Coming from disc mtb -> road Rim several years ago was initially a shock, but after dialling in brakes with fresh pads, cables etc I’ve never felt the need for more braking power…and have grown to love the simplicity 🤷

@joseluisrodriguezvazquez6082

4 ай бұрын

Couldn't agree more. I'm still running Dura Ace calipers with a good set of alloy rims. I've never needed anything else. Simple, practical, efficient, cheap and hassle free. I'm not a disc brake hater. The way I ride, I just don't need them. In my case they would provide no benefits, but rather a good deal of problems I don't have now.

@Pellagrah

4 ай бұрын

@@joseluisrodriguezvazquez6082 Rim brakes should still be the standard on entry-level road bikes IMO. I understand why you'd want to use disc with carbon wheelsets, but I don't understand the benefit (unless pricing people out of the hobby is considered a benefit).

@Hugh23132

4 ай бұрын

...and the amount of maintenance is a big thing - and expensive. In my experience rim brakes can maintenance free for long stretches, but if they require a tune up - you can do it yourself.

Thanks. You have convinced me that I never want disc brakes.

@MS-bw7yt

4 ай бұрын

As a rim brake fan, I must admit disc's are just objectively better! But as an engineer I can also tell you, most people and even most mechanic's in the cycling industry just don't know what they are doing

@tenspeedtears

4 ай бұрын

Disc brakes perhaps may be objectively better when they are working properly but seems like a lot of messing about to keep them tuned. One greasy rain ride and you’re possibly replacing pads and rotors or at the very least spending quite a lot of time fiddling with them to get them working again. I was almost a disc brake convert until this video…

@NoahStephens

4 ай бұрын

@@tenspeedtearsThey aren’t that sensitive. I rode for three years before I had to replace the rotors

@8rk

4 ай бұрын

@@tenspeedtears I live in one of the most hilly places. I bleed my brakes once per year (literally 10 minute job if you know what you're doing). I haven't needed to swap my pads yet. I ride around 7000 miles / year or 12-14 hours / week. I'd call that very low maintenance. I've also heard my discs squeak only once, which was about 4-5 times less than my rim brake carbon wheels under heavy braking in a summer day.

@leedorney

4 ай бұрын

Yes I'm still on RB's...I luv (not love but luv 🤪) the idea of discs BUT the simplicity of rim brakes is just a no-brainer...it's a crime against humanity that discs have been forced onto a road bike imo

Can't believe you've sold out to Big Paper...

@CamNicholls

5 ай бұрын

hahaha - I thought you knew by now. I'll take anything

@kamilk6807

4 ай бұрын

sold out - i feel like a child again hearing this 'sold out' statement every time a hiphop guy finally monetize his work. Build your own yt channel, bare looks from your wife who would prefer you chasing children than trying to build out your dream...and then let's talk about selling out.

@adamjd7645

4 ай бұрын

@kamilk6807 Um... new to the channel? Clearly you didn't understand the joke. Maybe, instead of being angry at everything, stop & ask the question. When the channel owner jumps on & gets it, maybe being offended on his behalf isn't the best option?

@kamilk6807

4 ай бұрын

@@adamjd7645 angry? i stated my perspective and said 'let's talk then'. Did I attack you? I haven't. I hope you didn't see it this way.

@adamjd7645

4 ай бұрын

@kamilk6807 Fair enough. Sounded angry though. 👍

Rim brakes are so much better. Less money, time, maintenance, tools and knowledge. Why would I ever switch?

I dont mind disc brakes but you should feature Jay in more videos. Seems like a fun guy and knows his stuff

Loving my sram red mechanical 10spd rim brake. Only trouble is, wheels are becoming harder to find.

@DaveCM

4 ай бұрын

On the bright side, they are cheaper when found. I'm looking for new wheels and temporarily got really excited by some greatly reduced in price only to discover they are rim brake.

@leedorney

4 ай бұрын

I have 3 sets of wheels 1 Fulcrum, 1 Alex and some 3T's, the latter I bought @ Xmas, they can be found and manufacturers know a lot of bikes are out there still on rim brakes

@joshuadebelis8478

4 ай бұрын

Just buy winspace wheels, so damn good

@TheRimBrakeGuy

Ай бұрын

winspace and elite wheels are very good, no reason to pay silly figures for same tech like other brands

Another old hack for oily pads is use a propane blowtorch to 'boil out' the oils soaked into the pores of the friction material. You're not trying to get them cherry red and melt them, just hot enough until they start smoking for several seconds.

