Which truck are you choosing and where are you taking it? GO! Spell it all out in the comments below.

@youtubecarspottersguide1

Жыл бұрын

gladiator for price , rivian 4x4 e motors on each wheel . but both to big for trails, wheel bases are way to long , pick up boxes are to small for me to use

@0HOON0

Жыл бұрын

I have to turn down the Rivian until the vampire drain issue is resolved. Check out Alex on Autos and this morning's TFL for more info.

@terminatorcoyote6319

Жыл бұрын

Rivian

@ardenthebibliophile

Жыл бұрын

Already got an R1T, so I'll stay with that!

@TheBowerbird

Жыл бұрын

@@0HOON0 That was fixed for a lot of people with the update which just came out. It was relating to a hood latch not securing bug.

I like how in one shot it shows the Gladiator up on the 3rd step and in the next frame it's on the 2nd. Nice try!!!!

@tanktheram

10 ай бұрын

They were sandbagging the Gladiator, not only offroad but in features too. Can it do this, brings out her Bluetooth speaker... Gladiator offers that too...

Have owned Wranglers for last 30 years, and still own a Gladiator for towing behind our RV, but since last month also own a Rivian R1T (Quad motors) and am loving it, what a revolution!

@fastfed

7 ай бұрын

How's that towing with the rivian?? Lol oh that's right, can't be done. Cannot tow a rivian

@johnfitzgerald1879

2 ай бұрын

@@fastfedAt an 11,000lb towing capacity along with a 1,760lb payload-it could almost tow your fat ass out of a buffet.

@migueljardim8177

Ай бұрын

​@@johnfitzgerald1879Haha🤣👌

I have a Compas Yellow Rivian and I cannot tell you how happy I am. That instant torque is just insane. Nothing keeps up with me from stoplight to stoplight. I haven't taken it off road because Florida is mostly flat. I have a 10kW solar system and a 20kW battery back up in my house. Being in the sunshine state, I charge at home for free! The truck costs me nothing to operate, which Jeep can say that?

@HKFIJIHK

Жыл бұрын

As a Florida man. You can still go off road in FL. Take it to the mud!

@CrustyCrip

7 ай бұрын

How does cost of insurance compare for these two vehicles?

@voxtek

Ай бұрын

@@CrustyCrip 140 a month for my rivian

I dont know how the Rivian scored three steps zigarot steps...and the Gladiator was only given two? Gladiator got to the same 3 steps, with the same wheel float....and way less front wheel well issue

It's always good to see Emme! thanks for the entertainment !

What happened between 0:50 and 1:00?

@CallsignVega

Жыл бұрын

lol they moved the Jeep down one step.

Great video gang! Keep it up.

Nice video, thanks. So great to see Emme Hall in the mix for Edmunds. She truly is the, “Trail Boss” (sorry, Chevy)!

What mode was used in the last hill climb? What ride height did you use in each test? You can manually use HIGHEST ride height, which makes a huge difference! Also, did you use stability control or did you bypass it? Another huge difference in each test! Good job overall.

Looks like everyone had a great time. 😊 At the end of the day, that’s all that matters!

@caraveli2573

Жыл бұрын

Very true

I love rivian design. Its looks sturdy

@Propelled

8 ай бұрын

It isn’t. The tierods are from a golf cart.

This girl was really natural. Regarding the trucks, well, Rivian îs clearly more capable. And with some taller offroad tyres is a savage climber. But Jeep îs like familly, with flows, but close to your heart. You feel more at home în îts familiar friendly engine noise. And, lets be honest, who the hell needs to brake his truck is some sharpy rocks ? Great video, I was impressed by "can you do this ?" scene. You both make a funny team.

What happened to 0:26 he clearly made it to the third step, if you’re going to lie about something so obvious, really makes me wonder if this channel actually cares about testing cars or just saying what they want to.

I'll take the Rivian in a heartbeat!

The Jeep actually does have a sweet Bluetooth speaker behind the rear pass seat.

@timotaio69

Жыл бұрын

Yes, correct. The speaker is an option.

Would be really interesting to see how the Mojave did without the locker compared to the Rivian- with both of them using BLD / torque vectoring type stuff.

To all those NAYSAYERS of RVIIAN R1T Quad Motor, NO JEEP straight from the dealership WITHOUT souping it up can beat the RIVIAN, period. How do I know? I tested ALL JEEP top of the line trucks and SUV, and still bought the RIVIAN R1T.

The Rubicon would have been a better comparison. The R1T has an advantage over the Mojave in being able to simulate a front locker. I've had both, the Rubicon is quite a bit more capable as of today. The R1T still has some traction issues that will be resolved over time with software.

