Reviewing Dragon Ball Super's Best & Worst Animated Episode

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In the last edition of this series, we looked over Dragon Ball Z's best and worst animated episode. However today, let's look over its sequel, Dragon Ball Super, and go over the names of the talented animators behind it such as Ken Otsuka, Naotoshi Shida, Futoshi Higashide, and many more!
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  • @forgottenrelics1197
    @forgottenrelics11973 ай бұрын

    Update - 5:13 - 5:35 has just been confirmed to be the work of Toshiyuki Kanno by the director Nakamura himself 6:43 is someone else Tweet - twitter.com/ryotanakamura0/status/1773849854172860477

  • @j04370859
    @j043708592 жыл бұрын

    Fun fact, the worst looking episode of Z, GT, and Super, all have Frieza in it. 😆

  • @daykuohtwo8422

    @daykuohtwo8422

    2 жыл бұрын

    I guess Frieza's the director of those episodes lol

  • @Waqas_Khan02

    @Waqas_Khan02

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed freeza saga always had some bad animated episodes.

  • @j04370859

    @j04370859

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Waqas_Khan02 Only the one's, done by Yukio Ebisawa.

  • @Waqas_Khan02

    @Waqas_Khan02

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@j04370859 and masayuki uchiyama

  • @El_Mince

    @El_Mince

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Waqas_Khan02 Uchiyama episodes had some good animation from Shida and Ohara at least

  • @Rockden
    @Rockden2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, it's so refreshing to see someone who knows what he's talking about instead of a generic "dbs bad, dbz good"

  • @Kitsune986

    @Kitsune986

    2 жыл бұрын

    Something I genuinely struggle to understand is how people refuse to give credit where it's due. There's this """""review""""" of DBS: Broly on YT and the best thing he had to say about its animation was "It looks pretty good...but only sometimes." Then he proceeded to cherry pick screenshots from the fusion dance scene and showed zero actual animation from there or anywhere else IIRC. He did say he liked how the animation was more fluid than most of the anime, but you could tell he was essentially saying "It looks good by DBS standards." Then you get people to this day who are like "Not even the animators actually cared about the animation or tried to make it look good, lol!" I think that pisses me off more than anything because one, I feel like it should be common knowledge that DBS had a horrible schedule and they 100% did their absolute best and two, it's just insulting to any and all animators in general

  • @Rockden

    @Rockden

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Kitsune986 Unfortunately it seems not many people know about Super's schedule, they just look at the first arcs' animation and go "yeah, everything about Super is garbage, even tho I haven't actually seen it myself or done any research into it" Also, I have seen a lot of people around that for some reason, as you said, just wanna see pretty drawings, ignoring everything about animation; the same people that praise the anime adaptation of Record of Ragnarok, probably. I'm not trying to be rude to these people, you like what you like and everything is subjective, but PLEASE, don't talk about "bad animation" just because an anime has unique or streamlined art (I've seen this A LOT with Tate's fusion scene in Broly and Naruto vs. Pain in Shippuden)!

  • @Rockden

    @Rockden

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Ruldolphmaker Yes! He's awesome :) He's the reason I like anime animation so much! Everytime a new Super episode dropped I was hyped to watch his new breakdown lol

  • @TheeOneTheeOnli

    @TheeOneTheeOnli

    2 жыл бұрын

    When ever me and my friend talk about dragon ball my friend is like “ dbs animation is worse than dbza popo”

  • @SUNGJINWOOTHESHADOWMONARCH0

    @SUNGJINWOOTHESHADOWMONARCH0

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dragon ball in whole is the worst shonen

  • @Cbas619
    @Cbas6192 жыл бұрын

    I hope DBS comes back with a healthy production schedule. I wouldn't expect "sakuga" every episode but at least have the damn characters on model!!!

  • @IamJay02

    @IamJay02

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah people who complained about the animation were right about it being poor but some of them have went as far as saying they should be fired for it. They don't understand or don't care that dbs was incredibly rushed in the beginning.

  • @Prodigy396

    @Prodigy396

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why not expect that? It brings in billion+ a year.

  • @salvadorvega3805

    @salvadorvega3805

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm hoping that they reel in One Piece and give it a small break/hiatus and then DBS comes in with the same animation style as Wano.

  • @bootybandit9245

    @bootybandit9245

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@IamJay02 Lex???? Is that you??

  • @mnam5822

    @mnam5822

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Ka-Me-Ha-Me-Ha so u mean u want to see dragon with a darker theme ? that might be hard due to dragon ball story is now just trying to stay alive lol

  • @nobafan7515
    @nobafan75152 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad you addressed why ep 5 wouldn't be worst animated. Off model isn't the same as a lack of clear motion.

  • @over6124

    @over6124

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah i hate when people think bad animation is the same as off model,and sometimes u need off model for an animation to look smooth,this guy knows what he is talking about

  • @nobafan7515

    @nobafan7515

    Жыл бұрын

    @@over6124 not to mention that the circumstances were to blame, not the lack of effort in the case of ep 5.

  • @kbk489

    @kbk489

    Жыл бұрын

    they don't understand that random pictures of bad art doesn't make the animation bad

  • @mechajay3358
    @mechajay33582 жыл бұрын

    Dragon Ball Super managed to go from having some of the most poorly animated episodes in the beginning to having some of the best in the end of it's run is something to be respected.