@phy2sll

4 ай бұрын

Yup this is better since the "coat them in brake cleaner and set them on fire" method won't really get them hot enough to evaporate the contaminating lubricant (since the brake cleaner is evaporating super fast). You don't need a blowtorch either if you happen to have a gas stove then even easier: just fetch some tongs and off you go.

Disc for dirt, rim for road. KISS principle, systems work best if they are kept simple rather than made complicated.

@lunam7249

2 ай бұрын

good rule❤

Thanks! I'll stick with my 2018 rim brake Canyon Aeroad just a bit longer. They suck in rain/wet weather: my hands were on the verge of cramping in a wet century group ride due to having to squeeze the brake lever so hard. But they're light, aero, simple and almost maintenance free.

@TheRimBrakeGuy

Ай бұрын

make no mistake disc brakes cannot take much abuse in the rain either, and you can wear the pads or warp rotors especially if overweight very easily. Just google "cycling in rain disc brake warped, noise" and see the people just suffering because they met some rain.. peak road bikes anyway were around 2018-2019, most aero, lightweight possible and proper rim brakes (with right pads., eg blue pads from swiss stop on alu rims is just the bomb in bad weather conditions).

On the road on two wheels, I don't want my brakes to have so much power to stop the wheels turning that they overpower my tires' grip on the road surface. Plus, I'm fine with adjusting cables, but I don't do hydraulics if I can avoid it. With rim brakes, I can.

@DaveCM

4 ай бұрын

It's called modulation. And decent rim brakes will still lock up your wheels. And you don't have to adjust hydraulic. Once they are set up, they do their thing. Just like in your car or motorcycle.

@durianriders

4 ай бұрын

You dont own a bike with the latest 12spd di2 dura ace do you? Absolute FAFF CITY with the brakes. They STILL didnt get it right. @@DaveCM

@rangersmith4652

4 ай бұрын

@@DaveCM I know how to modulate my brakes, and no, hydraulic brakes are not set and forget. In theory they should be, but if they really were we wouldn't have so many KZread tutorials on how to fiddle with them. My brakes are set up such that it's almost impossible to lock the front wheel with my weight on the bike, and the rear will lock only if I'm hard on the front as well. I can count on one hand the number of times I've had to brake hard enough to accomplish that. It's called riding within one's ability to stop. Do you want your brakes to be able to lock your wheels? I don't. Aircraft have had anti-lock brakes for many decades, and pretty much all new cars and trucks have them. Many motorcycles as well. Why do you think that's the case? In an emergency maneuver, a thing that will manifest itself for us all at some point, the last thing you want is locked wheels. With brakes that cannot lock the wheels, that part of the survival equation is solved. Maximal braking power at full application, and no lockup.

@williwacker2774

4 ай бұрын

@@DaveCM With hydraulic disc brakes you have to replace pads, rotors and do that bloody bleeding and dispose of the oil/DOT filth. With rim brakes it's only pads. As a reward for the additional PITA hydraulic disc brakes cost considerably more. That's one step forward, three backwards.

Great blog Mate. That's why I'm sticking to rim brake bikes. I had this issue with my mtb. Even the mechanic could not line the brake up. Now I have a rear brake that runs permanently 😔

I don’t care about which brakes are better but I would never ride road disc because the bikes look bloody ugly. I also can’t stand the noise as soon as it gets damp, this is nothing to do with set up as it happens on all bikes. Just watch a pro tour race in the wet, I really don’t know how they put up with it. I rode Dura Ace carbon wheels with tubs and rim brakes in the Alps recently and had no trouble keeping up with the quick lads on discs.

Thanks for talking about mental health Cam, it’s such a difficult topic for a lot of men (and women).

Couldn't agree more Cam ..... disc brakes are a total pain in the ass! Yes, they brake a bit better in the wet (personally, never had an issue!). I just want to ride abd race .... i dint want to be a fecking mechanic!!

Rule of thumb, don't eat lunch when Jay is talking or it'll go up the back of your nose and down the wrong hole due to laughter

Like you and thousands of other bikers I HATE DISC brakes i just wont purchase a disc brake frame or wheels thank you for the fun video.

