• The main advantage of playing on pad is that you can hold it behind your head whenever you’re feeling silly. • The main advantage of playing on stick is that you can lift it _by_ the joystick to show other people how you’re cool and don’t give a f***. • The main advantage of playing on leverless is that, if you’re ever at a tournament on a snowy mountainside and suddenly there’s a massive avalanche, you can use the controller as a makeshift snowboard and ride to safety. All great options, IMO.

@FOGSHIE

5 ай бұрын

I'm sorry but lifting your stick by the joystick is insane behavior

@_Jay_Maker_

5 ай бұрын

The main advantage of a joystick is that they tend to be heavy and you can use it for self defense. Obviously. It's why it's called an "arcade" stick. 😆

@TetraBui

5 ай бұрын

I genuinely prefer retro games on stick and more modern games on hitbox I have a hitbox already but I wanna grab a stick so I can switch between them for each game and sometimes even characters (istg Makoto 3s feels clunky on hitbox and I don’t know why)

@eyy_man1162

5 ай бұрын

Leverless is also good if like putting things away in bags :)

@twomillionbagels

5 ай бұрын

thank you, i'm sure i'll find one of these useful someday, even after i stop playing fighting games

After much thought, I think the DK Bongos might be the right controller for me. Thanks Stage Ham :) 👍

All new micros have PS5 native support since they upgraded their PCBs late last year!

@RossCourtright

5 ай бұрын

Came to say this, it’s what settled my decision to buy one as my daily driver leverless.

@euphzji

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, would be worth pinning this. It's what pushed me to go with my Snackbox a few months ago.

@joshez_

5 ай бұрын

yeah, although i think they also raised their price somewhat significantly when they did that. i grabbed one for like 300/350 if i remember correctly and the compat is great but it isn't quite the budget option that it used to be

@joshez_

5 ай бұрын

@@FiestaDeUnoyeah. If you buy an out of the box snack box today, it should have ps5 support

@anthonylowe8819

5 ай бұрын

Definitely placed an order because I found this out as well. It’s even better than it was before lol

Dear,Thank you so much for doing this! It's really a huge honor to us that you like our products❤

@TheJavimontoro

2 ай бұрын

Hey, I was a little bored of my hitbox, so just I bought a T13 from your store! it will arrive in 2 weeks (Im from Spain). Looking fordwar to it!!

As a person who mostly plays pad and stick, I got the Haute42 T16 a week ago and its really sick. Good option if you're interested in leverless and willing to spend not that much on one. The other Haute42 options are also cheaper than the T16.

@stone3016

5 ай бұрын

would it be okay if i bound multiple buttons to 8? what’re the rules on that

@destroyermaker

5 ай бұрын

I keep hearing it kinda pales in comparison to sanwa and the like, but it's not like sanwa buttons are 3x better than them so yeah good mid price option

@Dragontamer44

5 ай бұрын

got the T16 recently too, its surprising how cheap it is with its really good quality and firmware, i thought i was getting scammed but no its really a good leverless for people who don't wanna pay too much or live in the EU also buttons are easy to replace so general maintenance costs are pretty low, if you ever need it in the future

@sahkovalo

5 ай бұрын

Same, and it was pretty much the same price in Europe from Amazon (Branded as sehawei) when it has historically been hard to find affordable leverless controllers in EU. Really nice leverless especially for the price and the gp2040 configuration options are super handy.

@xooks3050

5 ай бұрын

Haute42 has to by far be the best on a budget. Got the G13 for like $40 and it feels closer to $60 or $70.

That button sound bit really lit up my neurons. So crispy

If you do already have a leverless with the types of switches the Snack Box Micro uses, I'd highly recommend trying out the pink, 25-gram switches. As long as you don't have problems with accidental inputs, the light switches really make it feel much more responsive. Plus, it's only a dollar per switch, so if you don't like it, you can put the default ones back on.

I got my first leverless controller yesterday, A Haute 42 G16. It is small but still comfortable, there is a learning curve but I already feel the potential. Great buy, fast shipping to the Netherlands (a week)

I really love my mavercade keebbrawler-01 modded with robin switches (most people would prefer the default red ones). I love the space it has for resting my hands and the layout of buttons. The huge jump button is much appreciated.

damn that midwest comment... my favorite part of my snackbox micro is it fits in my pocket/hoodie pouch lol

The button sounds on leverless controllers sound so nice.

