Road Bikes Weight SCAM! | Does Weight Matter? (The TRUTH) Cycling Industry Doesn't Want You To Know!

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Hey guys, lepedaler coming with a very informative video explaining specifically why the weight of a road bike shouldn't be your main focus when it comes to cycling
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  • @DirkDierickx
    @DirkDierickx3 жыл бұрын

    Hyperbikes with a fat sunday cyclist is like a porsche chassis with a 1.0L 3-cyclinder engine

  • @shanold7681

    @shanold7681

    3 ай бұрын

    And that's why my big butt rides a department store $500 mountain bike, with Urban tires.

  • @Methodical2
    @Methodical23 жыл бұрын

    What amuses me is when manufacturers and advertisers boast about a bike being the fastest. The fastest bike is the one that comes across the finish line first. I would not pay $12-$16k for a bike and I can afford it. That is just insane in my mind for a bike. I know someone who has paid such money for 2-3 of those bikes and ride once or twice a week. I do believe that most people know fitness is key, but some people buy expensive bikes because 1) they can and 2) some like to say they have an expensive bike. But, what's really insane to me is paying $4k+ for bike wheels...now that's insane.

  • @jinngeechia9715
    @jinngeechia97153 жыл бұрын

    It also helps to be smart about the component choices you have on the bike if you can choose them. It doesn't harm to use a compact chainset when you are new. Pair it with a big dinner plate 11-34T cassette at the back. You will be scoffed for being weak but this humility in component choices helps you a lot when you are new and trying to get fit. Going up a hill without getting down to walk up boosts your morale and eggs you to try harder next time.

  • @chroniclesofalazyriderbyde9504
    @chroniclesofalazyriderbyde95043 жыл бұрын

    I personally raced two Giant Propels back to back for the past 4 yrs. Now I'm on a SL7 Specialized Tarmac (not S Works). While I fully believe that investment in structured training which I'm have been doing for the past 4yrs outweighs the benefits of a superbike. Other than weight which is a very grey area in terms of performance, stiffness index of the carbon frame does make a difference in the power output. It's very personal preference to one expect to feel when pushing each stroke. I have also ridden the old TCR which I feel the frame flexed too much under each stroke compared to the stiffness of a propel which I loved. I have also tried the latest TCR which is much stiffer and would gladly recommend anybody who wants to race but is on a budget. The choice of my current ride is more of balance feel of both weight and stiffness than just based on a weight alone. 45 secs claim is bullshit which I know before even I purchase the bike. What matters is the rider him or herself that makes the difference. Lol.

  • @stevemorrical4416

    @stevemorrical4416

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yup!!

  • @sorenjunkers3834

    @sorenjunkers3834

    2 ай бұрын

    yupp sounds like cope to me

  • @michaelroccisano3408
    @michaelroccisano34083 жыл бұрын

    I love guys who spend 799 dollars on the lightest pedals but they are 59 pounds overweight...i love it

  • @wintergreene795
    @wintergreene7953 жыл бұрын

    While most people might think this video is cringy. I feel this is necessary. This is not supposed to be viewed and interpreted by those people who can actually afford to buy 12k and up bikes, but for those aspirants who want to train and become competitive but is lacking budget. Great video and eye opener to ALL cyclists; competitors and enthusiasts alike.

  • @Pedaler

    @Pedaler

    3 жыл бұрын

    Much appreciated and glad you recognized the goal of the video!

  • @wintergreene795

    @wintergreene795

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Pedaler Well, most people want to hear and just wouldn't like to listen. Glad I'm not one of those! Keep doing what you're doing bud!

  • @fagyu7502
    @fagyu7502 Жыл бұрын

    What the cycling industry also doesn't tell you is that they had 6.8 kg bikes 10 years ago as well that cost 1500$ in perfect condition today

  • @rsrnsrwds
    @rsrnsrwds3 жыл бұрын

    This is exactly what I've been thinking. Simply not worth it for me to spend thousands more on a bike just to save a pound or two. Aluminum is just fine for me. But bike makers seem to be reserving options better component sets for only the most expensive carbon frame bikes. Why not allow these options for aluminum frame models?

  • @AndrewFredericia

    @AndrewFredericia

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just buy a aluminum or good steel frame and customize the wheels and components. Especially the wheels and the spoke tension are very important in terms of acceleration.

  • @MrCaza7096
    @MrCaza70963 жыл бұрын

    Well..I just like how the Emonda and Domaine ride. I simply trust them. Just bought a new one. I'm 50 years old and it's what I like

  • @MissyBelleSYD
    @MissyBelleSYD3 жыл бұрын

    People don’t buy expensive bikes for better performance. They buy them because they are a status symbol and are likely middle aged and affluent so can afford to spend thousands on a bike. Why do people drive expensive cars when there are speed limits?

