprets the hypothesis accordingly. The only debate is whether or not there's a universal wave function.

  • @djtall3090

    @djtall3090

    Жыл бұрын

    begs the question then, was there time before matter?

  • @DeaderEyeland_1983

    @DeaderEyeland_1983

    Жыл бұрын

    @@djtall3090 Nope because energy is massless.

  • @vitr1916
    @vitr1916 Жыл бұрын

    In fact, our thoughts or other living things (animals…) could go back and forward in time and this is wonderful characteristic for adapting and improving our cycles of daily activities. Even our body chemicals will continue to change with our thoughts.

  • @jeremymr
    @jeremymr11 ай бұрын

    “Difficult to see, always in motion is the future.” - Yoda

  • @lordemed1
    @lordemed1 Жыл бұрын

    Luv it when Robert says "I really want to know what reality is." For real? 😉

  • @Slo-ryde

    @Slo-ryde

    11 ай бұрын

    We will know it at the moment of death.

  • @mr1234567899111
    @mr1234567899111 Жыл бұрын

    A nice interpretation and yet an introduction to my novel "Time" without the presence of the conscious and the unconscious referenced in the narrative.

  • @Robinson8491
    @Robinson8491 Жыл бұрын

    I suddenly realized yesterday that space is pretty weird too

  • @jacksonvaldez5911
    @jacksonvaldez5911 Жыл бұрын

    6:38 The asymetry he is referring to is the second law of thermodynamics which creates the direction that we percieve time.

  • @Catdad76801
    @Catdad76801 Жыл бұрын

    Good one!

  • @w8biatvrepeater638
    @w8biatvrepeater638 Жыл бұрын

    It’s time to look for another Closer to Truth video.

  • @bparcej6233
    @bparcej623311 ай бұрын

    Past gives us context, present offers potentialities, future fulfils the potentialities….our ancestors observed the patterns that occurred in nature (solar, migratory etc) and adapted accordingly.

  • @prestonmack320
    @prestonmack320 Жыл бұрын

    That dude never blinks

  • @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC

    @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC

    Жыл бұрын

    *"That dude never blinks"* ... Given enough _time,_ he will blink.

  • @patientson
    @patientson Жыл бұрын

    Love used in a vague way is the issue of humanity, especially those who think themselves superior to a patient one

  • @ItsEverythingElse
    @ItsEverythingElse Жыл бұрын

    If what you do tomorrow is caused by what you do today, then what you do today was caused by what you did yesterday.

  • @christophergame7977
    @christophergame7977 Жыл бұрын

    Try using one hand to write marks for the ticks of the clock in your other hand. Yes, causation is the key.

  • @FalkFlak
    @FalkFlak Жыл бұрын

    I hear event so often in this discussions. What's the definition of an event? When does it start, when does it end? Or is it a pointlike incident without start and finish? Then how do you distuingish them? Sound like you could just set the whole universe as an event, then there is no before and after and you dont need time (you still need order).

  • @aleksas224

    @aleksas224

    Жыл бұрын

    IMHO smallest event would be just a change of some property. Like location of particle or its velocity. Basically change of some sorts. And it's all relative to the scale. From your perspective event could be maybe a ball hitting a wall but if we go to the scale of single cell, then event could be piece of protein getting built or something.

  • @patientson
    @patientson Жыл бұрын

    If I hate an enemy, 80-99 percent of that destruction has already started in the one that capitalised on the hatred. Patience on the other hand, starts a new journey of character achieved from impromptu suffering and endurance. This is acausal. Patience solemnly requires you to actively observe and do in the moment, all in one go.

  • @aren8798
    @aren8798 Жыл бұрын

    I finally figured out the series. It is Just like circling the drain. Because once they actually find the truth then the show ends

  • @janthonycologero9206

    @janthonycologero9206

    Жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @mikefinn
    @mikefinn11 ай бұрын

    All of a person's futures may end in the same place but the paths may vary based on free will and choices we make. So, both are true. We have free will in a deterministic universe.

  • @Felipe-zl1rj
    @Felipe-zl1rj Жыл бұрын

    I've suffered so much in the past. That would mean I'm agonizing for ever. No comfort at all.