I just got my snackbox micro the other day! Super excited to be learning it

@intellectic9155

5 ай бұрын

It's not going to help you. Way to waste all that money.

@brettdallman3885

5 ай бұрын

@@intellectic9155 I hope your day gets better

@theneonpython

4 ай бұрын

​@@intellectic9155youre poor

@trikronika

4 ай бұрын

@@intellectic9155why would you even say that?

@guutenks2498

4 ай бұрын

cause its true@@trikronika

I have 3 different Haute42 controllers. I love them all.

Just bought the razor whatever it’s called, and man it feels so flipping good! I’m 6’2” with big ole hands and it feels like the perfect size! Excited to get better with it!

I just recently ordered a custom leverless from Ultra Arcade in Europe. They're decently priced and let you make a good number of changes without charging you any extra. I made a goofy layout with 4 thumb buttons, so I can't wait for it to arrive!

@Fischonkel

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for this, I am from EU too and wanted to try leverless - but the majority of options I found were way too expensive. UA looks like a great way to get started!

Note from someone who uses the MPress: do not buy the first version mpress if you see a listing for it. the one that has a regular type c port soldered onto the board. the usb port is not very strong and liable to wear out and start dropping your connection frequently and it sucks. I had this happen to me and so I ended up having to replace the main board and the issue came back after a year or so. The MPress V2 and any of the special editions for events have all solved this problem and are great

I recently got the Haute Pad t16 and i must say I am impressed with the overall quality. The buttons feel nice and smooth. The fact that the RGB has a built in layout to mimic the SNK cabinets is pretty cool as well.

the more stripped down granola arcade model, the trailmix, is the one i got and its pretty solid! it's like $60, nice and small, a good starter controller to test whether you like leverless. battle beaver customs also makes a conversion kit that makes the ps4/ps5 dpads into individual buttons instead of a single pad inside which made my inputs much cleaner, great for when my wrists are getting sore from learning leverless.

My fiancé got me the Razer Kitsune as an early birthday gift recently, and it's honestly amazing! Plugged it up to my PC and it just worked out of the box; Didn't have to fiddle with Drivers or any Softwares. When not playing Fighting Games, I've been unironically using it for Fortnite Festival (that Guitar Hero/Rock Band gamemode). Haha.

I bought the Victrix around launch and it's been my daily for a year and change. The obvious con is the price, but a close second is the weight. Still, it has great lap feel and has worked as advertised since I received it. Since the firmware update last May/June we can now change between U+D=U and U+D=N by holding a button combo, which is nice.

@user-yd3tb8xk8w

5 ай бұрын

Additionally, I would much prefer a Snackbox Micro XL, but the buttons are spaced just a touch too far apart for my hands. Victrix is close to HitBox, iirc.

@danielcanavan-gosling5118

5 ай бұрын

Also love my Victrix, but yeah they’re pricey

I got the razer kitsune as my first fightpad and i absolutely love it, i plugged it into my ps5 and it instantly worked. Now i can throw supers around in the middle of my combos like nobodys business and ill never go back now.

I recently got the Victrix Pro FS-12 and I love it. It was a bit much cost wise but I figured if I was going to get one for my first one I was going to go all out on one. The only thing I disliked about it was how much of a pain it was to switch out the buttons but that was only a one time problem (hopefully). I like the weight of it I like feeling like it is not going to move around when I get a bit carried away hitting buttons. I will never go back to a stick it is so much more comfortable on my hands since I am a bit older now I feel it when I play on a stick for long hours at a time.

The kitsune is my first leverless and i'm happy with it. it really looks and feels like a "pc gaming" accessory more than like a specialized fighting game controller. i sit it on my desk and it matches everything else that's rolling with RGB.

@karmakillz4051

4 ай бұрын

You beat my ass years ago on MK never forgot. I added you on steam, and you told me about a book, playing to win by David Sirlin. I appreciate the games and the knowledge, hope youre doing well!

@minari8076

4 ай бұрын

agreed. just got my chun li kitsune after using snack box micro and default hitbox. all have been great but i love the kitsune.

