I think the problem with the supercub 125 is that it's exactly doing the opposite of what they marketed back then wherein the old cub was a cheap utilitarian bike.

@SmallBikeStuff

14 күн бұрын

Completely agree. There is no doubt it is a nice bike to ride. But when the Wave/PCX does the same thing for less than half the price it's hard to justify buying one. I'm still glad I got to try it though!

@tsevetgestoorde

13 күн бұрын

true

@123edwardzpad

11 күн бұрын

@@hoyemiliano I wonder how much cheaper it could have been without the keyless Ignition and theft preventing system?]

I was waiting for someone to say "hey i had one of them back in the day"

@SmallBikeStuff

14 күн бұрын

Haha I didn't let anyone get a word in. Had 3 old fellas start to walk up as I stopped but I had places to be.

I think you're right about the lacking utilitarian aspect. The new cub is a bit of an oddity in the current market. It's not sold well in the UK (where I am) either, if you were looking at something to get as a practical machine, why would you choose a Honda SuperCub with no storage and a semi-auto over any of the many different scooters with some built in storage and a much "easier" CVT

@SmallBikeStuff

13 күн бұрын

Yeah very true. Thats the real life choice people are faced with - When the wallet opens - what will really be the most beneficial option to buy?

Love mine, had it 5 months. Brilliant fun.

@SmallBikeStuff

13 күн бұрын

Thats awesome! What colour did you go for?

I like smal bikes. I had few and I considered purchase of one of new Honda 125: Super Cub, Monkey, Dax or MSX. Unfortunatelly Honda mounted a keyless bullshit into Super Cub so I removed it for the list. I purchased a Dax and I'm really happy with it. Dax has traditional ignition switch, key lock for seat unlocking. So no bother about battery in FOB, no possibility of losing a key and riding away. Sometimes less is more.

@SmallBikeStuff

13 күн бұрын

It'd be nice if the rest of the world had access to the 110cc version Thailand produces. They're super cost effective too! The dax is a nice bike though. I rode one in Thailand in 2022 and loved it.

I wish Honda would bring the Wave to the US, we have all the "toy" mini moto ranges but nothing as practical as a wave. CT 125's going for insane money. If you can find one..

@SmallBikeStuff

14 күн бұрын

Its a shame really. USA is one place that the Wave could easily be road legal. Many western countries have effectively banned new Waves from becoming legal due to ABS laws.

@batterybuilding

12 күн бұрын

I am not sure where you are from, but CT’s are easy to find in dealers now as well as on Marketplace. Few are asking over MSRP and no reason to even pay that. Lightly used ones are in $3500 range. I am in Kansas City.

It has no kick starter and no way to power the ignition on if the battery dies. So that right there destroys the legendary unkillability of the Super Cub.

@leeinwis

13 күн бұрын

Candy bar sized portable battery jumpers exist now though ..

@ShahryarSaigol

13 күн бұрын

Where are you gonna store those? In that micro side cover along with the tools needed to access the battery? There is a reason that Thailand,Vietnam, Cambodia, China, etc prefer the Wave.

Great Vid. I have a c50 fuel injection from 2008 that I use every day in Auckland. So much fun and perfect for getting around. Would be great to upgrade to one of these one day. I just love the look of them.

I just bought one in Thailand and absolutely love it. Its fire

That was a smart move, you must have got a hell of a deal on yours!

Hello again it’s me in England with the EX5 and Kawasaki Edge, I’ve also got one of these, rides just like my Honda innova 125i, cool little bike 🇬🇧👍

@SmallBikeStuff

14 күн бұрын

You’ve got a nice collection by the sounds of it. Do you ride the C125 or Innova more often?

@user-wr5zm8vs6m

14 күн бұрын

@@SmallBikeStuff I ride the innova more than all my other bikes put together, it’s been kept outside for 14 years just outside the back door, I have 14 years worth of photos of it with a foot of snow on it every winter, it still looks clean and is probably worth more than I paid for it, I only changed the spark plug last year and it was like new, by far the best bike I’ve ever had 👍😁

@SmallBikeStuff

14 күн бұрын

@@user-wr5zm8vs6m Confirmed my suspicions right there. They are an amazing bike. People may not fall in love with them in first sight, but if you own and ride one for a few months almost anyone can become a fully fledged convert to the world of the Honda Wave/Innova.

@user-wr5zm8vs6m

14 күн бұрын

@@SmallBikeStuffI’ll send you some photos of it covered in snow and some real hard off road footage, it’s never let me down, all it gets is an oil change, chain and pair of tyres every year 👍🇬🇧

@user-wr5zm8vs6m

14 күн бұрын

PS, got extra LED lights and heated grips 😁, six of my pals also ride the same bikes, best modification ever is coming down 1 tooth on the front sprocket or 2 if you’re off road all the time 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

So the reason I got the one in this video and not the trail version is because it was $1000 less and it had a proper gear indicator, which I really wanted so less than a year probably 2/3 of a year I have put over 7000 miles on it so far and it’s worked exactly the way it supposed to than regular maintenance and replacing where items like tires and things like that. It has had no problems, but it absolutely should not.

