Riding The Falkirk Wheel | ROTATING Boat Lift In Scotland!

In this adventure I continue my tour around Scotland with a visit to the Falkirk Wheel! This impressive rotating boat lift opened in 2002 and connects the Forth and Clyde Canal with the Union Canal. Along with sharing various different facts about the wheel, I also share footage of it in operation as it rotates. I also enjoy a 60 minute tour of the canal including a ride on the Falkirk Wheel itself!
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  • @DJSOfficialUK
    @DJSOfficialUK Жыл бұрын

    Have seen this beautiful and amazing structure on tv shows while growing up, brilliant tourist attraction that I hope to one day in future visit & experience. Thanks for recording, uploading and sharing your experience & look forward to in future see more videos like this. 😀👍

  • @GarryWilliams555
    @GarryWilliams5553 жыл бұрын

    I miss Scotland so much. Especially exploring the loch and mountain trails in the depths of the highlands.

  • @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    3 жыл бұрын

    Such a beautiful country

  • @clairehislop5873
    @clairehislop587313 күн бұрын

    One of my favourite landmarks, so simple yet so amazing at the same time 😃

  • @otisbailey5455
    @otisbailey54552 жыл бұрын

    Thanks your video was superior to the one on tv. Very clear and precise demonstration.

  • @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @theweakestlink2278
    @theweakestlink22783 жыл бұрын

    So it's like an elevated canal. That's really cool! I love the design of it.

  • @albee_fuqtifanno8595

    @albee_fuqtifanno8595

    3 жыл бұрын

    It was designed by a Mr Kettle. Its to resemble the bones and fins of a whale.

  • @rorycraig
    @rorycraig2 жыл бұрын

    lmao @ the pigeon getting a lift at 4:46.

  • @ThelemicMagick
    @ThelemicMagick3 жыл бұрын

    It's surprisingly energy efficient as well. The Falkirk Wheel uses only 1,5 kWh per half a turn. That's not much, considering the enormous weight it's rotating. My girlfriend and I (we're Dutchies) rented a yacht three years ago and travelled from Fort William to Edinburgh and back, crossing some stunning lochs. Ofcourse, we *had* to visit the Falkirk Wheel as well. Especially going down the wheel is a surreal experience.

  • @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    3 жыл бұрын

    It sure is awesome to see!

  • @philquinn2432
    @philquinn24323 жыл бұрын

    Only uses the same power as a toaster 😂 it only needs a little push at the top to carry it down

  • @albee_fuqtifanno8595

    @albee_fuqtifanno8595

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or 2 kettles. Same name as the guy who designed it. A Mr Kettle.

  • @batchmotorsport
    @batchmotorsport2 жыл бұрын

    I had never seen this thing until I randomly stumbled across it on google earth. So I had to find a video and yours it is.

  • @HM78678
    @HM78678 Жыл бұрын

    Nice one mate, thanks for the tour

  • @ssue4q
    @ssue4q3 жыл бұрын

    Definitely the most cool lock in the world! I'd never even knew there was such a thing. Till I lived in South Carolina USA and we went out on my husband's boat and we were on the lake and gone inside this massive cement structure that totally closed around us and lowered us down to the river.. it was just so cool I just never had experienced anything like that fun! Thank you so much for doing this. what an awesome structure! Love both of your channels!💗

  • @stewartjdrummond

    @stewartjdrummond

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's canals, lochs are totally different and just the Gaelic Scottish & Irish term for lakes.

  • @ssue4q

    @ssue4q

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@stewartjdrummond are we talking about the same thing? I'm talking about the structure not the water!

  • @stewartjdrummond

    @stewartjdrummond

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ssue4q Wires crossed, I now see you meant locks as in canal transfers which the wheel replaced. Sorry.

  • @ssue4q

    @ssue4q

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@stewartjdrummond 😆 that's 👌 different terminology for different parts of the world! Yeah in the u.s. we call them locks! lol

  • @marjim8465
    @marjim84653 жыл бұрын

    How interesting!

  • @InvalidUserProfile
    @InvalidUserProfile3 жыл бұрын

    That is so damn cool! It never ceases to amaze me the different things you find and show us on both your channels. Thank you.