One great thing about the current situation is that you can get great deals on rim calipers! Got a set of Dura-Ace 9200's and they work even more smoothly than the Ultegra 8000's I was using. Wheels may be more of a problem. And those of us who have been around for a while realize how rim brakes kept incrementally improving over the years. Astonishingly better than the Weinman's and old style Campy's back in the early 1970's. When I first used some Ultegra 6600's I almost shot off the front of the bike they had so much more stopping power than I was used to.

Disc brakes are a solution to a problem we never knew we had.

@8rk

5 ай бұрын

Wrong. It's a solution to a problem we introduced (carbon brake tracks)

@treyquattro

5 ай бұрын

if you want carbon rims then you want disc brakes.

@uhohDavinci

5 ай бұрын

@@8rk World tour riders were decending mountains at twice the speed of us mortals on carbon wheels with carbon brake tracks for 15 years with no problem... It was never a problem, its just marketing and guilible people.

@gregmorrison7320

5 ай бұрын

@@uhohDavinci Yeah on closed roads.

@lenolenoleno

5 ай бұрын

@@uhohDavinci On closed roads and pros who know how to descend. Most people on carbon rim brake wheels descend like well... roadies. Dragging the brakes the whole way down. Whoever things pads scraping on resin and carbon is better than pad on a metal rotor is delusional. It also means you don't need "race day" wheels, you can ride your nice carbons wheels year round without issue.

The extra faff and HUGE cost to get into road disc and then maintain is a joke for sure. Not to mention way less aero and dont feel as good when you are going fast. Disc for dirt and rim for road. I ride a bike to increase my life performance and simplify my life vs complicate it. The big brand road industry is crushing cycling life for noobs IMO.

You said you have to get over it because the industry moved on but....The truth is the industry needs customers. If enough demand rim brakes remain an option...That is what it will be or someone else will be eating the rice from their bowls 😉 I never switched & never will. I am about to build a new bike & it will of course be rim brakes.

@dickieblench5001

4 ай бұрын

Giant still offering rim brakes thank god

Great sponsor mate, close to my heart.

Yes discs are painful but the elephant stomping on rim brakes is vastly improved tyre clearance.

@simonr7097

2 ай бұрын

Yes I think the main change introduced by disc brakes is not the braking but the bigger tires. Funnily enough, there's absolutely no reason that manufacturers can't make rim brakes for larger tires. That has always been a thing for commuter bikes, there just wasn't a demand for it on road bikes.

@brunocyclist

2 ай бұрын

You can have wide tyre clearance with rim brakes if you have the right calipers. My new steel retro road bike has clearance for 37mm tyres. But the push for light and aero carbon wheels and aero integrated cables warrant R&D budgets to go into discs and hydraulics. I had a road/gravel bike with hydro discs but I went back to rim brakes for weight and simplicity. I just hope manufacturers will continue to leave options open for people who prefer rim brakes.

@dickieblench5001

17 күн бұрын

28mm on TCR rim brake

FYI - measuring rotors should be done with an outside micrometer as using vernier calipers will won't accurately measure the worn (concaved) part of the disc properly.

@janeblogs324

4 ай бұрын

Good thing you can just rotate them and avoid the lip

@lenolenoleno

4 ай бұрын

@@janeblogs324 A small lip still forms on the outside of most rotors (as pads are often optimised for maximum braking surface, and the edge is often wavy) which would throw your measurement using verniers. An outside micrometer is the correct tool but of course vernier's are better than nothing. When the difference between a new and worn rotor is 0.30mm then a small (say, one half of a tenth of a mm) is significant.

@janeblogs324

4 ай бұрын

@@lenolenoleno you rotate the calipers to avoid the lip. This isn't rocket science man

@lenolenoleno

4 ай бұрын

​@@janeblogs324 Except you can't avoid the lip on the majority of rotors, especially ones not on DH bikes. I'm sorry basic engineering/doing things the right way scared you into thinking a $10 tool for a usefully more accurate measurement is "rocket science".

Disc brake rubbing is the bane of my existence lol. I tried all the tricks in the book and then after a ride I listened to the spokes and they have a very different sound to them. So now I'm in for tuning the damn spokes as well... I bet it still won't fix it and it's actually the fork that is bending out or something.

@TheRimBrakeGuy

Ай бұрын

I know your solution, but dare I say it out loud?