@StevenPadilla

3 ай бұрын

@@minari8076 nice I got the cammy one and love it as well. Idk it just feels so good and comfortable to play with. No more thumb or wrist strains

Got the Haute T16. It's amazing for that price tag.

@SoyPopppy

4 ай бұрын

just ordered one a few days ago comments like yours made me buy one XD

Own the Kitsune and Micro, Kitsune for bigger hands and long playtime. Micro is Light and easy to carry, the LED can be annoying specially if you don't have a PC to change the settings. love both.

Another advantage i feel from playing on stick is that pressing multiple buttons at the same time, like RCs or Custom Combos, feels way easier and more natural than on pad

@MrSabnova3415

5 ай бұрын

Rc is literally one button on pad though?

@KetsubanSolo

4 ай бұрын

My fave go-to is Raiden in KOFXIII. He has a Dropkick special that requires you to charge it by holding down one of the kick buttons, which makes it really hard to do on pad but is trivial on fightstick

Got interested in getting a leverless, tried through keyboard and to me its definitely something i want to try more, only problem is how tight a keyboard is so definitely excited to get one to get access to arcade buttons so it feels better in my hands for my buttons

Thank goodness Haute42 is here, they're the people's champ putting out less than 100$ controllers out there.

@ChrisStoneinator

4 ай бұрын

Every SINGLE one of these should be under 100. The cases have no weight, no metal machining and there’s no lever. What the hell are you paying for?

@user-lu7np4cg1t

3 ай бұрын

Just ordered my first leverless and its a Haute42. I hope I can make the switch from arcade stick to leverless without too much pain. *Update* - only took a week to get fully used to it. Will never go back!

@718NecroLeX

2 ай бұрын

You're literally just paying for the parts, the shipping, the brand, and the firmware that allows ps5 functionality. That's why the ps5 hitbox is $100 more than the ps4 compatible one

Damn how far weve gone that hitbox was not even shown.

@xooks3050

5 ай бұрын

3 second mention 10:23

@julianmorgan79

5 ай бұрын

They priced themselves out the market.

@craptastrophe521

4 ай бұрын

It's funny that the inventors of the leverless also made the worst leverless

@eBaggy7

3 ай бұрын

​@@craptastrophe521 interestingly enough, that's extremely common. If you don't have a patent on something you "invented, " the likelihood that a competitor improves on the design or price point is pretty high.

Thank you Sajam I used this video to decide which one I should get. Got the Razer Kitsune because I value the official PS5 support and it looks like a nice large sturdy option. Pricy but I don't want my controller dying on me in tournament or disconnect woes. Cheers.

Would always love you Sajam

I got a TopStepGG Podium V2. Bulky box since it uses sanwa buttons, and for a bit extra you can get a Brook Fusion board and customizable art.

I mainly use a Jasenscustoms stick, which uses the same chassis as the leverless, and I like it a lot. It’s the right size and weight for me, and the aluminum accents let you make some neat color combos. It is _expensive_ though, and since the chassis is sized for levers it’s thicker than a leverless needs to be.

I've got the Haute42 t16 and it's incredibly comfortable. I do worry about taking it out since the plexi isn't super resilient, so I'd either get a smaller (cheaper) one or the metal option for tournaments

@Vespyr_

5 ай бұрын

Tournaments often seem to force lapplay for pools so I still recommend the T16. I'm just looking for a good case for it.

@TenjinZekken

5 ай бұрын

I ended up liking the Haute more than my snack box. The concave buttons weren't doing it for me, and I sorta liked having the whole button outside the enclosure compared to what was going on with the Snackbox. Something about the default setup of the Haute madeit way easier or me to it half circles without missing the last ring finger back input for some reason too. Just my personal experience with it.

@paztapas

5 ай бұрын

@@Vespyr_ if you find one let me know please!

@Vespyr_

5 ай бұрын

@@paztapas I got you. :)

@malcovich_games

5 ай бұрын

On the Haute controllers, can you map the M1 macro button to up? That's a deal maker for me, since I prefer WASD layout!

I travel full-time, just got into Tekken and I'm considering getting a tiny hitbox that I can fit in my luggage so this is very helpful. Thanks.