I saw Jay Leno's video on this bike when it first came out. It's cool that it sold in America too.

@SmallBikeStuff

13 күн бұрын

Yeah I'm glad many countries got this bike!

I have the same cub as the one in your video and I put a 65 L locking waterproof box on mine and a rear rack and I put a front rack on and then a tiny box on that and I can also strap stuff to the top of the bigger box in the backso I’ve got as much storage as I can and I use that thing for everything

Always wanted a super cub but they're so expensive here because of import taxes, and it looks like a really bad deal when the supra x(wave) 125 exists for a quarter of the price of the c125 with the same engine, less electronics, more seating/cargo space, and rear disk brakes

@SmallBikeStuff

14 күн бұрын

That’s exactly why I own a Wave 125 and not a super cub. Cheers for watching!

I thought real hard about a 125 Super Cub the other day. I really want to like them.

@SmallBikeStuff

14 күн бұрын

I did love it, riding it felt awesome and it's well put together. But because I own the Honda Wave I'll always have a tough time liking anything else more.

I’ve got one. It’s a great fun bike. They look ridiculous with baskets on the front & inside leg shield. But you can get them. There are loads of aftermarket solutions. I did put the Rack on the back which is very handy indeed. The only downside to a C125 is they are crap up a hill or mild incline. They loose all the “power”. Other than that they are ace.

@SmallBikeStuff

13 күн бұрын

Nice to have an owner here chiming in. I loved riding this bike and I can only imagine how great it is having one to ride every day.

Having ridden a few SuperCub 125s now I can say they are a fun bike, but the ergonomics are a bit off for me. I would pick the CT125 over the SuperCub. But thats just me.

@SmallBikeStuff

13 күн бұрын

Thats a weird way to spell Honda Wave....

@IdeaStudioBKK

13 күн бұрын

@@SmallBikeStuff 5555

Hi. I really love small Hondas, specially the Under Bone models. And I really like the C125 Super Cub Design..Except the Key Less Ignition. Lack of Storage Capacity & Kick Starter ! I have a question @ smallbikestuff.. Between your Wave i 125 (stock) & Super Cub C 125..(even though, probably same PGM-FI Engine)...Which has Better Acceleration/ Top Speed/ Nimbleness/ Handling..over all, a bit more Sporty ? Thanks

@SmallBikeStuff

13 күн бұрын

In stock form they are almost identical in performance. The big difference was just the usability of the Wave in daily life with the extra storage. The 125 engine is so similar in every bike it's powering. People say the C125 is faster than the CT125 and while it's technically true, it's also not something you'd never really notice in daily life. So for me - it would be getting the bike that suited my needs most.

@batterybuilding

12 күн бұрын

@@SmallBikeStuffI would say the leg shielding is the only advantage the Super Cub has over the CT. I get spray on my feet when the streets are wet. However, for daily use the CT rules in an urban setting.

I need it! 😭😭

@SmallBikeStuff

14 күн бұрын

I feel so lucky to finally ride one! It’s been a long time since I first saw them in person.

❤

@SmallBikeStuff

13 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching!

We could be the English branch of Small bike stuff 👍😂🤣😂

@user-wr5zm8vs6m

14 күн бұрын

One of us has a tuned honda cub thats genuinely 86 cc and has 17hp on the rolling road, it’s a pocket missile 😮

So the reason I got the one in this video and not the trail version is because it was $1000 less and it had a proper gear indicator, which I really wanted

I gather they sold pretty rubbish when released in the UK I know I was watching one at the local Honda dealer ex demo bike with a few hundred miles and it took a while to sell for £2000!!! Used ones now are usually over £3000, maybe the poor sales is part of the reason we didn't get the CT125 which I was really gutted about although looking on ebay imports seem to have flooded the market and theres 10 of them currently for sale between £4300 and £5000!!

@SmallBikeStuff

13 күн бұрын

Interesting to hear a UK update. I remember people saying sales seemed low there. We had the original CT's so we were lucky enough to get the new ones. But I feel Honda has taken the low C125 sales as an excuse to not bring the Honda Dax 125 to New Zealand. So I guess we're even in that respect. No suprise people have listed their CT125's for sale as it can be an acquired taste. But I'm mind blown people paid the asking price. It's impressive if anything. I do wonder if Seven Seas importing the CT125's made Honda pull finger and bring in the Dax for you guys.

@jakespeed6515

13 күн бұрын

Umm,, imported CT125 vs Voge 300 Rally £4K OTR ?

niche market now -- nearly AU$7,000 to nearly AU$8,000 s/h in Oz. I would love one, even a do-upper. My 2012 V-Strom would only fetch $4,500

@SmallBikeStuff

13 күн бұрын

Crazy how the Aussie market got so few. I think NZ even got more and we've barely got the population of Sydney.

