Now she know that her father never lost faith in her and their is no other way than all out war

@blankcanvas499

19 күн бұрын

Yaay! Let's go.🎉🐲🔥🔥

@kushagraahire1871

19 күн бұрын

Eaten by Sunfire

@andrewchiusiwa3487

19 күн бұрын

​@@kushagraahire1871Doesn't matter

@michaelscofield6721

19 күн бұрын

You look so gay in your photo 💀🤣​@@kushagraahire1871

@nathanblu9495

19 күн бұрын

The blacks lineage carried on while the green got snuffed out. 🖤

You can just see the "Oh shit...I made a mistake" look on Alicent face. She desperately wanted to believe that King Viserys wanted Aegon on the throne. The sad truth is he didn't and that deep down she always knew that. He never loved her children like the way he loved Rhaenyra. He wasn't the best father but Rhaenyra was always his favorite. I mean the man got out of his dying bed to defend her.

@amitkenan3878

19 күн бұрын

It didn't matter. Otto planned the coup long before Viserys died

@yusufraage8554

19 күн бұрын

I bet you're one of the few that thinks Alicent has any real power. No matter what she said when Viserys I died her son would've been put on the throne and she only made the task easy for her father by being convinced it was what Viserys I wanted. Even Otto was like you must be delusional when he heard what Alicent said in episode 9.

@Xenictent

19 күн бұрын

@@yusufraage8554”I bet you’re one of the few that thinks Alicent has any real power” 🤓

@michaels5217

19 күн бұрын

@@yusufraage8554 she wasn't convinced, she lied to herself, and she knew deep down she was lying to herself. Ramblings of an old man on his death bed lol.

@NRV0

19 күн бұрын

@@yusufraage8554 You ok? Where is your hostility coming from? All I was doing was just pointing out Alicent coming to terms that he never wanted Aegon on the throne.

Lesson learned…. Stop naming your children the same names

@d-tanz8727

19 күн бұрын

Bro MY ENTIRE POINT i said this after the episode see how much couldve been avoided

@yusufraage8554

19 күн бұрын

People only name their kids after heroes and there are not many heroes.

@srichardf

19 күн бұрын

Well there were three other kings named Aegon after Aegon II. There was also the fact that Rheager's two sons were both named Aegon (his son with his first wife, and the one we knew as Jon Snow).

@kingjames846

19 күн бұрын

​@@srichardfJon snow aka aegon VI

@goblincomic4522

19 күн бұрын

Lmao you take that season 8 as lore Canon.

People say that this entire scene was a filler, not needed, a waste of screen time, but I see it differently, I see it as this was what Rhaenyra needed to hear to be fully convinced to smash the greens. She was doubtful and uncertain until this very point. Now she has the conviction to start the war. Her father never changed his mind.

@Popepaladin

19 күн бұрын

If people consider dialogue between main characters filler i'm not sure this is a show for them.

@Beepbeepbeepbe

19 күн бұрын

It’s stupid. This is season 8. Anyone who thinks this is good is a nutjob

@rhr2253

19 күн бұрын

It wasnt filler but it was dumb unrealistic and void of all logic (yes i get it theres magic and dragons that doesnt excuse the sloppy writing)

@LyricalXilence

19 күн бұрын

Her son's death didn't convince her?

@rhr2253

19 күн бұрын

@@LyricalXilence Convince her of what?? The pacing is dumb, dragonstone and kingslanding are 400 miles apart, anyone could easily spot her, Alicent wouldve immedietly arrest her. This scene was dumb and just an excuse to have these two speak together

Alicent knows she was wrong now, but she also knows it's too late to stop anything. There is no turning back.

@amitkenan3878

19 күн бұрын

Yes. It's kill or be killed at this point

@caronstout354

19 күн бұрын

"Alea Iacta Est" Caesar

@yusufraage8554

19 күн бұрын

Alicent cant stop anything even if she tried her side just uses her for her feet, her child bearing hips and her hypocrisy and all of those asset are depleted.