  • @KestyJoe
    @KestyJoe Жыл бұрын

    Excellent discussion on a difficult topic

  • @jacksonvaldez5911
    @jacksonvaldez5911 Жыл бұрын

    By far the best closer to truth episode!!!

  • @JoseBarahonaes
    @JoseBarahonaes8 ай бұрын

    Time is change!

  • @mountainair
    @mountainair Жыл бұрын

    I take no comfort knowing past times are just as real as present, given the horrors of human history.

  • @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC

    @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC

    Жыл бұрын

    *"I take no comfort knowing past times are just as real as present, given the horrors of human history."* ... They aren't. Past events are merely precursors to future events. That's why two people stand in a ring with padded gloves instead of in an arena with swords.

  • @mountainair

    @mountainair

    Жыл бұрын

    @@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC Certainly seems that way, but it's important to note like many other aspects of Physics, just because something appears to be some way to us, doesn't always make it so. We may live in a block universe and not even know it, blinded by the fact we are constrained to seeing a moment at a time.

  • @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC

    @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@mountainair *"Certainly seems that way, but it's important to note like many other aspects of Physics, just because something appears to be some way to us, doesn't always make it so."* ... Physicists enjoy a unique status in that they can present "fantastic theories" that would otherwise be lampooned had they be presented by a layperson. And any pushback on theories presented by PhD-clad physicists draws scorn and ridicule form their many lesser-brained simps who wish to be seen just as "brainy" as the physicists who present them. You see this demonstrated in many KZread comments where a trendy quantum mechanics phrase is quoted with no supporting argument or context. The only reliable, repeatable, and predictable tool you have at your disposal to combat the brainy physicists and their lesser-brained supporters is *"logic."* Physicists are perfectly welcome to introduce their fantastic theories to the world, but the instant they cross the line from _logical_ to _illogical,_ ... then whatever fantastic theory they are presenting should be held with an equal amount of skepticism. I have no problem whatsoever with general relativity as long as whatever follows still adheres to logic. However, when this gets expanded to the point where the past, present and future are speciously woven into a single moment ... then they no longer have my support. Even brainy physicists can be wrong.

  • @longcastle4863

    @longcastle4863

    Жыл бұрын

    @@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC I think you miss the point; if a novice or amateur could come up with a great new idea that really works and had all kinds of new wonderful technology pouring off if it, demonstrating it is indeed the real deal… He/She would be praised (in a heartbeat), respected, asked to talk at all kinds of conferences and probably win the Nobel Prize.

  • @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC

    @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC

    Жыл бұрын

    @@longcastle4863 *"if a novice or amateur could come up with a great new idea that really works and had all kinds of new wonderful technology pouring off if it, demonstrating it is indeed the real deal… He/She would be praised (in a heartbeat), respected, asked to talk at all kinds of conferences and probably win the Nobel Prize."* ... What kinds of amazing, new technology is pouring off of the past, present and future being considered the same? What new, ground-breaking technology is the result of string theory? Which universe within the infinite multiverse has the most amount of new technology spewing from it? And are the Nobel Prizes that are handed out inside our simulation real or just a simulation like everything else? And in a "Many Worlds" parallel universe, is there a version of you that agrees with me?

  • @oliviamaynard9372
    @oliviamaynard9372 Жыл бұрын

    He did a great job communicating very hard ideas

  • @DeaderEyeland_1983

    @DeaderEyeland_1983

    Жыл бұрын

    I always enjoy your positive vibes comments 😊

  • @oliviamaynard9372

    @oliviamaynard9372

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DeaderEyeland_1983 thank you

  • @covid19alpha2variantturboc7

    @covid19alpha2variantturboc7

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DeaderEyeland_1983 "PoSiTiVe ViBeS" woo woo LOL next tell us about your belief in pixie dust! 😂😂😂

  • @covid19alpha2variantturboc7

    @covid19alpha2variantturboc7

    Жыл бұрын

    @@oliviamaynard9372 no such thing as "hard ideas" LMFAO! 😅

  • @solapowsj25
    @solapowsj2511 ай бұрын

    Measurable duration.

  • @jerrymuns
    @jerrymuns Жыл бұрын

    Seems like we are living in temporal bodies within an eternal moment. It’s not time moving forward, but multiple cycles completing and beginning again into perpetuity, but only now.

