Well San Diego Comic-con international had so much content come out I'm still digging through it and this was eye opening. With the best bits coming at the end in the "joke questions" which were frowned upon during the introduction. Just admitting that we did this because nothing said it didn't happen, so we decided we could. Astonishing. But what did you think of the SDCC panel and the Lord of the Rings: Rings of Power Showrunners JD Payne and Patrick Mckay Q&A? Let me know your thoughts below, and as always thanks for watching :) More SDCC content for Rings of Power Cast Q&A's, Wheel of Time and more coming soon! :D

@sciencescripture

Жыл бұрын

Warrior Galadriel has to be a powerful wahmen that is now written as a “Mary Sue”, she has to warn Gil Galad, Cirdan and Elrond that Sauron is still about and to be wary that evil is still out there, lol. Well, that is revisionist history. It was Elrond, Gil Galad, Elendil that fought and bled to free middle earth from the tyranny that is Sauron, while flawed Galadriel welcomed Annatar to her realm, Eregion, when it was actually Gil Galad and Elrond that rejected Annatar and sent messages to Galadriel in Eregion warning her to be wary of the lord of gifts. However, she was duped by Sauron just like being almost overcome by ring lust in the third age. However, she was flawed yet overcame her weaknesses and learned from her mistakes. They have to remake males into bumbling idiots to artificially elevate wahmen. This creates Mary Sue characters and stories that are absurd on the face of it and just bad.

@lordveteran9126

Жыл бұрын

Question...if the were planning on 5 seasons.... WHF did they choose to crush about 30.000 years into one season??? Wtf do you go from there? Its very short sighted at the very least .....I'd be interested in receipts..... where was the money spent....

@heretowatchvideos100

Жыл бұрын

@@sciencescripture Galadriel distrusted Sauron, it was Celebrimbor who welcomed him with open arms.

@heretowatchvideos100

Жыл бұрын

@@lordveteran9126 Biggest rumor is the show will essentially remake Hobbit and Lord of the Rings or it will lead to shows about them.

@skylx0812

Жыл бұрын

Colbert is the go-to shill when the left needs a cheerleader. Lightning struck above him when he was trying to perform an impromtu dance in NYC for a Coumo outdoor event just after the shutdowns were comming to an end. They had to run inside.

The actress that is playing the Dwarven queen was being interviewed and admitted that the cast and crew want to dissemble Tolkien's creation and put their modern bent on it. She went on about wanting this series to be more 'racially inclusive' and it was her hope that when people think of Tolkien for now on, they would have their version concept in mind rather than the faithful canon lore of the books. Screw that lady! To hell with this show if that's where they're going with this. Let it tank!

@rabbitcreative

Жыл бұрын

Link?

@Tilion462

Жыл бұрын

Maybe if she was playing a dwarf from a previously unknown or ancient-ly separated clan that lived beyond Far Harad and focused more on quarrying than mining - I could potentially live with that. Such a clan of dwarves might well have darker skin and no beards...

@Alexs.2599

Жыл бұрын

@@Tilion462 Yeah but there were never Dwarves that migrated to Harad. Or least Tolkien never intimated that in his writings.

@Tilion462

Жыл бұрын

@@Alexs.2599 Well, I'm just reaching for straws at things that would at least in my own head make some kind of sense when connected to Middle Earth, but I'm sure we're far beyond the scope of the Legendarium at this point, yeah...

@Alexs.2599

Жыл бұрын

@@Tilion462 No I hear what you're saying. Yep that's the only explanation at this point.

For me, the most infuriating detail is when these people refer to Simon Tolkien being in on the whole ROP project as some kind of justification why the show is going to be 'legit' or 'good'. That man had disagreements with his father about protecting his grandfather's work of a lifetime. He should have absolutely no right to be thrown around as some kind of key to Tolkien. Of course, people are easy to trick and greed is above everything else right...

@shivan2418

Жыл бұрын

Descendants of great people are often disappointing. The Disney heiress, Napoleon III etc. Many such cases.

@sapphirevilya

Жыл бұрын

Simon Tolkien is sadly a tool. He has always been jealous of his grandfather's work, and instead of making a name for himself, he became a nobody, and he will now be remembered as the one who helped destroy his grandfather's legacy.

@johnglue1744

Жыл бұрын

@@shivan2418 Hugh Hefners daughter.

@akumar1423

Жыл бұрын

In an interview Simon said he thought the Jackson trilogy was "too faithful" to the books. Perfect fit for Amazon.

@wetincornwall6882

Жыл бұрын

@@shivan2418 Nicholas Soames, ex-MP, grandson of Churchill. The acorn fell very far from that tree. Picked up, put on a plane and dumped 3 continents away far...

Best point. Tolkien ‘didn’t want allegory’ he ‘wanted myth’. This absolutely makes sense because it underpins the directness and the drama, essentially the greatness, of Tolkien’s work. Meant first and foremost to entertain and to enliven, not to instruct or to educate by way of moral dictum.

@stijnvdv2

Жыл бұрын

I want this show to come out, so we can all laugh at it when it flops.

@JustAnArrogantAlien

Жыл бұрын

Modern writers are taught in school that the whole point of entertainment is to educate, and that any art that seeks primarily to entertain is “commercialized garbage.” The show runners are activists and honestly believe WE are small-minded and wrong for cherishing Tolkien’s creation and vision. Ironic that the show runners think they hold the moral high ground, when they’re acting no better than Orcs vandalizing everything that isn’t theirs.

@cabe3231

Жыл бұрын

Oh really? Because even as a kid, I knew the Hobbits were an allegory for men, like himself, who were swept out of their comfy homes in order to go to war. I mean, LOTR is a big allegory for war and different races coming together to fight a "world conquering" foe.

@kopykat6843

Жыл бұрын

@@cabe3231 ..... No. If you thought that than you were a over analyzing, wanting to be oh so smart, stupid kid that apparently never matured, never learned humility, and never learned you are often wrong in life. The hobbit was NOT allegory you pompous dumb ass.

@collectivesartori

Жыл бұрын

@@cabe3231 just because a work of fiction can be read as allegory doesn’t mean that’s how its author intended it. An author always has in mind, consciously or not, some pattern of the ‘real world’ when creating their fictional worlds anyway. So the fact that any work of fiction ‘rhymes with reality’ is inevitable.

Even PJ’s Trilogy wasn’t canonical. But the difference is it stayed true to Tolkiens lore and respected the source material enough to not inject pointless worldviews and allegories. What we got was a masterful set of films that can be rewatched and appreciated for a long time. You cant just change and vandalize someone else’s art and expect it to received well by their fans.

@D3voidofsoul

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. He even admitted he had to change things as is expected when going from a book to a movie. However he always tried to keep to the spirit and lore of Tolkien. That is what makes the Trilogy truly a timeless classic. They dreg they are creating for TRoP flies in the face of Tolkien lore and they made intentional changes they knew Tolkien would not have approved of.

@khfan4life365

Жыл бұрын

I think PJ did the best he could to translate Tolkien’s books to the big screen. It is only natural that some things would get cut out along the way, but he did his best to stay true to the message and story Tolkien told. He wanted to honor Tolkien, not desecrate his legacy like these people are doing.

