Richard B. Frank: China's "War of Resistance" 1937-42 - January 24, 2012

Military historian Richard B. Frank examines the new international scholarship on the first five years of China's "War of Resistance" against Japan, from 1937-42.

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  • @DJCamYank
    @DJCamYank10 жыл бұрын

    An exceptional scholar and soon to be the doyen of Pacific War scholarship. Bravo to the KC Public Library for hosting this great event.

  • @RonJohn63
    @RonJohn639 жыл бұрын

    Lecture starts at 3:55.

  • @cosmicmuffet1053

    @cosmicmuffet1053

    8 жыл бұрын

    finishes telling joke about Gone With The Wind at 7:54. Not that I mind, but he says it at the beginning of a few of his lectures.

  • @exilfromsanity
    @exilfromsanity7 жыл бұрын

    A little more volume would be nice, at least enough that I could hear it.

  • @TheDavidlloydjones

    @TheDavidlloydjones

    Жыл бұрын

    Um, you know there's a knob on your computer...?

  • @georgemarsh883
    @georgemarsh8837 жыл бұрын

    The other contribution of RoC is their army had destroyed or seriously damaged the majority of the best units of the Japanese Imperial Army. This included the 21st brigade of the 5th Division, known to the Soviet Red Army as the steel sword. All 5000 men, from the brigadier down perished. The 6th division was withdrawn from China altogether by 1938, after being reorganized with reservists and enlisted men and renamed the 106th. The 106th itself was annihilated later in the in Wuhan. The 9th Division, the elite marines suffered 95% casualty. It ceased to exist as a unit. The list goes on. The Japanese army in the Pacific were mainly weakened elite or second tier reservists. Otherwise the Pacific war is almost certainly be a lot worse for the allies.

  • @andrewdolokhov5408

    @andrewdolokhov5408

    6 жыл бұрын

    I read (I think I remember!) the absolute reverse in the British "History of the Second World War" series edited by Liddel Hart (at the beginning of the series). In it, when describing the destruction of the Japanese Kwangtung Army by the Soviet Russians at the end of the war, they claimed that it had been hollowed out by transfers to fight the Americans.

  • @taoliu3949

    @taoliu3949

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@andrewdolokhov5408 The Japanese Military could basically be split into various theatres. Manchuria for the large part was at relative peace, which meant all the manpower went to fight China, the British, or Americans. By the 1945, we are talking bottom of the barrel. The Americans and British came in about half way in 1941, but by then Japan was already having manpower and logistics issues. Keep in mind that Japanese offensives more or less stalled by 1939.

  • @andrewdolokhov5408

    @andrewdolokhov5408

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@taoliu3949 Yes, the Japanese Army in China proper had more to do than the Japanese Army in Manchuria did. Hunting the many Kim Il Sungs wasn't that engaging. The late war Japanese offensive I-chi-go in central China was a major one.

  • @johnlin5449

    @johnlin5449

    3 жыл бұрын

    As a well educated Chinese, not like the western propaganda described and said,I must insist, the young one should be understand the true history,that owing to a long time(almost one hundred years) colonized by British Empire, France and the United States, the poor country with inadequate military equipment the Chinese troops were hard to defeat the Fascism Japanese Empire's invaded at the very beginning since 1931(the invade Manchu war) and this situation last many years to defeat the enemy alone. In the mean time, with the policy of appeasement 綏靖政策the British Empire, France and the United States, even the Soviet Union were also ignored the Fascism Japanese Empire's invasion to China, that's why the Fascism Japanese Empire indulged and dared to enlarge their occupied degree.The Chinese people sacrificed volume would surely exceeded to ten or twenty million lives in this anti-Japanese invade war and the war period turn out totally lasts 14years.

  • @taoliu3949

    @taoliu3949

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@johnlin5449 Huh? Nowhere has the British and Americans tried to appease the Japanese. In fact, the US ended up sanctioning Japan which would eventually be the cause of Japan attacking the Allied powers in Southeast Asia. The British were busy fighting the Germans since 1939, and the French had already capitulated.

  • @FuriousRemix
    @FuriousRemix8 жыл бұрын

    I saw this video a few years ago, and couldn't find it again. Found this channel by mistake since the fall of France video was linked and I lazily clicked it.

  • @talktidy7523
    @talktidy75232 жыл бұрын

    Mr Frank is a man worth paying attention to, but the sound quality on this video is so gawdawful it makes it an unnecessarily difficult task.