@bhagaskevin4231

19 күн бұрын

Because she cant control her kids. And also she is selfish, she wants Aegon on the throne

@subutaynoyan5372

18 күн бұрын

There's no right or wrong, all this shit is caused by Viserys' indecisiveness. He wanted to conciliate Targaryern might with Westerosi order. He wanted that Rhaenyra lives as she pleases as a Targaryen dragonrider, but also wanted her to take over a very strict, patriarchal monarchy He kept Hightowers overly dominant in court, wheras her heir is forced away because of the pressure of Alicent and rumours and did fucking nothing for years

Rhaenyra's, "Alicent are you f'ing serious??" look..and Alicent realizing that she is fighting for a lie but is in far too deep to pull out of it.

@yusufraage8554

19 күн бұрын

Alicent always knew she had no say in what way Aegon was put on the throne she just made it easier for her father.

The love Viserys had with Rhaenyra is so indestructible, it's beyond favoritism, and I think I relate to it. It's how he channeled that love from Rhaenyra's mother, that's why Rhaenyra always comes first in everything, even Daemon.

The only thing I don't like about this scene is how they tried to make us believe that the twin assasination was a dumb idea but Rhaenyra walking right into the beehive was not.

@zeno9103

19 күн бұрын

It was actually genius. They should've planned more though. It would be fun if both teams had the same "The Parent Trap" idea at the same time.

@DarkSpells87

19 күн бұрын

It is all about the intent. The other one was assassination attempt that, if failed, would be politically very bad for the Greens. This one is 2 ex friends on the opposite side of the war trying to find solution. At least it is what Rhaenyra wanted. She risked a lot and her character is even more likable. But also she overrestimated Alicent's influence in the matter. As Alicent said, it is too late. I doubt anyone in Black court would think this a good idea, it is the biggest risk they made.

@zippers987

19 күн бұрын

the only thing i can think about this working is that rhaenyra hasn't been seen by the common people in a such a long time and neither by people of the faith of the seven. so the septons and septas wouldn't recognize her. if the area is clear of most other nobles save alicent maybe.... but it's still such a risk. i think the dumb thing about the twins (which you 're right the show does frame overall as stupid) is that it's very much a what then kinda plan. like you kill Rhaenyra do you think daemon targeryen just lets that go? there's no strategy behind it, just like the murder of jaehaerys

@pabloduavy7933

19 күн бұрын

I think it was a big risk to Rhaenyra. But She knows that and she knows that if she had told to her Council, they would try to convence her to not do it! So, this is the reason she did it secretly even from her team. Anyways, it was a big courage and risk to her. She just tried to to something to stop the imminent War. She knows it will be a horrible war..

@Silentpixel2024

19 күн бұрын

Twin assassination?

*Rhaenyra was like “All this is over a bed time story?!??! FOH!!!!”*

@bhslfdhe

19 күн бұрын

It would have happened anyway

@datsapaddlin6449

19 күн бұрын

@@bhslfdhe She was ok with her being Queen until she heard that story. She thought she was doing what he wanted and got it wrong

@bhslfdhe

19 күн бұрын

@@datsapaddlin6449 otto did all this

@amitkenan3878

19 күн бұрын

@@datsapaddlin6449 She was in denial. She never wanted to believe that Viserys loved his wife and daughter more than her and their shared children

"Oops" -Alicent

@curlyhairblacklilacs

19 күн бұрын

Whoopsie Poopsie!

@JoSheperd

19 күн бұрын

"House of the Whoopsie"

@luiousy7329

19 күн бұрын

She was not wrong the the prophecy is still real just different generation

I guess they're trying to establish that Rhaenyra will go to war for a higher purpose now, a responsibilty of Aegon's dream. Also, the music in this is beautiful.

@monicad99

19 күн бұрын

so sick of aegon’s dream at this point. it’s all nice and good, but when you have extremely pressing matters, like “wars looming,” you don’t really place that much importance on a dream of an ancestor, you tend to try and solve to very real and undream like stuff in front of you.

@Luis-ou9fn

19 күн бұрын

@@monicad99 it’s not just a dream, not unlike Daenys the dreamer seeing the doom of valyria, aegon foresaw the end of the world unless the realm United to fight the enemy to the north. That’s his sole purpose for conquering Westeros.