  • @misaelrealenriquez7119
    @misaelrealenriquez71193 жыл бұрын

    Great video! I just wanted to make a point being the devil's advocate. General bike performance is measured in W/Kg, where W is the total watts your engine can put down (aka legs) and Kg is the combined weight of the system (rider + bike + water bottle + etc...). With this it is easy to see that the heavier the rider (more Kg), will be less affected by a heavier bike than a lighter rider. This is also the case with a stronger rider (more W) that will be less affected by a heavier bike than a weaker rider. Pros are generally light AND strong, making small fluctuations in weight of the system less meaningful than the weekend worrier who is kinda light. A big and heavy rider (most of the time they are strong even though they are not fit) will not benefit almost at all from a light bike. So the take-home message is: if you are a really light rider (around 100 lb or less), a light bike will actually make a difference. All of this is for climbs, where gravity effects you (E=mgh), but on flat ground (no elevation), bike weight difference makes absolutely no sense. If you are a heavy rider, a light bike will make almost no difference. Here I have omitted that pros, being so equal through ought the peloton, need all the advantages possible to beat others. Another thing I have not considered is that a light bike will be easier to maneuver, specially to lighter riders (I know that this is more important in MTB (XC) than in Road). Only the buyer can say if this is worth it or not, but generally, a 2K or3K bike is MORE than ENOUGH.

  • @Pedaler

    @Pedaler

    3 жыл бұрын

    👏

  • @casperradil

    @casperradil

    3 жыл бұрын

    More than enough is probably defined by what you do! If you are on the edge of following a group ride, any help, no matter how small, is greatly appreciated. If you roll around alone, a 1k bike is more than enough - I know because I rode la marmotte on a sub 1k bike, and the bike was never a problem!

  • @sunilthakre9601

    @sunilthakre9601

    2 жыл бұрын

    1st to fall weight of person doesn't matter in velocity of cycle at all!!! Proof= potential energy= kinetic energy Mgh= ½mv² Divide by m Gh= ½v² V²= 2gh V=√2gh It means it's independent of mass!!

  • @Kingjay814
    @Kingjay8143 жыл бұрын

    Instructions unclear, I bought a bike that's both expensive and heavy for a road bike. But I wouldn't trade my Orbea Gain for anything.

  • @Marco-717

    @Marco-717

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not even for some Krispy kream? 🤣🐖

  • @xake
    @xake3 жыл бұрын

    I agree, but If you are racing, then a 1-2min difference is everything.

  • @qibble455
    @qibble4553 жыл бұрын

    I love riding but I'm ten pounds overweight. I've Never cared about my bikes weight..Well that's a lie but deep down I know (in my case) it does not matter. Another thing people need to learn about is Rotating Mass. The weight of your wheels doesn't matter. Unless you're racing up a steep hill, Your wheels are just flywheels that store energy as they spin up. 10/10 this video gets imo.

  • @zidazizaz9836
    @zidazizaz98363 жыл бұрын

    Well said...a lot of people could really improve if they just lost weight as this will improve VO2 max even without increasing training.

  • @Alejandro_BoniIIa
    @Alejandro_BoniIIa3 жыл бұрын

    Instructions unclear, bought an ebike and gained 50lbs

  • @danielgoransson974
    @danielgoransson9743 жыл бұрын

    Love the content. Can you make a video on bike sizes, in particular debating if you're "between" two size.. which size to go for, and also, how to move away from "old school bike thinking" like slamming the stem as far down as you can, when some people argue that you are more area being "longer" in the arm-handlbar triangle VS having the stem really low but then creating air resistance in the arm-handlbar triangle...

  • @cedpatin
    @cedpatin3 жыл бұрын

    If I was to get drop with my 10k bike, I would get drop even more on my 2k bike. At least my bike is nice to look at...

  • @cedpatin

    @cedpatin

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Reanimator999 ain't that the same with a cheap bike ?

  • @andrewsmith3530

    @andrewsmith3530

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ha Ha, you would probably get dropped equally, unless you are a professional cyclist on a major clime! As an old road racer, its all about your personal fitness and the size of your gut! :-)

  • @cedpatin

    @cedpatin

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@andrewsmith3530 Yeah that's for sure ! At least I don't get drop that often 🤣

  • @lmaofao9071
    @lmaofao90713 жыл бұрын

    It’s not scam, just overhyped

  • @Flint_Westwood
    @Flint_Westwood Жыл бұрын

    What a great video. I have been cycling most of my life but really got into road cycling back in 2012. I bought a entry level bike, paid about £1000 at the time. The reason I didn't go more expensive was, as you said in the video, I didn't know if I'd even stick with it or not. In any case, I did, and I also kept the bike, which I did some incremental "upgrades" - wheels, bars and so on. I've been able to humble quite a few riders on way more expensive bikes over the years on club rides. I recently acquired a new road bike to compliment the one I've already got and it's 1kg heavier, mainly due to the wheels, the finishing kit and disc brakes (my othe rbike is a rim brake setup). GCN did a good video that looked specifically at the effect of adding 1kg to a bike and it's effect on performance. I think it equated to an additional 5 watts. GCN clip: kzread.info/dash/bejne/o2p_uduuqJPWc8o.html&feature=shares