  • @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @attractionshubno1
    @attractionshubno13 жыл бұрын

    Another great AdventureShawn Vlog Shawn mate 👍🏻

  • @chrisbaete5842
    @chrisbaete58423 жыл бұрын

    We visited here about 5 years ago as I’d seen it on one of the kids tv shows and we were not disappointed. The trip was great fun and very informative. Personally I love the design both technically but also visually and the simplicity behind such an incredible piece of practical engineering is awesome. If you are visiting Scotland I’d highly recommend a visit. The wheel is a 10-15 minute walk to the station

  • @Csdrumworks18
    @Csdrumworks183 жыл бұрын

    Great video Shawn, although Falkirk is pronounced 'fall-kirk'. Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @uksunshinekid992
    @uksunshinekid9923 жыл бұрын

    Completely agree. It’s a great piece of engineering and it’s fab just to watch it in operation. We’ve not done the boat trip Just watched it while down at the park area nearby

  • @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    3 жыл бұрын

    It sure is!

  • @grudgesgalore8666
    @grudgesgalore86663 жыл бұрын

    never heard of that thing until now! i thought that was going to lift that boat up onto a roadway? i was like WHAT THE HELL?? i didn't realize there was a waterway up there on top! what a very unique and interesting piece of machinery! that's like ultra cool! once again ADVENTURE SHAWN taking me places i've never been b4! outstanding!! thank you so much!!

  • @kkrispy2009P

    @kkrispy2009P

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very great floating wheel which can carry water

  • @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for watching!

  • @traceybeerling4776
    @traceybeerling47763 жыл бұрын

    Hi shawn really enjoyed this what a great idea amazing. Thankyou for sharing with us as always love Tracey xxxxxx

  • @shoneyman
    @shoneyman3 жыл бұрын

    Only just discovered this channel after linking from your Inverness Fair video. I actually stay only just over 1 mile from the wheel, and you can see my village at several points in the video! I do a lot of running and cycling, the path you're standing on at the end is where I do my running hill-rep training, and I cycle the various paths around the canal network on an almost daily basis. Would have been really funny if I'd bumped into you, think I'd have had a fan-boy moment :-) Glad you enjoyed your trip up to our wee part of the world, the Wheel really is an amazing feat of engineering (particularly the fact it only takes 8 kettles worth of power to rotate, thanks to Archimedes principle), looking forward to seeing the NC500 series of videos

  • @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing!

  • @pauladiehl-griffin5900
    @pauladiehl-griffin59003 жыл бұрын

    That’s the coolest thing..Awesome indeed!!

  • @kkrispy2009P
    @kkrispy2009P3 жыл бұрын

    Shawn is back . Yay just watched him in Germany. Now in Scotland lol hehe . Love Scotland thanks 4 sharing Mr themepark

  • @jesserico
    @jesserico3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for a new addition to the bucket list! 🍻

  • @urbexscotland6313
    @urbexscotland63133 жыл бұрын

    Awww man you were only 5mins from me, I could have treated you to a bottle of bucky 🤣

  • @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @julieatherton4530
    @julieatherton45302 жыл бұрын

    Just seen your Kelpie video. We saw the Falkirk wheel yesterday too. We live about 2 miles from the other boat lift which is Anderton near Northwich in Cheshire. Maybe you should visit that one too Shawn 😁. Amazing pieces of engineering.

  • @edwardjoynes7961
    @edwardjoynes79613 жыл бұрын

    Never been on one like this but it certainly looks interesting!

  • @aishlingpaigehanlon1571

    @aishlingpaigehanlon1571

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh it's beautiful❤️😊. I live so close to it so seen it loads. It's the place I take my son also if I need some air or exercise. When I was in lock down this is where I done my 1 exercise a day.

  • @georgefloyd9035

    @georgefloyd9035

    3 жыл бұрын

    Obviously you haven’t , cause it’s only one in world

  • @0KeepRockin0

    @0KeepRockin0

    3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting Fact. The boat lift carries 600 tones up 27 meters and uses the same amount of energy as is used to boil a kettle.

  • @michellehiggs60
    @michellehiggs603 жыл бұрын

    Wow we have never seen anything like that before. Great video. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @CLC-1000
    @CLC-10003 жыл бұрын

    Interesting structure Shawn. Beautiful scenery too. Great vlog.

  • @brendabryant6347
    @brendabryant63473 жыл бұрын

    Awesome

  • @ebinsuncle
    @ebinsuncle3 жыл бұрын

    Fascinating piece of engineering, so impressive!

  • @TransCanadaPhil
    @TransCanadaPhil3 жыл бұрын

    I went on that when I visited Scotland in 2018 😀

  • @C64Queeg500
    @C64Queeg5003 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic stuff Shawn. A hell of a piece of engineering, it makes my home made sock warmer look ordinary......