@jimdieselsgarage

Жыл бұрын

Edit: The rivian is better in every other way though... Minus the top coming off and that whole 200 miles per charge in the cold thing.

@MissleT0E

Жыл бұрын

@@jimdieselsgaragewell that’s just it, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to tell you that the cold sucks for those vehicles. You have to take into consideration, inclines, declines, wind resistance, if you’re towing etc.

@jimdieselsgarage

Жыл бұрын

@@MissleT0E The rivian was more impacted by the cold than I expected. Honestly, in conserve mode (front wheel drive only) I could barely touch 200 miles from 100%. The Mach E and 100D by comparison could still do ~260

@TheBowerbird

Жыл бұрын

@@MissleT0E The cold doesn't suck, it's just somewhat less efficient. You can reduce that greatly by just preconditioning through the app while plugged in. No you don't have to take into account inclines and declines - you'll make that up regening.

Rivian with more specific tires like BFG AT KO² will crown last hill. Good job guys... (and lady!) 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻

Very entertaining vehicle review😀😀

The price as configured has changed a lot for the R1T!

Looks like the test sites are 2 trails.. started at Gorman Hungry Valley, then moved to The fork at Rowher Flats on that steep climb.. If they used a Rubicon instead of the Mojave, with even the mopar lift, it will be a breeze going up that climb.. no traction boards needed.. front lockers shines there.

@RyanZumMallen

Жыл бұрын

Actually it was Gorman throughout, but I see why you’d think that.

Fun showdown, enjoyed watching both trucks 4x4. We own an R1T, it’s awesome. Not sure I could go back to a conventional truck now (used to own a mid 90’s Wrangler, 4x4 was good, but Terrible gas mileage), unless the power grid goes out, ha.

Does that jeep not have brake limited slip differential in the front?

Mind if I flex a little myself? I have actually BEEN to a real Ziggurat. The Ziggurat of Ur to be precise, near An Nasiriyah, in the beautiful country of Iraq (no, that was not sarcasm, I wish it was safe enough for us ALL to visit there one day). This was built roughly 4,000 years ago and is near where Abraham himself was born and raised. Seeing the test here just reminded me of some amazing memories I had while serving overseas. Thank you all, back to your regularly scheduled video :)

On the last hill with the gladiator, you should put the wheel over the highest point of rock, use the articulation and you would have made it up

Love the comment about the Rivian being a giant laptop lol

That was happy puppy mode for Rivian. 😂

Ya. I was going to comment. 0:27 Gladiator is at 3rd step. 1:02, it's down to 2nd step, seems kinda weird. Did Rivian give you guys a free R1T?

A BEV version of the Mohave would be cool.

I've got a gladiator sport S with a 3.0 eco diesel. So it doesn't have the crawler mode and so forth that the Rubicon or Mojave has, but it does have 450 Lbs or torque and gets a lot better fuel economy.

@electropentatonic

Жыл бұрын

The fuel economy on small diesels is a hard sell for me. Take today's AAA national fuel averages for instance, 3.474 and 4.364 dollars per gallon for gas and diesel, respectively. At 19 combined and 24 combined, the price per mile is .183 and .182, a saving of .001cents per mile for the diesel powered Jeep. In the instance of Jeep-S, the 3.0 carries a $4,150 premium overhead. Divide the overhead by the savings per mile and you'll get your break-even time in miles, this point is 4,150,000 miles. If mpg costs are the perspective, diesel Jeeps are a significant loss for the purchaser.

@davidstockdale4187

Жыл бұрын

@@electropentatonic well diesel has only been this ridiculously out of whack during the democrats/Biden regime and Obama regime previously. They are the sole cause for this. Diesel was 2.50 a gallon previously covid

@electropentatonic

Жыл бұрын

@@davidstockdale4187 Although I do agree this admin is deliberately sabotaging domestic oil to make way for a leftist controlled energy sector, only the difference between the two matters in this function, not the cost of either. Even using Trump's best year, 2020, the cost per mile difference is .003. A 1.3 million mile break-even. I only push this because, It's my belief, that it's a marketing gimmick, exchanging one cost for another, like solar or EV's. In most cases costing the consumer more

Very nice comparison. There is nothing like a well-prepared car, and none of this is one (and preparation for deep mud is different than preparation for rocks) so they did pretty good.

Taking delivery of my R1S in Q3 2023. I’ll be calling Edmunds to sell my trade in vehicle.

Can't wait to compare my old Wrangler to my new Cybertruck some day in the distant future.