  • @anielyantra1
    @anielyantra13 жыл бұрын

    Very good demonstration of how it's about the rider (engine) and not the weight of the bike. The topic of brakes is a good one. I think the sweet spot is V-brakes. The other topic is the weight/ durability disparity. If the weight of the bike is not the top priority, then what is? I say durability Why? Because that is the most sound advice economically. I would rather have a bike that is lbs heavier and lasts decades longer. I still say (except for racing) a steel bike is the way to go.

  • @thechilaxrider
    @thechilaxrider3 жыл бұрын

    Great vid bruh! Stay passionate, stay sincere, stay honest. All the best ya..

  • @djokotriono7787
    @djokotriono77873 жыл бұрын

    2:50 roadbikers usually lean and strong type so being light is boosting their performance even further. But for heavy riders like me during long 100km ish ride in bad weather heavy rains and slippery wet roads, having disk brake would be peace of mind on decent. I have rim brakes on my rb but wish it's disk knowing the experience from mtb.

  • @Cloud007.
    @Cloud007. Жыл бұрын

    This is brilliant advice! I now feel better about my giant contend sl1 at 8.5kg for a large 58cm frame.

  • @alangilmour4269
    @alangilmour42693 жыл бұрын

    Never bother that much with weight as a middle aged rider, why because out with my mates I’m always last in the coffee shop by which time my friends have normal ordered my coffee and cake great money saving tip, but most importantly to save weight lose the weight off you first

  • @willfreeman7909
    @willfreeman79093 жыл бұрын

    1996 Vitus 992 I ride mostly. Love it.

  • @eltigre6446
    @eltigre64463 жыл бұрын

    That's every industry tho. Golf for example, lasted model driver goes "longer" but they don't say how much longer, because the data shows it's about .5 yards longer on average lol

  • @d-rosejames4553
    @d-rosejames45533 жыл бұрын

    Basically you’re paying an “Ugly” looking bike or “Cool” looking bike i guess. If you can afford it it’s great. If you can’t then it’s also great. Simple.

  • @markwalker2986
    @markwalker29863 жыл бұрын

    I totally agree with you! Its easy to fall for hype of getting the top of the range ultra light bike but the truth is the heavier the bike the fitter ul get! I've got a light carbon bike but in the winter I ride my heavier alloy bike to improve my fitness.

  • @tomwalker5834
    @tomwalker58343 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Cyclist should know that these super expensive bikes, alot of the money you pay is for the research the companies do to produce these top end components. Hence why a modern 105 groupset is just as good if not better then a Dura-ace from 10 years ago. You will not see your return in product when you by top end bike.

  • @julmeissonnier
    @julmeissonnier3 жыл бұрын

    This why I like to ride my 1981 Follis touring bike so much, it is a steel "light" touring (Vitus 971) bike with cantilever brakes but with a good set of relatively modern wheels (Fulcrum 3) and half modern gears (Campagnolo 10 speed in the rear). The bike weighs about 10.5Kg fully equipped, it is a pleasure to ride and yes it is about 10 minutes slower on my usual 1h30-2 hours' ride than a modern bike. I have an about 500m elevation climb going back home, long enough for no one to be able to fake a pace you cannot really maintain, so for me as a 57 years old it is totally win-win... If fit riders on fancy carbon bikes pass me, its normal (and most fit riders on good bikes pass me these days), but when I pass people on the climb it is definitely brutal, countless people will look at the bike as I pass them and they go nuts and their ego kicks-in, I hear gear change as they feel they have to accelerate to pass me again and usually they blow-up in the next kilometer... It is so amusing... Even though I have not done a lot of touring lately, I think my sadistic side makes me leave the front low pannier carriers (about 300 grams extra) on the bike just to complete the picture... As you said, in the 80's I weighed 61Kg for 1.76m and probably had double the watts than I have today, today I am still not fat at 68Kg but the W/Kg difference is huge, I'd need a 2Kg bike to be at the same weight going up (and still would have half the watts)...

  • @l3ds92
    @l3ds923 жыл бұрын

    If everyone was a World Tour level W/KG then yeah superbikes matter, otherwise it's better to spend money on training, nutrition, and rest to become faster. Probably getting a set of wheels it's the only upgrade that you can to but that's it.