@Ca11mero

Ай бұрын

@@TheRimBrakeGuy Sure go ahead ^^

Maybe it would help to talk to Better Help about your disk brake issues? 🤔😂 Hope that helps! Cheers, Chrissi (I do love disk brakes)

There is a way to straighten them really fast. And it doesn't require special tools. Jay showed the easy way, but I have used a set of adjustable spanners to fix it. jay was right on the point about the Park Rotor Tool.

@CamNicholls

5 ай бұрын

judo chop?

@jamesmckenzie3532

5 ай бұрын

​@@CamNicholls Kinda. The spanner is adjusted to the thickness of the roto and used to gently bring it back to true. BTW, I went through the second scenario last year after my bike was nicked and recovered. Don't waste any time trying to restore the pads if they've been oil soaked (this includes pavement treatments). Saved hours when the rear brake went out by heading to the LBS for replacement pads. One last thing: If your brakes get "squishy" bleed them immediately. Just like you would do for a soft pedal on your car. I had a loose bleed screw and my brakes failed on the front. Wasn't a fun ride, but ten minutes at the shop and all was well.

sometimes you can look straight down through the discbrake and see the allignment. If you happen to wear white shoes, which I always do, you don't need to hold a piece of paper.

I like the fact i can put my colnago master x light w rim brakes in the trunk of my car or the back seat. It is so easy travel with.

More of the shop dog! 😂

Rim for me!. Just look how many crashes are happening in the pro peloton!. Discs are fantastic for mtb as they are designed to be used with suspension fact!. Will be good for road bikes when abs is developed at the moment can lock up on bad bumpy roads to easily especially if they get to hot. In the future they will no doubt be brilliant but they are a pain in comparison to a good direct mount rim brake system sod all maintenance and definitely better for air travel etc.

After 8 years on rim brakes. Did you ever wear out a pair of wheels? I've been riding mine for 6 years and still haven't worn out the brake surface out of my carbon wheels.

@rezilla1

4 ай бұрын

in my case, every 18 months or so. This is with regularly digging crap out of the pads etc. It depends how much it rains where you are i think. Discs were a godsend for me.

I am actually moving away from rim. it's getting harder to find solid rim brake wheels without going custom meanwhile I see banging deals for DT Swiss hoops in the UK with 240 and 350 hubs for factory disc

replace the pads every 6 months!?!?! I ride 12k miles a year, in 4 years, I've replaced pads twice.(running stock Shimano pads that came in my GRX calipers/SRAM pads in my Force AXS bike)

@CamNicholls

5 ай бұрын

I'd say it's probably dependant on terrain and braking behaviour. QLD in very lumpy with a lot of rain so perhaps people are chewing into them more. Jay is also secretly in bed with the disc brake mainstream and wants to sell more pads. haha.

@KeithHeinrich

5 ай бұрын

@@CamNicholls Robbie said if you are using the brakes you are doing it wrong.

@MrCyclist

2 ай бұрын

I have 36.000 km on my rim brakes and is good for another12 000 km. I do 12 000 km a year

If there is such a big issue with disc brakes, just go back to rim brake. I'm sure the older tech and limited tyre width of 25mm will be much better than whats available today. Also just replace contaminated pads, if it is really bad you may even have to replace the rotor.

@Gianniz27

4 ай бұрын

28 easily on rim.

@TheRimBrakeGuy

Ай бұрын

28mm easy on rim, and you can still get Shimano 12sp on rim just FYI... (e.g. R8150 12s Di2)

I'm with ya on number 3!

Shimano sell that paper but its specifically designed to see bent rotors, I use the dura ace which is 50 percent lighter

excellent background music 👏

Do all my own maintenance and bike building, have gone back to rim brakes. They just do as they say on the tin, with no fuss. For over 100 years the pros never had a problem stopping with rim brakes and I don't go as fast as them. And for the haters, I was running SRAM RED disc brakes and they still annoyed the shit out of me. Just my 2 cents.

I hate that too. My Sram Centerline XR rotor had bent just after riding 400 kms :(

To be honest Ive never really had an issue with disks, I use swiss stop. That is on my sl5 crit bike. It gives me alot more confidence braking later then rim. My fondo bike, wilier gtr has rim brakes and its perfect. My tri bike, a shiv is rim and I also love that. If ones main concern is disk or rim your having a very good day 😊. Ride your bike, have fun dont stress about things that have minimal effect on your life 😊

This is why my new Winspace will be the rim brake version

Yeah, disc brakes suck until you really need to stop. Rim is fine for my road bike but it’s a whole different story on my mountain and gravel bikes.