@kingkiller5325

19 күн бұрын

​@@monicad99I think it's not just placing importance on a dream. Rhaenyra needs a justification for war. Everyone knows this war is going to be terrible. And religious Prophecies have often been used throughout History to justify atrocities. Rhaenyra in her mind needs a bigger justification than just her claim to the throne to start this war. Maybe to convince herself that she's better than Alicent and the Greens. And Aegon's Prophecy gives her that excuse.

@masterexploder9668

19 күн бұрын

Knowing how Aegon's dream ends in GoT Season 8 leaves a really bitter taste in my mouth.

@Hero_Of_Old

19 күн бұрын

@@masterexploder9668 I just forget about Season 8 of GOT and think more of how the books will end.

This is such a powerful scene. Was it a risk that could have gone wrong? Yes, but she needed clarity. She needed to know why Alicent put Aegon on the throne. As much as I don't like Alicent, she's right. It's too late. Too much has happened, and there isn't going back now. You can't just say, "Oops i made a mistake. Step aside so Rhanerya can be Queen." Even if Otto was there, he wouldn't support Rhanerya and she wouldn't be able to forgive him. He knew Viserys didn't change his mind. He just went along with it because he figured he could rule through Aegon. It's sad, though, because lots of people will die.

@loisen

19 күн бұрын

I don’t even see why she wants to be the queen. Even Dany wished it more after discovering that Jon is Aegon. Yes, your father wanted you to be the heir. Now someone else got it. Why should anyone change that?

@Queenofdragons93

19 күн бұрын

@loisen she wants to bring upon change. Women are often overlooked, and she was prepared by her father to rule. Aegon was never prepared to rule. He didn't even want to be King. He's very vulnerable and easy to sway in some ways, but also arrogant in other ways. I'm not saying Rhanerya is perfect, but she truly did want to rule with peace. But since both sides have fired shots, there is only one path. Survival.

@mino-taur

18 күн бұрын

@@loisen so if your parents die and I come in to your house and take away everything they put in their will for you, and possess your house and kick you to the curb- you'd move on?

This war, as so many others, even in real life, came out of a chain of misunderstandings.

@601marcusable

19 күн бұрын

Always

@yusufraage8554

19 күн бұрын

Not really this war was bound to happen the day Aegon II was born and Viserys never married Deamon and Rheanyra or atleast kept Deamon around as his hand. Maybe Rheanyra would marry ser Leanor but have kids with Deamon, that would be ideal but Viserys I is weak and I fear his daughter is just like her father.

0:57, and it was in that moment Alicent knew she had done f*cked up

The Director of Photography did an amazing job with this scene, the lighting is phenomenal.

@rupik4358

18 күн бұрын

The scene with Damon descending that storm tower in the rain was something else on an OLED

The song of ice and fire is a secret only shared from king to Heir never other way. Now we know, there´s no both sides to chose, the decision was already taken in the first season. Rhaenyra is the true heir of the iron throne no by tradition but by right. Aegon II can a male heir but Rhaenyra was chosen and Viserys broke the tradition; Viserys never cared about sharing the song of ice and fire to Aegon becasuse he never wanted him succeding in ruling the seven kingdoms.

i know some people didnt like this scene but as a non book reader it was pretty much the only scene i liked this episode aside from the dragon eggs scene. just makes things super sad of whats probably about to come.

@epicmusic8063

19 күн бұрын

It's a very meaningful scene indeed, but it should've happened in a more "canon" way since they meet again. This meeting makes Alicent a traitor to her family and Rhaenyra an idiot.

@fairlycultured9329

19 күн бұрын

Same. I think it shows that the war wasn't that dumb to be only based on a mistake or error. It would have happened without that error

@ZackFlairr

19 күн бұрын

@@epicmusic8063 thats the idea, the book, lore videos, even characters word of mouth kinda apply they are, i mean history remember rhaenyra is an idiot for example

@Hero_Of_Old

19 күн бұрын

I didn't like it at start but its grown on me

@h3h3h3coolundso

19 күн бұрын

@@epicmusic8063 This meeting changes absolutely nothing about the standings of the characters, other than non book readers do have a better understanding of everything. People who understood viserys at the first place knew, that Alicent misunderstood. And why should Rhaenyra be an idiot for trying her best to be 100% certain the bloodshed is REALLY needed?