@leonmachin4948

Жыл бұрын

Drivvlepeter Jackson got similar backlash than this show when the trailers dropped and that’s saying sumat, all pre judgment, history repeats it self

@cazd4590

Жыл бұрын

Pj made alot of unnecessary changes that I find it hard to look past. But he didn’t inject woke culture because it didn’t really exist. People are tired of it and It will affect the reception for sure

@audreybailey5139

Жыл бұрын

PJ could have focused more on the story and less on the big battle scenes. He missed up Eowyn's speech. What the heck is Steven Cobert doing on a LOTR panel?

Everything Tolkien wrote is canon. Anything Tolkien did not write is not canon. And yes, the passage is taken of context. The passage starts with a 'once upon a time'. The letter was written some years before LotR had been published. It is referring back to when Tolkien was starting his 'Lost Tales' mythology. The passage is not referring to LotR or his developed mythology. Letters 201, 207, 210 and 292 are more to the point of Tolkien's thoughts on his legendarium

@the98themperoroftheholybri33

Жыл бұрын

That's the definition of Canonical

@haha__hihi

Жыл бұрын

@@the98themperoroftheholybri33 except that there are things in which Tolkien contradicts himself, or to better put it, he has written multiple versions and variations of the same characters/storyline...who is to said which is right and which is not...thats why LOTR and maybe hobbit are the primary cano and, was edited by tolkien himself to be compact...

@petriew2018

Жыл бұрын

one addendum i think that's critically necessary given the depths these smoothbrains will sink : The works Tolkien himself thought worthy of publishing supersede everything else. If the Book of Lost Tales contradicts the Lord of the Rings.... yeah, Lord of the Rings is the canon. If what tolkien said in a letter is contradicted by what he wrote in Lord of the Rings... yeah, the letter doesn't matter. Lord of the Rings is Tolkien's final product. No matter what he dabbled in before or after, Lord of the Rings is his final say. Lord of the Rings, the novels themselves, is the final say.

@the98themperoroftheholybri33

Жыл бұрын

@@haha__hihi whatever is written within a published book is canon by definition, the author cannot go back and claim to have changed what occurred (Like JK Rowling has done). If you're referring to his notes, then that's different, they're notes and not completed works.

@petriew2018

Жыл бұрын

@@haha__hihi Tolkien chose not to publish either the Silmarillion or the Book of Lost Tales, those were done after his death, after being edited by his son. That's a pretty damn unambiguous way to know what Tolkien intended to be the actual canon, i should think.

When bezos said he wanted his own GOT, did he mean the part when the show runners start winging it, and it just ends so bad that no one even talks about it anymore?

@ryangordon133

Жыл бұрын

Lmao great comment and excellent point

@anon-yw4wd

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@TheSuperappelflap

Жыл бұрын

he meant he wanted a fantasy show that appeals to a broader audience than just fantasy nerds. unfortunately that always means its going to be trash because normies cant follow interesting complicated stories.

It is interesting to see their rationalizations. The best thing we can do is deny them our money and time, if we want to show that we love what Tolkien wrote, that is the easiest way to do it. Deny them our time and money.

@kevinbell5674

Жыл бұрын

Hard to deny them money if you already have a Prime account. I definitely won't be watching it though.

@moresnacksplease526

Жыл бұрын

I wish they had a metric for determining who's watching vs. hate-watching the show.

@zorkzamboni

Жыл бұрын

Stop buying everything from Amazon if you really want to bring the balance back.

Worst of all: many of these "invented" characters are not really new, they're woked versions of PJ's LOTR. Nori= female Frodo, Poppy=female Sam, Arondir=black Legolas; even Galadriel is a female Aragorn.

@deriznohappehquite

Жыл бұрын

They basically removed everything unique and interesting about the second age and inserted a Flanderized version of LOTR. This show could just as well be a D&D show.

@airixxxx

Жыл бұрын

And they said they wanted the show to be "positive, high spirited". They missed the part of the fist ages being complete tragedies.

@reek4062

Жыл бұрын

You sound really pathetic. Also, your comment confirms you're a peter jackson fanboy, not a Tolkien fan.

@reek4062

Жыл бұрын

@@deriznohappehquite ok incel

@reek4062

Жыл бұрын

@@airixxxx Second Age is not the First Age. Can't you count to two?

I'm really looking forward to the part where Gandalf rides into Numenor on his jet ski and teaches the elves to cut and dye their hair.

@daveeyes

Жыл бұрын

Naw, that's Boba Fett.

This isn't Tolkien and I've HATED everyone's appropriation of Tolkien's "other minds and hands" quote. I think "other minds and hands" would be something more akin to the ways we have seen mythologies studied, translated, artistic renditions, and music compositions created. Eddaic stories, Arthurian Legends, you can see this in Tolkiens translations of Gawain and the Green Knight, Sigurd and Gudrun, The Fall of Arthur, and Beowulf. Certainly not a megacorporation franchising it for content, a wholly new set of stories that scrubs what Tolkien ACTUALLY wrote, even calling it The Lord of the Rings only making their title a sub-title. It's inappropriate. A co-opting, a hijacking, an appropriation.

@disparutoo

Жыл бұрын

The contribution over time to the collective work of literature/art/culture that could be considered part of a growing English mythology. Given that we know he didn't like people messing and altering his work. It's hard to even see another interpretation of his words.

@kathleenhensley5951

Жыл бұрын

I actually made a rug from one of his doodles ... found it in a book. It was supposed to be a numenorean design.. I still have the rug, its nearly 40 yrs old!

@D3voidofsoul

Жыл бұрын

@@kathleenhensley5951 That is awesome!

@peterandjunko

Жыл бұрын

@@disparutoo when reading that full quote it’s interesting that it starts with “Don’t Laugh!” and ends with “Absurd”. So I think the whole passage is his flight of fancy that he can create his own legend set in NW Europe- At least at the time of that letter’s writing. I got the sense he was talking about a shared cultural heritage of stories (like Arthur etc) that he alone cannot create, hence “Absurd”. For them to use that quote out of context as permission to bastardize his own stories is amazing. Especially when we have his scathing letter about the 1958 movie script treatment that he clearly felt was an abomination . That is a more “applicable” quotation to the RoP.

@feconisb.3067

Жыл бұрын

​@@peterandjunko I would interpret it as Tolkien calling his ambitions "absurd" because he is self-depricating, as he often was when talking about his work. At that point he did not believe he could create a mythology that would inspire so many different artists, but the fandom has proved him wrong over many decades. Because that's exactly what happended.

Did that guy just imply that Harfoots aren't Hobbits? They're a subspecies of Hobbit, Harfoots, Stoors and Fallowhides were all types of Hobbits which inhabited different areas of Middle Earth, also *they didn't exist by the 2nd age*

@kvasir7537

Жыл бұрын

They are legally distinct! xD

@peterd788

Жыл бұрын

@@kvasir7537 Indeed, they cannot be hobbits because hobbits cannot legally be mentioned.

@brandtbollers3183

Жыл бұрын

If There were Hobbits in Eriador in the Second Age.They would be stone age hunter/ gathers like the Druadain.The only others inhabits.

"Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made" - J.R.R. Tolkien

@reek4062

Жыл бұрын

another manchild using a false quote

@christuffer

Жыл бұрын

The Era of Creativity is done. The Era of Destruction is upon us.