  • @ryanwahome5086
    @ryanwahome50863 жыл бұрын

    Hello fellow rider... I totally agree with your point... It's absolutely logic and u have enlightened me... Am 85kgs, am a rider and I would really love to attain that fitness wight limit to be an endurance rider... Pliz create some videos on workouts and diets to acquire the lean fitness

  • @raybaker9636
    @raybaker96363 жыл бұрын

    Good video.I was looking to upgrade my 10 year old entry level trek race bike that weighs about 18 pounds. Just wanting the new technology that my bike was lacking. I was trying to make a decision between a budget race bike like your TCR Advanced or an endurance bike like the Giant Defy that weights around 20 pounds! I have 2 mountain bikes as well so was looking at bikes around $2,000 to $3,000. As a 56 year old rider I should be looking at the endurance bikes but was agonizing over the weight difference. I ride 50 to about 130 miles a week mostly by myself. Most of that is on an electronic mountain bike. I have managed to drop 20 pounds and 15 more need to go get to that sweat spot for cycling. I would love to do more group rides and speed more time on a road bike! I don’t want to burden others with how slow I am especially climbing! The electric bike has really helped in this area while mountain biking! I am really just trying not to suck that much to ride with other people. This is a result of some health problems. I have to really monitor my heart rate and make sure I pace myself and not over do it. If my heart rate gets too high I have to actually stop until it drops or I pass out! It appears I should not be that worried about 3 or 4 more pounds on an endurance bike! Especially if it’s geared with a compact crank 50/34 and have a 11-34 cassette which would most likely make up for the weight difference! Hopefully this year will be the year I feel strong enough to maintain 14 to 16 MPH for group rides of 20 to 30 miles or more. Ready to join a group and socialize while enjoying cycling without holding them up!

  • @raybaker9636

    @raybaker9636

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Reanimator999 good for you!

  • @imperialspy3457
    @imperialspy34573 жыл бұрын

    psa everyone: you don't have to begrudge those that own expensive bikes, kit etc. Everyone has a different financial situation, riding goals.

  • @malakiespsasdernun
    @malakiespsasdernun3 жыл бұрын

    Hey thanks for your vids. I wanted to ask your opinion on the different kinds of indoor trainers, whether a budget wheel on trainer is better value than a second hand smart trainer.

  • @MisterSal9895
    @MisterSal98953 жыл бұрын

    Great video. It just came to me that weight is more important in single speed because one is stuck in one gear. So the lighter the bike the easier the climbing will be. Even fit person with a 15lbs single speed will get a good workout especially if lives in hilly area.

  • @willowwatts
    @willowwatts3 жыл бұрын

    Hi buddy..this is an amazing video..Im currently riding a 9.5kg alumninum road bike..Scott speedster 20 with tiagra groupset and cheap wheels. I love riding it but I was looking to upgrade to the the TCR advanced pro 1... Would you recommend upgrading to the TCR or would I rather be better of upgrading my current bike with a set of carbon wheels,lighter components etc.. please suggest .. Thank you.👍🏻

  • @Pedaler

    @Pedaler

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don’t rate Giant Bikes as I had the WORST warranty experience, so if you can find a bike brand with a good deal 105/tiagra and aluminum frame or carbon. Should be good. I personally like a 105 groupo with a carbon frame but up to you and what your budget is. All the best!

  • @willowwatts

    @willowwatts

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Pedaler thank you for getting back to me..I'm looking for something under 2500£..I can use my NHS cycle to work voucher to get the bike..Giant is pretty popular here in the UK and after sales service has been good from what I've heard from friends..I will still keep my options open though..In the mean time is it worth upgrading my current bike till I get a new one ?..

  • @jlatnyc

    @jlatnyc

    3 жыл бұрын

    Look at the Orro Venturi, good reviews and good looking bike. UK based company

  • @peterw9006
    @peterw90063 жыл бұрын

    Can you do a video on aero improvements? I have a big clumsy frame, and debating whether it’s useful to upgrade. Like, the main tube is extraordinarily big. Is it worth it to upgrade, or simply wait for this bike to be honorably discharged? It’s done 18k till now

  • @c3dwin5412
    @c3dwin54122 жыл бұрын

    This is all true. I agree with 100% and if you like a bike that happens to cost 5k… then do what you like but just know you will be blown out of the water with a dude on a retro bike or rain day bike when it comes down to fitness.

  • @xelseartheonlyone1267
    @xelseartheonlyone12673 жыл бұрын

    I personally believe if a bike is not more than 10kg is perfectly fine. My AR3 feels like a feather even on uphills which i ride a lot. The only problem is my weight 113kg. If i get fitter my bike will really shine. Nice video. Can you do a mechanical vs hydraulic disc brakes one? I use mechanicals and they are very good even for a heavy rider like me. I wonder if the expensive cost of the hydraulic is really worth it.