To be honest, yes Alicent made a mistake but this was always likely to happen in the end, even if she didn't misinterpret Viserys's dying words. Otto and her sons were always going to thirst and challenge for the throne, whether she was an active participant or not.

@HelmHammerhand1709

19 күн бұрын

To be fair there legacy is way more stable. After rhaenyra the realm would not accept bastards and the 3 bastards would have to fight rhaenyras 2 youngest sons. They would be the real heir.

@VariantShades

18 күн бұрын

@@HelmHammerhand1709 In fairness, this argument doesn't make any sense. You say the realm would not accept bastards. Uh. As long as House Targaryen is united. The realm has no choice but to accept whatever House Targaryen tells them to. Whether infighting happens between them or Rhaenyra's 2 youngest son is complete guesswork, but considering how much affection they show each other in the show. That seems unlikely.

Otto already knows Viserys didn't name Aegon, and he's not in charge. Cole is hand, Aegon's a psycho. After the ratcatcher murders, the only ethical thing to do is to leave with Rhaenyra. You couldn't think of this on the spot, but if Alicent was upstanding, she'd order her guards to go back to the keep and guard Halaena or something. She'd leave with Rhaenyra back to Dragonstone. She should just admit she made a mistake. It won't stop the war, but it would add more houses to team black.

@quakethedoombringer

19 күн бұрын

She was way too deep into this to back out. Daemon would murk Alicent on the spot regardless of Rhaneyra's opinions

@mohdmohtashim9841

19 күн бұрын

ya suure, why not say F U to the entire writting and production department at the HBO on her way out... sheeesh

@amitkenan3878

19 күн бұрын

It didn't matter what she would have done. Aegon and his brother at this point were completely focused on destroying Rhaenyra

@savannahs8914

19 күн бұрын

I think part of Alicent knows that, if she says what happened, it'll sow a seed of doubt *just* enough that it'll weaken her side. If her side is weak, then her children and remaining grandchild are in danger (or so Otto has DRILLED into her head). If Aegon doubts himself any more, he won't have the strength to make sure the Greens win and, if that happens, then they're all dead. Remember: she thinks Rhae and Damon killed Laenor by *burning him alive* so that she could solidify her place on the throne. She also believes that Rhaenyra doesn't have the sense of religious honor she does. All of these characters are also experiencing these events *in real time*. No one remembers what war between dragon riders is like. No one has good records of it (I assume those all went up in smoke with old Valyria). She has survived the past 20 years of her life (y'know, as a 15 year old girl married to Viserys as he wastes away in front of her) by putting all of her mental energy into her children and all of her emotional energy into her faith and her duty as a Queen and Dowager Queen. She's torn between her two sides: the Queen Mother and the Woman of Faith and it seems the Queen Mother is winning.

@icedblack5958

18 күн бұрын

She should openly change to the side AGAINST her children and grandchildren?? I don’t think she was a „good“ mother, but she does love her children and her father. She can’t support the blacks even if they are in the right, they still are trying to kill her family

The entire dance is perfect representation of why you shouldn't name everyone the exact same thing. 😂

The best part was when Rhenyra admited she started badly 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Funny

@yusufraage8554

19 күн бұрын

Rheanyra is bad all around and she is doing everything in her power to lose this war.

@jomene1125

19 күн бұрын

​@@yusufraage8554 Nah

@jomene1125

19 күн бұрын

Yeah I thought it was funny too, also funny how she couldn't reply to alicent when she asked "and then what" to rhaenyra "not before I killed you" when alicent threatened to alert the guards of rhaenyra's presence lol 😂😂 I would have said "and then you'd be dead", that's what. Lol 😂

@czos9239

19 күн бұрын

That and looking like she wants to Dracarys that one nun hanging around.

I like the elaboration on 'A Song of Ice and Fire' in this show, at this point we may as well take it as its own continuity rather than a pure GOT prequel. It's definitely more of a ASOIAF story than simply a GOT-show’s spin off.

Emma is such a damn amazing actress. The way she can convey so much emotion in her facial expressions is pure masterclass. I could feel Rhaenyra's sadness in knowing that for those few moments her father lost faith in her in becoming queen and feeling her sheer disappointment.