Whenever you’ve had a shitty day just go visit Jay Taylor , guaranteed to make you smile

I have a disc brake Giant TCR, just bought back a Colnago c60 with rim brakes and Dura Ace 9100. Nobody really needs disc brakes. The only reason why people are not buying rim brakes is because rim brake equipped bikes are offered with shitty group-sets nowadays. That's it.

Fun video and reason I have four road bikes with rim brakes!

@CamNicholls

5 ай бұрын

Yes, well played!

No issues with the modern hydraulic disc brakes. I have bent the disc back the same way the mechanic did before as well. I hated the old cable actuated disc brakes that only clamped from one side.

@lunam7249

2 ай бұрын

pray you dont have to adjust them!!

Had my dentist use his dental sand blaster on my pads and they work great.

yes mine also make noise. so headache to me visit the cycling shop almost twice a week.

Adjustable wrench is the perfect tool for straightening disc brakes.

Hyrdraulic disc brakes, internal cabling, bike fit - all a conspiracy to make the local bike shop owner a multi-millionaire 🤑

80% Isopropyl alcohol on the rotors and 10 grit paper on the pads. Metallic compound pads stay stickier than resins and organics from my experience. I ride mtb and I am always up on maintenance with the brakes. Going back to rim brakes would be absurd for me. I will put up w a rub here and there in exchange for the performance benes 8 days a week.

@tomweis1194

3 ай бұрын

10 grit? Is that a typo?

@petedog9581

3 ай бұрын

It is on pads. What difference does the grit make? It is a light sanding to get grime off the pads.

Rim brakes are the future!

I guess Mechanical 105 groupset with mechanical discbrakes is the clear solution instead of hydraulic groupset & save some money 💰

@TheRimBrakeGuy

Ай бұрын

R7000 rim is your best solution

I’m surprised there hasn’t been much development for disc brakes

Hi Cam, Mondiale Bikes (from england) to name just one, continue with rim brakes. Indeed, ive sold more rim brake bikes than discs. Keep looking Cam, they are out there :D

I genuinely don't understand how so many people get the bent rotor issue, especially on the newer 12 speed groupsets. I had it on 11 speed SRAM before and could never get rid of it but from what I recall they fixed it with monoblock calipers too. I can only speak for current Shimano but I, no matter what I do (and I live in California where every ride I do is 1000 feet to 10 mile ratio because it's so hilly around here) don't have the bent rotor isssue. Sure after braking for a long time down a hill, I do get a little ting sound but it literally goes away after 3 seconds or less. Never had a rotor bend and made that sound for more than 3 seconds after a descend. Please tell me I'm not the only one?

@twifosp1

5 ай бұрын

You aren’t and it takes seconds to fix. It’s just content at this point. I have a rim brake bike that I still enjoy riding but I won’t ride it in group rides to avoid other rim brake weirdos trying to make it their identity

@seamusmclaughlin7067

5 ай бұрын

Rim brake weirdos 😮

@mrvwbug4423

5 ай бұрын

Shimano disc brakes have servo-wave actuation, they pull further away from the rotor when you release the lever. It's a godsend on MTB brakes if you do a lot of DH and/or enduro riding, since you're generally getting your rotors hot enough to cook on when going down some downhills.

@mipko

4 ай бұрын

I do have brand new Ultegra Di2 and I had bend rotor within first 500km... Luckily It is not a real issue though as the gap between pad and rotor is wide enough to accommodate a bit of a bend.

@DaveCM

4 ай бұрын

I don't either. I've had a road bike with the original 11 speed Red Etap for years now. I have had disc brakes on my gravel bikes for years now, and have three bikes with disc brakes. I've never had the amount of issues that people make it out to be. There was a bit if of a learning curve, but it had been a non-issue.

One advantage of disc brakes,you don't wear out your expensive carbon wheels, that's why i prefer them.