  • @d-vngwenya4043
    @d-vngwenya40432 ай бұрын

    Uyashisa, you're hot for this. It's all coming back to me , when I started cycling I was passed by a 50 year old man on a sturdy clunky Raleigh (lowest budget) . I went back to lifting weights

  • @Vam1500
    @Vam15003 жыл бұрын

    Agree and disagree with you. I lost about 10% of my body weight and I am definitely faster on climbs, but the improvement isn’t as dramatic as you might think. I was pretty fit before, so the lighter me still has to work pretty hard to beat my old times. On the other hand, I have ridden a lot of bikes and a light bike that is well built is a joy to ride. You feel like you can ride farther with less effort. It is hard to explain that difference in terms of physics. It is probably because lighter bikes are the manufacturers best bikes: not only lighter but more aero, stiffer in power transfer but more compliant so the ride is better, better components, etc. You are getting a lot more for 12k than just a little lighter bike.

  • @RudyGold
    @RudyGold3 жыл бұрын

    Dam bro your killing the KZread game 👍keep it up ⬆️

  • @Pedaler

    @Pedaler

    3 жыл бұрын

    Greatly appreciate it!

  • @Dee-Ell
    @Dee-Ell3 жыл бұрын

    Great video. The animation is a nice touch. Are you still working for a bike shop? Your boss may not approve of this message. lol

  • @jlatnyc
    @jlatnyc3 жыл бұрын

    @10:11 😂😂. A 22yr old, when I was younger

  • @Pedaler

    @Pedaler

    3 жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @isaacrobot
    @isaacrobot3 жыл бұрын

    you also need to put into account how stiff the bike is, less power lost amounts to better speed / power transfer. if assuming both the $2k bike and the $12k bike are exactly the same stiffness then "truth" on this video is correct. there are also other qualities of the bike like ride quality, comfort, cornering.

  • @andygarcia1175
    @andygarcia11753 жыл бұрын

    You just got a new subscriber. Thanks for keeping it real.

  • @palicar
    @palicar3 жыл бұрын

    Taking a break from building my new road bike. Mega-stoked. Emonda ALR Disc Ultegra mechanical Paul Klampers (they're so nice) White Industries cranks. I love it already. I'm riding it up Mt Evans this Summer.

  • @LZWEHDKE

    @LZWEHDKE

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Emonda ALR frame is magnifico.

  • @mikebrown600

    @mikebrown600

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same. I put some Aeolus Pro 37s on my ALR 4 and I’m just about to install a 105 groupset on it. An amazing frame for the price.

  • @karpmaster
    @karpmaster3 жыл бұрын

    You forgot to add the drafting parameter. If you ride inside a pelaton the wind blocking can reduce more time. I for myself upgraded my bike to trek madone SL bike for three parameters- 1. More aero bike( I think that wind is more important for those who are strong on the straight s. 2. Disk brakes- they just stop better. After almost crashing when my rim brake just got over heated I don't trust these rim brakes anymore. 3. Electronic shifting ( because I love gadgets and they can be connected to garmin and I can control it from the shifters) But for the reasons you mentioned I did not even think of buying SLR model. It's less than 1kg difference and almost 3k difference

  • @elmerrichardson6413
    @elmerrichardson64133 жыл бұрын

    Keep making these videos...please! People need to be informed.

  • @danielcovert1023
    @danielcovert1023 Жыл бұрын

    The best video I’ve seen on expensives vs cheaper bike. You simply can’t buy a faster time up a climb by spending 12k on a bike. Spending time getting fit on a 2k bike and losing body weight is a much cheaper option plus your body will thank you later

  • @sepg5084
    @sepg50843 жыл бұрын

    If you're a competitive cyclist, 1 second or less is the difference of a win or a loss. If you're a casual cyclist, being on a 10kg vs. a 8kg bike does not matter.

  • @NomadFilmmaker305
    @NomadFilmmaker3053 жыл бұрын

    Respect! Keep going!

  • @Pedaler

    @Pedaler

    3 жыл бұрын

    Appreciate the support!

  • @emililiev4074
    @emililiev40743 жыл бұрын

    Great content!

  • @rangersmith4652
    @rangersmith46522 жыл бұрын

    When I started seriously riding just 70 days ago, my bike weighed 20.1 pounds, but I weighed 172.2 pounds. My bike still weighs 20.1 pounds, but now I weigh 161.2 pounds. That's a net 11 pounds shaved off, not to even mention the strength and endurance gains I enjoy. Imagine trying to shave even half that much weight off the bike instead of off me.

  • @sommervillephotography462
    @sommervillephotography4623 жыл бұрын

    okay younger durian,i have a cheapish tcr 1300 uk pounds.But understand people work hard for there money and like to buy nice things! you do not live forever,people spend a lot of time on the bike and whats wrong with buying something you really like?

  • @njdad7766
    @njdad77663 жыл бұрын

    Buy used, I bought a gently used Sworks Tarmac SL5 rim brake on Bicycle Blue Book for $2800 with full Campy SR and weighs only 14lbs 8oz. Only $300 more than I spent on a new Giant Defy in 2017. There will be deals to find out there.