I’ve played on every type of controller. Leverless is by far the best for me. However I also do love playing with a fight stick as well

@bobbob-vw4cc

4 ай бұрын

I bet you like playing with that stick. *wink

God I love that evo artwork on the snackbox

I really like the Razer Kitsune. I started with the Victrix. I liked it. But it is big and heavy. Razer is smaller, thinner and lighter. The action buttons (k and p) are a bit bigger but they are quieter.

I got the Haute42 mini board, it's all keyboard keys. 35 bucks from amazon been loving it with tekken 8. Especially for that price. The portability with steam deck for lunch time in lab is phenomenal.

I'd say the two biggest things for leverless are knowing if you want keyboard switches or arcade buttons and form factor. If you don't know, go for switches, they can be replaced more easily with more options, in terms of size ask yourself if your cool with sitting exclusively with your legs together while you play.

@destroyermaker

5 ай бұрын

I want buttons but don't want to spend a fortune so I'm hoping switches are fine. The replacing thing depends - T16 haute for example has almost no options

@ZariLutus

5 ай бұрын

@@destroyermaker honestly main thing is just finding the right switches and button caps for you. I switched over to a snackbox micro from my fullsize snackbox for most things recently because its easier to just pull out on a whim when I want to play and with the right switches and convex button caps I was able to get it to a very similar feel to the arcade buttons on my full size. Main things you want to look out for are the switch type (clicky, tactile or linear) and the operating force (how much force is needed when pushing the button)

@destroyermaker

5 ай бұрын

Good to know thanks. I'm coming from hitbox/sanwa to Kailh Choc v2 switches@@ZariLutus. I hear they're not the best but I guess still plenty good value for the money

@KILLTHEREDDITOR

4 ай бұрын

@@ZariLutus Almost all leverless controllers have micro switches instead of normal keyboard switches, which means 90% of the switches you can find online will be incompatible.

It's cool to see your take on these devices!

personally i use keyboard

@P0rk_Sinigang

5 ай бұрын

I'm doing that too, but I'm worried that I'm gonna break it.

@michaeljesse5290

5 ай бұрын

that's how I started out, then I upgraded to a hitbox once I got comfortable with playing fighting games on a keyboard

@lucaslennan3356

5 ай бұрын

​@@michaeljesse5290I was the same but it was when I had the money that I switched.

@roscodogg1289

5 ай бұрын

Based

@s.b.e._9692

5 ай бұрын

Same, i broke my button so i play on keyboard

I bought a Haute42 T16 around 2 months ago. 80€ and this is my favorite despite having and RAP Hayabusa IV Switch/PC and a Qanba Crystal. But since I started playing Tekken I prefer stick over the T16 for it, so it's really up to preference depending on the game. Button press ASMR, my favorite!

I have a ScrubTier BentoBox v2. It's just one guy making them, but the built quality is amazing, and much higher than most of the other micro-brand leverless controllers I've used. It's also one of very few made in the UK. Great customer service too.

MPress and Razer Kitsune (since they updated it to allow SOCD changes) are my favorite leverless controllers.

I’m so Kitsune-pilled it’s crazy. Has my favorite buttons to press and feels great in my lap. But I definitely still take my Snackbox micro out for spins regularly as a backup/if I don’t plan on registering and just want something to have on me in case I play some friendlies.

A lot of these are very pricey outside of the US for shippong reasons, as someone from the UK, of you want one I could reccomend looking into either the okiboard from okiboard arcades (very similar to an mpress, uses brook boards so you can use built in ps5 compatible versions but need firmware, or use a converter.) or furin arcades for a very cuatomisable but pricier experience. (Edit: I only have used the okiboard but its very good, similar soze and weight to a laptop so reasonably portable, I like the buttons and it stays in place pretty well on my lap)

@TheCackling

5 ай бұрын

I got the Haute from aliexpress for £50. Arrived in under 2 weeks.

@birgerz360

5 ай бұрын

I second the okiboard been through quite a few tournaments with it and while yes it's fairly big it sits nicely on the lap and doesn't shift from the plexiglass bottom

@destroyermaker

5 ай бұрын

Haute42 has free shipping to canada fwiw

@veryDave

5 ай бұрын

I like my okiboard, with the caveat that it is the most insane fingerprint skin collecting monster of a peripheral I have ever owned That and I would not mind more responsive, shorter actuation lower force switches (or, one day, rapid trigger style things like from wooting)

@cooltwittertag

5 ай бұрын

Hautepads are really cheap in Europe at least, they are on Amazon too

The Kitsune now does have adjustable SOCD's. Nihongogamer has a video on it!