Rivian is impressive

Falken Wildpeak AT3W are best all around tire

How much charge left in Rivian’s battery after trying to pass these challenging offload areas?

A Wrangler Rubicon with XR May have had a better shot at making that last hill.

That is why it's a mojave episode lsd front came back on the road or high speed desert run anyways👌 This Rivian has a pretty awesome suspension for what it is and clears 33" by the way👍

I’m calling foul. The opening scene Jeep gets all the way to the top, three steps! Once the Rivian shows up magically he’s down one step. How did that happen?

@CallsignVega

Жыл бұрын

Ya I noticed that too.

@s_dharni2483

Жыл бұрын

Yes some foul plays

The best part starts at 4:46... the "Can you do this" part. That was hilarious!

Given the quality of the video, the helpful content and how professional and likable the two are, this video has definitely not enough views

Emme Hall is fun! More with her.

I was late because I had to charge? Lol. It should have been on the charger over night and been full. FUD…first words.

@mikecoleman4628

Жыл бұрын

I thought that at first too - but depending on where someone was driving from they very well might need to top off before heading to the trail. So, while they were poking a bit of fun, they weren't entirely wrong.

@Wildernut

Жыл бұрын

@@mikecoleman4628 that’s a possibility. Even so, to mention it twice at the very beginning sets the tone for the story. If they knew it would need to be charged, they could have allowed time and not be late. While maybe true, it was purposeful and evident bias.

Doesn't the gladiator also have a speaker built into it that comes out? I thought I saw that online

@MichaelEgli0

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it has a built in Bluetooth soeaker by Alpine. It docks behind the rear seat to charge.

What is the challenge? I didn’t see any…

More Emme content!!!

Come on Edmunds! @ 0:52sec The Jeep is Seating on the 3rd Step , then in the Next shot its on the 2nd Step. Wtf?? is going on ??

Did the R1T have the off-road package?

@mikecoleman4628

Жыл бұрын

The only thing the off-road "package" gets you is an underbody skid plate - it was not relevant to anything they did today.

@ShakerCherukuri

Жыл бұрын

@@mikecoleman4628 has different tires

Did R1T even use its air suspension at the highest setting?

$25,000 difference? How is this even a comparison?

Surprised to see the Rivian's front right wheel not turning on the last obstacle. Some claimed that the R1T's traction control was equal to Land Rover's. Not quite.

@caraveli2573

Жыл бұрын

yeah, but at least Rivian still have a chance with future updates....

Oh yeah, Did you know how much travel the R1T actually had? More than you might expect! 10.2 front and 10.6 rear!

@montechie

Жыл бұрын

Is that at lowest ride height? Most of those systems shorten travel the taller the setting. Would be sweet if it had 10" travel at full clearance.

@LewisIce22

6 ай бұрын

You’re confusing travel with clearance

@Teamvenomracing

5 ай бұрын

NO, i posted the suspension travel. The ground clearance is 15" @@LewisIce22

Physically remove the front sway bars for rock Crawling. Get flex!

Seems like the Rivain had its suspension setup too soft, kinda ruins the 15 inches of ground clearance if its going to sink in like that.

Those 33” tires are not meant for the last obstacle without breaking bad.

So was the Jeep modified with a lift, shocks and different tires or is that what the Mojave version comes with?

@Propelled

Жыл бұрын

The Mojave comes as configured off the showroom floor.

Imagine how much better the Gladiator would be with the 4xe system or even the 392 V8, there's be very little other trucks could do to compete in my opinion.

@Propelled

8 ай бұрын

The inline 6 turbo

She was having to over correct the entire time when she was selling “it’s taking the road so well”

Not as careful with the electric truck. Sponsored video?

Not Rubicon?

I’ll take the rivian babe!!!

Edmunds cars has been doing some of the worst video reviews for a while.

The issue with the drivers, both trucks are good

Both trucks could have made that hill easily, wrong line was used that’s all🤷🏻‍♂️

Time for the drag race in dirt....

Gladiator Rubicon is the way to go. No front locker in the Mojave...

Maybe raise the Rivian before trying the hill.

I'll take the rivian all day!

Awesome video...I'm impressed about the rivian truck ...but I'm a Jeep guy won't trade my Jeep for another 4x4 vehicle brand..only Jeeps

@Cjdergrosse

Жыл бұрын

I was a Jeep'r before my Rivian, after lemoning it I said enough... problem with Jeeps are the crappy dealer network. Come to the dark side haha, love my truck, its like a Jeep without the expensive gas. Next year we can use Tesla Superchargers that are everywhere. Instant torque is the sauce.