  • @dumpsky

    @dumpsky

    Жыл бұрын

    that makes no sense. 'cycles completing', 'beginning again' by definition would involve passage of time. ;-)

  • @jerrymuns

    @jerrymuns

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dumpsky that’s the illusion. Everything happens in repeating cycles. Cycles taking place at different rates, within multiple perspectives makes time relative and not concrete……therefore to me time seems to be an illusion.

  • @bitkurd

    @bitkurd

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dumpsky except if that time doesn't start nor it ends then you can't call it time

  • @dumpsky

    @dumpsky

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jerrymuns if there are cycles, there is time. obviously.

  • @billwassner1433

    @billwassner1433

    Жыл бұрын

    I've read a lot of philosophy over the years, but one of the most profound observations was that of a friend many years ago when we were in our twenties, and I think it relates to your comment. We had just returned from visiting her mom who was dying in the hospital. As we quietly sat sipping coffee at the kitchen table she said, "It strikes me that we always live in the now. Someday I'll be lying on my deathbed and it will be right now."

  • @Resmith18SR
    @Resmith18SR11 ай бұрын

    I have no time for this!!!😂😂😂

  • @wagfinpis
    @wagfinpis Жыл бұрын

    We are temporal beings, he mentions. What does that mean for those of us who reflect on the past more than others or those who see moments of the future? When my friends and I were all in our twenties, I had a reputation among my friends for being the one who was always bringing up memories from the past. We were all young, full of energy, and my friends wanted to do new things not remember things from the past. I have had somewhere around 100 dreams of exact moments of experience 1 and 2 decades in the future, years, months, weeks, days, hours and even minutes into the future. I identify as a temporal being in some sense but not completely.

  • @Slo-ryde

    @Slo-ryde

    11 ай бұрын

    Then you can call yourself a clairvoyant!

  • @Veed.l0
    @Veed.l0 Жыл бұрын

    Robin is the next Doctor

  • @brothermine2292

    @brothermine2292

    Жыл бұрын

    Having a Tardis would be more comforting than thinking your deceased loved ones "still exist" in the past... which I think is only slightly more comforting than thinking they "existed" in the past.

  • @kipponi

    @kipponi

    Жыл бұрын

    Dr. Who. My favourite serie. I want Tardis.

  • @pjaworek6793
    @pjaworek6793 Жыл бұрын

    This is by far the most interesting concept, what time really is given relativity, qm, etc.

  • @picksalot1
    @picksalot1 Жыл бұрын

    Einstein said: “this separation between past, present, and future is only an illusion, if a stubborn one,” though there are a couple of distinctions that show they are not equally real. The Present is different from the Past, and the Future, as those two do not have a concurrent existence in the Present, nor do they have any spatial location. The Present always exists. Objects can only undergo change in the Present, not the Past or Future. Time is like a field on the side of a mountain. Any object that exists is located somewhere on that field. The higher up the mountain, the lower the entropy. The experience of a change in time is actually a change in entropy. Entropy tends to increase, and this gives a direction to how things change, and that makes it look like time is flowing. Place a ball on the "Entropy Field," and it will naturally roll down the hill unless acted upon by an additional force.

  • @ingenuity168
    @ingenuity168 Жыл бұрын

    I don't like remembering the past. It doesn't give me happiness. When people die, it's the end.

  • @streamofconsciousness5826
    @streamofconsciousness5826 Жыл бұрын

    Nothing is where is seems to be, even the Planets and their Moons are minutes further in their orbit than what we see. When we look into deep space we are looking back in time, the events we are seeing happened a long time ago and are still happening, that combination of light and shadow that represent a event are moving away from the source at the speed of light and towards us. If we could focus a lense on a distant Planet and be able to focus on a acre or less we would be seeing what happened there hundreds or thousands of years ago. Though we can't interact with the event, we can watch it unfold long after it happened.

  • @EdwardAmesCastellano
    @EdwardAmesCastellano Жыл бұрын

    Does time even know of itself, in other words is there an awareness by itself, or only by events and those subject to it?

  • @kos-mos1127

    @kos-mos1127

    Жыл бұрын

    Time is not a thing so there would be no way for time to have awareness.

  • @joelmichaelson2133
    @joelmichaelson2133 Жыл бұрын

    Time must not be real when you think time has a beginning.