Furin arcade FRS is super nice and completely modular so you can alternate from stick to lever-less easy. A bit pricey but amazing build and great company. And Jony Fraze FTW customs are really nice too.

great video, enjoyed it fully. great opinions on controllers

So there is a Mixbox that I had my eye on For a while called the MojuBox. It's a 3d printed Modular Hybrid that let's you swap the stick for hitbox or Mixbox if you like Keyboard style too .

Keebrawler by mavercade in Canada goes pretty hard.

I started fighting games on the Mayflash F500 flat. I like it a lot as it's really easy to customize and replace parts. It's good, I like the buttons, software and the fact that the build looks like good quality. The only issue is that if one day I go to locals, I'll probably have to buy a thinner one. This thing is big

I have a Kitsune and I'm thoroughly amazed how quiet it is even though Razer doesn't advertise that as a feature.

Main reason i switched to box was portability of all things. I'm a college student on a pretty big campus. I got an mpress nano recently which has withstood being tossed in my backpack and going everywhere

The PXN N5 steering wheel dongle also works for GP2040 passthrough. They have the same authentication chip that the wingman and magicboots use

All fight sticks shoken star layout with a ufb is what ive been using for the past 5 years its been perfect

Getting a leverless is the best thing that has happened to my fighting gamer facet. It was really a gamechanger, a lifechanger: not only my wrists and thumb stop hurting, but my inputs got way more clear and I become able to do hard combos I have never dreamed of before. Pad is almost ok but never enough; stick was an awful, absolute waste of time, money and spirit; leverless transformed me in a true FGC tribe member.

@Mxdy_

3 ай бұрын

How is your experience with half circles once u got used to it ? I honestly feel like they’re easy once u get used to them. To what extent do u believe that half circles are better on stick?

@zachmoore1971

Ай бұрын

i personally found half circles easier on pad than stick or lever, until getting lever less and it's night and day to me

I have a Hitbox. It now has a converter that you can buy for PS5 play. Biggest drawback is the proprietary cord it uses. Might look into a different leverless simply for that fact. It does the job for now. I do like the beefy-ness of it although I had to switch the buttons out. They felt too soft for my tastes.

I have hitbox, snack box, and kitsune. I feel like the kitsune is the most comfortable to play in general. I agree with Sajam if you use any long enough you’ll get use to it so it’s not a big deal. My personal favorite is the kitsune, but in terms of practicality the snack box is good since it’s easy to replace parts. Razer does not sell parts, so you may have to contact support and work it out that way if something breaks. I hope they change that because it’s a bit frustrating.

sajam seems like he would be very understanding if i was accidentally fucking up his day

I recently got a leverless GameCube Controller from a company called Gram and the precision is unbelievable. And because of the firmware on the board, I can swap to keyboard or hit box modes very easily.

@ChrisStriker

3 ай бұрын

Leverless control for Gamecube?! I'm interested to see it because it's curious to see a leverless for Gamecube

@Str8EdgeJesse

3 ай бұрын

@ChrisStriker yeah!!! Smashbox, B0XX, Frame1, GRAM (the one I bought) and plenty more!! GRAM is currently celebrating 1 year anniversary and doing 20% site wide

@Str8EdgeJesse

3 ай бұрын

@ChrisStriker Yeah!! There are a bunch of them. SmashBox, B0XX, Frame1, GRAM ( the one I have) and a bunch more. GRAM is celebrating it's year so if you are in the market for one or their SLIM FGC( hitbox style leverless) it's worth looking at.

@ChrisStriker

3 ай бұрын

@@Str8EdgeJesse I need to see it, do you have the page to see it?

@Str8EdgeJesse

3 ай бұрын

@@ChrisStriker They are under GRAMControllers on the bird. You'll be able to find everything from there!

Tbh I have hand pain so playing on leverless boxes made of plastic or wood was making things worse so I had to switch to boxes made of paper as it gives a bit of amortisation

As a crusty old dude in his mid 40s I've started to notice over the past few years that my hands hurt a lot using controller for fighting games. I did a bunch of research and ended up building my own button box with the Brook PS4+ audio board. While I'm still old and crusty, I can now keep playing because leverless controllers are so damn comfortable. Once you get over the funky direction layout brain fuck it's actually really easy. But then again I play charge characters and as you say, the leverless makes buffering a dream.