  • @AngryMax

    @AngryMax

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@burst2_ jesus. chill tf out lmao

  • @Xeno574

    @Xeno574

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@burst2_ Typical Internet children complaining about the smallest of things

  • @mechajay3358

    @mechajay3358

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Xeno574 Yeah, all I said that it's something to be respected given what the staff went through at the beginning.

  • @heitorzincleiton5071

    @heitorzincleiton5071

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mechajay3358 what he said?

  • @CrossfireTheory

    @CrossfireTheory

    2 жыл бұрын

    Goku UI vs Kefla 🔥

  • @Milkra
    @Milkra Жыл бұрын

    It’s so refreshing to see someone who actually knows something about animation talk about animation

  • @jasonone8726
    @jasonone8726 Жыл бұрын

    2:58 I really wish they had kept the fire arena during the battle. It would've been a unique visual evironment.

  • @AChimp196

    @AChimp196

    Жыл бұрын

    True. It looks like they're in Hell.

  • @meherali2942
    @meherali29422 жыл бұрын

    Ebisawa always mad me mad when I was a kid as I didn't understand why the art style changes so much after an episode and my parents used to ask why am I sad or angry and I usually said you wont get it despite my father being an artist.

  • @forgottenrelics1197

    @forgottenrelics1197

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah haha I'll never forget when I was first watching Z and I came to Ebisawas section in ep 51 of when Vegeta was talking to the Namekians, I was so confused as to why the art style completely changed, now I know... Although he could draw some goofy expressions which always give me a laugh so I appreciate him for that lol.

  • @meherali2942

    @meherali2942

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@forgottenrelics1197 Same, now as a teen

  • @DeanAmx
    @DeanAmx2 жыл бұрын

    Whats weird is why they didnt just use keyframes from the movie. Boruto did that for the movie retelling in the series.

  • @forgottenrelics1197

    @forgottenrelics1197

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very odd indeed

  • @mechajay3358

    @mechajay3358

    2 жыл бұрын

    Demon Slayer also did with their recent tv series by using the animation from the movie. It would've made more sense the use it in Super given their poor scheduling.

  • @nicograms

    @nicograms

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mechajay3358 Demon Slayer is a different case. They simply played the movie divided into 6 episodes with a few new cuts and music.

  • @derock4art608

    @derock4art608

    2 жыл бұрын

    It would have fixed the production schedule at least a little bit. Strange eh!

  • @Yuricorru

    @Yuricorru

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nicograms not really there was a lot of redrawn frames and animations along with the new prequel episode. It just looked pretty similar to the movies’ animation which kinda says how great the animators are

  • @Esperanto2
    @Esperanto22 жыл бұрын

    13:45 Ain’t no way it was so bad freeza just slides in the air.

  • @masterkent1

    @masterkent1

    Жыл бұрын

    LMFAOOO I CANT UNSEE

  • @cyberdemon6517

    @cyberdemon6517

    3 ай бұрын

    actually hes not sliding hes standing on an invisible treadmill

  • @JuanFlores-gs7uu
    @JuanFlores-gs7uu2 жыл бұрын

    Episode 130 literally gives me chills. One of my favorite episodes in dragon ball as a whole

  • @xaviermartinez4872
    @xaviermartinez48722 жыл бұрын

    Remember kids. The worst part about super is actually just how bad the aura can be at times. STOP IT WITH ADOBE AFTER EFFECTS also that weird blur fuzzy effect they give some other things. Anyone remember how they blurred Shida's cut on Battle of Gods? Sad.

  • @mechajay3358

    @mechajay3358

    2 жыл бұрын

    I gotta agree, even though Goku vs Jiren fight was a amazing, they overdid it with the Aura.

  • @j04370859

    @j04370859

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agree about Super, but I don't remember it being a problem, in BOG.

  • @TonyTonyRedgrave

    @TonyTonyRedgrave

    10 ай бұрын

    The auras look horrible. Just about ruins even the best animated parts for me.

  • @hophoppington-hoppenhiemer2016
    @hophoppington-hoppenhiemer20162 жыл бұрын

    Good video, mad respect for including uncredited artists, supporting the unfortunately harassed staff of those early arcs and overall good flow and editing for the video.

  • @MissNorington
    @MissNorington2 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful work again! This is the best DB channel for me to date!

  • @The-Determined-Ninja
    @The-Determined-Ninja2 жыл бұрын

    Genuinely the breakdown providing the _proper_ understanding everyone needed, awesome job. ✨

  • @You-ev7kl
    @You-ev7kl2 жыл бұрын

    Before Super was made, I thought in my head that when it began, I expect to see nothing but near movie level production for this legendary series, because if any series deserves that, it's Super. I got bruh momented.

  • @aaryayt7747

    @aaryayt7747

    2 жыл бұрын

    The latest movies look sick!

  • @derek2288

    @derek2288

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sadly Toei is a bad studio, atleast the executives. Greedy asf

  • @jasonone8726

    @jasonone8726

    Жыл бұрын

    Sorry but that's a stupid thing to say. Super is a weekly series, you can't expect it to have movie level quality animation .Super will definitely have a more healthy production and look better than before, when it returns. But if you're expecting movie level quality, sorry but the disappointment is on you.