@thegrandmagus

19 күн бұрын

not she. they

@ArnoldTriyudho

19 күн бұрын

​@@thegrandmagusDid they still she when got casted??

@stradeup207

19 күн бұрын

​@@thegrandmagus what?

@dumitrescusorana1907

19 күн бұрын

@@ArnoldTriyudho no, it's always been they

@masterexploder9668

19 күн бұрын

He never lost faith, but he was in delirium and confused Alicent with Rhaenyra. What he told her was a super important Targaryen secret passed from every ruler to heir, as I understand it.

The look she gives at the end reminds me of how the last episode of the season ended like “shits gonna go down now…again”

Am I the only one who loved this episode?

@skyedavies1042

19 күн бұрын

hmmmm good question. maybe you are the only one... idk what do you think? do you think anyone else liked it?

@thealmightykaren5926

19 күн бұрын

my favorite episode so far

@joshthaller4754

19 күн бұрын

The episode was great

@idajohansson6921

19 күн бұрын

I loved it very very much! I like this scene too

@Hero_Of_Old

19 күн бұрын

Yeah, thought it was great. This scene was a bit far fetched. Loved the Harrenhal stuff though.

Oh no... anyway. -Alicent

Head canon time Viserys did have a prophecy dream about Aegon Targareyan, the one borne in Dorn to Lyanna stark

Honestly, having a sort of meeting between the two factions on neutral ground that then ends up in war because an agreement isn't reached would have made a lot more sense than this.

Soundtrack at the endd 🤯🤯🤯

@AquaEvaUmi

19 күн бұрын

I know! I wanna know what the name of it is!

@shariqmalik99

18 күн бұрын

​@@AquaEvaUmime too. I want to know the name of this soundtrack.

@gwillia849

15 күн бұрын

@@AquaEvaUmi​​⁠​⁠It somewhat sounds like it was merged with the same song that was playing when young Rhaenyra butchered the boar & came back to camp in season 1. So good!

@gwillia849

15 күн бұрын

@@shariqmalik99​​⁠​⁠It somewhat sounds like it was merged with the same song that was playing when young Rhaenyra butchered the boar & came back to camp in season 1. So good!

It was at this moment Alicent knew. She fucked up.

@datsapaddlin6449

19 күн бұрын

Big time she put her slow son in charge over a bedtime story 😂

@amitkenan3878

19 күн бұрын

@@datsapaddlin6449 Otto would have put him in power anyway. He, like her, realized that he had made a big mistake

this really sets everything into motion, I like that Alicent now knows it was a misunderstanding, but She's not going to stop now, it's all too far gone. Now, Rhaenyra can feel more comfortable doing what needs to be done to these people causing the war and stealing her throne.

Well for all the book readers the dance of the dragons is the accounts of mushroom so it is pretty sure that he may have been uninformed about a lot of incidents

@gooby214

19 күн бұрын

Don't use the show to explain book stuff. The two must NEVER get mixed together. And no, I'll have none of that "B-but George said blah blah" nonsense.

@marcbiengo

19 күн бұрын

​@@gooby214So a show based on a book is not supposed to be mixed up with the book? Make it make sense.

@soahamtripathy2113

19 күн бұрын

@@marcbiengo george rr martin, the literal author has said that book canon and show canon are different. makes sense?

@gooby214

19 күн бұрын

@@marcbiengo The TV shows are just adaptation or even mere fanfics. Do NOT mix them together. Most book readers won't take you seriously for it.

@sumedh120

15 күн бұрын

@@gooby214 it's more like a theory than any explanation. The simple fact that fire and blood is presented to us as an account of westerosi historians and courtiers it's pretty much acceptable to have theories.

Rhaenyra: "He meant Aegon, THE CONQUEROR" Alicent: 👁👄👁 *_It was at this moment that she knew, she fucked up_*

Alicent ruined her children's lives. Aegon never wanted to be king but does Rhae think that he'd just give up on the throne now because of a "small" misunderstanding? This is not preventable.

I love the look on Alicent's face as it dawns on her how colossally she's fucked up.