  • @edwardtutman196
    @edwardtutman196 Жыл бұрын

    Universe is a paradox, and so is time. Time is both now and arrowing.

  • @user-ij6vg8xq2r
    @user-ij6vg8xq2r Жыл бұрын

    Maybe Something beyond time selects "undesirable bits" for deletion. That would be nice.

  • @stephenwatts2649
    @stephenwatts264911 ай бұрын

    The reason for our becoming self-conscious, or self-aware, creatures will become apparent later on, when we begin exploring the nature of being human in greater detail. But this human self-consciousness is something quite different in nature to the reality of the Consciousness that lies behind and within everything to appear as the myriad forms in existence. Consciousness inhabits and animates creation and its creatures not unlike the power that flows through a computer to make it work in accordance with the hardware and software of the device. By this analogy, the specific physical characteristics of a creature’s body constitute the hardware, and the programming of its mind the software. These things are important to understand because if this conceptual ground is not firm, the model we build from here will not endure, and its potential value will be lost. What all this is pointing to is that what you really are―what we all are―is an eternal, unlimited energy source capable of creating and experiencing events. What you are is this creative source, this Consciousness. Who you are is how this Consciousness works through you to express as something unique in the world. Powerful creative Consciousness is your true and essential nature, but of course, you experience your life through the limitations of a human body, so it may not seem that you are an all-powerful being at times, or indeed ever. By its very nature, the body exists as some ‘thing’ and is, therefore, a limitation or restriction of ‘everything else possible’, to become something specific and useful―a human being. And then it must be remembered that these bodies we inhabit are a product of Mother Earth, and have developed for good reasons. Although today there are many philosophes, theories and just sheer guesses put forward to explain the purpose of our existence, none of them fully describe or satisfactorily explain the original intention for our emergence. Some bodies born into this world have, or will develop over time, physical or mental attributes that further alter the creative opportunities and experiences available to them in a lifetime. The influence of our national culture, the general culture of our times, and the impact of our upbringing by parents and other significant people also become major influences that can place limitations on our thinking and power. Other restrictions occur as a result of the pains we might experience in life, the emotions that often get buried in the body as a result, and the accumulating limited beliefs they then give rise to. There is also the concept of ‘karmic debt’ that will limit opportunities, and this too will be discussed later in the work. The state of your own evolved Consciousness is another factor affecting personal power. All these things limit the opportunities you have in life, and so it can be seen that although your true nature is something quite grand, you find yourself in very limiting circumstances. But it is important to keep perspective. Your essential nature is a free and unlimited Consciousness, a potential capable of eternal creation and experience. And this Consciousness was the reality before the Universe that we know emerged.

  • @nealwailing3870
    @nealwailing3870 Жыл бұрын

    Time is like a sea made from water droplets; eons made up of moments

  • @bbouchan1
    @bbouchan1 Жыл бұрын

    How long does the present last???

  • @brentwinfield5713
    @brentwinfield5713 Жыл бұрын

    Damn, I’m late!!!

  • @micronda
    @micronda Жыл бұрын

    Past, present and future exist in a space-time continuum. Einstein still exists but is out of range of my 'now' moment.

  • @scottmiller4585

    @scottmiller4585

    Жыл бұрын

    If all the moments of your life existed simultaneously as a sequence of events what would anchor you to a particular "now"? If all past, present and future exist simultaneously, what makes "now" special that you find yourself in this particular now of the trillions of moments comprising your timeline?

  • @micronda

    @micronda

    Жыл бұрын

    @@scottmiller4585 A: The fabric of space-time. B: Me, myself and Irene.