@The_Deaf_Aussie

Жыл бұрын

"People who comment quotes are idiots" - everyone

@deadlegjack2574

Жыл бұрын

@@The_Deaf_Aussie tit

@theend9494

Жыл бұрын

same goes for music

"Adapted to fit the modern world" is the most culturally appropriative thing I have ever heard

“Tolkien never said Harfoots didn’t do anything extraordinary in the second age” but he did. He said that the race was hitherto unknown to the men of the west prior to their first contact 1000 years into the third age. Talk about what Tolkien implied, pretty sure he’s implying no race of hobbit was involved in the events of the second age. Btw, where tf are the fallohides and stoors?

@CatRoxy86

Жыл бұрын

As someone who is not as emotionally invested into Tolkien but likely won’t watch this show because I don’t like the looks and vibe of it and would prefer a more faithful Tolkien adaption: If there was no contact, that doesn’t mean the Harfoots didn’t exist (they hardly popped into existence at contact) or didn’t do anything that went under the radar .

@thinkwithurdipstick

Жыл бұрын

@@CatRoxy86 no contact is another way of saying they were not involved in the events of the second age, therefore they shouldn’t be in the show and the showrunners are ultimately simply full of shit, merely because they’re looking for any reason to shove in as much nostalgia bait as possible, regardless of whether it makes sense or not

@naughtybethesda1954

Жыл бұрын

And they guy in the interview also made it out as if Harfoots aren’t even hobbits.

If you've ever watched the "Behind the scenes" stuff from the Peter Jackson, you see how he's always reading the original novels to get a sense of the scene and tone in question. These guys not only didn't read the books, they don't understand the underlying tone and message of the whole cycle.

@F0R35T3R

Жыл бұрын

I remember watching the bonus features in the extended editions of the movies, and hearing Ian McKellen saying that the whole cast had at least one of the books on them at all times to reference how their character might behave in a specific scene. Even going so far as Sean Astin grasping Elijah Wood's arm when he wakes up in Rivendell. That part is directly mentioned in the book (don't remember what page number, but it's in Book 2 Chapter 1).

@gianna526

Жыл бұрын

@@F0R35T3R Yep, when I first watched the movies right after reading the books I found so many little details that were mentioned in the book that weren't important at all and you wouldn't notice if you didn't understand. I'm sure there'll be a few interesting details in this show but I doubt there'll be nearly as many as LOTR had.

@selenemoon5056

Жыл бұрын

I don't believe they read it

@jonathanchester5916

Жыл бұрын

I don't know about anyone else, but it took me at least 3 readings of LOTR and HOB to really digest and process it. A pair of cupcakes reading the cliff notes is not going to cut it. At least Viggo read the whole book at least once and then immersed himself in the lore during production. Not like the Love Island Twinks and Ugly Aunty in this high school nonsense.

@workingmothercatlover6699

Жыл бұрын

They don't even realize that it isn't Baggins that crave adventure. It's Bilbo's mother's side. It's the Took side of Bilbo and Frodo. And that is in the first chapter of The Hobbit.

I just love how it's always European tales/books etc that need to become "diverse" or "reflect the real world"... You want to try some diverse casting in African tales as well Hollywood. No? I thought not. I want all works to be treated with respect that includes sticking to any source material as close as possible. That includes characters, story, lore etc. Yes changes are fine as somethings won't adapt to screen easily but if an adaptation can't even get a characters description right? Why the hell would I trust that adaptation to get anything else right. They seem to avoid actual cool mythology/stories from other countries. I would love to see a TV series with African myths being on display as I would love to learn and see it. The only country (Outside of Europe) I've seen truly treating European tales with some respect is Japan.

@YouSuprised

Жыл бұрын

They hate all people of European descent, their cultures, their civilizations, their myths, their legends, their hero's, their tragedies, their architecture, their faiths, their traditions, their norms, their values, their laws and all their achievements through hardships. That is the truth. By increasing forms of harmful symbolism, they show more and more their true colours with each passing day.

@betochiwas

Жыл бұрын

And by the way, do you remember The Last Air Bender? And how they changed the Inuit and Tibetan inspired characters for white people? They cant even do that right

@YouSuprised

Жыл бұрын

@@betochiwas In the defence of the director. Even though the characters were based on Asian ethnicities, they also possessed many European ethnic characteristics. But I do understand what you mean.

@betochiwas

Жыл бұрын

@@YouSuprised also they chose a White Woman for the ancient one in Dr. Strange instead of a Tibetan looking person.. the hypocresy

@crackedhammer4612

Жыл бұрын

@@betochiwas you mad about that? Blame China and Disney bending over for them

The showrunners remind me of the Blue Wizards. Nobody knows who they are or what they've done.

@dr.destouches619

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂 (With the difference that in the case of the showrunners no one would have wanted to know)

@Casual-Enthusiast

Жыл бұрын

Good point but... The blue wizards in Maia forms were called Alatar and Pallando and when they entered middle earth (supposedly in the second age, maybe even 2000 years before the rest of the istari) they were called Morinehtar and Romestamo amd went east to Rhun and Harad, undermining sauron's influence over the men of the east. They are probably the reason the west wasn't overrun by the east as the east had a significantly larger population than the west. Considering little is known about the blue wizards, they ironically played one of the most pivotal roles in stopping sauron's dominance of the west. Sorry for the lore dump.

@saladinbob

Жыл бұрын

@@Casual-Enthusiast I'm aware of the lore and you missed out the bit were Tolkien toyed with the idea that they actually fell to Darkness, a further parallel to be drawn with the showrunners. Gandalf was the only one to return to Valinor.

@disparutoo

Жыл бұрын

If I was involved in Star Trek Beyond I wouldn't want anyone to know I was anything to do with it too lmao

@Casual-Enthusiast

Жыл бұрын

@@saladinbob he did ponder their fates for a while, but later clarified in a letter. They remained true to their mission, as their name sakes suggest when renamed in istari form. Alatars istari name in quenya literally meant Darkness-slayer. I don't believe Tolkien named him this if he had been corrupted. But Tolkien didn't outline their fates entirely so either way could work.

2:55 When things "Get taken away." the question he poses is, "How far into the darkness would you go to get them back?" That question itself is the antithesis of Tolkien. The original trilogy was the exact opposite of that. When the darkness surrounds you what will you sacrifice for the sake of good? Frodo was protected against the evil of the ring precisely because he was pure of heart. It is the awful trending of media/culture to say, "When the things I love are threatened, I can justify any evil to get them back," is horrible in every sense. It is when the rescuer gains the whole world but loses his soul.

@daveeyes

Жыл бұрын

Good point.

@haha__hihi

Жыл бұрын

I am really disturbed by their statement...my only hope is they are so dumb and full of themselves they don't actually understand even their own quote and what it means for the characters and story

@Puma5

Жыл бұрын

I don’t see it necessarily implied that this means they would want to justify evil actions. More like “venturing into darkness”, being courageous to get your freedom back. That’s exactly what Frodo and Sam did, going into Mordor, the heart of darkness.

@haha__hihi

Жыл бұрын

@@Puma5 I agree it could be this but hear me out, that would be the old Tolkien world which they clearly want to make shift from to something new...from what they are saying I've got an impression that they wouldn't ask such question and present it as such novelty if this "story motivation" was already played out in the past adaptions But I may be wrong here and maybe it's like you said which would be ok in essence. I don't know, I really try to stay impartial and reserve my better judgement for when the show comes out but after all these news and interviews and whatnot, I am starting to lose my cool. We will see, it's one more month... Who knows if more materials will be released before that and what it will tell us about the show Right now I am more convinced the people leading this project care only about their egos and careers, they saw the oil reserves under cemetery so they've decided to dig up Tolkien's grave for profit

I don't believe a single answer they gave for a simple reason: they admitted they wanted this project to be a "blank canvass" so they could do whatever they wanted to do. They wanted the gravitas of Tolkien, but they did not want to be bound by the things Tolkien created. The sheer hubris of that is breath taking.

