Tim. Thanks for your observations. You installed a 2d keyed switch. What items / areas does the original switch turn off & what additional items does the 2d switch disconnect? What advantage(s) do you experience with this mod of the original design? One more question, if I may. Has PEBL installed any front area, behind the body, "bumper" to the main frame? Originally, the nose of the body shell has been secured only by the two screws there in the center of the front frame. It does work & keeps the weight down. Just curious because you were talking about recent changes & front-end impacts do happen. 8^)

Where can I find that head rest?

Very cool. I am looking for an electric bike to do a cross country tour in. I was looking at regular 2 wheeled electric bikes towing a trailer with a solar panel...but then I saw this and thought....hmmm 🤔. That’s interesting. I also saw the ELF which looks similar. But the PEBL seems to be more fully featured. I wonder what the range would be fully loaded with touring gear. And how long it takes to charge the battery thru solar.

@TheGypsyHook

3 жыл бұрын

Nice intro. Like Bike Tall, a cross country intriques me. I notice you skipped the solar roof panel. Any reason, other than the added battery's offer enough range to rely on being able to plug in somewhere?

Oops... a chassis is the frame. The body shell is fiberglass.

Hi Tim, what is the longest commute you would undertake on your PEBL in winter? I'm in Eastern Ontario, and drive 50 km to work (each way), and am relatively fit. Wondering if this would be a workable option (in your opinion). Thanks!

Hello Tim is safe to drive in a thunderstorm & has it got room for a four wheel walker in it too

I was wondering the size of the size of the better.bike logos on front, sides and back and general size of the sides of the sides below the windows behind the doors like 12"×12" H x W space ? And the back hatch logo where it says PEBL? Maybe size of the back window as well? And width of windshield? I'm considering getting a pebl soon and want to advertise on it .

Thanks for the video, love it.

Hey Tim. Thanks for the vid. I'm wondering about the frame...do you have any info on that? Is there some kind of roll protection? I'm in Sudbury - do you ride in the winter?

@timhellsten

3 жыл бұрын

Sylvain Grenier no roll protection. Other then common sense. Don’t take corners at full speed and sharp. I have never had an issue with tipping. At all. Remember it’s a bike and not a high performance car and you will be fine. In so far as winter. Yes. I tied till it’s -10 out. Handles good. You can buy winter tires. As well.

@timhellsten

9 ай бұрын

I ride a little bit in the winter. Not much because I'm not so much worried about me. I'm more worried about somebody else hitting me. The frame is Very sturdy

Hey Tim, Why did you go with the maxxis hookworm tire? I got the 3" tire and there has been serious wear in the center of the tire after about 550 miles.

@popeyegordon

4 жыл бұрын

You over inflated them.

Is it available in India,?

They're redoing the entire bike this year I wonder if you would do review on it

@timhellsten

9 ай бұрын

I would love to review it but unfortunately I think they're new version has hit a lot of snags. They've been moving it around from place to place. It's started out being built-in Germany now. It's built somewhere else now nobody's building it. They've had lots of problems. It's been a few years for them. And I think it's basically vaporiwear.

Nice video, how fast can it go on battery, what type of motor does it use. i know its top speed is about 20-30 km/h. Can i replace the motor with a 60-70km\h because going with 20km/h its a pain man

@timhellsten

3 жыл бұрын

Bonginkosi Motloung can’t really advise you about breaking the law. I will say mine is far from stock I get about 70 k on the batteries. I have the 100 mile battery setup. But remember mine is nowhere near stock so hence the distance reduction Uses a BLDC motor. For now

Hello Tim, thank you for your video. I just seen one of these the other day as I was leaving Best Buy on my ebike. I live in Winnipeg where i started winter commuting in 2020. We are a very snowy & -20c climate from Dec-Mar. I was wanting to upgrade to a 3 wheeler as snow over ice is too slippery. I don’t have a garage but plan to get a big shed(then take the battery inside to work/home). Having no garage, would you recommend the Peble for my climate? Battery hard to remove? Also do u worry about theft when in public? Thanks!