  • @nathan4599
    @nathan4599 Жыл бұрын

    the future is now and now and now andnowandnowandnow

  • @mother3crazy
    @mother3crazy Жыл бұрын

    We feel like when we move we’re walking into the future, but time passes even when you’re standing still so you could say time is really more like an ocean wave moving backwards washing over all of us. We can walk into the tide or stand still but time will keep flowing at us anyway

  • @zbyszeks3657
    @zbyszeks3657 Жыл бұрын

    Wow! Really interesting. Maybe time doesn't flow. Maybe time IS some kind of space. Maybe it is us who moves through that space, we call time, and maybe we exist in the past, we exist in the present and we exist in the future with one important feature, from present we can influence both - past and the future of ours :) So in the "now", we can influence literally everything - past, future and now, of course in correlated way :)

  • @pjaworek6793

    @pjaworek6793

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey, now you're talking. Yes, within ourselves, there's no confines of the order of time. In so far as we can accurately remember/access experiences across different times. Incidentally, all of our 5 senses and every thought are (or could be) based on relationships of our physical states at different times (presummably in the 'past' but what if physically some state is in the future?). A 4d model of sorts so all "memories" and thoughts should be there physically across time as simply the feeling of a particular states of your physical body. How you can access future states is another question but I've seen things that point to just what I think you're saying. One thing, a for example, a flavour of a colour or meld any sense you can imagine. I think there's a kind of flavour to every sense and flavour is actually some way you feel at some point in time (the external and your internal environment) and that could be in the future. Creeps me out thinking about it.

  • @marishkagrayson
    @marishkagrayson Жыл бұрын

    Time, like space, is probably an emergent property; a feature of the universe that resulted at the instant of the Big Bang. Where reality, as we perceive it, was formed out of a timeless (spaceless) beginning. However, I am not a proponent of the Block universe, even though relativity points in that direction that all Times, present, past and future are equivalent primarily because entropy causes an asymmetry between events and if time orders events then entropy is the great scrambler. In the presence of strong gravity or acceleration personal time (events in the same frame of reference) slows down relative to other clocks in different frames. But in the end, the great scrambler will unravel all the ordered events in the Heat Death of the universe and there will be no sense of personal time because there will be nothing relativistic to compare it to.

  • @r2c3
    @r2c3 Жыл бұрын

    how could the experience of time be without a beginning and an ending stage or is it the other way around 🤔

  • @kos-mos1127

    @kos-mos1127

    Жыл бұрын

    We do not need a beginning or ending stage to experience time . We just need a memory of events that have occurred.

  • @r2c3

    @r2c3

    Жыл бұрын

    the memories need to be distinguished from oneanother by some sort of arrangement which in the case of time dependence, they will require a time stamp...

  • @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC

    @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC

    Жыл бұрын

    *"how could the experience of time be without a beginning and an ending stage or is it the other way around "* ... The minimum requirement for establishing time is a beginning point. If a single "something" was all that existed, yet it remained unchanged, then time is not present. However, the moment it changes, then time becomes present for as long as it continues to change. The instant it ceases to change, then time ceases as well. However, should it suddenly start changing again, then time is reestablished. You could measure the timespan from when it ceased to change to when it started changing again based on the time period it was continuously changing before it ceased to change. As far as the necessity for an endpoint in time goes, as long as some type of change is occurring, time will be present. So, unless something is "standing in the way" of continuous change, ... then time can infinitely exist (no endpoint).

  • @r2c3

    @r2c3

    Жыл бұрын

    @@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC hello again 1... after thinking about time for awhile, I've come to the conclusion that, the true nature of time is beyond my current 'conceivability' (borrowing your terminology here :) as a human being.... there is only one way to challenge our current time experience, and that is if time travel was somehow possible... and even if it was, can we experience it, physically... "If a single 'something' was all that existed, yet it remained unchanged, then time is not present" if something doesn't change, in reference to our notion of time, then how could we possibly understand its true nature... can you transfer yourself in the form of data/information to a different physical you... is that even possible... "time can infinitely exist" we are again at the crossroads and we can only see so far ahead to know where each direction will lead us... ofcourse, the infinity path is one of the directions but how confident are we of its true nature when our working sample is so miniscule in comparison... if what we know for sure is our reasoning abilities and past experiences (a little more than nothing, that is), are you willing to let go of either one and make a different choice instead...

  • @bobcabot
    @bobcabot Жыл бұрын

    ...there is a strange saying: if you hit someone with a hammer he knows what time is

  • @markpmar0356
    @markpmar0356 Жыл бұрын

    There has to be something "real" about time due to the fact that it is affected by both velocity and mass.

  • @DeaderEyeland_1983

    @DeaderEyeland_1983

    Жыл бұрын

    It's real, but is it fundamental is the question

  • @Slo-ryde

    @Slo-ryde

    11 ай бұрын

    Time is just a different form of energy….without energy there is no mass, without mass there is no space time.