  • @uk4717
    @uk47172 жыл бұрын

    Operation Ichi-Go is an operation conducted by the Japanese Army on the Chinese mainland from April 17th to December 10th, 1944 during the Sino-Japanese War. It was the last major offensive of the Japanese Army, which caused the National Revolutionary Army to be hit hard and affected during the Chinese Civil War. However, on the other hand, the United States is also mediating the conclusion of the Double Tenth Agreement with Chiang Kai-shek in order to avoid a civil war. According to a study by Barbara W. Tuchman, the results of this operation had a more significant impact on the subsequent war situation than the Japanese had imagined, and had a decisive impact on Japan's fate. According to it, Franklin Roosevelt has consistently strongly trusted and supported Chiang Kai-shek since the beginning of the war, and encouraged him in the war against Japan so that he would not drop out of the Allies in a single peace with Japan during the Cairo Conference. However, he said that he changed his mind because the front of Chiang Kai-shek collapsed due to this operation. In fact, Chiang Kai-shek has not been invited to important Allied conferences ("Yalta Conference" and "Potsdam Conference") since then. According to the Stilwell document, Roosevelt said, "Can China win?" Stilwell said, "There is no choice but to eliminate Chiang Kai-shek." During the 1944 Hengyang battle, he could not sleep at night and twice. He says he thought about suicide. The American side also planned to assassinate Chiang Kai-shek, and three methods of "poisoning", "aircraft incident", and "pretending to be suicide" were considered, but it was canceled in 1944 due to changes in the international situation such as Burma. The successor that the United States envisioned is Sun Fountain. As Roosevelt's Chief of Staff George Marshall and General Joseph Stilwell have long insisted, Chiang Kai-shek's army is actually a demoralized and corrupt organization that does not form an army. It became clear that he had no desire or ability to fight with the United States and other Allied forces. As a result, President Roosevelt changed the scenario of the operation against Japan from the conventional bombing of Japan and other countries from the air bases of mainland China to the one that MacArthur and others claimed to occupy the islands of the Pacific Ocean one after another. China was dismissed at the Yalta Conference, and the Allied nation's footsteps were disturbed, with angry Chiang Kai-shek presenting a peace plan to Japan against the will of the United States. The Japanese Operation Ichi-Go attack left the National Revolutionary Army with 750,000 casualties. This caused the Kuomintang to lose to the Communist Party in the civil war. China would not have been dominated by the dictatorship Communist Party if it had made peace with Japan and cooperated in protecting it from communism.

  • @MarcDufresneosorusrex

    @MarcDufresneosorusrex

    6 ай бұрын

    It was just fate that Chiang's soldiers found themselves in the wrong place at the wrong time; which was Shanghai in 194... at the time of Ichigo.. while Mao was sipping tea in the chinese countryside.. Tojo didn't know it at the time but KMT's and IJA's objectives ran parralell with some differences but basically both were on paper anti communist.. they weren't aware of Mao's band of commies? I know Mao basically took Manchuria from Japan and the weapons they left behind to crush Chiang's armies. That makes me upset because that means China is communist by default and not because that's what most normal folks wanted at the time. I suppose I should be more upset at Japan's high command than at Roosevelt's policies...

  • @fearlessfreap8093
    @fearlessfreap80932 жыл бұрын

    I have read that Japan considered its greatest adversary to be the Soviet Union and that there were elements in Japan that wanted to attack it. Imagine if China ad Mr. Frank postulated had been defeated in early 1941, the Japanese would be able to strike the Soviet Union together with Germany. The Pearl Harbor attack would probably never have happened at least when it did.

  • @Conn30Mtenor
    @Conn30Mtenor10 ай бұрын

    China's vital role in WW2 was overshadowed, in my opinion, because the Communists won the civil war and American hostility to communism in the intervening years colored any historical study of the subject.

  • @MarcDufresneosorusrex

    @MarcDufresneosorusrex

    6 ай бұрын

    Stalin was a commie and the US government shared info, technology and logistics, how can you say they were hostile to communism?

  • @neil03152
    @neil031523 жыл бұрын

    A lot more volume is required or else this fails

  • @TheDavidlloydjones

    @TheDavidlloydjones

    Жыл бұрын

    In April 2023 both the volume and the audio quality are fine.

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