Tolkien: I dislike allegories. NPC's: He loved allegories Tolkien: My works should reflect a particular mythos and universe NPC's: He loved to represent other societies and worlds. Tolkien: Oh..well.

Good to see SDCC seemed to pull in a crowd of the weirdos out in San Deigo, California but left the remainder of the Tolkien fandom unimpressed with ratios across the board. People are getting tired with the out-of-touch antics of entitled corporations. Keep working to make your voices heard and snuff this horrid corporate project out!

@disparutoo

Жыл бұрын

They said in the panel that about 6,500 to 7,000 people were in that panel room. I am looking forwards to the range of reactions when the show releases. The reviews should be very interesting to see what people focus on.

@Gojirastar5477

Жыл бұрын

@@disparutoo I wouldn't take their attendance at face value. I've been to SDCC. They were in Hall H. Hall H has a 6500 max attendance. Hall H is where they have the big movie and TV panels. A lot of people will camp Hall H waiting for specific panels and leave or stay in Hall H for the whole day and wait for the major panels like Marvel or DC which usually happen at the end of the afternoon. From the schedule that day the Rings of Power was the first panel of the day (10:30am - 12pm) in Hall H with two Walking Dead panels and a panel with Keanu Reeves' BRZRKR later in the afternoon. I would wager that most people in the Hall H were there for those other panels and not necessarily for RoP.

@Aenarion28

Жыл бұрын

Born and raised in San Diego and this is Bullshit. This is San Diego Woke Con. Comics have been missing since 2016

@Gojirastar5477

Жыл бұрын

@@Aenarion28 Agreed. Use to come in from Phoenix. The last SDCC I attended was in 2015 and you could see the problems already then. I like variety in memorabilia but comics should be front & center at a comic book convention. Going to stick with smaller conventions locally. At least they still are dedicated to comics out on the main floor. So, frustrating.

@just42day

Жыл бұрын

Lol. Weirdos? are you calling your own people weird? Your hatred is fucking cringe worthy🤢

Gotta love how the showrunners and actors admit that this show is nothing like the books at all

@D3voidofsoul

Жыл бұрын

All while saying whenever they had questions they went to the books. What books? There are no books for this age and what you are creating bears no resemblance to any Tolkien books that were written. The Appendices you did buy you are ignoring so...wtf are they talking about.

@guestuser1671

Жыл бұрын

Amazon only owns the right to a tiny part of Tolkien’s work, not enough to produce anything or substance so Amazon went “Eff it, we’ll just do whatever we want.”

I don't know what is worse them distorting and destroying the world that Tolkien created or the smugness in which they do it. It is bad enough the showrunners are doing this crap but the people that claim to be fans helping them really makes me angry. They crap on his works and then claim he would have loved it using distorted quotes.😠😡🤬

@daveeyes

Жыл бұрын

I think the one guy (Mr. Forehead) *thinks* he's smart enough to replace Tolkien, but he is severely mistaken. I'm sure he's surrounded by people telling him his every idea is FANTASTIC, THE BEST EVER, which is typical Hollywood. Folks, the showrunners are amateurs with only a couple uncredited script tweaks to the worst of the new Star Treks, the one that killed the reboot series. They're in WAY over their heads. Creating new fiction is HARD. Taking modern day problems... polarization, etc... and changing the names and throwing a quick slap of paint on them is EASY. Yawn. I wonder who will play Donald Trump. Probably Sauron. I'm sure they'll have a January 6th uprising. I wonder how they'll do 9/11. Will Galadriel have a girlfriend? Who's bi? Who's disabled? How are they stunning and brave? Most of all, THIS IS NOT HIGH FANTASY. I look forward to a big night opening, then a gradual disgust leading people to say, screw this. Like Wheel of Time. They can make as many of those as they want, but I'm not tuning in. Sorry for the rant. I've been wanting to get this off my chest for awhile.

@_Uh_Oh_

Жыл бұрын

They are definitely proud that they are shitting all over it and nobody can stop them - just more evidence of the pondlife involved in this project.

@haha__hihi

Жыл бұрын

@@daveeyes I know right...they are so content with themselves....I would expect more humility from someone claiming to be life long Tolkien fans (i.e. the writers)

@michiel1162

Жыл бұрын

@@daveeyes i still don't understand how some randos in their end 30s with 1 (uncredited) writing credit end up with 1 billion dollars to make this show. Talk about being incompetent

@josepnebotrius872

Жыл бұрын

Because of greed. They expend a billion to make the series and Amazon wants their money back.

I feel like if you watch Colbert’s face (what you can see of it anyway) he literally looks like he is dying inside this whole interview. This man usually LIGHTS UP with so much joy and passion when talking about LOTR and Tolkien.

@peppermintpig974

Жыл бұрын

That's Colbert? I thought it was Rachel Maddow.

These people are terrible, reading they're attempts to justify their decisions in print is bad enough but hearing it from their smug, condescending, arrogant mouths is so much worse. They have no shame 😒

@JGVIllustrations

Жыл бұрын

It’s cringe!!!

@bighornriverpaul

Жыл бұрын

These losers will be gone in two seasons.

@thesanfranciscoseahorse473

Жыл бұрын

It's worse. Those people live that way throughout their regular everyday lives, AND they are very wealthy so they can usually retreat into safe isolated echo-chambers any time someone counters them on literally anything. I believe hollywood and its media corporate culture in general are among the most unhealthy and toxic societies ever to exist on this earth.

@gmsingh100

Жыл бұрын

Oh boy is that true.

For me it isn't even about the message as some channels like to put it, it is about the laziness in creativity that is now in charge of creative companies. As long as your parent company has enough money they can buy the naming rights to an older and better story specifically so that you can write your terrible story on top of that outline and drop a few names in in order to lend yourself some unearned credibility. I'm not done with Hollywood because they are political, I'm done with them because they've stopped being entertaining and now just worry about validating themselves to each other.

@patrik3450

Жыл бұрын

“Now just worry about validating themselves” is so true, unfortunately it is all about their political message while doing this. Hollywood is a parasite these days destroying and infesting all they touch and their self glorifying attitude makes me vomit

I look forward to seeing some Transformers showing up because Tolkien never said they didn't show up.

As someone who has studied and wrote about Tolkien, specifically about his political and economic ideas, I am convinced he would not approve of this. He didn't like American culture so seeing his English mythology Americanised, I'm convinced, would have deeply angered him. The disgusting profiteering from the debased Amazon is definitely something he would have disapproved of. The way Amazon behaves is not congruent with what Tolkien stood for. It should never have got into Amazon's hands. I will reserve judgement but I am pretty sure this will be utter shite!

@reek4062

Жыл бұрын

I don't think Tolkien would make a video to cry aboot some dumb show, let alone many videos,.

@sugarplumvodka8408

Жыл бұрын

@@reek4062 lol, no he quite literally wrote an angry letter about ppl in the future distorting his work. And also he dislikes his own Tolkien weebs.