@AziDoesQuestionableThings

2 ай бұрын

more power to ya mate

Sometimes which controller you prefer depends on character too. I find the mishimas way more comfortable on keyboard but still use pad for most other characters in Tekken

To cut down on hand sweat while using Razer Kitsune, I bought a skin for it and it helped a lot

@Mxdy_

3 ай бұрын

Can u link the site pls

I have been having a hard time getting one for my xbox lol. Thanks for the video I'll take a look at what you showed

@edxlee

3 ай бұрын

same no love for xbox, so I went with the Snackbox Micro and it's been awesome. Might get the XL chassis though, hard to play without a table

I got a Haute S13 because i didn't want to drop 200+ dollars on my first leverless. I played on it for the first time last night and it seems nice so far. The buttons are much quieter than my Qanba and sound like a mechanical keyboard. My only complaint so far is that it has no rubber feet on the bottom so it can slide around on a desk quite easily, but that's a very inexpensive problem to fix. It's also reasonably comfortable to play on my lap.

Come for the reviews, stay for ASMR

I use a squidbox micro, compatible on all consoles (I’m on PS5) and sturdy with the metal case. Razer was dragging their feet on releasing their officially licensed leverless.

Snackbox micro XL November 2023 was my first after using the gamo2 k28 keyboard

Did Junkfood discontinue their Snackbox V2 cases? I really loved those cases, but doesn't look like they sell them anymore from what I can see on their website :( Is there a similar manufacturer around?

Hearing you say that they're all good really helps. I feel much less compelled to spend a lot of money. $80 is an absolute steal.

Razer recently released the SOCD firmware they added 3 settings 4 if you count the PC exclusive no SOCD setting. They added down + up =up, last input priority, and first input priority. Those last two are def not tournament legal but it's kinda cool to see nonetheless

the razer kitsune now has adjustable socd in the latest firmware update btw

I use the T16, love it.

Sehawei is a great starting point for leverless controllers. 57 bucks for a snack box variation 76 bucks for a bigger variation Both acrylic both can have custom artwork. Picking one up myself and will compare it to my RAP4 shortly after.

I don't exactly have small hands, and I would definitely appreciate something that's supposed to sit still on my lap having some weight to it, so I think the MPress would be nice for me if I ever decided to take the dive and go to a tourney. As for PS5 compatibility, I'm not exactly afraid of tinkering with my tech, and the whole mid-tournament update thing isn't something I think would happen often. My only gripe is the lack of some kind of non-slip base, but it's nothing a rubber mat and some glue can't fix. The nice thing about these kinds of controllers are how easy they are to personalize, the overall shape is way simpler than your typical pad. The hardest part might be finding the right adhesive for the job. EDIT: I just got to the sound test and I like the MPress the best here too. It's perfect.

SnackBox Micro, first fighting controller at all, & I love it. I just wish it were heavier & the tiny buttons went down easier & were a bit larger.

@edxlee

3 ай бұрын

buy the metal plate for it, I'm considering doing the same and getting the XL chassis while I'm at it

I remember you destroying your hands a few years ago the first time you tried using leverless, did you have to adjust how you played on it or did you just power through it? I picked up the Snackbox recently and notice my hands/wrist gets sore relatively quick and I don't THINK I've got them too tense

Hey if you're experiencing hand pain, look into how pianists position their hands above their keys

"All of them have things that are easier or harder..." Thank you. So many people that don't own a leverless talk about it like it's a cheat code to execution.

I play all my fighting games on a gamecube controller I've had since 2004. So far only BBCF gives me hand pain

@deadfr0g

5 ай бұрын

That is CRAZY. Part of me wants to ask you a ton of questions about what your button configs have looked like for all the different FGs you’ve played, and part of me wants to pour vodka directly onto my eyeballs. You actually live up to your username, man. That is some really rock-and-roll s***.