Offroading is not about “Sending it”. How about a nice slow steady throttle to see the real comparison. Not Emme going for broke… literally!

Impressed that the rivian matched the modified jeep ! Both did great

@montechie

Жыл бұрын

That's a stock jeep, just what the Mojave comes with. The R1T did great though

why didnt you use the jeep rubicon it would have beat the breaks off the rivian

RIVIAN

I think the weight of the vehicle is the issue, it's going to sink more, tear up trails more

Sooooo, the Gladiator cannot get to the 3rd step despite being there in the intro and the Rivian wins while even totally showing the underside, due to so little flex. Sureeeeeee.

@memonk11

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the BS meter hit 11 on that one.

I dont think u can find a rivian close to 76k

Someone needs to tell Brian he should be in a Subaru Forester with those gloves on.

I'll take the Jeep anyday!

@caraveli2573

Жыл бұрын

I've had the Jeep (Rubicon), and now the Rivian. Rivian all day, unless you are doing really insane rock crawling every weekend.

@JohnsonWhat28

Жыл бұрын

@Caraveli If you are out camping and exploring for a few days, what happens when you run out of charge? Carry a generator I guess?

@caraveli2573

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnsonWhat28 300 miles is more than enough for me. Again, personal preference

@awashkowitz7156

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnsonWhat28 yes, you have to be honest with yourself about your use-case if considering an EV. Just like if you’re out for a few days and run out of gas and either weren’t knowledgeable or experienced enough to bring a can…

@peternguyen2323

Жыл бұрын

Just puller a trailer solar with battery and leave it at your base camp. go play all day and come back and recharge. It sure beat pulling an oil drilling rig and refinery!

Way too much wasted time in this video just get to the point.

The keep has speaker in it tbh

@TNGsp

Жыл бұрын

Jeep

I think the Cybertruck could make it in the last part because it has even more ground clearance..... 16 inches!

@scottgabbard662

Жыл бұрын

This made me chuckle a little bit. I know they are allegedly working on it still, and they’ve been spotted in the wild BUT were you you referencing the cyberWHERE truck? No disrespect, but after the mobile laptop comment in the review, this instantly came to my mind. R1T and Mojave are in the arena. Kudos to both.

@andymika1981

Жыл бұрын

Dude my flying saucer could do it all!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@TroySavary

9 ай бұрын

So far, offroad in the Cybertruck has been a smooth dirt track. Wake me up when Tesla actually lets someone drive it.

It’s always painful seeing below average drivers in the gladiator giving reviews 😔 you did my boy dirty on that hill.

Who the helll goes over 30mphs on off roading?

@0HOON0

Жыл бұрын

Raptor owners.

@rords3695

Жыл бұрын

Baja

@ahmadalanjary2020

Жыл бұрын

Ohhhhh dude 😂. I guess this comment sums up rivian buyers in a nutshell. The bigger question is , if you’re not going over 30 off road why bother ? Might as well walk or hike … 😂

@jake78441

Жыл бұрын

@@ahmadalanjary2020 In my eyes when i hear off-roading i thought you drive slow and take your time?

@persaud101

11 ай бұрын

@@0HOON0 nah not driving a 100k+ truck over 30-mph

High speed transfer case? It’s just a normal gladiator t case 🤣

@Propelled

Жыл бұрын

Nope. The Mojave has a different transfer case to allow higher speeds in low range.🤪

@KTMcaptain

Жыл бұрын

@@Propelled no it doesn’t, it has the standard transfer case as the sport does. Sorry you fell for Jeep marketing.

@Propelled

Жыл бұрын

Quit being a polemic. The Mojave was definitely made with the lower gear range in the t-case from the Rubicon. I have a sport and a Mojave, the t-cases are NOT the same either, the Mojave has Select-trac, the sport does not.

@KTMcaptain

Жыл бұрын

@@Propelled the Mojave has the exact same transfer case, gear ratio and part number, to the sport. You clearly do not understand what you are talking about.

I want to see what happens when you slam the battery bank down on some rocks.

@TheBowerbird

Жыл бұрын

These have a high-strength steel, alloyed aluminum and carbon fiber composite underneath which protects the battery. you can put the entire weight of the vehicle on a space the size of your fist and be just fine.

Hey is it true that Rivian went broke

“I’m a little late I had to charge” yeap that’s the problem…

@HenryBabcock

Жыл бұрын

No that's just Edmunds usual bs propaganda. She forgot to plug it in at home overnight I guess? Dumb.

@Propelled

Жыл бұрын

Notice they never talked about her range after the day.