There seems to be a mixed reaction to this scene but honestly I really like it. I believe that Rhaenyra someone that genuine cares for her family would try to overt war, and make a desperate gamble to prevent it from happening. Even doing risky back channel meetings for this to happen, like with the Cuban Missile crisis each side has weapons of mass destruction so going to extreme length to prevent a war is believable the difference both sides had people in power who wanted to avoid conflict. This scene confirms to her that both sides have been radicalized by the deaths and now there is no way all out war with dragons is avoidable. It also reaffirms that Viserys never lost faith in her and now she is not only fighting to claim her throne but to keep realm strong for the Song of Ice and Fire prophecy.

This scene reminds me of the Fox and the Hound, where Todd went to visit Copper to see if they could ever be friends even though he's a bloodhound. But Copper dismissed him, saying that those days are over and Todd must leave before his stepfather wakes up and found Todd.

The sad thing is that the truth didn't matter. Otto and his traitorous conspirators were resolved to usurp Rhaenyra and crown Aegon regardless of what was said that night or not.

Ramin Djawadi is awesome..

Rheanyra looks like the septa that totured cersei

The look of Alicent's face, she knows that she is wrong and also that Rhaenyra is right, Rhaenyra even tried to make her change her mind and help her, but it's too late for that...

2:08 The Wheel.

The music is soo damn good at the end of this scene ❤❤

@fernandocorona5411

19 күн бұрын

Annoying wailing lol

Rhaenyra - "Oh honey....you fucked up."

Alicent "it's out of my hands" Hightower.

I must say. Alicent performed her duties. Did everything she was told by Otto. She looked after Jaehaerys. Everything she got was by works. But she really fucked this up.

Allicent: *Surprised Pikachu face*

I NEED this ost

Episode 2, we got Parent Trap. In episode 3, we got Sister Act. Season 2 is giving us 90s comedy film references and I fucking love it.

While the scene may feel useless, it does go over a few things. One is that it cleans up a problem in many stories, that of a misunderstanding continuing to affect the story longer than it should. Another is that it opens up opportunities for development, especially for alicent. One of the craators said that this scene needed to be about people accepting truths, so maybe this will change some tides

Well… at least we can all agree the music is fantastic as always. Can’t wait for the release of a soundtrack album!

Considering how easy they sneak into kings landning, why not go for the head of the table?

@DoctorJohn_MD

18 күн бұрын

That's like saying "well we snuck into Washington DC, why not just get into the White House and kill the president?" Aegon is guarded by way, way more guards and is in a heavily fortified keep which is on high alert after a murder of the royal family. Alicent had left the keep to go pray. They're not the same level of difficulty

A esperança reacendendo nos olhos de Rhaenyra novamente quando a Alicent continuou sua fala sobre Viserys ter dito no leito de morte: "O príncipe que foi prometido..."

Yeah !!! That right, we need this talk in 4K

I hope Rhaenyra's ending will be different in HOTD🙏🏻😔🥺 I don't want her and Daemon to die💔🥀😭😢

@_antillas8674

19 күн бұрын

Well, they both get what they deserved.

The last moment where her entire compassion and desire for peace shuts off, leaving nothing but resolve and wrath is just wonderfully acted.

Just wanted to make sure I got all the lore right. Aegon, "the prince that was promised" and united the realms and in the song of fire and ice was never about Aegon the Conqueror right? It was Jon Snow wasn't it?

@jomene1125

19 күн бұрын

Yes, from what I've gathered so far

@Voidwurm1701

18 күн бұрын

No it was Arya.

@Hero_Of_Old

18 күн бұрын

​@@Voidwurm1701no it wasnt lmao

@Hero_Of_Old

18 күн бұрын

It was Aegon the Conqueror's prophecy, not about him.

bruh... this meeting could have been an e-mail by crow. Rhaenyra risking her life like this? really?

@TakiGamesOfficial

19 күн бұрын

Because the whole series of House of the Dragon revolves around the horrible miscommunication between the two families. So instead of more unintended bloodshed the two actual kind of sane people on each side had to meet face to face to hopefully clear things up. Obviously it’s too late though, Alicent has lost her power over anything and all the gears have already started moving.

@tatum635

19 күн бұрын

she explained in the episode why she went in person as opposed to sending a raven....