@timhellsten

Жыл бұрын

Well, if you saw one at Best Buy in Winnipeg, that’s mine that was me. I was probably at Best Buy as well. there’s only one in Winnipeg and it’s mine as far as riding in the cold climate I don’t take it out in the winter it can probably handle it but the batteries are large they don’t come out easily, so pulling them out every time I go in somewhere it would be not good. I am as well I’m getting an E bike to ride in the winter unfortunately I don’t think the pebble would be very good in the sense that if there was ever an opportunity for it to break down, then it’s something that because it weighs so much you may not want to be peddling that home in the snow noting that the pebble weighs about 250 pounds

@timhellsten

9 ай бұрын

If you saw one in Winnipeg, that was me, I'm the only 1 with A. pebl here

Hi, you sd yr from Canada. May I ask what u paid for that bike? Can u drive it in the winter. Thanks

@timhellsten

3 жыл бұрын

doves1 Pellegrino hello. I was part of the Kickstarter so the price I paid is nowhere near what they are asking for it now. As far as winter driving. It is fine. Been out in -8. To -10. And was fine inside with the doors closed. Was actually warm once you get peddling

Can you put a trailer behind it and what are the specs on the motor

@popeyegordon

3 жыл бұрын

PEBL was outsourced to Germany during the pandemic. It will undergo a redesign. The original was too heavy.

Hello Tim when will the pebl be available in the UK please

@timhellsten

Жыл бұрын

I am unsure when they would be available in the UK the new version of the pebble is being made in Germany apparently so obviously that’s a lot closer so there might be an opportunity there to purchase I know they moved their operations to Europe for building I guess to tap into the more excepting European market In Canada here the Velo, mobile is more of a concept not as accepted, but in Europe I hear they’re pretty big there so there’s lots of opportunity there

Hello there iis it safe to drive to drive in thunderstorms & does it have room for a four wheel walker in it from Rachel

@timhellsten

Жыл бұрын

Well, I have written it in many times in Winnipeg in severe thunderstorms, I have had no problems obviously, if cars pass you and kick up a bunch of water, visibility becomes an issue but if it’s not bad, I just pull over and wait for half an hour until the weather starts to subside and then I drive. As far as a walker would go I would think you would have room in the back I can take three big Supervalu containers and put them in one on the seat and two in the back so I would think he would be able to put a walker if it fold it up into the box somehow. The other option would be to make some sort of a bracket for the top and just put your walker on the top and strap it down

Floor, wood dash board, shell liner, rear suspension and most of all the choice of a heavy fiberglass body doomed the PEBL to a serious problem of being over weight. This is why the illegal 1500 watt 'off road' switch was added. There is a loyal following despite that but if you want to travel long distances a used ELF is better, having proved its worth with three 4000 mile journeys. One owner wrote a book about her journey, one made a movie available here at KZread.

Couldnt see well in the video, but does this include solar panel roof?

@Bahrta_sai

4 жыл бұрын

It's included with the ECO version which costs over $11,000.

@popeyegordon

3 жыл бұрын

No longer sold. PEBL was outsourced to Germany during the pandemic. It will undergo a redesign. The original was too heavy.

I wanna own one like this pebl bike but i wanna have 1 more passenger a human being passenger seat with me! How can you upgrade a pebl bike with a passengers with you? Thank you & take care. Nice video clip with explanations! Thank you

@popeyegordon

2 жыл бұрын

The PEBL already does have room for a passenger. But they went out of business.

I want to buy this from you?