@jkk916

3 ай бұрын

Most people wouldn't wear out rim in a lifetime.

come true my SAINT 203mm rotors then come back to me little bro, disc brakes are horrible to get right and horrible to maintain but are a must on MTBs. on the otherhand my vintage and road bike all run rim brakes, I find so much peace of mind with my road bike and its caliper brakes

And the paper trick is the oldest trick in the book, but is only a short term solution to a bent rotor

I'm with you disc brakes I loth them with a passion I can understand for carbon rims and waring them out but with alloy wheels no point.

@888julianman

4 ай бұрын

Had carbon rims and rim brakes for years and years with loads of miles done . Never got anywhere remotely near to wearing through a braking surface, and it feels like the scale of this rim brake drawback’ is blown out of proportion .

@darrengarvie8832

4 ай бұрын

@@888julianman depends on where you live I'm in Ireland so it's pretty wet most of the time lol

Mate…. The tangled monster!! It only takes a few seconds in the pocket untangled and boom! Gets tangled 😂

At 3:56 do Sam just recommended therapy for having disc brakes ? 😂

@7:14 Prime Australian health and safety there!

Jay's a legend (you too Cam)

Pog was forced onto disc. No way he would ride heavy disc if he had real choice.

Never had problems with disc brakes UNTIL i chopped half a finger nail from trying to center the pads... and turning the wheel while my poor finger was in the way 😅

I was recently on a club ride and it rained some during it. So, lots of brakes were screaming when when we came to a stop. And older gentleman just went into a rage about every time we'd stop. He was about the only one on rim brakes. It is a bit annoying, but his level of anger was just comical.

Jay is the type of guy every cyclist wants. Excellent gentleman.

One major upside to discs, it doesn't prematurely wear out your expensive carbon rims. I couldn't imagine using an expensive set of carbon rims on a rim brake bike as an amateur rider, knowing full well the rim brakes are going to wear through that braking track within a couple years and now you get to replace them. Especially on our hilly terrain in Colorado, where I would also be worried about delamination on steep descents.

I don’t get why we have to move on it’s not like rim brakes are going to fall to bits 😂 and you can still get pads.. yeah new frames may not offer rim brake versions but who cares 😅 I like rim brakes on the road and disc for gravel off road 😊 that’s how I use them.. Pete

for me the biggest deal breaker is the weight balance. just turns strange compared to rim brake bikes- its not neutral anymore. plus they add ~200g rolling weight per wheel compared to their rim brake counterparts?

@DaveCM

4 ай бұрын

What disc brake bikes have you ridden. I don't feel there is an imbalance.

@thepandaman

4 ай бұрын

But on the flip side, I wouldn't have forked out for carbon rims if I still had rim brakes, but I've got them on the new disc brake bike and my goodness they feel nice to me.

@LucasHuang-tg7tr

4 ай бұрын

@@DaveCMsupersix himod with ultegra, 2023 version

And you need to do this every 3 months when you've gone through a set of pads and rotors and need new ones that start warping and squeaking 😅

@mrvwbug4423

5 ай бұрын

How on earth does a road bike eat rotors and pads that fast? I have an enduro MTB with gigantic 203mm rotors and 4 piston brakes on both ends and I usually only need to replace rear pads about every 6 months, front pads once a year and I can usually get 18months to 2 years out of a set of rotors. And I ride a fair bit of park which is hard on brakes.

I'm surprised there isn't a truing type stand for disc rotors.

@mrvwbug4423

5 ай бұрын

No need, they aren't that expensive, once they've gotten a little too warped or bent they're probably worn out anyway. I can get 203mm Shimano ice techs for under $40USD a rotor all day every day, and I usually only need to replace rotors maybe once every 2 years.

@NickMurphy

4 ай бұрын

There is an attachment for park tool wheel truing stands that shows rotor runout/warp. Been around for ten years or so

You know what I hate about rim brakes? When I've spent months training for a 180km race and I get a stone jammed in my caliper which is gnawing it's way through my tire and I have to stop twice to remove the wheel to remove the stone then spend the last 60kms solo to the finish because the group is long gone!

@matkrek

5 ай бұрын

Terrible luck

@simonwarmer8777

4 ай бұрын

You’re the special one

@seanmccuen6970

4 ай бұрын

lol, ok.

@dickieblench5001

4 ай бұрын

More Chance of being struck by lightning but ok

Next new bike.... Custom rim brake 😊

People act like rim brakes never rub.