@AnnaBellaChannel

19 күн бұрын

@@TakiGamesOfficial It also gave Alicent and Rhaenyra a chance to talk and put all of their cards on the table to know what to do next and at this point it must needs be war.

@lodestar5626

19 күн бұрын

Well, nothing can penetrate plot armor, but yes, even if raven email or fax can't convey tone, a neutral parley still exists, so this was pretty unnecessarily risky for what R has already sacrificed.

@Taradhish

19 күн бұрын

Imagine complaining about something clearly explained in the episode. At this point it became a challenge to be the one who complains the most about anything.

What did Alicent mean by “There’s been no mistake” is she denying she fucked up and Rhaenyra is lying???

@reinhardtscheepers2349

19 күн бұрын

Alicent acknowledges she made a mistake but it’s too late know. She’s in too deep, children have died, she can’t call it off and admit her son isn’t really the king even if she wanted to. So you can rather see it as Alicent saying to Rhaenyra: “You are right, but forces are in motion now that we cannot undo. To admit I made a mistake would humiliate me. My grandson died because of me, if I admit to the mistake. The chips will have to fall where they must.”

@_antillas8674

19 күн бұрын

@@reinhardtscheepers2349So it was Alicent who killed her grandson?

@Voidwurm1701

18 күн бұрын

@@reinhardtscheepers2349 Tell me you're a biased 'Team Black' member trying to skew the neutral narrative in that direction without telling me.

They really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really want to make it clear to the audience that Rheanyra doesn't want a war, don't they?

@crystallxix1493

19 күн бұрын

It’s more about establishing that she now must go to war for a higher purpose

@zeno9103

19 күн бұрын

@@crystallxix1493 Right? Now she knows Alicent is a conniving b**h.

@johnwwan

19 күн бұрын

It also makes the relationship between Alicent and Rhaenyra more complex and tragic. It shows they know that this war and the end of their relationship is all based on a misunderstanding and not maliciousness.

@e-bo9115

19 күн бұрын

@@crystallxix1493 Higher purpose being "daddy wanted me to" and a Arya doing a sweet knife trick against the ice king?

@crystallxix1493

19 күн бұрын

@@e-bo9115 Yeah, fulfilling a century spanning prophecy, a much better justification than just “I’d like to kill more kids in vengeance”. If they follow the books she’s gonna go to many extremes so the justification is necessary

the soundtrack is so gooood omg❤

Other than Viserys entry into the thrown room, this is my favorite scene so far...

How could someone call this a filler scene? It's a powerful and important scene and one my favorites.

This is what happens when you recycle names 😂

Rhaenyra can waltz right into enemy territory and plot armor will protect her 😂. Unbelieveably stupid.

That time Alicent thought everything was alright until she realized it wasn't. Too late to turn back.

Alicent the muppet who never learned her new houses traditions.

Oh shit, I forgot the family I married into marries into itself for the sole purpose of prolonging a 200 year old prophecy. Dear god what have I done

Disney and Hollywood.. this is how you write strong women actors❤

Man I wish George RR Martin would live another 100 years to tell us the full history of Westeros. 😞

To quote another HBO show from the GOAT himself: "Don't matter who did that to who at this point. Fact is we went to war, and now there ain't no going back. I mean shit - it's what war is y'know? Once you in it, you IN it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight." Perfect summary of this. Once those flames are going, it's impossible to stop it.

outstanding acting!

Cinematic masterpiece.

"The Conqueror?" = "I may have messed up here" -Alicent

Too late it’s a war

@nathanielclaw2841

19 күн бұрын

it literally wouldnt have mattered. Otto and the council already had plans to replace him with Aegon, they just didnt tell Alicent. Only thing it would have changed is Alicent would be upset at him, but Otto would still put Aegon on the throne.

THE DISRESPECT TOWARDS DAENERYS

Olivia Cooke’s face acting is top tier.

Any one know the name of the song at the end of this scene?

There are people who have no idea how much weight this scene carries man. Rhaenyra knows now her side is completely justified , Alicent along with her father unfortunately started this Targaryen extinction man. It sucks

@_antillas8674

19 күн бұрын

Well, if not for them, the Targaryen extinction would have happened solely because of Rhaenyra.