  • @breakawayfromme
    @breakawayfromme3 жыл бұрын

    I remember seeing this featured on CBBC as a kid, always thought it was interesting, thanks for sharing

  • @albee_fuqtifanno8595
    @albee_fuqtifanno85953 жыл бұрын

    Hey bud, great video. Shame you were at the wheel on my day off.I love chatting to vloggers. I normally escort narrowboats up the wheel and up the 2 massive electric sluices lock gates you go in to get onto the union canal. The time you were at TFW there had been a breach on a part of the union canal. First time its breached that part in 200 years. It meant no boats could travel from Edinburgh to TFW via the union canal. Most holiday hire boats want to go up TFW an onto Edinburgh which take you right into the heart of the city. Some take in the festival or the tattoo etc. Covid knocked that part on the head but it was still super busy as families wanted to get away from it all, keep safe and holiday at home so hiring a narrowboat was the perfect idea. The breach was a real bummer it really was, few did keep their holidays and took the boats down the 13 lock gates to the kelpies or went west towards Glasgow. Hopefully the breach will be fixed for next season and with the vaccine and plenty of programmes on tv like Celebs go barging it really helps. Thanks again.

  • @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing, I had a fantastic visit!

  • @scottsdaytrips
    @scottsdaytrips3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Shawn, my Mum and I been on the Falkirk Wheel once, that was a few years ago. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @7389ma
    @7389ma3 жыл бұрын

    That is impressive

  • @bubblehead78
    @bubblehead783 жыл бұрын

    Bird @4:48 is like "WTF?"

  • @Joe19590
    @Joe195903 жыл бұрын

    The other boat lift in the UK is the Anderton boat lift in Northwich, Cheshire. I happen to live 10 minutes away from it!

  • @albee_fuqtifanno8595

    @albee_fuqtifanno8595

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is the only rotating boat lift. End of the day it always rotates and ends on an even number. Goes one way then the other.

  • @shrimpercj
    @shrimpercj3 жыл бұрын

    I was expecting Shawn to shout 'a bit of HELIX HELIX HELIX' as it was going round...... very disappointed he didn't, come on Shawn!!!

  • @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wrong channel for that one!

  • @decxor4406
    @decxor44063 жыл бұрын

    i love like ten minutes from there love from falkirk ❤️

  • @johnh1001

    @johnh1001

    3 жыл бұрын

    Where in Scotland is the county of Falkirk ?

  • @decxor4406

    @decxor4406

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@johnh1001 directly in between glasgow and edinburgh

  • @sandyhagen9155
    @sandyhagen91553 жыл бұрын

    Shawn, I live a couple of miles along the canal from the Wheel, and my In-Laws live across the canal from it. Been on it many times, and watched it being constructed.

  • @garymcmahon3981
    @garymcmahon39813 жыл бұрын

    great vlog Shawn, but my wife really really found the music annoying lol

  • @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your feedback

  • @hayleyc7800
    @hayleyc78003 жыл бұрын

    Amazing! 😲

  • @oddsandwindsocks5905
    @oddsandwindsocks59053 жыл бұрын

    Amazing structure shawn, your gonna love Ben nevis, we done it 25 years ago, took us 8 hours up and down, but well worth going up. There is also a cable cars i remember. There was one guy who carried his bike up and rode down,, what a show of lol.

  • @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @garyjeffrey5026
    @garyjeffrey50263 жыл бұрын

    Shawn Falkirk is pronounced ''Fall kirk'' lol :)

  • @krusty19801

    @krusty19801

    3 жыл бұрын

    Need to invite him I’ll the pub for some Scots lessons haha.

  • @nigel5823

    @nigel5823

    3 жыл бұрын

    sorry your wrong shawn as got it right this time (The Falkirk Wheel) do your history better not pronounced as fallkirk

  • @garyjeffrey5026

    @garyjeffrey5026

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nigel5823 Nigel what on earth are you talking about? I'm referring to pronunciation?

  • @ConnorDoesRugby

    @ConnorDoesRugby

    3 жыл бұрын

    nigel I actually don’t know what you’re trying to say here

  • @ladykaycey

    @ladykaycey

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh, thank you so much for pointing that out, it was really getting to me lol 😆 😅

  • @aishlingpaigehanlon1571
    @aishlingpaigehanlon15713 жыл бұрын

    Yayy shawn!!!!! u went to the wheel I live near it. Its great for walks and also for the park for my little boy lol. Me, my husband and son are a regulars to the wheel, live so close to it lol. Damn I wish I was there today to say hello to u!!!! (from a distance of course)

  • @yvonnejohnston9429
    @yvonnejohnston94293 жыл бұрын

    Great video and it’s pronounced Fall Kirk 🙂. Live 5 minutes away from it, and been up many times.