  • @sylasexd

    @sylasexd

    Жыл бұрын

    Imagine expecting movie quality from a weekly anime☠️

  • @xdrastig_4207

    @xdrastig_4207

    Жыл бұрын

    ​​​@@sylasexd Still isn't an excuse to turn 90% of its animation into shit and kill/change the artstyle of the series completely. If they already knew 90% of episodes will be subpar because of it being a weekly anime, just don't turn it into a weekly anime, simple as that, problem solved, only reason super got any streams is because it's dragonball related, unlike Z, if it was a stand-alone series it wouldn't live for long. Movies animation is what this series deserves since it's from arguably the most influential anime ever created, and, unlike Z, super didn't influence much

  • @bananavinegar6699
    @bananavinegar66992 жыл бұрын

    You know the animators slept when the animation is good

  • @nazarenomilohanich4883
    @nazarenomilohanich48832 жыл бұрын

    18:30 Damm, didn't knew Vegeta owned a whole ass bakery lmao. Jokes aside tho, I appreciate the bit at the beginning where you poke fun at those dumbasses who think is cool to go online and be an asshole to people who already have to deal with an incredibly exploitative and abusive industry. It's embarrasing people like this geniunely still exist, especially after all these years where the ugly side of the industry has been thoroughly documented and began to become more mainstream knowledge...

  • @IamJay02

    @IamJay02

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh my god finally someone who understands!!! I come across nothing but idiots who talk shit about the animators all the time. I feel horrible for them they're overworked and underpaid. It's saddening and gross.

  • @antoniosmith2610

    @antoniosmith2610

    2 жыл бұрын

    Finally someone who gets and understands Vegeta’s bakery

  • @Carnomus

    @Carnomus

    2 жыл бұрын

    Vegeta does have a whole ass bakery

  • @politedonut2637

    @politedonut2637

    8 ай бұрын

    He owns 2

  • @paintbrush3554
    @paintbrush35542 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always

  • @vegettoblack7852
    @vegettoblack78522 жыл бұрын

    Oh wow right after I posted my comment you reference the studio cockpit animation! Just found your channel but I love your commentary. 10/10

  • @dargossss
    @dargossss2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the review, I skipped most of what the TV anime did with the plot of the movies, so I didn't catch any of this mess lol. I also have to mention the improvement on your videos, and maybe your english? In your early work I had trouble understanding, but now, I can follow everything. Keep up the good work!

  • @forgottenrelics1197

    @forgottenrelics1197

    2 жыл бұрын

    You're a lucky man then haha and thanks! Over time I've tried to focus on pronouncing everything with less of an accent to be clearer, I've got used to recording that way now :)

  • @Blevin1080
    @Blevin10802 жыл бұрын

    Dude, you make great videos.

  • @yadatada5556
    @yadatada55562 жыл бұрын

    17:54 wow didn't know vegeta was from the same planet as Megamind.

  • @slifer875
    @slifer8752 жыл бұрын

    How about a Dragon ball GT best and worst animated episode in the future?

  • @ItsOver9000Productions

    @ItsOver9000Productions

    2 жыл бұрын

    there was animation in GT?

  • @slifer875

    @slifer875

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ItsOver9000Productions mostly better than the first three arcs of DBS, hell the direction in GT in some of the episodes its some of the best in the entire franchise. As for Animation look up the fights against baby, super 17 and some of the early episodes, especially the awakening of baby.

  • @forgottenrelics1197

    @forgottenrelics1197

    2 жыл бұрын

    GT was much less animated to both Z and Super so it makes it a little difficult. That doesn't mean it is absent of any well-animated scenes, but more so it's sporadic throughout an episode rather than anything consistent like episode 279 in Z or 130 in Super. The only action episode in GT that somewhat did was episode 24, although that's more so in the 2nd half. Episode 1 had some nice animation as well.

  • @geo-305

    @geo-305

    2 жыл бұрын

    So no one is gonna mention the fight with baby vegeta is was pretty cool

  • @falconboi9126

    @falconboi9126

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@forgottenrelics1197 there's always the option of doing a "best and worst animated scene in GT" or "most visually pleasing episode" though maybe with a slightly different name, just talking about direction and whatnot

  • @zombathinlostleghackercat5233
    @zombathinlostleghackercat52333 ай бұрын

    My favorite UI TOP moments are when Goku flies towards Jiren face to face in a bird pose, and when Goku backflips to dodge Jiren and he's hit with a barrage of high speed attacks even though Goku's not moving.

  • @Vespyr_
    @Vespyr_3 ай бұрын

    16:14 It's actually amazing how much better DBS looks without the highlighting making everyone look like they're made of plastic. It's soooo much better just for this small scene. I'd have taken the whole show like this.

  • @enigmadrath1780
    @enigmadrath17809 ай бұрын

    I don't think there's ever been a moment in history when the term "lazy animation" could be applied. Terrible animation can be blamed on a lot of things, and can be called a lot of things, but show me an animator who puts out bad work because they had SO MUCH time on their hands that they just lazily doodled something at a snail's pace and then just gave up because they couldn't be arsed anymore and handed it in. There's nothing lazy about being an animator :/

  • @jasonone8726

    @jasonone8726

    6 ай бұрын

    Reused animation is lazy.