@steveco1800

4 ай бұрын

Easy fix if they do

@kpizzle1985

4 ай бұрын

@@steveco1800yes, about as easy as disc brakes, but that wasn't the point of the statement.

@steveco1800

4 ай бұрын

@@kpizzle1985 I was agreeing it is possible they rub, but was pointing out it’s less trouble to fix. It is less frequent if you have them setup well and wheels trued properly, and if something happens out on the ride usually just a few turns of the barrel adjuster (and easy to fix properly when home). Discs can start rubbing after heat buildup warping the rotor out of true, or one of the pistons becomes less active. My 2015 SRAM Rival brakes had this issue quite often and you’re not easily fixing a sticky piston on the road. GRX has been much better, but still needs careful adjustment occasionally. The pad clearance on road discs is less than MTB, and many times less than rim brakes, so they’re more sensitive to issues. I have had much less trouble with MTB discs, even my first in 2007 (Formula Oro K24).

still better than truing the wheels to get rid of rim brake rub. I use my hand to align the rotor, with a clean rag or paper in between to not get grease on the rotor.

This looks like such a huge pain. Still on rim brakes

The demonstrated practice of burning brake cleaner is extremely dangerous. If you set brake cleaner on fire it give off fumes of phosgene gas, one breath of this can kill you instantly. Maybe the Soudal brake cleaner used is non chlorinated and would not give off phosgene gas but I can not find what the active ingredient is of this product. Please don't ever do this it could kill you.

Just use a heat gun and heat the pads till they smell. Works every time

Disc brakes make it a pain to switch wheels.

This mechanic is so funny! He needs his own standup.

I use the 2 dollar cheap rotar plates, if it's bent, just change a new one. The expensive big brand rotar is for the rich guys.

If only the development of braking surface on Carbon rims were continued, there would be no need for disc brakes. Disc brakes are heavier, with frames built unsymmetrical to compensate to the unsymmetrical braking, wheelsets with heavier hubs which is why you need through axel skewers, which are not better than the ever reliable Campagnolo quick release. Hopefully some Company will continue to further develop rim brakes. For now I'll stick to my rim brake bikes.

@SurvivalistMedia

2 ай бұрын

How does asymmetrical brakes make frames compensate differently from asymmetrical transmissions? If the unsymmetrical nature of parts effects the frame build what makes brakes different from drivetrain?

@petessake5310

2 ай бұрын

@@SurvivalistMedia your adding another area that needs restructuring. Drivetrains are already integral to the design. Brakes is a matter of choice as to which is better. The intent is to make bikes lighter, clean and more aerodynamic.

good tip. its not hard to fix bent rotor !

yup, gimme some awesome direct-mount rim brakes all fkn' day long. that's how much I generally loathe setting up/maintaining disc brakes. 'bleeding', REALLY??

I honestly will never own a disk bike. Thats stupid noise and the weight. And what kind of muppet rides in the rain. Look at the forecast and hit the indoor trainer.

Disc Brakes are great in Winter. everybody can hear you braking ^^ 🤣🤣

Ah…missed a bit!! How about,when brake pads wear then pistons don’t fully retract. Then when you fit new pads,they rub-due to piston STILL not wanting to retract fully😬

they also look much cleaner than disc

Totally dont want disc brakes anymore. Lulu is mega cute.

I use rim brakes,and had a vasectomy at 30.🤷‍♂️

Haha, awesome.

Somehow, sourcing brakes for your bike from the Smithsonian sounds like a felony!! Rim scrubbers, Pahhh!!! Of course, a rim grind and a touch of tar...

I'll stickto rim brakes thanks nothing against disc brakes just can't afford a disc brakes bike

Hi Cam, is NeoPro Cycling who sell clothing a legitimate business in Queensland.

@CamNicholls

4 ай бұрын

Legit

@skipt5905

4 ай бұрын

@@CamNichollsthanks

Forget the tech talk. Let’s see more of Lulu…

The industry doesn’t want you to know a little known secret that this brakes don’t make you faster at all if anything it makes you slower.

I should be spending shit tonnes of money on a bike for the brakes to rub and i shouldnt be having to align them, plus the are loud asf... I want rim brakes back :(

@DaveCM

4 ай бұрын

Clean your rotors if they are loud. Or use a difference compound pad.

I’ve always loved disc brakes, have never understood the hysteria.