  • @matkrek

    @matkrek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dont think it was a SL7, doesnt come in rim brake

  • @njdad7766

    @njdad7766

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@matkrek I edited it lol. Thanks

  • @njdad7766

    @njdad7766

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Reanimator999 he hurt his back in 2015 a few weeks after he bought it. I didn’t believe his story but I purchased the bike anyway. When I opened the box... I had no choice but to trust his story. Brand new old stock, if it was a baseball card it would be one grade under mint condition.

  • @rolffuchs2737
    @rolffuchs27375 ай бұрын

    David Millar (former world tour pro and time trial word champ) said: The handling of a bike is the most important thing.

  • @pr33tu_
    @pr33tu_3 жыл бұрын

    I have a super old trek fx 7.3 with a heavy af steel fork and got into strava last year, i enjoy the pain people get when i beat them on segments with my tagged bike :P. I've improved so much by training and eating right that even this 25 lb+ bike isn't slowing me down. This bike is maybe worth 300 dollars, and I beat people with more than 10x cost bikes, trust me it's a satisfying feel in its own.

  • @Pedaler

    @Pedaler

    3 жыл бұрын

    Fitness gains for the win!

  • @swanauto47
    @swanauto473 жыл бұрын

    When I compared my 2019 Émonda SL to my co worker’s 2019 S Works Tarmac the differences were so minimal but comparing my low end alloy Madone from 2015 to my Émonda was substantial

  • @nengnengnengable
    @nengnengnengable3 жыл бұрын

    Lol those fat guys can keep up with you on a group ride for 2 more mins. That's probably worth $10k to them

  • @junflute
    @junflute2 жыл бұрын

    I ride a chinese single speed, rim brakes, pursuit bars, all steel. 11kg. Its a tank. 100 bucks (i had to assemble it). Ive been riding it daily for 5 years. No failures. Its fun. Im fit.

  • @tristansagucio4836
    @tristansagucio48363 жыл бұрын

    I totally agree with you bro that fitness outweighs the benefit of a more expensive bikes.

  • @jules43434
    @jules434343 жыл бұрын

    Could you make a video about the food you ate when you went from 96kg to 69kg, and the recovery also? I have now a fat percentage of 12.7% (66kg, 1m73, 17 years old)and would like to go to 10%.

  • @chefaero
    @chefaero2 жыл бұрын

    Underrated video! I agree! I own the cannondale caad optimo 2018, put tiagra 10speed and some carbon cockpit, aluminum 40mm Wheel set on it and it weighs around 8.2 to 8.5 KG. I joined a mini race here with 200 particpants and i finished 2nd. This is not a joke! Most of the particpants has their bike weighs for about 6.5 to 7.5 KG. Im saying this because i want people to know its not always about the bike, yes lighter is better. But what matters is ur proper conditioning and training.. i can buy an expensive bike but i dont need to and why? I fkcin beat the sht out of them ridin my optimo. Lmfao. Great video bro! Subscribed!

  • @PolyglotBikepacker
    @PolyglotBikepacker3 жыл бұрын

    Inspirational video. Love how you get totally worked up over it. I used a roubaix sl4 to go from 100 kg to 79 and my race mates who said it wasn't a climbing bike unlike their tarmacs were no match uphill. I smoked them in the hairpins and I smiled and yelled as I changed their view on bikes forever

  • @erlkoenig90
    @erlkoenig903 жыл бұрын

    How do these numbers translate to an allroad/adventure bike? These can be quite expensive as well, but the money is spent on other aspects than weight; mostly durability and comfort/ride feel. Saving time on climbs is totally irrelevant here. If you e.g. want a titanium bike because of the offered comfort+durability, you can easily spend $2000 for the frame alone. Is that still unreasonable, especially since it won't be that light either (perhaps 9-10kg), but might last decades? Steel is obviously much cheaper, but there's the rust issue.

  • @TPS2525
    @TPS25253 жыл бұрын

    That's why they call it a professional bike, for professional racer where marginal advantage counts. For us normal riders, that advantage may not worth the cost. But it sure look nice.

  • @samchaplin9688
    @samchaplin96883 жыл бұрын

    Can you look at the vitus vitesse evo cr 105 race bike? Would be soo good to get your opinion on it.

  • @ocrodriguez78
    @ocrodriguez783 жыл бұрын

    The point is that these super expensive lighter bikes are for the pros where seconds matter. For the rest of the world, it’s not worth the cost. Want a lighter bike? Lose some body fat! Great video !

  • @Pedaler

    @Pedaler

    3 жыл бұрын

    Appreciate you see the video for what it is!

  • @odedcp
    @odedcp3 жыл бұрын

    Well said!!!👍🏼

  • @janplexy
    @janplexy3 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate light bikes because I live on the fifth floor without the elevator. ❤️

  • @astrayagrarian

    @astrayagrarian

    3 жыл бұрын

    Time to get swole on your upper body

  • @NP-kc5qd

    @NP-kc5qd

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol!