  • @cpilfold420

    @cpilfold420

    2 ай бұрын

    Laziness exists in everything Doesn't seem you understand the meaning of the word and how universally applicable it is to any discipline.

  • @vegettoblack7852
    @vegettoblack78522 жыл бұрын

    Great analysis. Spot on. 130 is also my favorite animation in dbs. It's like when that fight with cell and goku was done by studio cockpit (I think it was them) and you could really see the drastic difference in quality. Not gonna lie though, as a kid it felt like that was the quality of animation for the entire series from that point on (but hey, I was a kid so give my nostalgia a break!)

  • @Cetra29

    @Cetra29

    Жыл бұрын

    .

  • @Gaming_Hub_UK
    @Gaming_Hub_UK2 жыл бұрын

    Great video and I really enjoy these animation break downs as for an artist like me it helps me understand more about the importance of shading and movements in characters when drawing. Also I really found this part hilarious when u said path the power from 1906 😂😂 12:53

  • @jaded9436
    @jaded94362 жыл бұрын

    No way, I was just looking through your videos a couple of days ago hoping to find this exact video

  • @3einEye
    @3einEye2 жыл бұрын

    I really feel like the auras do a disservice to the great artwork in episode 130, I would've preferred if they tone them down a bit.

  • @forgottenrelics1197

    @forgottenrelics1197

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah and the blur at times, still an improvement though from some of the earlier episodes.

  • @j04370859

    @j04370859

    2 жыл бұрын

    That was really an issue with that, when Vegeta new Blue form was shown, that hurt my eyes lol

  • @TazGaming141

    @TazGaming141

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@j04370859 ikr😅I have to dim my phone just to look at the form good

  • @m0002856

    @m0002856

    2 жыл бұрын

    Was gonna comment this same thing. The auras and whatever they use to make the characters look so damn shiny make things look so much worse.

  • @crystalbluepartain3434

    @crystalbluepartain3434

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@j04370859 what ive seen of the broly movie hurt my eyes because theres so many cuts a d flips spins shaking it honestly annoyed me a bit

  • @goncalobaia1574
    @goncalobaia157410 ай бұрын

    For me it was episode 122. I found myself pausing every half second just to look at the individual frames for being so good. More than the animation was the drawing itself, I only watched the whole show now and I was blown away, they actually got that rough perfection that seemed to be lost in the 90s. I also have to admire the "remake" of red SSG, even though it's the same, the fact that it looks serious as hell (the face and eyes) makes it feel really dope

  • @endlord_1.185
    @endlord_1.185 Жыл бұрын

    11:03 Beerus looks more like a dog with pointy ears than a cat in this shot lmao

  • @jasonone8726

    @jasonone8726

    Жыл бұрын

    So many of us were pointing that out at the time and said he looked like Scooby Doo. 😂

  • @shiny8454

    @shiny8454

    Ай бұрын

    "Whis! I require a Scooby Snack!"

  • @SuperArystoteles
    @SuperArystoteles Жыл бұрын

    Do not forget about first reveal of kaioken + ssj blue. That animation was sick!

  • @Kenpai_TDG
    @Kenpai_TDG2 жыл бұрын

    Yoo nice video dude! mind doing something like that in specific one piece arcs or whatever anime ? ^^

  • @SkyZer0
    @SkyZer02 жыл бұрын

    who needs Anime Ajay when we have this guy?

  • @turnerburger
    @turnerburger2 жыл бұрын

    Guess Frieza just attracts poor animation lol

  • @forgottenrelics1197

    @forgottenrelics1197

    2 жыл бұрын

    seems so rip

  • @BigLittleShark

    @BigLittleShark

    2 жыл бұрын

    I can’t remember what episode it is but 17 and Frieza vs Jiren has some absolutely amazing shots and animation too, so I don’t think this is entirely true.

  • @j04370859

    @j04370859

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BigLittleShark I don't think he was saying, every episode he's in, looks bad, of course, there were a number or great looking one's from Z, but Frieza does happen to be in the worst looking episode, from Z, GT and Super lol

  • @BigLittleShark

    @BigLittleShark

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@j04370859 true he's probably cursed

  • @kanyekubrick5391
    @kanyekubrick53912 жыл бұрын

    The one episode where Goku loses his powers due to overtraining, there’s a sequence where Goten lays on his lap. The animation was so bad that I almost quit watching the show.

  • @j04370859

    @j04370859

    2 жыл бұрын

    Art was bad, but that's my favourite filler episode of Super lol

  • @supermegadong7597

    @supermegadong7597

    Жыл бұрын

    Almost every scene with goten they ruin. Epsidoe 1 or 2 he falls off a cliff and it’s some how hyped to be scarred. BRO HE IS A SUPER SAYIAN

  • @Sydney-wi1ym

    @Sydney-wi1ym

    6 ай бұрын

    Well you want a cookie for that?