This is a pretty bad video. First of all, you can manually disconnect the Mojave’s front sway bar. Also, you literally showed footage of yourself climbing up to the same height as the other truck and then said that you couldn’t do it in the next frame. Really weird.

so the Rubicon Gladiator walks the Rivian

Tried really hard to make it to the end of this video but these presenters are unwatchable.

Commander low skill is hilarious. Gladiator truck can't compensate for soy driver.

Prospective Rivian buyers should be aware their vehicles will lose 2% battery every day whether they drive it or not due to a phantom draw.

@mikecoleman4628

Жыл бұрын

Mine doesn't.

@bleep86

Жыл бұрын

mine does not

@TheBowerbird

Жыл бұрын

Wrong. Mine doesn't. I can track it via my Altel charger app every time the battery decreases and requests current. If there's any draw it's a few pennies of electricity.

@TroySavary

9 ай бұрын

You are confusing it with Tesla.

Well one things for sure the R1T sure doesn't beat the gladiator in the styling department. It's ugly . It looks like a Tata Xenon but with a hideous front end treatment...

@HenryBabcock

Жыл бұрын

Couldn't disagree more. R1T is easily the best looking design of any truck on the road today.

@jamessmyth5949

Жыл бұрын

@@HenryBabcock Well if you think so go ahead and buy one. Then people will look at you as you pull up in it and snigger under their breath and feel sorry and embarrassed for you.

@HenryBabcock

Жыл бұрын

@@jamessmyth5949 funny that's how I look at anyone dumb enough to buy a new ICE vehicle in 2023. And yes I have placed an order for a Rivian. 👍

@jamessmyth5949

Жыл бұрын

@@HenryBabcock Well good on you. I mean nobody dictates to you what you want to buy or not buy..it's entirely your choice.

@mikecoleman4628

Жыл бұрын

@@HenryBabcock You are wildly insufferable with your ad hominem attacks. Out here showing your ass, and making the rest of us look bad. Also, I have a Rivian and I think the front end is ugly as hell. Side profile and from the back, it's great. - full on front shot it looks like a sad puppy.

I bet if I were to drive deep In to the desert and run out of power I could not just pull out the gas can and fill her up and keep going on the over sized RC car, just not practical, I see electric vehicle a day transportation to and from work and not long range

@TheBowerbird

Жыл бұрын

Except EVs like the Rivian are incredibly efficient off-road. Vastly more so than things like Jeeps. This is because they don't use any significant amount of power while idling and can regen going down hills. See the Charge Overland page for examples of his multi-day journeys in his Rivian. Also, "RC car"? So is a gas car a lawn mower?

@nathanjohnson3668

Жыл бұрын

ICE are also super fuel efficient off road because they can turn off instead of sitting there idling lol. Only turn on when you need to move. I can stay weeks off grid and carry some gas cans if needed. Any passer by can also fuel me if needed. Don’t over reach. EVs are very cool for daily driving and commuting. But don’t compare to true off roading or over landing. Going fast on dirt and dune running I guess but why not just buy a razor that you can beat on instead of $100k+ daily car lol. And most off road vehicles are about range, control, and reliability. You don’t need a ton of torque to off-road and overland.

Wanted to see a nice off road review of rivian R1t not some crazy screaming grandma she is more loud than that jeep gladiator. Idk why this channel always keep on changing reviewers that lady from Shelby 500 vs Camaro vs Hellcat video was good would like to see her or anyone else who don't "SCREAMS". Have decent people to do reviews we come here to see the performance of cars and trucks and listen to their engine noise not the noises made by humans 😒

uhhhh... my old Subaru Outback could have done all this stuff as well....

"Turns out Rvian trail approved too" yeah sure it is. Why did you omit the elephant in the room? You know, how much battery the R1T didn't have left after the testing. You're not supposed to are you?

@stgeorgee

Жыл бұрын

poor you..

@memememine1

Жыл бұрын

I don't think offroading uses nearly as much battery as you might expect. My friends jeep 4xe looses half it's charge driving 15 mins into town at normal road speeds. But we crawled around for over an hour on a simple trail and some small obstacles in ev mode and the thing still had battery by the end.

@gz1876

Жыл бұрын

Jim gonna get schooled on evs , ev use most battery going at high speed over 65+ , rock crawl / off road does not drain the battery as much

@rords3695

Жыл бұрын

Steep climbs uses more power and energy.. either its gas or battery..

@toddtaylor81

Жыл бұрын

never heard anyone ask about MPG when off-roading so why does battery matter…as long as it can make it to a charger then it’s irrelevant

Anybody that asks for a like and subscribe when the video has hardly started gets a thumbs down and I move on.