@StygicHymn

Жыл бұрын

@@reek4062 you don’t know Tolkien, he was quick with the pen

@VictoriaAbernethy

Жыл бұрын

@@StygicHymn I don't think anyone can now say they knew Tolkien. We can only theorise. I believe Tolkien's mood were quite turbulent but I have never seen him back track on what he's said. He was a philologist so I would say he chose his words carefully, knew the power of words. I'm not sure he would shoot his mouth off in the way we know this idiom to mean today. We need to remember to place Tolkien into his time period.

@VictoriaAbernethy

Жыл бұрын

@@reek4062 Nope but he would write a great deal of letters to people about how he felt. There are 354 letters in Carpenters book the letters of J R R Tolkien. It is worth a read if you like Tolkien which I guess you don't so, good morning!

it’s totally insane to me that they’re attempting to gaslight us by using an entire paragraph-long Tolkien quote via changing the context completely by cutting off the very last word

@rpgadventurer32

Жыл бұрын

It's not just that, they're misrepresenting the quote, it's like they don't understand how to read.

@0heck

Жыл бұрын

I'm really disappointed in Stephen. Given how dear this author and his stories are to him, I was hoping to see more pushback to defend it.

@Balandrus

Жыл бұрын

@@0heck You're joking, right? Colbert with a moral compass?

@ericclancyviscom

Жыл бұрын

Which quote?

@itsokimautistic3848

Жыл бұрын

That is what evil does. Good is bad, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength

The way you stand up for Tolkiens work would make the Professor smile. ♥

Among all the other things that drive me crazy about this show, it really grinds my gears with the constant insistence that Harfoots are not Hobbits when, in fact, they are! There were three types of hobbits: Harfoots, Stoors, and Fallohides. They ARE hobbits. And likewise, it's so dumb of them to think it cannot feel like Middle Earth without hobbits. Anyways, looking forward to more of these videos.

@RoseBaggins

Жыл бұрын

Hard agree!! Which raises the question, will we see the other two?

@andrewpequita6569

Жыл бұрын

Agree completely. None of the three races of Hobbits are mentioned in the Silmarillion because he hadn’t actually created Hobbits yet. They wanted a connection the the PJ movies so that’s why these cunts chose the second age. Instead of doing a generational tale with the different eras of the Silmarillion.

@thinkwithurdipstick

Жыл бұрын

@@RoseBaggins exactly, where tf are the other two races of hobbit?

@sacrebleuthedeadlypokeofzo8566

Жыл бұрын

I don't know if Amazon really has bought the rights to all of Tolkien's other works yet, but nothing would make me happier if the rights owner to all things "hobbit" including the name "hobbit" (like the Saul Zaentz Company) sued Amazon for plaguerism or copyright infringement over the "harfoots", who are hobbits in all but name. If a company doesn't have the explicit right to use Tolkien's hobbits, then Amazon is definitely violating that copyright with their "harfoots". Fingers crossed that a lawsuit is in the works!

@Balandrus

Жыл бұрын

@@sacrebleuthedeadlypokeofzo8566 They have the rights to The Hobbit, Lord of the Rings, and the appendices in Return of the King. The overwhelming majority of this story is their own invention, as they don't have the rights to any substantive material for the period.

Re-reading LOTR now and Tolkien's prologue (at least in the Kindle version) goes on in detail about not intending any of the story to allegory real life in any way. He even makes it clear his time in the war didn't make him want to relate anything in the story to the real world.

@criert135

Жыл бұрын

But it’s undeniable that his experiences in the war would have influenced his work, even subconsciously

Not Canonical. Not Middle Earth.

@disparutoo

Жыл бұрын

Even from just the comments on the panel. I don't see how this could be argued any other way.

@Matt42MSG

Жыл бұрын

To make anything new, creators have to step outside of canon. But, they ought not contradict it. This show is anti-canonical. Galadriel was simply never a warrior. The hobbits never came to anyone's particular notice, to the point that Sauron and Saruman knew nothing about them. Elves just aren't black. And so on, and so on.

@museyamwa

Жыл бұрын

Middle earth is based on middle age Europe. There was Black folk around and ruling.

@criert135

Жыл бұрын

@@museyamwa There really weren’t

@museyamwa

Жыл бұрын

@@criert135 They were if you read check out JA Rogers, color kmows no lines, Rusian icons by Vlad Ivanov. All ancient scholars agrree on it. Its these whitewashed images.

I remember watching the behind the scenes of the original trilogy of LOTR and seeing Ian Mckellan walking around quoting the books in protest to the script multiple times. It’s a shame that won’t be the case for this show.

@josepnebotrius872

Жыл бұрын

Something I don't believe that anyone involved in the serie reading any of the Tolkien's book or trying to see how what were their doing was faithful on the LoTR spirit. They had they preestablished message and used the middle earth as background. If they used any other D&D or sword and sorcery would t Had been ok. They used Tolkien because of fame and notoriety because of $$$ no other fantasy lore is as popular as LoTR so the used the LoTR because of it's popularity.

Can I just point out, that, simply reading Tolkien's quote here, how I smiled? Because just like the vast legend he constructed of the English language (and so much more besides) and the visions he brung to my mind as I read just instantly urged me to pick the books all up again! I absolutely adore his writing, it was absolute art to me and I very much felt wiserfor having read it. THAT is why Tolkien fans will NOT be fazed by a ridiculous version of his works. We have the original beauty there for all of us to dive into again, and bring his massively detailed world back to life instantly, for us alone. THAT is why I give no regard to this cheap, immature and down right wrong imitation that Amazon is spewing forth. I can find it in its original beauty, every time I pick up his works. What a power that is! I hate the sound overly passionate or maybe even a little corny but it's exactly how I feel. This will be forgotten but his Works will live on for centuries hopefully thousands of years.

@jimreaper1337

Жыл бұрын

What's a "Brung" when it's at home? You mean Brought, as in the visons he brought....I know grammar nazi and all that, but i really couldn't let that go, sorry

@SuperLordgoth

Жыл бұрын

@@jimreaper1337 Isn't it ironic that you spelt visions incorrectly. Just saying ;)

@jimreaper1337

Жыл бұрын

@@SuperLordgoth haha i totally missed the I but that's kind of a common mistake, especiallywhen writingon such a small screen... Writing "Brung" instead of "Brought" was intentional even if ignorant, there is a massive difference, but nice catch

@reek4062

Жыл бұрын

ok incel

This is expected, remember in one of the interviews from months ago, that the showrunners said that they are creating the story that Tolkien never wrote, and this is due to the fact that they have limited source materials ( appendices of LoTR). it's really just an excuse for them to be able to do whatever they want, and we can already see some of it from the several teasers/trailers released by Amazon.

So, like the "silver canon" Halo show, this is explicitly NOT canonical, by the company's own admission?

@Tar-Elenion

Жыл бұрын

It would not matter what the company said or did, or even how faithful the show is, it would not be canonical. Only what Tolkien wrote is canon.

@darthbiscuit

Жыл бұрын

The "Rangz" timeline

@disparutoo

Жыл бұрын

They haven't gone that far. I think (not wanting to put words in his mouth) that Colbert's definition of canon is "is it in the authors text". Which is a reasonable definition. And under that definition, the vast majority of this isn't canon. How could it be, they have repeatedly said they chose an area that was barely written about in any detail.