  • @kanyekubrick5391

    @kanyekubrick5391

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Sydney-wi1ym sure, that sounds great. I’d love one

  • @AlphaWasSpotted
    @AlphaWasSpotted2 жыл бұрын

    you would think animators would get great pay and treated better, bizzare how such an essential part of the process is so little compensated

  • @TheHaremReviewer
    @TheHaremReviewer2 жыл бұрын

    Would like to see you cover some animation from the original Z films

  • @specialnewb9821
    @specialnewb98212 жыл бұрын

    Heh, at this point the production notes probably say "Shida draws something awesome." Great break down of both episodes! Really love your analysis

  • @theultimateawesome5516
    @theultimateawesome55162 жыл бұрын

    Even episode 5 broadcast version I don’t know how people can compare the two. Ep 5 is better than episodes 24 and most of the ROF arc

  • @forgottenrelics1197

    @forgottenrelics1197

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same haha, I feel like part of the reason is that a decent amount of fans had stopped watching by then since it was another retelling or maybe skipped it altogether.

  • @mechajay3358

    @mechajay3358

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah at least with 5 there was actual animation, 24 barely had any of that.

  • @j04370859

    @j04370859

    2 жыл бұрын

    Episode 5, is when the production went downhill, so people remember that one the most, many were making videos on it, plus still to this day, I see still images from that Goku vs Beerus fight, on Instagram lol

  • @diddlenfiddle7311

    @diddlenfiddle7311

    2 жыл бұрын

    Internet rumour spread like wildfire. I bet alot of people to say ep5 is bad havn't even seen it.

  • @AnExstravagancy
    @AnExstravagancy2 жыл бұрын

    Im very glad that dbs animation and style gradually got better as the episodes went on, and even better when the broly movie came out, comes to show you what they are capable of with enough time and budget

  • @LowResCatExplosion
    @LowResCatExplosion Жыл бұрын

    11:04 Beerus looks like Scooby Doo wtf

  • @sonkun4157
    @sonkun41572 жыл бұрын

    Im confused on how you only have over 25k subs. I think i can objectively say you are the best dragon ball youtuber. The quality and effort you put into your videos are unmatched. You also never cut corners by posting clickbait videos or forcing videos about new content dragon ball just for views. You are a true warrior at heart. All that is not even to mention the fact that you shoutout small artists in your videos. Keep doing your thing, you are doing what you do in the most honest true passionate way possible, like a real man.

  • @forgottenrelics1197

    @forgottenrelics1197

    2 жыл бұрын

    I get a lot of supportive messages but this one really hit home. Even so, I personally don't see myself as the best, there is still a lot I would like to improve on, regardless if there are even a couple of people out there who feel that way about the channel, it makes me truly happy. Thank you for the encouragement.

  • @diddlenfiddle7311

    @diddlenfiddle7311

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think talking about in show stuff is more popular than out of show, which is a shame because now I find the process of how the show's made to be soo fascinating. So yea I don't think that number reflects lack of quality at all. Every one of these videos all seem really well made.

  • @sonkun4157

    @sonkun4157

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@forgottenrelics1197 Thank you for the content, im excited to keep watching in the future. Im not surprised you look at it that way because thats the right mindset to have. No doubt with the quality and depth you put into your videos, on top of your humbleness (which reminds me and other viewers of dragon ball in some ways) youll keep pushing and go way further than you already have, which is already very impressive.

  • @faustovii1085
    @faustovii1085 Жыл бұрын

    most of DB Super episodes until Black Goku Arc felt like a final project of a secondary school

  • @BIGFLEXX19
    @BIGFLEXX193 ай бұрын

    i really like sharp and triangular look the of dragon ball super that naotoshi shida did it makes the characters feel like there trying and i love that every thing feel more serious and aggressive with that style of drawing it's just tooo good

  • @BlueDINK7
    @BlueDINK7 Жыл бұрын

    People have zero empathy with art and artists, and lets not talk about animators... they are treated arguably like common definition of a slave most of the time in Japan, and even like that people still death threat them on twitter... while most of them dont even have a damn stable job and no need to have one someitmes even... no wonder why they have that much time to post shit on twitter.

  • @MinhLe19303
    @MinhLe193032 жыл бұрын

    It's insulting to to called that episode "Ebisawa-equivilent," because even his episode has more effort that shit. It's maddening why people still believe Ep.5 is worse.

  • @jasonone8726

    @jasonone8726

    Жыл бұрын

    Super was more watched in the very beginning, episode 5 was the start of the bad animation, that got a lot of attention and memes. By the time we got to that Frieza episode, I think a lot of people dropped the show, due to the animation, another movie retelling, plus how much worse the anime made ROF, with their changes. So it got far less hate than episode 5, despite looking much worse.

  • @forresthoulgrave1541
    @forresthoulgrave1541 Жыл бұрын

    Dude THANK YOU for choosing ep 24 for this conversation, the internet meme'd ep 5 to death but I always thought 24 was the lowest point for the series visually. Just so many bad keyframes with the stiffest animation in between

  • @darling..............

    @darling..............

    Жыл бұрын

    It makes borutos animation look godly,LIKE LOOK AT THAT SPIN THROW

  • @Milos15GameplaysYT
    @Milos15GameplaysYT2 жыл бұрын

    The thick lines do somewhat remind me of Seizo Toma. But I doubt he even worked on the episode uncredited as his next episode, after 4, was 33.