  • @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @michaeldicker4839
    @michaeldicker48393 жыл бұрын

    Two boats in one gondola going up and one boat in the top gondola coming down. No problem with balance as the two boats will displace more water from their gondola making just about the same weight as the other one.

  • @DanUnplanned
    @DanUnplanned3 жыл бұрын

    Ah Shawn we were going to go there but visited the kelpies instead! It’s in my video on my channel that looks awesome tho! Wish I went now

  • @miami7107
    @miami7107Ай бұрын

    Nice knowledge 👌

  • @flyingscotsman7914
    @flyingscotsman79143 жыл бұрын

    I have been on a boat ride in York on Monday and you can be a good tour guide on it.

  • @manutdlists2442
    @manutdlists24423 жыл бұрын

    I've only been once, back in 2011 with my gran and grandad:)

  • @dillonlewallen7086

    @dillonlewallen7086

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cool, did u like it?

  • @manutdlists2442

    @manutdlists2442

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dillonlewallen7086 I enjoyed it however I was only 9 at the time so I probably would enjoy it more of I went now

  • @andrewdavidloch360
    @andrewdavidloch3602 жыл бұрын

    it uses the equivalent of five electric kettles to boil of 1 litre of water to move one circle. It's that balanced.

  • @24whitejon
    @24whitejon3 жыл бұрын

    Loving how you pronounce things!

  • @jackwhitlock1
    @jackwhitlock13 жыл бұрын

    Very good vlog or should I say veeeeeeeelog 🤣

  • @sharkdrago8452
    @sharkdrago84523 жыл бұрын

    Less than an hour away from me

  • @expeditioned2821
    @expeditioned28213 жыл бұрын

    Certaintly a weird design but a good experience!

  • @JoriDiculous
    @JoriDiculous3 жыл бұрын

    funny (not really). Was about to watch your Nevis climb video and then saw i had missed two more videos. This one and the Kelpies. The problem with to many channel subscriptions :D

  • @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching them!

  • @jamesluc4138
    @jamesluc41382 жыл бұрын

    Is that the actual music that plays when it is moving?

  • @andrewdavidloch360
    @andrewdavidloch3602 жыл бұрын

    Take The Jaggie Thistle ... a barge that you can do it by yourself. You are Captain.

  • @paulinemercer538
    @paulinemercer53811 ай бұрын

    👍👍👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @LadyDragonsblood
    @LadyDragonsblood3 жыл бұрын

    Is it just a tourist thing.... or do commercial and private boats use it as well.... and if so, is there a fee for that kind of use. It was absolutely fascinating. Thanks for sharing this with us!

  • @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    3 жыл бұрын

    Private boats also use it!

  • @albee_fuqtifanno8595

    @albee_fuqtifanno8595

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mostly used for holiday hires which are based at the wheel. Private boats pay a fixed mooring fee and can use the wheel as many times as they want during the season. Some days we have 19 boat movements. Some coming from the east in Edinburgh and some from Glasgow. There is 2 trip boats which do the usual thing shaun was on but its been really busy with holiday hires now after such programmes Celebs go barging etc. I escorted 2 boats up the wheel last season. Anne Diamond and Jenny bond on 1. The other Pete waterman and Bill Oddy. There was cameras everywhere but when it was shown on tv only a small part covered the wheel. All you could see was my white safety helmet lol.

  • @fraser_mr2009
    @fraser_mr20093 жыл бұрын

    interesting

  • @shoneyman
    @shoneyman3 жыл бұрын

    And just to give a bit of closure to the pronunciation argument below (I was born in Falkirk Infirmary, and have stayed here the entire 44 years of my life), the first syllable is definitely pronounced 'fall', as in to 'fall' off a cliff. But as also mentioned, if you really wanted to sound local, you'd pronounce it 'faw', like 'fall' but without the 'll'. But jeez, you can't really be blamed for that, you're just pronouncing it as you read it, and nobody can be expected to accurately pronounce every single place name they visit, so I wouldn't worry about it :-)

  • @VibonoMirage
    @VibonoMirage3 жыл бұрын

    So basically it's a larger version of the rapid ride at Bobbijann land?