  • @tadmorrison
    @tadmorrison Жыл бұрын

    Time is both easy and difficult to understand. I think of it this way. Say you have universe with no particles in it. What does 'distance' mean in that universe? How about a universe with only one particle; how does that affect the situation? Only when when we have two separate particles with space between them do we have any concept of 'distance'. Therefore, 'distance' is not a property of reality, but a way of describing the properties of the universe. Time exists because the universe exists, and especially due to the presence of matter and energy in the universe. Entropy supplies the direction of time. If there is no universe for matter and energy to exist, time does not exist. Like the concept of distance, time is a product of the dynamic properties of the universe, not a reality in itself. .

  • @REDPUMPERNICKEL

    @REDPUMPERNICKEL

    Жыл бұрын

    Why not go a step farther and assert time is a concept only, a concept obviously derived from our thoughts about objects moving relative to each other?

  • @ansleyrubarb8672
    @ansleyrubarb867212 күн бұрын

    ...To respond I would like to offer, Time/Space moves as a Turbulent Flow. Which also produces Eddie's & Vortices effecting not only in us but every other person. As far as I see, only man keeps track of Time. Time/Space seems critical to our lives. The moment Now never is present. As soon as it happens, so Now is gone, does not linger, it links Past & Future, respectfully, Chuck...captivus brevis...you tube...Blessings...

  • @harishkumarpathangay841
    @harishkumarpathangay8412 ай бұрын

    Measurement of time is only relativistic not time itself. My tiny brain thinks that way.

  • @patientson
    @patientson Жыл бұрын

    Your patience allows now to transpire.

  • @gehteuchnixan9027
    @gehteuchnixan9027 Жыл бұрын

    There is no time at all. Time is just interaction on a particle level. And interaction on particle level means always moving thru space. That is why space and time is connected. You would not measure time, if a system not move and not change. And from the view of a system moving thru space, there is always only a certain change possible, because change bases on invested energy. In my view, energy, space and matter is the same.

  • @user-ry2qs7xf9k
    @user-ry2qs7xf9k Жыл бұрын

    The mind can't understand time by itself.

  • @renko9067
    @renko906711 ай бұрын

    This moment is not in time, it is eternal. What we think are subject and objects are merely modulations within a single wave function, or what Zen refers to as One Mind. Because it is One, it is incomparable and therefore without dimension. Because it is One, there is nothing to travel through it and nothing for it to travel through, so no time. *IT* is an eternal, incomparable, impersonal field of infinite possibilities dreaming.

  • @Resmith18SR
    @Resmith18SR11 ай бұрын

    Time is something my fake Rolex measures. 😂😂😂

  • @pergatron

    @pergatron

    11 ай бұрын

    lololol best commet yet

  • @holgerjrgensen2166
    @holgerjrgensen216611 ай бұрын

    Time, do Only exists in the Mind of Living Beings. Life-side. Time is the 'shadow' of Motion, Stuff-side.

  • @kimsahl8555
    @kimsahl8555 Жыл бұрын

    Past and future is in quantity equal.

  • @kimguy4159
    @kimguy4159 Жыл бұрын

    This guy makes a distinction without a difference about whether the universe is deterministic

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    Жыл бұрын

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    Жыл бұрын

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    Жыл бұрын

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  • @DeanHorak
    @DeanHorak Жыл бұрын

    Time flows in both directions as per QM. However, since we can only accumulate memory in the forward direction (the backward direction would erase memory), we only experience time in the forward direction.

  • @blijebij

    @blijebij

    Жыл бұрын

    In a way Time is just change, and if you see the Universe as a whole, it can just go forward as a process. If you look at quantum states it can go both ways. But what Time is, so far nobody has solved at its essense.

  • @stevenlagoe7808

    @stevenlagoe7808

    Жыл бұрын

    Oooooo...that's interesting... 👍👍

  • @dumpsky

    @dumpsky

    Жыл бұрын

    time does not flow.

  • @DeanHorak

    @DeanHorak

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dumpsky , Semantics. We perceive time as flowing. It is a philosophical position as to whether all of spacetime exists as a static entity or a sequence of causal events. We can’t say that all of spacetime exists simultaneously because that is circular logic (simultaneity implies a temporal dimension).