@Mediados

Жыл бұрын

@@disparutoo Honestly that's good to hear for me. Cause it means I don't have to pay attention to it at all and finally can somehow comprehend why Stephen Colbert would stand behind this. I don't support it but at least I now see his perspective.

@Tar-Elenion

Жыл бұрын

@@disparutoo Colbert has some knowledge of Tolkien. But his interview was a joke. He did not challenge them on anything, but simply accepted whatever they said.

I GUARANTEE Amazon hired and paid audience members to be in that conference room to clap and applaud these guys. GUARANTEEEEE

The term "stolen valour" comes to mind for what they're doing.

@brockdavid

Жыл бұрын

😂 It works, Tolkien was a veteran. And, these hacktivists seem to despise us, for some reason… 😂

We can only hope it'll loose them hundreds of millions of dollars, this might make them think twice before destroying yet another franchise on the altar of "Woke".

@reasonablyserious

Жыл бұрын

Altar

@Johnsmith-ko9yj

Жыл бұрын

@@reasonablyserious Thank you, I've amended my grammatical mistake.

@D3voidofsoul

Жыл бұрын

The sad part is the fact that this is Amazon doing this. Most people get an Amazon subscription for the shipping and the movies\shows are just a nice extra. If this were a Hulu or Netflix you would see the subscriptions drop at an amazing rate. However since it is Amazon most people will just not watch it in protest and it will not effect subscription rates much. The only silver lining to this is that since most true fans are not going to watch it they will not get a subscriber bump either like they are hoping. Small consolation as I want them to hurt for what they did to TWoT and will do to LoTR. We will have to see.

@AKS-666

Жыл бұрын

That's why the fee for Prime is raised 30% 😆

Calling Amazon's middle earth fanfic LOTR is like calling Stephen Colbert a comedian.

@tealsquare

Жыл бұрын

Brave thing to say from the comfort of a keyboard 😂😂😂

@sacrebleuthedeadlypokeofzo8566

Жыл бұрын

@Teal Square You really think even one person here would be afraid to call Colbert a POS to his face? What year do you think this is? Nobody in the real world has liked or respected celebrities enough to show them cordiality or deference since about 2012. There is, if anything, a bigger incentive to insult smug celebrities to their faces these days, since it would make for great viral videos. Your idea that people would be too scared to take that opportunity in 2022 is hilarious to me.

@stillcantbesilencedevennow

Жыл бұрын

@@tealsquare oh yeah, Colbert is SOOOOO frightening.... to an infant.

I didn't care for the PJs Hobbit trilogy, but this will make the hobbit look like a masterpiece

@FinrodFelagund5

Жыл бұрын

Not for me. For me, this RoP abomination has only increased my love for the source material, the way Tolkien wrote it, no more and no less.

@anon-yw4wd

Жыл бұрын

There are many fam cuts that put the trilogy into one movie and a lot are 95% is like the book.

@darianstarfrog

Жыл бұрын

@@anon-yw4wd oh cool!! Do you have a link for any? I'm not watching three Hobbit movies..

Tolkein's "Lord of the Rings" was to be this eras equivalent to Homer's "Iliad" or Shakespeare's "Romeo and Juliet". Yet this new show will probably be as culturally relevant as the 2016 "Ghost Busters" or the last season of Game of Thrones. It's relevancy will cease to exist within the next two years and what little popularity remains will be the result of it's critics bringing it up as an example of failure.

@Don-ds3dy

Жыл бұрын

While we're on that topic...WHY NOT ADAPT THE ILIAD TO A LIVE ACTION SERIES? There is so much racial diversity in that story with characters from Europe Africa and Asia...and given the region and era you could easily fit in a few gay/bisexual or possibly even a trans character. Put in some progressive narrative about how horrible men can be at times, make some religious commentary concerning the Greek Pantheon, etc etc...but nah it wouldn't sell as well as something with Lord of the Rings in the title. Money is all Jeff cares about.

@Neerepha

Жыл бұрын

Oh I really hope they don't even get those two years of fame... Many of those modernized movies or just bad adaptation were a failure straight from day 1. The only difference is that we don't talk about them anymore . Like they never existed. There's a single movie in the James Bond series that was shot with an actor that wasn't nor Sean Connery nor Roger Moore (I don't remember his name)... My late father was as obsessed with James Bond as I am with Tolkien and I have never ever seen him watching that movie because he said it was bad and the actor wasn't a good 007. I feel like RoP is something similar: something that will (unfortunately) exist but that fans will erase from their memory and never take into consideration.

@deriznohappehquite

Жыл бұрын

This show is like one of those Reimagining’s of Romeo and Juliet where they undercut the entire story in an attempt to “update the story for a modern audience.”

@stillcantbesilencedevennow

Жыл бұрын

Lmao. Season 5-8 of GoT.... Man, I never thought I'd see something rise so high, just to fall so flat. From the veritable heartbeat of the zeitgeist, to forgotten and besotted in record time. DnD are so terrible. 😆

The harfoot answer was especially telling. Harfoots are a sub class of hobbit so, yes, Tolkien did say they couldn’t be in the second age

@matroska_5625

Жыл бұрын

You're right that the showrunners are BSing about the harfoots somehow being different from hobbits, but they would've been around - it's not like they just popped into existence a few thousand years ago. Tolkien just says they weren't mentioned in history books until recently because they hid from people - and that the history is written by elves and mostly concerned with elves. But there are countless things that have happened IRL that aren't in history books. "The beginning of Hobbits lies far back in the Elder Days that are now lost and forgotten. Only the Elves still preserve any records of that vanished time, and their traditions are concerned almost entirely with their own history, in which Men appear seldom and Hobbits are not mentioned at all. Yet it is clear that Hobbits had, in fact, lived quietly in Middle-earth for many long years before other folk became even aware of them." - from the start of Fellowship of the Ring

I have nothing against these people personally. But to see someone who does so little to showcase intelligence, eloquence, class and finesse in talking and writing, who displays so little worries with being crass, manipulative of quotes being cut and presented out of context, being able to put their hands on such a magnificent and cultural and historically relevant piece of literature, worked on by people clearly far more wise, intelligent, sage and balanced, just makes my head spin in disbelief.

@michiel1162

Жыл бұрын

these dudes are at least 35, have 1 writing credit (Star trek fking 3) and 0 producer credits and somehow they get 1 billion dollars to make a LOTR show. Where tf is the logic

@reek4062

Жыл бұрын

keep whining

@reek4062

Жыл бұрын

@@michiel1162 in the 1990s one splatter director got 300 million to make a LotR trilogy

"How did you decide who got the part?" We went to the paint shop and picked out the colors we wanted, then matched those with head shots.