  • @daykuohtwo8422

    @daykuohtwo8422

    2 жыл бұрын

    It reminded me of his work too, but from what I remember his faces were quite narrow and characters had pointy ears

  • @Yuricorru
    @Yuricorru2 жыл бұрын

    I love this thank you a fellow understander that just like Z, Super has it’s low downs and mountain ups

  • @Galacticbluedesu
    @Galacticbluedesu2 жыл бұрын

    i would like naotoshi animate a sequence if there is at some point, of vegeta evading blast while holding bulma, that would look so sick

  • @pranshusrivastava8353
    @pranshusrivastava83532 жыл бұрын

    I'm just a bit sad you didn't choose the episode of Goku against K&C (Episode 114 as well as the one where vegeta vs jiren happened) as the best because Takahashi as the key animator was so on point in that one. The characters looked just brilliant.

  • @TruxySSJ

    @TruxySSJ

    Жыл бұрын

    Bruh That would be the best LOOKING chapter and not the best ANIMATED chapter Drawings ≠ Animation

  • @seankkg
    @seankkg Жыл бұрын

    I'd love to learn more about FMA animators.

  • @AsagiriGennn
    @AsagiriGennn2 жыл бұрын

    16:22 The scene with the thick lines might be Seizo Toma. He likes to use super thick lines.

  • @EDZEN94
    @EDZEN94 Жыл бұрын

    11:03 Ah yes, Lord Scooby Doo

  • @Action-Punk
    @Action-Punk2 жыл бұрын

    The thick line work for Goku vs Frieza correct me if I’m wrong but that could be Seizo Toma with the way the lines are drawn but if it isn’t, someone get the info to clear it up if you can, thanks for the video they did what they could with this crazy schedule, it’s a great insight.

  • @forgottenrelics1197

    @forgottenrelics1197

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I was wondering if it was Toma as well although I'm unsure if the rest of the features match up to his work. Would be great to find out who did it one day!

  • @devonmorris7052
    @devonmorris70522 жыл бұрын

    You should do the original dragon balls best and worst animated episodes

  • @SuperSamPam
    @SuperSamPam2 жыл бұрын

    R u gonna do animation analysis on the new DBSSH trailer?

  • @forgottenrelics1197

    @forgottenrelics1197

    2 жыл бұрын

    Probably :)

  • @TheGame4eva
    @TheGame4eva Жыл бұрын

    Super has, by the end, one of the best animations i ever seen, on par with the best animations i've seen on One Piece. A new anime with near flawless animation is Jujutsu Kaisen, almost everything about it is amazing

  • @Cloudx0x
    @Cloudx0x2 жыл бұрын

    Hey. It's me. The Ryo Onishi guy again. Tell me something, do you think super(when it comes back) will have a lot of Sakuga like One Piece does now? I think it will. I can't wait for this to happen.

  • @SuperMasterJefe
    @SuperMasterJefe2 жыл бұрын

    Tate and his team are my favorite animators. It kinda feels like the "more is less" thing toriyama follows. Less detail led to more dynamic action setting his team apart from the rest

  • @blackatem1174
    @blackatem11742 жыл бұрын

    The problem with protecting Super is. Super is 30 years after Z. DragonBall is presently one of the largest anime franchise effort. The budget should not have been this low. The release schedule should not have been rushed. You would think the world's most popular anime ever would look better than this especially the Godfather of action. Anime. Super got good in tournament of power. It's a billion dollar franchise. How did they release trash for almost 100 episodes

  • @derek2288

    @derek2288

    2 жыл бұрын

    We really should start blaming toei not the animators. Fucking greedy people

  • @darling..............

    @darling..............

    Жыл бұрын

    Even the top arc was trash,all of the tension literally becomes nonexistant when 17 just wishes them all back and the main "antagonist" is as compelling as a brick wall,and the way both piccolo and krillin get wasted is extremely sad when both had their own arc and moments before the top arc,and the only good episodes being when either goku and vegeta work togethor or when goku goes UI agaisnt jiren

  • @Sydney-wi1ym

    @Sydney-wi1ym

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@darling..............by that logic the cell, namek and buu saga have non-existent tension.

  • @AkatsukiClash
    @AkatsukiClash2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @sharperwhisper9752
    @sharperwhisper97522 жыл бұрын

    0:32 is the best part of the vid it was so funny XD

  • @catherinejaddii828
    @catherinejaddii8282 жыл бұрын

    I love it when people who claim to be "progressive" and "socialists" harass animators on Twitter who get paid slave wages. Like come on.

  • @KAKAR0110
    @KAKAR01102 жыл бұрын

    I wish that I go back in time to learn the db style in the 90’s

  • @dulguunshallot1018
    @dulguunshallot10182 жыл бұрын

    How can they not give enough time bugdet to the sequel of 1 of the most popular anime

  • @UnwantedGhost1
    @UnwantedGhost12 жыл бұрын

    When (or more likely if) the Dragonball anime return later on, the animation directors better not repeat Frieza one arm spinning Goku. I just can't bare another one. 😱

  • @clifton8566
    @clifton8566 Жыл бұрын

    the epsiode where vegeta and goku fought jiren in blue was also really good too. the episode where vegeta fired a final flash at jiren

  • @supersubatomicsonicgenerat4688
    @supersubatomicsonicgenerat46882 жыл бұрын

    Could you perhaps make a video on Tu Yong-Ce as I feel like not that many people Take about him besides from his work on One Piece

  • @treyvonishere4375
    @treyvonishere43753 ай бұрын

    I just wanna know why Toei wanted to start a new anime 3-4 months immediately after a movie and roughly a year and a half after the previous movie. Super coming out in 2016 would’ve saved a bit more in the quality assuming they still wanted all that merch money. Also making it’s two first arcs recaps and drawn out versions of movies we had just gotten is really odd to me but at this point it’s not uncommon for the franchise.

