When I first started learning Revit and kind of building my portfolio with it , I was definitely more inclined to the " by project " method as Yes it does make the perfect sense ! but then I started working in a firm where we would always do " by sheet " because of the reasons everyone here mentioned. most of all , contractors do panic when they see high revision on a drawing they have never seen before , and trust me you don't want to waste your breath on explaining how that came to be or how logical it is !

@ArchitectureVanguard

Жыл бұрын

No matter which way, it works. They are just different. I believe there is no wrong way, only a preferred way for everyone. My opinion seems to change a lot on this haha.

Great video, you got yourself a subscriber

@ArchitectureVanguard

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Awesome, thank you!

Working with our AEC business unit, they prefer per project, but in EPC, some disciplines will issue at different times, so we have to use per sheet. One discipline may be on Rev C, and one discipline may be at Rev A. I use alphanumeric as an example because any revision prior to "Issued for Construction" is always alphanumeric. IFC is Rev 0, and any change after IFC is numeric. I've been in the engineering field for 22 years, process, piping, structural, electrical etc. and I've never seen all drawings at the same revision throughout detail design. The Rev C or Rev 3 description may be different from drawing to drawing because the changes are different, and if there are gaps, the missing revisions are assumed to actually exist on that drawing somewhere, so it's seen as an error. Hope that makes sense.

@ArchitectureVanguard

Жыл бұрын

Ahhh I can see that being helpful. I will say it is nice that we have the flexibility to do it one way or another depending on the project.

Revision by sheet for me. I'm Old School.... back in the day when we revised drawings on drawing board's :-) Anyway, now that I kinda get the concept of Revision by Project, I'll probably give it go.

@ArchitectureVanguard

3 жыл бұрын

It is worth a shot, Steve. I said all that I did about about per project, and my firm uses per sheet haha. No problems either way, just preference.

very thanks ..

@ArchitectureVanguard

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you too!

When you are tracking Revisions Per Sheet, it only shows when a revision has been made on the sheet. When I see a revision in the title block, my first thought is to look for it. in our office, we issue Engineering Releases. They have a number associated to them but not all sheets are impacted. So showing revisions in the title block only if there was a change makes it easier to review the changes. The ER #X will all have the same date and only show on the sheet where a revision has occurred. You can from time to time have Multiple ER's release on the same day. These may or may not effect the same sheets, In the event that two ER's happen to revise the same sheet, you could have two clouds representing two separate changes with different Revision Numbers/Letters. Bottom line having the Revision Block of your title block show each "Revision" regardless of whether a change has occurred on sheet makes for unhappy contractors who would then have to waste time and money reviewing each sheet to find the changes. Yes, clouds do help but trying to find that one change that is kind of hidden or small is hard enough, use per sheet and all they have to do is look over the sheets that have the Revision in the title block.

@ArchitectureVanguard

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you David, fortunately Revit will only show a revision on the title block for that particular revision if a cloud for that revision appears on the sheet. Always interesting to hear how others work.

@johnwallace6497

2 жыл бұрын

@@ArchitectureVanguard Interesting (I might have this wrong, so please correct me), but if you have a scenario where a sheet (sheet 1) has to be revised and issued it goes out as Rev A. However, if I have to make a revision again to that sheet (sheet 1) and another sheet (sheet 2)....Sheet 1 will be Rev B and Sheet 2 will be Rev A(as its the first time its being revised). Am I correct in saying that if I was doing revisions "By Project" both sheets would be Rev B on the second issue whereas "by sheet" it will have the revision A & B depending on the sheet?

I personally set up a schedule within our Office Revit template file that will list each sheet in our working drawings set, along with columns that show each sheet's current revision number/letter, date and description. I use this to quickly see which sheet is under which revision. I find that the revisions lists get mucked up with other coworkers putting down 'issued for pricing', 'issued for client review', 'issued to my dogs for approval" etc. I find due to that fact that maintaining a clean number/lettering system (Example: Rev 5 = Revision 5 and so on) is very difficult and causes a lot of nitpicky Consultants/Contractors/Clients to throw their toys out of the pram when they see a sheet go from from Rev 1 to Rev 8 without anything in between. TLDR: Per sheet is the way to go. Come to peace to the fact that they wont be clean and hopefully my OCD wont protest too much.

@ArchitectureVanguard

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I understand. I enjoy seeing both sides of this. I do not go into the weeds of scheduling it all out like you but I can see why that might be the way to go for scheduling in that way.

Revisions per sheet because you get questions if there is a revision on a drawing with no chronologically sequentially revision. Just look at the date if you want to see wich sheets are in the same amendmentround. Use sequence and not revision parameter in your schedule so the shedule shows 1,2,3,4,5 and not A,B,C,D,E. And in the title block stamp you get revisions A,B,C ...

Is there a way to create a schedule that lists all the revisions that have been placed on sheets? For instance, if I have sheets numbered A101, A102, etc. and I want to create a schedule that lists all the revisions that have been applied to each sheet (for example - A101 has revisions #2, #5 & #8 and A102 has revisions #2, #4 & #6, etc.). It appears that it is only possible to list the current revision in a schedule? Is there a way to achieve this in Revit?

@ArchitectureVanguard

Жыл бұрын

That's kond of tough and I know what you are looking to do. I have always wanted to find a way to add comments to specific clouds so I could schedule that for a written narrative. I will let you know if I have specific luck with it.

Hi AV. As your name is AV, I assume you coming from the architecture discipline...same here. Doing per project is easy in Revit, but doing per sheet makes more sense, because when you issue, you issuing sheets, one does not re-issue the whole registry of drawings (does that make sense?). An example. The project is on Rev10. The first floor has not been revised until now. so it has had no revision. Now all of a sudden the contractor sees Rev10 for the first floor plan that has not been revised is going to freak out ( I am having that now). Also, you have sometimes hundreds of changes, to show Rev100 on a sheet that has not changed confuses people...just repeating my above statement....but I am hoping you get the point?? Thanks

@ArchitectureVanguard

2 жыл бұрын

Either way it can work but of course I see what you're saying. It is hard to say that one side is THE way which is because there are 2 ways to do it that work just fine. I was a little biased in the video but all my projects are per project and it all works just fine.

how to add revision description in revit sheet if the model is big and need to be zoned or divided into lets say 4 sheet and 2 sheet has the same rev cloud but the updated revision description should be presented in all sheet?

@ArchitectureVanguard

Жыл бұрын

It would work all the same using multiple clouds on multiple sheets. In the end they would all be directed at the same revision be it per project or per sheet.

@royalsprite189

Жыл бұрын

@@ArchitectureVanguard thanks

@ArchitectureVanguard

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No problem!