I have loved Lord of the Rings ever since my father took me to see the Fellowship of the Ring in theaters when I was just a wee little lad. Tolkien has greatly impacted me and inspired me throughout my life. I have an extremely intricate and high fidelity tattoo of Sauron's helm (based on the model used in the films) on my forearm done by one of the finest artists in my city. I also have the The Witch-King of Angmar's helm tattooed further up across my left bicep/ tricep. They are aesthetically brilliant but it's what they represent metaphorically as symbols for the corruption of man that is the reason I chose to permanently embed them onto my body. I have received many compliments and initiated many great conversations, friendships and even relationships because of them. I have always been proud of having those tattoos and never felt any regret or shame over them whatsoever. After seeing Disparu's and many other youtubers coverage of the upcoming Rings of Power, however, it is with equal parts sadness and horror at this nightmare inducing zombified fan fiction resurrected corpse of a production, that I must announce the removal of my tattoos. I'm scheduled for my elective arm amputation in two weeks time. Sure, I could have had them removed via laser but that would not be nearly sufficient enough of a gesture to convey how deeply dishonorable it would be to have the audacity to still be wearing these tattoos *after* this..."Lord of the Rings iNsPiReD" series has aired. It was either that, or commit ritual Seppuku (Hara-Kari), but I don't have an assistant on hand willing to decapitate me after I've plunged the tantō blade into my belly and severed my abdominal aorta. Such is life. At least by going ahead with the elective amputation procedure I won't have to live with the everlasting shame and dishonor of displaying those beautiful, ethereal tattoos representing a bygone era of literature and cinema that was then bastardized by the soulless Amazonian overlords. I'd rather be a one armed man with dignity than a two armed dishonorable sellout, endlessly cucked by a trillion dollar corporation. "In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is King."

It's good that they're taking heat for this. If only Wheel of Time fans had the chance to do the same before "the creatives" butchered that show. Oh well, learn and adapt I guess.

@johnglue1744

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha they don’t learn though which crazy to me. How much money needs to be thrown away before the “creatives” learn?

@D3voidofsoul

Жыл бұрын

I love the WoT books and it cut me to the heart when they so dishonored it with the Amazon series. It was so badly written, bore no resemblance to the world in the books and gutted what made the books great. Just horrible.

It was called Comic Con. We know where the Con is now.

@disparutoo

Жыл бұрын

Interesting how perspective can change a name lmao.

I don’t have too many memories of my grandmother but she was Tolkien to the bone. She put my mother on to the stories and then my mother to me and my sister. But this was back in the early nineties. Glad we got it then. Thanks Gma

I'm actually beginning to think about starting in-the-street protests against this intellectual tyranny. And while I certainly consider myself a fan of Tolkien, I'm definitely not the most ''Die-Hard'' fan of all. But this current saga, at least, seems to have re-kindled my love of his lore, and my appreciation for how precious these things are. I think that says a lot.

@somni2246

Жыл бұрын

No offense, but it's funny how the ones who don't consider themselves die-hard Tolkien fans-- those who have only seen the Jackson trilogy, or only read the Hobbit and/or The LOTR-- comprise the majority of those who have been catastrophising the most about this show, and being swept up into the culture-war rhetoric around the showrunners perverting Tolkien without really understanding *how* exactly it's perverting his works. I'm a die-hard Tolkien fan, and I'm just as disgusted by the bastardization of the themes and core values imbued in his works, yet my response is to simply not watch the show, or give these people any of my time and money. We'll always have Tolkien's writings, and no show or adaptation can or will ever take that away or supplant it; his works will stand the test of time. The way to protest this show is to simply ignore it.

@Jobantus

Жыл бұрын

Does that include commenting on a video that piles on the hate in a mob sense to a show that hasn’t even aired yet?? I think you need to look up the word ignore….😂😂

@rigelb9025

Жыл бұрын

@@Jobantus You beat me to it.

@peppermintpig974

Жыл бұрын

@@Jobantus ...Don't judge it yet. Wait until it comes out. Then wait until the next episode. All will be explained to you. Erm... Wait for next season!

I think I may have figured out what the showrunners "based" their non-Tolkien production on: Bridgerton, the hugely popular Netflix Regency romance series about 19th century British aristocracy. Just compare: Arondir v. Simon Basset; Disa v. Edwina Sharma; Miriel v. Lady Danbury; etc., etc. The "granny gown" costumes in TROP are Empire-waisted and pleated, as are all but the court costumes in Bridgerton. The showrunners assumed that what worked for Netflix must work for HBO. They literally treated Tolkien like romantic comedy.

The mere fact STEPHEN COLBERT is there, trying desperately to give this any kind of legitimacy with all the wrong people, tells me everything I need to know about this. As if I didn't know already. 🙃

@Dan8975

Жыл бұрын

How much was he paid to be there you think lol. He usually comes off as a legitimate LotR nerd but this is not someone passionate about Tolkien.

@ANonymous-mo6xp

Жыл бұрын

Yeah like having that malignant piece of shit there would make me like the show.

@sacrebleuthedeadlypokeofzo8566

Жыл бұрын

@Dan I guess Amazon _is_ the only company that could compete with Pfizer and Moderna for a Colbert shill.

@haha__hihi

Жыл бұрын

@@Dan8975 he must have been paid a fortune.... Maybe more cameos? :D I don't know if it's just me but he didn't look totally excited with the answers but as a host he simply can't afford to show his own opinion on this even though it's presented as such...it was clearly prepared in advance, the answers to the questions, except maybe the ones from audience, which they ignored/didn't respond honestly to

@mr.s2005

Жыл бұрын

He attacked star war fans...Lord of the ring fans are next.

This has been your best video so far. Good work

Brilliantly put - thank-you.

This is going to be the biggest face plant in history. Bigger than when Coca-Cola released "New Coke." We'll be telling our grandchildren about when Amazon tried to make a television series as profound as Tolkien's writing without his actual writing. Think of the absolute ego you'd have to have to say that you could write a story as good as Tolkien by pulling it out of your ass?

I love your content man.

@kathleenhensley5951

Жыл бұрын

He is really worth listening to... valuable insights and understanding.

Good work Disparu, keep it up!

Great work as always. Voice of the people

I just think the panel are playing safe especially the showrunners , Steven Colberti is being nice I think , though I think he knows how crappy this show really is

@HansWurst1569

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree, because its quite well known he’s a big fan!

@D3voidofsoul

Жыл бұрын

He doesn't need the money and that makes it worse. He is supposed to be a true fan of Tolkien however he sold out for some money he doesn't need. Heartbreaking.

@stevekern7235

Жыл бұрын

@@D3voidofsoul Yes, he`s complicit in this disgrace.

@WhimsicalPacifist

Жыл бұрын

@@D3voidofsoul To his mind he hasn't betrayed nor sold anyone out, but rather stuck true to his belief in The Message as a progressive. Rather akin to Saruman.

@stillcantbesilencedevennow

Жыл бұрын

As if it matters. Which is more important to a demagogue; his religion or his favorite book? You think he would eschew "the message" in favor of a novel? A novel made by "mUh rAcisTs"? Come on. You act like you haven't been awake for the last decade...

Polluting Tolkien's Arda indeed, it's even more disturbing when you see how they use the grandson to extol their work as if he was a major contributor to his father's and grandfather's work that his blessing has any true bearing.

This is an underrated channel. Keep it up, Disparu!

Great vid as always :)

Did you listen to Tolkien's scholars before you fired them? Looking at the clips you've released, obviously not.

@disparutoo

Жыл бұрын

Have to be honest I was stunned when they mentioned him when they could have said other names they still work with. Instead they use the one with the most prestige, despite everything that happened.

@Johnsmith-ko9yj

Жыл бұрын

@@disparutoo It really saddens me to see what they've done. Surely they must have know there'd be a backlash? Or did they just think we'd except it? ( consume product ).

@D3voidofsoul

Жыл бұрын

It really tells you all that you have to know that they fired the Tolkien scholars.