@life-destiny1196

5 ай бұрын

As a guy who played smash for a decade: literally how?! impressive if you got anywhere doing that

Funny enough whenever I play strive or street fighter I prefer leverless. With my personal preference being the mpress due to the heft and size. I’d love to try the cross up. Especially for Tekken. Being able to switch to leverless on the fly. Would help for movement while on the other side

I have a 12 button mid size controller that I love, but I'm thinking about getting a 13 button one. In fighting games, up being at the bottom is fine but it other games, it can be confusing. Especially stuff where this a jump button AND you need to be pressing up on a regular basis (like a beat-em-up).

I have the Vitrix FS 12 I really like it I just wish it used regular sized buttons

Haute42 T13 & 16 owners, stupid question: Does the Mayflash or Brook adapter for PS5 need to remain plugged in to the side during all time while playing? Or does it only need to be plugged in when you’re connecting to your PS5?

I play on a Madcatz TE2+ with a leverless mod. Its great because i almost got DQed at EVO because I had a leverless controller.

Are most of the buttons on leverless controllers smaller than the standard arcade stick buttons?

Kitsune sounds and feels the best. They specialize in keys and keyboards. Its Amazing. Do not regret.

I was thinking about getting a lever less controller for a while but I didn't want to invest the money and end up not liking it. One day I saw a video where someone said that playing lever less is just keyboard with fewer keys. I said OK, bet. So I took out an old $30 mechanical keyboard I wasn't using. Took off all the key caps other than the ones I wanted to use and played SF6 with it. I loved it a lot. I used it for a while till I realized I wanted to go to some locals in my area but I wanted to make sure I could play with a controller I'm used to playing with. So I bought a snack box micro. The one that is usable with PS5 was a bit pricey for what I was looking to spend on a controller, but I did it anyway and I'm glade I did. I love this thing. I got the one where its clear and you can put any artwork in it. I just ordered a printout piece of 2XKO that I put together in photoshop. Cannot wait for that game. I do still have my Key board controller I rigged together if you want me to send you a pic of it.

How much quieter is the Kitsune? Looking for as silent an option as possible.

I play sf6 on keyboard and I use ASD Space and then UIO JKL 789 where 789 are the macros for throw, DR and DI (both lights, both mediums, both heavies). Is there an option that has the right hand buttons in a 3x3 arrangement like that?

Any suggestions for a leverless hit box that works with the Xbox series X? I have a victrix FS 12 that I was using with the wingman converter but it no longer works. I’d like one that is around the same size as the Victrix FS 12. Any help is appreciated, thank you.

Great review! EVERYONE is ignoring the HAUTE BOARD (NOT the mini version either!) If you by chance get one, could you please review it?

Mpress gamer here! I'd tried several all buttons prior but it was really a game changer for me. The larger buttons are just amazing. Something to note for anyone interested, the Evo Mpress is like, 2X heavier than other mpress models. I personally don't have a lot of issue with them sliding in my lap but the normal mpress's are like 6 lb and the evo has to be over 10 minimum.

Bro did not just said that the only peripheral where you can make 5 frames 720 motions is bad for half circles

I personally just bought a Kitsune because to fix my current stick I would need to spend the same price for it as all of the parts. I hope to replace the buttons on it with Keychron low profile switches.

@Ragnarok786

5 ай бұрын

Are those compatible with the Kitsune?

@urbncampr

5 ай бұрын

@@Ragnarok786 They are as long as you get the low profile switches. NihongoGamer has a video about the Kitsune where he does just that.

@Ragnarok786

5 ай бұрын

You’re the man! 🤘🏼

Just got the Haute42 M16 metal black, great build quality, and works perfectly. Worth the price. Especially as somene who wont really go to tournaments for now and just wanted a entry level controller.

Number one reason I don't want leverless is the weird ergonomics where the hands overlap. If it was just more spaced out then 100% I'd be interested. And yes, I'm aware you can "use both hands for special input tech" but I don't care about S-tier tech as much as I care about being comfortable for 2+ hours at a time. Like is there ANY leverless where they just put the left and right hand inputs farther apart? Please!?!!

@deathcare

4 ай бұрын

If you are sitting in a chair without armrests, the way you have to bend your arms inwards to rest on your lap make the slightly rotated inward button layout the most ergonomic since there is basically no devication, pronation, extension or flexion.

@TehThespian

4 ай бұрын

Theres several actually that feature more spaced out design. They are generally by custom builders so they are around the $160+ range.