  • @dumpsky

    @dumpsky

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DeanHorak using the term 'simultaneity' implies a temporal dimension. the 'block universe' does not. you are saying 'we don't know', 'semantics', but also 'time flows'... ;-)

  • @philrobson4287
    @philrobson4287 Жыл бұрын

    Time doesn’t flow. We and all things are moving through time but at different rates. My time is viewed differently than a Mayfly or a centuries old tortoise.

  • @churchboy316
    @churchboy316 Жыл бұрын

    Ain't nobody got time for that

  • @DocHuard
    @DocHuard Жыл бұрын

    I just don't have time for this...😅

  • @juju5000
    @juju5000 Жыл бұрын

    What is this guy's definition of 'time' ? I didn't hear one.

  • @stellarwind1946

    @stellarwind1946

    Жыл бұрын

    Nobody has one.

  • @TactileTherapy
    @TactileTherapy Жыл бұрын

    I’m playing with this idea in my newest novel

  • @brothermine2292

    @brothermine2292

    Жыл бұрын

    Then you might want to familiarize yourself with Einstein's special relativity (if you're not already). It undermined the Newtonian notion of a universal "now" by showing that "now" covers different slices of spacetime for observers moving at different speeds. This was the origin of the "block universe" notion that Kuhn's guest is describing. Not only do your deceased loved ones "still exist" in your past as the guest noted, they also exist in the present of fast-moving faraway observers.

  • @TactileTherapy

    @TactileTherapy

    Жыл бұрын

    @@brothermine2292 oh believe me I am well versed in black universe theory and einsteins contributions. If anything he’s the reason I even write period

  • @Maxwell-mv9rx
    @Maxwell-mv9rx Жыл бұрын

    Guys keep out fundamental law of phich showing he concepts of time is nill true. As philosopher he inst ideia put it in philosophy procedure. He are pseud phich and philosopher.

  • @patientson
    @patientson Жыл бұрын

    If you cant understand your patience, a philosopher will only worsen your doubts, and then keep you far from your patience. How are you seeking patience in physics or anything man say or do? Is old age and unfair world not teaching you anything about yourself? Your patience hold the whole power of the world eternity times over.

  • @user-sr5sn8bl3n
    @user-sr5sn8bl3n Жыл бұрын

    Jul 14, i933 📷📸📹📺

  • @gettaasteroid4650
    @gettaasteroid4650 Жыл бұрын

    time is only real to the rosebuds?

  • @dwoopie
    @dwoopie Жыл бұрын

    Time is an illusion... there is only...NOW

  • @pjaworek6793

    @pjaworek6793

    Жыл бұрын

    *Your now being different from everyone else's.

  • @proprich5586
    @proprich55869 ай бұрын

    That’s fine I guess unless your loved one suffered for most of its life.

  • @patientson
    @patientson Жыл бұрын

    The peculiar ones know patience to be their only father. This father always come through. Hurting a peculiar one will destroy an entire lineage only to be brought back to existence, into a family you must learn patience from.

  • @mikel4879
    @mikel4879 Жыл бұрын

    Le Poidevin says many decent things here, with which I agree. However, the notion of "time" is completely and artificially created by the human brain ( = "biological" brain ). Human brain "perceives" the realm around itself as "something" ( =the illusion called "time" ) that "passes", because that's the real way the human brain "process" works when it observes the natural dynamic, and not because it is the way the natural processes work in REALITY ( "perceives"= real observation, measurement, theoretical construct, etc, etc, are all under the same real "cognitive" mental material process ). You don't need "time" because there's an asymmetric dynamic. The material realm existent in a volume ( = the so-called "space" ) creates a unique continuous causal "direction" itself. The so-called "space" is fundamentally a free natural asymmetric dynamic itself that's developing infinitesimally, continuously and naturally into one direction. This dynamic aggregated realm called "space" does not need a quantity called "time" to develop itself naturally in the direction of the easiest assymetric degree of freedom in the infinite realm which is the Universe.

  • @OBGynKenobi
    @OBGynKenobi Жыл бұрын

    Time isn't real. It's just change relative to something. It's like a film roll changing from one frame to another relative to a beam of light.