@petriew2018

Жыл бұрын

This show languished in production hell for a good three years up until Christopher Tolkien died, then they dumped Shippey on the flimsiest of excuses and hired someone already known to the tolkein community at large to be a complete joke of a 'scholar' already...

@Tar-Elenion

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@@petriew2018 Who did they hire? I thought that had not been revealed.

These show runners disgust me. What they did and have done was malicious.

Hey guys, they had Stephen Colbert. I think it’s time we just relax. This show will be great. Look it’s Stephen Colbert! As soon as they started talking about our society and the parallels they found in the show, I knew this show was doomed to be just one more sermon from The Church of the Message

You said everything perfectly !

Tolkien never said that Chocolate Digestives didn't exist in Middle Earth. SO that allows me to claim that Lembas was really Chocolate Digestives!

@josepnebotrius872

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Or Oreos.

i don't know what's worse: to take somedy's hard work, in this case the work of a lifetime, and twist it in such a way that it barely resembles the original piece or to speak to us like if we were very stupid kids. That is what these evil beings (JD Payne, Patrick Mckay and the cast) are doing.

Nice breakdown, subbed

You sir...have a new follower. Cheers!

I mean, Tolkien never said there WEREN'T hot dogs served on the battlefield, so...

I think what Stephen Colbert was doing flew right over most people's heads. I watched the panel, and knowing how much of a passionate Tolkien fan Colbert is, it was obvious that he was ridiculing the producers by asking strategic and uncomfortable questions which he knew would make them sweat. He is appalled just as much as we are.

@AlphaWeirdfootage

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Colbert appalled by woke nonsense growing like cancer in beloved literature? Colbert gets paid spewing woke nonsense.

@skylx0812

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Then perhaps almost getting struck by lightning while shilling for Cuomo finally caused a few things to dawn on him.

@kopykat6843

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I hope he took Amazon for a bunch of fucking money. The more they lose on this the better.

Good thing they had prepared answers for those questions

Amazon: what does it feel to fight for the books of a man that died 50 years ago? Tolkien loyalists: “Euphoric”

Almost everything about Amazon's effort stinks of fraud and irrelevant virtue signaling.. good job D! Keep going!

When AMAZON SHILLS say "There is a blank canvas in the 2nd Age (no story was ever written) that they are absolutely WRONG: Tolkiens wrote over 500 pages concerning Rings of Power content: The Akallabeth, Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age, The History of Galadriel and Celeborn, A Description of the Island of Númenor, Aldarion and Erendis, The Line of Elros: Kings of Númenor, The Grey Annals, The Tale of Years, The Drowning of Anadûné, . The History of the Akallabêth , The Tale of Years of the Second Age, The Heirs of Elendil, Tal-Elmar. So far, Amazon Demonic Woke has already 15 new characters while completely changing the 10 characteres of JRRT they kept. For example, Galadriel is bisexual, Elrond is a coward who does not know how fight in war, and Elendil hates all of the past, including Valinor and elves! JRRT's LOTR is being viley deconstructed and misrepresented by moronic serial-liar perverted fascists whom if JRRT were alive today would incinerate them all with his brilliant intellect and brilliant prose. SO AMAZON CROCK is lying once again through their rotting teeth!

@tjhooker824

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*applauding* bravo bravo. Well said

@numenorean4101

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What they meant to say was "there is a blank canvas because that's all we've managed to thieve the rights to."

Brilliantly well said.

Colbert definitely seemed insanely worried about that. I dunno.

Anyone who has seen Colbert’s show knows that he doesn’t mess around when it comes to Tolkien. Their choice of host may have backfired, you can tell he realizes this is a bunch of nonsense.

Colbert thinks Celebrimbor created the one ring which makes me think he's not the mega fan he claims to be. Also correct me if I'm wrong but I thought that Harfoots were just one of I believe 3 types of Hobbit not it's own separate race.

Interesting thing about that Tolkien quote they keep using, he never says that the pre existing story should be changed, he only said that in the future others can add onto his never ending lore. He also said it has to keep the same tone and feel as the original story. All Amazon is thinking about with this quote is "omg we basically get permission to adapt it! So let's do whatever the hell we want, because Tolkien wouldn't care!!!!"

loved and shared.

I remember back in the 90’s when even your run-of-the-mill action movie contained more philosophy and complex concepts of human existence, and not just the current day political talking points.

As long as there is allegory: THERE CAN BE NO FANTASY. PERIOD.

Well said sir!

This says it all "My character is the face of necessary redress of balance" Sophia Nomvete, Disa.

There's no way I'll be watching this bastardisation of Tolkien's life work. It's going to be more "Woke" shite.

- I think people would be a lot more optimistic if they leaned heavy into admitting that this is fan fiction. If they really just openly stated that they are pretty much just using Tolkeins Universe as a backdrop to tell their own story. Honest fan fiction isn't always shit, there are few startrek projects that were fanmade that were awesome and This show could be awesome if they weren't so insistent that its also representative of Tolkeins story or even his ideals.

Well done.

Let's wait for the show to come out.

LOTR has always reflected what the West looked like.... The fact that LOTR now looks vasty different is an admission that something in the West has gone terribly wrong

I can’t wait to NOT watch this show!

Anytime I watch a vid from you I’m not convinced that my playback speed isn’t 1.5x 🤣

I’m from wales, and token love the welsh language, I think for such a small country as wales to hundreds of regional accents and over 5 different welsh languages, from the north to the south which incorporates slang and other languages. Token loved the Celtic welsh language, and the welsh are darker skin mostly like our Irish counterparts but it wasn’t a a diverse country, the welsh don’t normally travel far from the homeland, so they don’t get where token is coming from, it’s not racist, it’s being consistent, if they wanted to borrow off token, call it something else, it won’t be successful even if they did a 7-10 run, it’ll eat into their pockets, but we all know the creeps got all the money. Give me a day I’ll come up with a script better than most of todays sad estate of affairs called entertainment

I love your channel and your content you post to keep us updated to this garbage we are vocally and keyboard typing against this. An abomination from Amazon Prime!! Don't ignore this!! We should never ignore this!! We are never going to be silent for the sake of the Lore and for the legacy of J.R.R. TOLKIEN

@SGABlencathra

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Well said.

@clevelandgoodshield463

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@@SGABlencathra Thank you We have to be vocal about this. We have to stand up for Tolkien's legacy. Amazon Prime S*** Show just messed with the wrong fanbase. I'm so glad to be in this Fandom who agree with us that this is NOT Tolkien. And another thing, I'll never ever watch that garbage once it comes out because it is not my concern but what is my concern is ruining Tolkien's Universe and the world we are in is truly troubling, maddening and ironically divided. Amazon Prime is causing division. Not us Tolkien Fans. That should speak volumes.

It's sad to admit that I want this show to fail just because its insulting and as a result everyone to lose their jobs for making something non productive and effortless in Tolkien's name it's awful that it has come to.this point where I hope this ruins peoples careers

@daveeyes

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They're awfully young, aren't they? They have no idea how fast Hollywood can turn on them.

@alapone9996

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I totally agree with you Norse, makes me sick with what these people have done.

@lewiswarburton1224

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Insulting? Who has it insulted?

solid video, as usual, but all the ads mean it's taking 20+ minutes to watch a 15 minute segment. i see the duracell bunny in my sleep now and i blame you!

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