  • @aishlingpaigehanlon1571

    @aishlingpaigehanlon1571

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's a canal. It goes from Falkirk all the way to Edinburgh. Also goes to Glasgow to 😊

  • @gaff-life1
    @gaff-life13 жыл бұрын

    Here shawn is it scary high when ur up there?

  • @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don’t find heights scary but I imagine some people wouldn’t like it!

  • @Mitjitsu
    @Mitjitsu2 жыл бұрын

    The most amazing thing about it is that it's entirely mechanical. If it was a barge using electrical pumps. It would be incredibly energy intensive.

  • @crimsonwizard2560
    @crimsonwizard25603 жыл бұрын

    You could argue it is actually in Camelon.

  • @johnh1001
    @johnh10013 жыл бұрын

    You need to build a Falkirk wheel in the Suez canal then you won't have a pile up of ships .

  • @chrisbagshaw6378
    @chrisbagshaw63783 жыл бұрын

    Is there a turn table at the end of the tunnel

  • @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    3 жыл бұрын

    The boat has space to turn around

  • @craig9711
    @craig97113 жыл бұрын

    The way he says Falkirk hurts me

  • @its_sweet16_therandom46
    @its_sweet16_therandom463 жыл бұрын

    Whoho, more tourism

  • @naiboz
    @naiboz3 жыл бұрын

    Fall Kirk 😉 👍🏻

  • @albee_fuqtifanno8595

    @albee_fuqtifanno8595

    3 жыл бұрын

    Faw kirk lol

  • @naiboz

    @naiboz

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@albee_fuqtifanno8595 😂 I was trying to give the lad half a chance 😁

  • @gamingchannelYoutube57
    @gamingchannelYoutube573 жыл бұрын

    Go to New Lanark

  • @drmarbleyacht3726
    @drmarbleyacht37263 жыл бұрын

    You've got the voice of a TV narrator. I actually enjoyed learning about this. What's your favorite place? Or your favorite video of yours?

  • @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much! I loved exploring NYC!

  • @joeypenn5321
    @joeypenn53213 жыл бұрын

    I live in falkirk

  • @joeypenn5321

    @joeypenn5321

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for hearting my Comment

  • @andrewjohnston4127
    @andrewjohnston41273 жыл бұрын

    Dunno why it's called the Falkirk wheel, it's in tamfourhill 😂 same as the kelpies, in glensburgh,part of grangemouth but Falkirk still claim them

  • @yvonnejohnston9429

    @yvonnejohnston9429

    3 жыл бұрын

    Andrew Johnston tammyhill a part of Falkirk, and the kelpies in Falkirk, no Grangemouth 😂😂

  • @andrewjohnston4127

    @andrewjohnston4127

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@yvonnejohnston9429 I'll let you have that only cos you have a cool surname 😁

  • @laura8933
    @laura89333 жыл бұрын

    It's weird watching someone vlog in the area I live in lol Its pronounced FALL - KIRK = falkirk

  • @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @derekgunn3056
    @derekgunn30563 жыл бұрын

    Shame that Shawn hasn't learned how to pronounce FALKIRK (FALL-kirk). It comes from the name of the "Faw Kirk" Anvient Church with speckled stone (Faw stone)

  • @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for letting me know!

  • @phatmangreig3271
    @phatmangreig32713 жыл бұрын

    shawn sorryy but can you say falkirk right say fall then kirk seprately then try saying falkirk

  • @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    3 жыл бұрын

    My pronunciation is usually awful!

  • @carolejohnston4005
    @carolejohnston40053 жыл бұрын

    Falkirk is pronounced as "Fall Kirk' not 'Fal Kirk'

  • @pikeonatrike
    @pikeonatrike3 жыл бұрын

    What is this witchcraft

  • @lucaphys
    @lucaphys3 жыл бұрын

    if this will be boring for me

  • @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s something very different!

  • @jaxonwright2243
    @jaxonwright22433 жыл бұрын

    The background music tho...its annoying.

  • @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your feedback

  • @ryandunbar6507
    @ryandunbar65073 жыл бұрын

    Close enough pronounaction wise but it's "fall Kirk" shawn

  • @nigel5823

    @nigel5823

    3 жыл бұрын

    it pronounced falkirk shawn got it right this time

  • @ryandunbar6507

    @ryandunbar6507

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nigel5823 its fallkirk

  • @conorboylescotland
    @conorboylescotland3 жыл бұрын

    Mate it’s pronounced Fall - kirk

  • @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    @TheSanbrookeAdventures

    3 жыл бұрын

    My pronunciation is usually awful!