  • @forgottenrelics1197

    @forgottenrelics1197

    3 ай бұрын

    Part of the reason was to keep Dragon Ball Kai's timeslot which finished up the week before Supers first episode aired. So releasing in 2016 would've taken that away. There's also the marketing/promotion tie in of dropping a new movie around the same time a new DB series has started. But personally like any other fan I would've much preferred for it to have released at a later date.

  • @aagamer43
    @aagamer432 жыл бұрын

    Ngl the dream db show is shida animation with Takahashi Character designs

  • @TheSoulExplorer

    @TheSoulExplorer

    2 жыл бұрын

    I love Takahashi but I prefer the Shintani style to be honest. Takahashi is a throwback to the good Yamamuro days and I think that Dragon Ball needs something new. Not to mention that Shida's level of animation is easier to pull of with simplistic designs.

  • @j04370859

    @j04370859

    2 жыл бұрын

    @TheSoulExplorer I mean, the Yamamuro era in Z, was probably the peak of DB art, also the most iconic, his style is always replicated, when fans draw DB, it's hard not to want that back, for the series as a whole, but I can appreciate change.

  • @TheSoulExplorer

    @TheSoulExplorer

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@j04370859 That's the thing, it is overdone. A new style would be a much needed change.

  • @goldman77700

    @goldman77700

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheSoulExplorer I prefer Yamamuro design vastly but yeah Shintani is the best "redesign" I've seen in anime ever. I hope it stays.

  • @pillow1557
    @pillow15572 жыл бұрын

    Animating is very hard,I tried to Animate 7-8 seconds animation,it took me 4 hours..and I feel them Also sometimes it makes me sad that some nature background is only shown for some seconds like they spend lots of time on that background just to be shown for some seconds..

  • @jumpfold
    @jumpfold Жыл бұрын

    Appreciate the animators they deserve respect.

  • @defaultname7685

    @defaultname7685

    Жыл бұрын

    Eh

  • @Unethical.Dodgson
    @Unethical.Dodgson2 жыл бұрын

    "Hai-deki Heero Sheemah" I've forgiven a lot of pronunciation mistakes thus far but this one was unforgivable.

  • @wont0repeat446
    @wont0repeat4462 жыл бұрын

    Wow man you know shit..gotta hit a like. And yeah. I’m tired of people saying dbs is trash and a embrassemnt to z

  • @isaacnewtb
    @isaacnewtb2 жыл бұрын

    What did you think of the animation quality in the new super hero trailer? I think it has shown some nice improvements and I'm definitely more excited for the fights in there despite the cg

  • @jangofett7593

    @jangofett7593

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think they are trying to do something new with the cgi that they hope people who watch Dragon Ball would like better, I still prefer the old animations but their intention was surely good

  • @kytsunee6324

    @kytsunee6324

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jangofett7593 It’s mostly a passion project where Toriyama wanted to do something unique and that’s nice, but I doubt it’s going to be the series’ style going forward. Hopefully, they will choose Shintano instead of Yamamuro as the animation director and character designer for the next cour of Dragon Ball Super. I feel like his style can definitely serve the series well, if paired with what we could at least consider a decent production schedule, of course.

  • @jangofett7593

    @jangofett7593

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kytsunee6324 Yeah the CGI is probably only for this movie. I like Yamamuro's animation style a bit more than Shintani's personally, but it doesn't really matter aslong as it's one of them I am fine with it, both of them showed us how good they are when executed well.

  • @crystalbluepartain3434

    @crystalbluepartain3434

    2 жыл бұрын

    its definitely better then most cgi anime in my opinion but at times it also looks kinda bad. some of it look really good but i definitely prefer hand drawn

  • @crystalbluepartain3434

    @crystalbluepartain3434

    2 жыл бұрын

    not that i know anything about animation tbh

  • @CatOcatastrophe
    @CatOcatastrophe2 жыл бұрын

    Imagine if the animators time traveled back to the start of the series. Just how much more cooler it would look when it caught up to the last season, hehe. Edit, gotta say, the Majin Buu animation style of Goku n Vegeta has to be my top fav.

  • @COOLSKALLYWAG
    @COOLSKALLYWAG Жыл бұрын

    can you do movies next or did you already do that ?

  • @ultraplayer4594
    @ultraplayer4594 Жыл бұрын

    Bro 130 was so hype

  • @BakenReel
    @BakenReel2 жыл бұрын

    Vegeta, The Prince of McDonalds' 17:53

  • @boyanraynov5960
    @boyanraynov59602 жыл бұрын

    You should do a movie review of dbz

  • @jnascimento7023
    @jnascimento70232 жыл бұрын

    one thing that i always critique about dbs in its first episodes was how they made 3 shades in the hair especially goku maybe its just me but this use of 3 grade shading is just unappealing and over the necessary amount although they did remove that on the newer material ( with the exception of heroes-the game promo anime) and its honestly far better than the yamamuro current plastic pallete color style

  • @Waqas_Khan02

    @Waqas_Khan02

    2 жыл бұрын

    agreed I personally perfer no shade or 1 shade when the character has black hair. 2 or 3 shade look good in different hair colour.