They sell some in Europe but not as much as 125 equivalent scooter. At the twice the price of a good quality 125 scooter and not all of the practicalities. They sell some numbers out of nostalgia (the nostalgia is not very big in Europe for the model anyway/, sell some to a motorcycle 'purist' that need something small for urban use but do not want the 'stigma' that they are riding cvt scooter. Yes, that is a thing here. On the other hand we have other expensive scooters like the Vespa and there are many times more new Vespas on the road here then Cubs.

@SmallBikeStuff

13 күн бұрын

It's always interesting to learn how other countries approach different bikes. At least with lots of Vespas on the road they would be fairly cost effective to maintain and run.

does it at least have hooks for shopping bags on the front leg faring? whats the silver metal square just under the speedometer nest to the key ignition? hidden hooks maybe???😎

@SmallBikeStuff

14 күн бұрын

Sadly it's just a silver plastic cover. But there are aftermarket hooks than can be added either side of that cover. They're for sale on beezdeals.

My mates mum bought one from lakes honda, its almost a pinky red colour, that he can borrow. Its got legs on my ct125, buts not as flash on the gravel haha. The keyfob thing is a bit weird haha. I reckon its pretty cool, its definitely pretty gucci

@SmallBikeStuff

13 күн бұрын

Yeah they look the part, and feel bloody comfortable. Don't know if I'd want to take one off road just because they look so nice. 😂😂😂

@yalefail

13 күн бұрын

@@SmallBikeStuff oh yeah man haha, he was allowed to borrow it, but had to wash it before he returned haha. Been trying to rope him into a nbc110, there was one in te puke or something on marketplace the ither day for $1300

@SmallBikeStuff

13 күн бұрын

@@yalefail i know the guy that ended up buying that one. Tauranga fella. Wasn’t too bad of a deal.

@yalefail

13 күн бұрын

@@SmallBikeStuff bloody good deal when a top end and clutch refresh is a only couple hundred bucks haha. The one i did for a mate was at 56,000 but other than being a top end rattly was mint

Cute but expensive. I agree, the lack of storage makes this model of supercub a less practical option, so I bought a Suzuki UK110 with top box. Nowhere near as cute but half the price and twice as practical.

@SmallBikeStuff

13 күн бұрын

The Address 110 is a great bike! I have considered it many times but I think I'll save/hold out for a PCX 150 because of the large amount of parts that exist for it. How long have you owned the Suzuki?

@markneville8069

13 күн бұрын

@@SmallBikeStuff 3 years now. Keeps my DL1000XT company

I have that exact bike. (even the color) but that aftermarket can is not for me. I don't like the sound. I have a rear rack with a crate attached. It's pretty good for urban riding...even though you have to shift as opposed to a CVT scooter.

why every SCub owner have the yoshimura exhaust on the bike 😂

@SmallBikeStuff

14 күн бұрын

Because it sounds good! Much nicer than my Noo Lamlukka pipe on the Wave.

I just rode the same bike back from Christchurch to Palmy for my dad! The upside down gearbox from all other cubs confused me for a while!

@SmallBikeStuff

14 күн бұрын

NO WAY! That would have been the BEST ride. How long did it take? Sounds like fun! And yes - the gear change is backwards to my normal bike so I almost got myself in a pickle a couple of times.

@markspash178

13 күн бұрын

@@SmallBikeStuff I met the guy we bought it from at Christchurch airport, he left and when I went to ride away, I started to panic as I couldn’t get it to go into gear, tried so many times until finally I clicked it up! Apparently we must have got the USA model in NZ with the reverse gearbox. The rest of the world got the conventional cub shifting. 6 hours to Blenheim for the night, next day on the ferry and home to Palmy. It was a fun trip, cruising 70-80kmh

too bad doesnt have a kick start.& comes with a stupid keyless FOB.

@SmallBikeStuff

13 күн бұрын

Yup kickstart would have been a nice touch for sure. Funny story - I ended up forgetting the keyfob in my jacket pocket and actually left with it before the owner got in touch asking me to return it. 🤣

Still kinda want, giz a cheap one

@SmallBikeStuff

13 күн бұрын

I'd be keen on a cheap one!

I like them but find the lack of kick start, conventional ignition key, proper seat, etc a bit of a let down. My innova with a modified bench seat is way more practical

@SmallBikeStuff

13 күн бұрын

Yup - Innova is a great bike and can't be beat. I'd say in the next 5 years they'll be harder to come by in nice condition in the UK. I'd be stocking up now! Glad you've got one.

@alistairrobinson3865

12 күн бұрын

@@SmallBikeStuff couldn’t agree more, I have 2 innova 125s already! 😂. Both fuel injected 2008/9 models 🙏

The trail125 is more my style.

@SmallBikeStuff

13 күн бұрын

Love the Trail 125!

Super Cub 125 does much better on 💩 roads and it is fastest top speed than the CT 125. I ❤ them all.

@SmallBikeStuff

13 күн бұрын

I wish I could have one of each bike!

Too expensive too "normal" to justify it imho... heck i rather ride an adv160 or ct125

@SmallBikeStuff

14 күн бұрын

Fair call! Glad I finally got to test this thing. It felt great to ride - but the next bike on my list is a PCX!