  • @ronalddejong3651
    @ronalddejong36513 жыл бұрын

    I bought a Giant advanced 2 rim brakes! I chanced the weels,saddle and handlebar ( al bought by Ali Expressie for 390€ everting Carbon ) sold the wheels for 150€ so i paid 1640€ for a bike off 7',4 kilogram! Super video!!!....ohhh including pedals 🤣🤣🤣👍👍

  • @chriskabare3693
    @chriskabare36933 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video. Gonna save my cash and get fit AF!.

  • @Pedaler

    @Pedaler

    3 жыл бұрын

    Let’s go!!!!!!

  • @RagingRudy
    @RagingRudy3 жыл бұрын

    It's the truth. I ride a 2014 specialized Secteur sport that weighs a hefty 10.1 kgs, cost me $500 used all aluminum with sora groupset and I weight like 93kg and 45 years old. I average 16.7 mph over 24 miles. The only times I suffer is climbing. In my opinion it all boils down to fitness and just recently started cycling. The only reason the cost so much is cause idiots will pay those high prices.

  • @harryhuang7
    @harryhuang73 жыл бұрын

    It’s people over compensating for the lack of fitness, talent or skill 😂. All jokes aside people be like that, agree 100% with what you say but it’s their money at the end of the day.

  • @fredpomi851
    @fredpomi8512 жыл бұрын

    I have the money to buy whatever bike I want, but I refuse to be fed so much marketing crap that make no empirical sense what so ever for a mundane cyclist like myself. For the last 10 years I have made the efforts to build my own road/gravel/commuter do-it-all bike with the best quality/price ratio drivetrain components (e.g Shimano Tiagra cranks, 105 shifters, GRX400 brakes) all the rest being sourced from Aliexpress. One ICAN X-Gravel frame, 2 pairs of wheels/tyres. Cost me less than USD2,500. Weights 9.5kgs, goes everywhere does (almost) everything and as I am keeping my body weight in check, I often smoke overweight guys on their AUD12,000 super bikes (grin).

  • @MashiroRedo
    @MashiroRedo3 жыл бұрын

    It’s like cars, people have different preference doesn’t mean they’re better.

  • @robertchubb1518
    @robertchubb15183 жыл бұрын

    Good man..well said...basically ENJOY...

  • @bface1og
    @bface1og2 жыл бұрын

    Good video and very informative. In my opinion, buy what you like and what will make you ride more as long as you can afford it. If the now $14k sl7 makes you ride more and you can afford it, go for it why not. If you are just looking at it from the performance standpoint then get a tcr, cannondale CAAD or whatever. I have a friend with a old Scott 10 speed that will smoke me in my sl7 comp. Do I care? Nope I love my sl7 and continue to ride until I can beat him.

  • @solitaryrefinement6787
    @solitaryrefinement67873 жыл бұрын

    Fact: Rider X will perform better on a lighter bike under the exact same conditions. A 300hp car pushing more weight will be slower than that same 300hp pushing a lighter car. It's not opinion or placebo. It's physics. By the way, 1 minute saved at a finish line is a world of difference, or as Dom puts it in Fast & Furious; 'It don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile; winning's winning.'

  • @ajlexinicole7
    @ajlexinicole73 жыл бұрын

    To be fair, you were only talking about a bike on one climb. Not about how much stiffer the more other one is, which helps in delivering power to the ground, which makes you go faster. I have expensive and not so expensive bikes and there is a difference. I think that you would agree with that. Also, your video should be name, Expensive Bikes for new riders, why? Your content is good and the passion is there, for sure. I just think your hit to make other points inside of the mane point of some of your videos. In this video, your mane conclusion was get more fit and lose weight, or something to that affect. Oh yeah, and save some money. By the way, your disclaimers are great too....LOL Keep up the great work!

  • @claybowler751
    @claybowler7513 жыл бұрын

    I am an old Campy guy. Still love it but refuse to pay the price for it. I am starting to really shift on thought all together now as I have ridden Ultegra now for years. I am starting to think that is spending too much money based on performance reviews of 105. Wish I had the thousands back I spent buying into the hype.

  • @lee1210mk2
    @lee1210mk211 ай бұрын

    Well said my bro 💪🏼💪🏼

  • @claybowler751
    @claybowler7513 жыл бұрын

    The more I watched this video the more I recall even back in the late 90s before this carbon revolution too shape, I was on a Bianchi Mega Pro XL with full Campy Record/Campy wheels. My buddy Todd was on a Bridgestone with rusted out seat stays and downtube shifters. When he wanted to, he'd drop us any time he wanted. It's truly the engine. We were riding with some Italians on their Italian bikes with full top of the line Campy, and Todd would just lay it down leaving us behind. They'd exclaim in their heavy Italian accent, "Todd good rider." Don't get me wrong, I still love seeing the picture of my Colnago back in the day with it's custom paint but those TCRs like you blow that stuff away in terms of bang for the buck. That's why I ride nothing but Giant these days.