I like that it has a floor,. Does it have regenerative braking ? You have to come out of La La Land with these products ,,, have to drive it on the street and see how it operates

@timhellsten

3 жыл бұрын

ReCycle Spinning yes. Has regen breaking. It is quite the pleasure to drive. To be honest

@recyclespinning9839

3 жыл бұрын

@@timhellsten I wish more people would start using these locally , I have several bikes and try to bike to work when I can , if my job is set up as I do home remodeling .. I saw one on you tube with no floor. Looked like if your feet slipped off the pedals you could really damage you feet if got wedged between the ground and frame . this looks much better designed and possibly would work in cold climate. I am of the mind frame that cars are going to destroy the earth , along with the other useless products we make that use gas and diesel

@popeyegordon

3 жыл бұрын

@@recyclespinning9839 No. The PEBL was fatally over weight at 230 pounds - had too many car-like features. Full floor is a bad idea - you over heat in that small space. PEBL owners reported over heating and window fogging even in winter with their coats off. PEBL was outsourced to Germany during the pandemic. It will undergo a redesign. The original was too heavy for the legal motor wattage limits. No fun to pedal.

Price....

Good vid Hows it been holding up to the salt on the road. Cheers from Toronto.

@popeyegordon

3 жыл бұрын

PEBL was outsourced to Germany during the pandemic. It will undergo a redesign. The original was too heavy.

@patrickmckowen2999

3 жыл бұрын

@@popeyegordon Do you mean they sold it to a German company?

@popeyegordon

3 жыл бұрын

@@patrickmckowen2999 Yes, that is the info I have from a Facebook group page. They had too many issues between the pandemic and the over weight body shell. They were packing everything up in shipping containers to send to Germany last I heard. I heard outsourced, not sold.

@patrickmckowen2999

3 жыл бұрын

@@popeyegordon I imagine that will up the cost somewhat. I wish them all the best. Cheers

always prefer the Pebl over Elf, curious what your thoughts are after 3 years as far as reliability, maintenance, recharge time, etc. We too, are interested in the 100 mile Pebl, we will use it to tour.

@timhellsten

9 ай бұрын

I've had the bike now for 6 years and still going strong on the original batteries. Still in very good condition, still very Nice to ride. As far as maintenance, it's basically just been what you do with the regular bicycle, keep the chain clean. Check everything once in a while. Keep the tires In good condition.

@codak29

7 ай бұрын

@@timhellsten That's pretty good. I just did some back of the napkin math and the Pebl should pay for itself (vs a normal car's gas and insurance) after 5 years.

how much does it cost, I am from winnipeg also

@timhellsten

5 жыл бұрын

loking9ful check out www.better.bike to configure and get the price.

Do you still own this PEBL? If so how has it held up so far?

@timhellsten

9 ай бұрын

I still own it have owned it for 6 years. It is holding up very well. I was just riding it yesterday, actually. Had to do a bunch of errands, pick up some dirt from home depot.

I herd there working on a 2.0 model on there website but all they say about it is subscribe to there newsletter. Wouldn't mind knowing more about it.

@chrisnorris3641

9 ай бұрын

The 2.0 looks like a huge upgrade as well. I really want 1

Where can I find this in Houston Texas??

@popeyegordon

3 жыл бұрын

PEBL was outsourced to Germany during the pandemic. It will undergo a redesign. The original was too heavy. This design is too hot for Texas. The ELF is cooler and is now under new ownership with a new model coming out soon.

@danielturcotte9146

3 жыл бұрын

@@popeyegordon okay thanks for the information!!!

great review. so much better than an unnamed bike that does not have a floor (especially for New England). How much did it cost to ship back and forth to Better Bike?

@popeyegordon

3 жыл бұрын

Not better at all. The ELF weighs 70 pounds less. A floor is a bad idea because we need maximum ventilation while exercising in that small space, even in winter. PEBL was outsourced to Germany during the pandemic. It will undergo a redesign. The ELF sold 1000 units and is now being upgraded further by a new owner of the brand. In winter we use studded tires.