@Voidwurm1701

18 күн бұрын

The Targaryens extincted themselves. They all got given nukes. It was going to happen at some point.

Remember when Arryk and Erryk were first introduced? Alicent mixed up their names.

somebody please tell me the name of the music

Rhaenyra said I want Aemond & I want to win this war. Here she is like a cry baby begging for peace.They destroyed what young Rhaenyra character was, she was ruthless, badass.

2:07 Lisan Al Gaib! 😂

Regardless, Otto would’ve conspired to put aegon on the throne anyway

I suspect deep down Alicent has always known she misheard or misinterpreted Viserys' dying words but was desperate to cling to power so made her wishes fit the narrative. Now she knows Rhaenyra knows what really went down and war is inevitable. It's gone too far for anything else now. Roll on The Dance of Dragons.

I see this as the turning point for Rhaenyra .. we will see new Rhaenyra after that confirmation that her father didn’t change his mind and wanted her to be the queen

Author of the channel, how can I contact you regarding cooperation????…… 😊😊😊

@Nihaaledits

19 күн бұрын

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@kiraaaa22

19 күн бұрын

@@Nihaaledits yeah ..

I know there is no turning back at this point in time too much blood and hatred has been spilled on both sides. But still I think Alicent should’ve done the right thing and let her side know the truth.. before it has fallen into much worse (like since when was Alicent such a arrogant and coward person)

All this so bran could rule in his effing wheelchair

Thus begins the dance of dragons

Honestly it does not matter what alicient did the moment she brought Otto back she lost all her power on the small council they were plotting to make aegon king no matter what viserys may or may not have said now aegon will not listen too her at all and the council basically ignores her she has no real power to make peace or continue the war her opinion does not matter I wish they made it more clear to rhaynera that no matter what alicient wants she cannot do anything also if Mysaria knows so much about alicients movements she probably knows about aemond going to the brothel if they had just killed him there the war would be over kind of a plot hole that they don't do anything about that.

@DrEternity42

19 күн бұрын

I believe that’s what she meant when she said that there was no mistake, her father and his allies had always planned on usurping Rhaeneyra for Aegon irregardless of Alicent’s support

@datgrrl5698

19 күн бұрын

FFS... punctuation is free, use it

Now with all this melodrama over, we can start with the carnage, the fire and blood if you will.

they really look like there young counterpart in The thumbnail

A dragon male layed with a she wolf and produced the prince that was promised. Aegon the 6th of his name. Jon snow. Lord commander of the nights watch, the white wolf. One who I would follow gladly.

All Alicent wanted was power and in the end will lose everything for that desire!

@kingjames846

19 күн бұрын

Why your guys hate so much alicent?? while Alicent take care of Viserys Rhenayra spent her time fucking first with Cole, then Lord Strong, then with her Uncle Daemon, sincerely Alicent apart from having misunderstood Viserys' words and having asked for an eye for an eye had not done anything wrong or bad, while Rhenayra even had 3 bastard children!

@Voidwurm1701

18 күн бұрын

I bet Alicent would've been Hitler's biggest fan also.

I'm not sure where you guys are seeing criticism of this episode but I've only been seeing people praise it, especially if you're a book reader as this scene isn't in the books at all (which is written kind of like a history book rather than a novel so these private conversations aren't in it)

"The c-co-conqueror" 😒

“The c..the conqueror…” Translation: “whoopsie 🤷‍♀️”

After this scene it is safe to say that people like Rhaenyra don't deserve friends like Alicent. Our actions (or inaction) have consequences. And when those consequences negatively affect other people, whether they are close to us or not, we have a moral obligation to do everything to prevent it or if it's "too late" to sacrifice everything in the attempt.

Ridiculous that rhanyera would sneak into kings landing like this ....for this. Especially after the twins situation.....meaning everyone would be on high alert at this time.. and not just sneaking into enemy territory for a conversation smh

@Hero_Of_Old

18 күн бұрын

Ehh its just near the docks, not the Red Keep.

@stiltmansstilt1014

18 күн бұрын

@@Hero_Of_Old it's literally the greens backyard. No one in there right mind would do that ....let alone basically the equivalent to the president..smh