  • @marcalvarez4890
    @marcalvarez48903 жыл бұрын

    Mountain bikes are different. You may want to point this out. When youre starting and stopping and turning and going up and down rocks and bumps 1000 times a minute...weight matters. Road bikes, doesn't matter, but off road...matters. Road bikes=Aero matters Mtb bikes= Weight matters Just something to consider commenting on. Good video by the way!

  • @gur262

    @gur262

    Жыл бұрын

    Carbon fatigues. Aluminium fatigues. Steel doesn't. When you go down rocks on a bike you spend 1000,2000,3000 on, whether it lasts matters. Sure it may be your bad technique or your crash that cost you the bike but still it's gone.

  • @sherab2078
    @sherab20785 ай бұрын

    I agree. However, I would start with lower power (150-200W) in the bike calculator and with increased fitness I would not only reduce the weight of the cyclist but also increase the power (up to 300W). It seems that on a 7% climb, a 5W of power is (timewise) worth more than 1kg of mass.

  • @creative907
    @creative9073 жыл бұрын

    Love the content, liked it better when you spoke in $CAD but I guess most of your viewers are outside of Canada?

  • @lestercampos46

    @lestercampos46

    3 жыл бұрын

    You are lazy ...Google it will give you the exact numbers....just enjoy the video and that time

  • @creative907

    @creative907

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lestercampos46 It's not that I'm lazy, it's for user experience - It'll be nice if $CAD is also mentioned along with $USD pricing.

  • @lestercampos46

    @lestercampos46

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@creative907 James....happy day

  • @ivandjordevic696
    @ivandjordevic6963 жыл бұрын

    Great vid, take mu sub man :)

  • @darrenjunealibangbang2077
    @darrenjunealibangbang20773 жыл бұрын

    Me only bike like 2 times a week im really questioning my self why i bought 3 super bikes But hey i dont call it a bad decision for me its an envestment

  • @MHH3180
    @MHH31803 жыл бұрын

    Clipless for beginners is my pet peeve. Not that they aren't more efficient, but 90% of my clipless customers don't even understand ankling, so they literally would be faster riding flats! All this and we're not even considering that most are not set up properly, are uncomfortable and are spending hundreds extra to ride clipless.

  • @salganik

    @salganik

    Жыл бұрын

    most of the studies actually suggest that clipless pedals do not provide any improvement in riding efficiency (DOI: 10.1055/s-2008-1038374). Yet, some studies also suggest that they could be better for knees.

  • @lenartkoncan9933
    @lenartkoncan99333 жыл бұрын

    U are right. Hands down. You just need to ride ride and ride. No fancy bikes.💪⚡

  • @paulj8803
    @paulj8803 Жыл бұрын

    Even on just a weekend group ride things can get competitive, having a lighter more aerodynamic bike with less rolling resistance can be the difference between 33kms PH or 35kms PH (or keeping up with or not keeping up with the group). Its all about perspective. If people want to and are happy to spend the loot, its all good. Others don't, all good too. What is the scam?

  • @gur262

    @gur262

    Жыл бұрын

    A win is even sweeter when done with lesser kit.

  • @GrayFox-xd9ww
    @GrayFox-xd9ww3 жыл бұрын

    See bro I like how you think. This guy I rode w he have $4k specialized road bike I had trek checkpoint AL3 in the summer we rode up this hill he was slow af I burned him had frame bag and handlebar bag had my cooking stuff in bags bike weigh almost 30 lbs lmao you remind me of durian rider videos he talks about fitness a lot and that’s what really matters.

  • @GrayFox-xd9ww

    @GrayFox-xd9ww

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Reanimator999 😂👍🏽

  • @GrayFox-xd9ww
    @GrayFox-xd9ww3 жыл бұрын

    SL7 heaviest tarmac Older tarmac is lighter. Disc brakes means light parts on bike and heavier fork

  • @malaysiadentist4637
    @malaysiadentist46373 жыл бұрын

    That's a difference of a KOM on Strava than a non Kom.... Worth it mate!😅

  • @millermiller75
    @millermiller753 жыл бұрын

    I feel the same way about girlfriends.

  • @christianarvelo3330

    @christianarvelo3330

    3 жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @braedenmurray3598
    @braedenmurray35983 жыл бұрын

    When I passed a group of roadies after coming back from a two hour Mountain bike ride on a full suspension mountain bike. I was probably doing 20 mph on the flats and 15 up hill. You can hold a good pace on any bike.

  • @danfuerthgillis4483
    @danfuerthgillis44834 ай бұрын

    😂 Basically what he is saying here “Cycling is the new Golf”.

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