If only available in malaysia

@steveauguste4498

3 жыл бұрын

Hey, you can make your own "Gordo Car"! Check it out. It should meet your needs. kzread.info/dash/bejne/foWO0pitlLfVfZM.html

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Has anyone taken one on a long distance trip

@laur-unstagenameactuallyca1587

3 жыл бұрын

would love to see a vid like that

@popeyegordon

3 жыл бұрын

Not in the PEBL. PEBL was outsourced to Germany during the pandemic. It will undergo a redesign. The original was too heavy. The ELF was the original the PEBL design copied and it has seen three journeys between 4,000 and 34,000 miles. ELF has a new owner and is now being upgraded to be even better.

How much PEBL in India

@popeyegordon

2 жыл бұрын

The factory closed and outsourced to Germany. Not selling them at the present time.

Can it withstand a crash test say 60k ...in other words does it come with a roll cage

@popeyegordon

3 жыл бұрын

Only one car-bike offers a tested crash cage - the expensive DryCycle sold in the UK. But any body shell helps to protect you at the low speeds these bikes go.

Organic Transit (who makes the ELF, PEBL's only competition) filed for bankruptcy, so the PEBL now has no competition which isn't a good thing. They already removed the solar panel as an option. Now instead of paying $400 for it, you have to buy the PEBL eco which is another $1,000 above the price of the standard model (over $11,000). They also made the windshield wiper which used to be standard an option. I think it's about $350. By the time you add things like a 50mi battery, full enclosure, windshield wiper, bike lock, etc; it ends up being over $13,000. You can finance it though. It's around $200 over 5 years. If you want an ELF you can find them used online because a lot of people have sold theirs. No such luck with a PEBL. I guess they hold their value better than the ELF? Not surprising. The ELF rattles like crazy when riding it. Just search youtube for videos of an ELF test drive. Better Bike changed their logo from what's in the video too.

@popeyegordon

3 жыл бұрын

PEBL was outsourced to Germany during the pandemic. It will undergo a redesign. The original was too heavy. Wipers ruin plastic windshields. 1000 ELFS were sold, only under 200 PEBLs which were too heavy and could not climb hills were sold. ELF has a new owner - Sun Micro is moving the factory to a different town in NC and they are designing the improved ELF 2.0 now. Prices will continue to climb as will sales because cars are not sustainable. In 6 years my ELF has saved me $19,000 because I got rid of my car. Pays for itself quickly.

looks like it will be a more useful mobility device

@Spartan2x

4 жыл бұрын

Emilio Murillo You have to be kind of nimble to get in and out if it though.

@steveauguste4498

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe the "Gordo Car" is a better vehicle for you? Check it out. kzread.info/dash/bejne/foWO0pitlLfVfZM.html

@popeyegordon

3 жыл бұрын

@@steveauguste4498 No. Stop spamming that amateur looking mess.

@steveauguste4498

3 жыл бұрын

@@popeyegordon Gordo got an update! kzread.info/dash/bejne/YpiJl8WYp6jaoLA.html

@popeyegordon

3 жыл бұрын

@@steveauguste4498 Stop spamming. If people want to find your thing they will search for it. Flagged after warning you repeatedly.

i like it but $11,000 usa dollars seems outrageous, they need some competition to make their prices more reasonable.

@supershroom164

4 жыл бұрын

PhotoBooth biz agreed It should cost $2000 It’s just an enclosed ebike A brand new Mitsubishi Mirage is like 10k LOL

@Spartan2x

4 жыл бұрын

supershroom164 Dude, the batteries in this bike alone cost more then 2 grand. Cost’s add up as you add features.

@timhellsten

3 жыл бұрын

I agree would like to see more competition

@steveauguste4498

3 жыл бұрын

If you're into building something like that, why not consider the "Gordo Car"? Check it out kzread.info/dash/bejne/foWO0pitlLfVfZM.html

@steveauguste4498

3 жыл бұрын

@@supershroom164 See if this suits your fancy. It's customizable. The "Gordo Car" kzread.info/dash/bejne/foWO0pitlLfVfZM.html