  • @pjaworek6793

    @pjaworek6793

    Жыл бұрын

    Gravity waves. Any concept is 'real' if it describes best what you intended to describe. But is the concept true or accurate? Seems so, to an ever more accurate degree. The concept for me is like measuring and utilizing holes or gaps in something. Holes are just where the something is not, a relationship between somethings. Sure they're not real but we make stuff like semiconductors and computers with them anyway. Time is just as real as space which again is just a description of matter.

  • @hn5460
    @hn5460 Жыл бұрын

    To me, only the past is real, it is a group of events in a particular order. The present does not exist because we cannot get a hold on it, i.e. pinpoint out where it really is on the time frame. The future is not real either because it is not set in stone yet due to the quantum uncertainty effect.

  • @hn5460

    @hn5460

    Жыл бұрын

    Think a bit deeper, it looks like the present, if it exists, cannot be a snapshot of the world at a particular point in time, because that is meaningless to the brain. A single picture has no meaning to the brain. If anything, the present has to be a fuzzy group of snapshots that represent the events happening during a very short period of time around the current point of time, if we can agree which point it is. That also means every snapshot in the past and of the future can just be as current as the ones that are close to the current point in time, with the farther points are less current than the closer points. In short, the past, the present and the future all are current, with different degrees. They are all one, we cannot separate them precisely.

  • @hn5460

    @hn5460

    Жыл бұрын

    Time is just a series of snapshots of the world in a particular order in the human's consciousness. Without consciousness, there is no time.

  • @David.C.Velasquez
    @David.C.Velasquez Жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry Dr. Kuhn, the paradigm of the block multiverse, is not a new radical view of time. It's implications to us as seemingly finite beings, are so counterintuitive to our evolved senses and sensibilities, that they are difficult to conceptualize, let alone explain with current human language. I'm sure you know this well, being at the cutting edge of thought and conversation, with your various guests. The ability to imagine a "view" from a higher dimensional vantage, is a difficult thing to develop, and a more difficult thing to demonstrate or teach. As a child, Flatland could only get me so far, as a young adult, psychoactive pharmacology took me a bit further. Now, at middle age, I'm still confounded yet awestruck, at the astounding mysteries of life, the universe, and everything.

  • @dondattaford5593
    @dondattaford5593 Жыл бұрын

    The only way to codify what we call time is through motion and this doesn't create time

  • @johnsongibbs6567
    @johnsongibbs6567 Жыл бұрын

    Time is motion, measured by the rotation of our planet. We all experience time differently, at different moments, because our thoughts happen at different rates, however our lives are synchronized due to our shared existence on the planet. Molecules experience time differently due to the energy of proximate molecules. This is illustrated by the motion of water in different phases of ice, liquid or steam. Time is dynamic. Quantum Mechanics, which describes motion, is describing time.

  • @user-sn6dz2ie4k
    @user-sn6dz2ie4k Жыл бұрын

    For me time exists only where movement exists. Imagine a space where all stand still, objects, molecules, electrons, strings everything. Is there time in that space ? I thing not

  • @pjaworek6793
    @pjaworek6793 Жыл бұрын

    If you wake up from a coma, to you itd be like travelling into the future and now you know what all of your friends did, what they didnt know before you went into a coma. For them, your next awareness is totally in their future. That does not limit their freedom, that there's a future reality. The freedom is within, assuming those processes are your intentional actions. I could have the will, for example, to not begin moving until a beta-decay is detected making the action completely random, not based on previous events at all, utterly unpredictable. This btw is where i believe we have free will, when we're most receptive and subjective. Then we can act "unimpeded" (is the word that best describes this notion of free will).

  • @dondattaford5593
    @dondattaford5593 Жыл бұрын

    There's no such thing as time we humans use what we call time as a construct a convenient way its like numbers they don't exist example close your eyes where when are you the question should be are our thoughts a form of life

  • @Resmith18SR
    @Resmith18SR11 ай бұрын

    Whitehead said the past is part of the Eternal aspect of God which exists forever and can never be altered.

  • @kimsahl8555
    @kimsahl8555 Жыл бұрын

    Time ia a trinity, trinity is only in the observer system.

  • @Wol747
    @Wol747 Жыл бұрын

    “I believe….” Mixing science and religion doesn’t work.