  • @Texshy
    @Texshy2 жыл бұрын

    I skipped the first 2 arcs to get to the stuff that wasn't retelling the movies. So I missed a lot of the terrible animation.

  • @forgottenrelics1197

    @forgottenrelics1197

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I think a lot of people did lol

  • @j04370859

    @j04370859

    2 жыл бұрын

    The first 3 episodes looked nice though and don't skip the one with Vegeta spending a vacation with his family.

  • @waspywasp451

    @waspywasp451

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@j04370859 I think Battle of God's anime retelling had a decent argument to not be skipped, but, bar one episode on Beerus' planet, Frieza's arc is entirely skippable tbh

  • @1Soltis
    @1Soltis2 ай бұрын

    Nice but why would you have this purple background and not the video full screen…? Watching on my phone btw

  • @yussefcheaitou
    @yussefcheaitou3 ай бұрын

    I could sense the difference when I viewed ep. 130, the animation was so good in comparison to all I had seen in the rest of the anime. Vegito's appearance also had some good animation.

  • @jasonone8726

    @jasonone8726

    3 ай бұрын

    Those last 3 episodes of Super looked great.

  • @enricotucci
    @enricotucci2 жыл бұрын

    I just feel like super's animation has a few things that bother me, especially the ki blasts and the terrain, i mean i know they can't make each episode like the broly movie, but i guess i prefer the dbz old style

  • @jasonone8726

    @jasonone8726

    Жыл бұрын

    Well you watched the video, Super had a lousy production schedule, it's not because you prefer how Z looked.

  • @AkatsukiClash
    @AkatsukiClash2 жыл бұрын

    Dude, I cant even tell if youre trying to be funny, but youre FUNNY! 🤣

  • @geetesh_10
    @geetesh_102 жыл бұрын

    Want a og dragon ball one next time

  • @Apsolon
    @Apsolon Жыл бұрын

    Harassing peoples on twitter. Truly an America moments.

  • @mbappiani5809
    @mbappiani58092 жыл бұрын

    It would be cool if you do this with Naruto

  • @redheadmonke
    @redheadmonke2 жыл бұрын

    I liked the T.O.P/Universe Survival Saga in DBS. It looked nice visuals wise.

  • @IIIISai
    @IIIISai2 жыл бұрын

    6:18 Ikr the slim Mui looks sick, it's sad though besides these few scenes most people look at the bulky mui in the other scenes and say it looks trash 🤧, Slim Mui in the anime, and in the manga Heat

  • @j04370859

    @j04370859

    2 жыл бұрын

    Who says that? Most people, prefer the bulk.

  • @IIIISai

    @IIIISai

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@j04370859 No most people prefer the slim, How do u never see the hate anime Mui gets, it's alot, the reason is because of the bulk

  • @j04370859

    @j04370859

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@IIIISai I haven't seen anyone say that, wherever you're reading that from, it's just a minority. One of the critiques about DBS, is how slim the characters look now, everyone misses when the characters, looked more bulky, I don't know why anyone would complain about this.

  • @IIIISai

    @IIIISai

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@j04370859 I get what you're saying and it's true, but believe me when i talk about mui, If you ask anyone they trash on anime mui, but love manga, reason is literally because he's not slim

  • @j04370859

    @j04370859

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@IIIISai But he is slim, in the manga, much slimmer than the anime.

  • @spoonybard13
    @spoonybard133 ай бұрын

    I'm tempted to say that Akira Kano's style is the 3-tone shading heavy one that pops up more in the second half of Ep 24. It's more polished-looking than Kitano's but still very noticeably off-model, and it seems like Frieza's the one who escaped chief supervisor corrections on Kano's part. Maybe that's just a 2nd KA's art style, but considering that Frieza looks consistently off-model in the last few minutes of the episode, I'm tempted to say that's Kano's style.

  • @jaychris4192
    @jaychris41922 жыл бұрын

    I'd say ep 129 was supers best animated episode but that's just me. Great video like usual, always enjoy your content.

  • @skealla5372

    @skealla5372

    2 жыл бұрын

    129? Isn't it the episode with a lot of reused animation lol

  • @jaychris4192

    @jaychris4192

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@skealla5372 I mean yeah there was good bit of reused animation but it looked good every time and Karasawa's section was extremely well done. I also enjoyed the storyboarding.

  • @IamJay02

    @IamJay02

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jaychris4192 130 was full of intense action and incredible movement and animation. Especially shidas section in the end of the episode.

  • @jaychris4192

    @jaychris4192

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@IamJay02 it's just my opinion I prefer 129 over 130. Probably because I prefer ui omen over mui

  • @IamJay02

    @IamJay02

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jaychris4192 I mean yeah that's fair he looks really cool lol I'm just annoyed they had to reuse so many scenes in that episode

  • @joshuasmith4643
    @joshuasmith4643 Жыл бұрын

    They honestly shouldn't have made super with two of the four arcs being movies, and just delayed the release with only having future and TOP arcs being high end animated, because boi was early super rough.

  • @nyalter5511
    @nyalter55112 жыл бұрын

    its kind of impressive you can t ell who animated wich frame by their style a lot of the time

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