I recently bought a 562 , and I haven’t been disappointed. I got a decent deal from my local shop. Doing a muffler mod soon. And with a wraparound handle bar on it, I run mine with a 28” bar and I enjoy it. I haven’t ever run an echo, so I’m a little biased. Much love from NC.

I’ve lost count of how many 590s and 620s I’ve had. And 5 of the 562s For the price you can’t beat the echos My 620 I have. Has to have over 400hours on it. Has to be. It’s welllllll used I still grab it before my ported 372s

@whatsthebuzz1

9 ай бұрын

They are hands down the best saw in the $500 range. Thanks for watching.

The 620 is the best bang for you buck by far especially if you get it during one of the anual %15 off sales

@whatsthebuzz1

9 ай бұрын

Yeah. I’ve picked up a couple of saws during those sales. 620 is hard to beat dollar for dollar. Thanks for watching.

I have a 620 and love it. I run a 20 inch and 27 inch bar on it depending on what im cutting. It pulls the 27" bar just fine. All i have done to it is take the spark arrestor screen out and the throttle response and torque are fantastic. I love chainsaws and really want to fill out a good collection of saws like you have there.

@whatsthebuzz1

9 ай бұрын

Awesome! The saws just keep accumulating over time at my place! Thanks for watching.

Very good comparison, one of the best out there on youtube. Close to the real world including weight of fuel and oil.... Thanks a lot.

@whatsthebuzz1

6 ай бұрын

You’re welcome. Thank you for watching and commenting.

I was a sawer on a wildfire crew and worked 21 days in a row 18 hrs a day to get 2 days paid off. 4 lbs difference is enormous. We cut mostly brush on steep slopes maby bucking firewood all day would not matter as much. I had to trade saw for radio when I was 36 years old. If I could have shaved off 4 lbs off saw I would have ran saw till I was 40.

Just bought the echo 620! So far I love it. Also have the echo 490 and a Stihl ms 271. Like them all. The Stihls are expensive for me so I have gone for the echos. Also they are easy to work on. I’m a firewood cutter. Love the video.

@whatsthebuzz1

11 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching. You can’t go wrong with the 620. The echo saws really give you the best bang for your buck nowadays!

Great video. Great information.

@whatsthebuzz1

10 ай бұрын

Thanks. I appreciate you watching.

I like your older Stihl in the background on the first level rack, nice job on the video, very good explanations

@whatsthebuzz1

4 ай бұрын

Thanks. I try and collect the older stihls I just love them.

@diggindiggenit6540

4 ай бұрын

I just started into saws about a half year ago i like the way the older ones feel when cutting to me it isn't a issue weight etc. and I am not big but don't cut wood that often.@@whatsthebuzz1

@whatsthebuzz1

4 ай бұрын

You can definitely find older stihls that still run great. I have a 028 041 and 075.

@diggindiggenit6540

4 ай бұрын

Nice wow a 075 that has to be a blast to run that beast I just got a 056super that might be my biggest one @@whatsthebuzz1

The actual size of the air filter is irrelevant. Husqvarna has perhaps the best pre filtration system therefore not requiring as much filter surface.

@joelhockett8137

2 ай бұрын

I said the cs 370 airfilter is smaller but, otherwise identical in design to the cs 7310's meaning smaller scale, the smaller the saw the smaller the filter and the cs 7310 bigger saw has a bigger airfilter? And both of these configurations are superior to the 620p and nothing to do with relevance ? just to clarify my statement. I've owned several Swedish made husky's much better machine's than these modern-day versions in my own opinion and perfer the Echo's performance, warranty and price vs new husky's and i tried the lighter more expensive 562xp with plastic clutch cover ect. Autotune that requires an ecm so performace wise you get what you got without being able to fine tune or do any real modifications and that's OK for ppl that have no idea how to maintain saws i guess. a friend had to replace the carburetor and that alone cost him almost $300 if it needed an ecm you will have spend more $ on these 2 parts alone without the cost of labor. You can buy a new fully tunable mod friendly more powerfull 59cc 620p with an all magnesium case without all the plastic or the electronic autotune crap without having to go through a dealer for the parts or repair costs. The torq is nowhere close to the 80's Swedish made torq#'s My 620p a bit heavier for a 59cc saw with less plastic and the torq being right up there with 72cc models who cares. Just a much better and more dependable saw all around despite the airfiler issue that cost $15 to resolve. So, I'm happy you like your husky and not disputing their filtration system that design evolved from those earlier Swedish saws that were the most powerful dependable an far more superior to everything else at that time and time changes everything ! You'll pay well over $1000 -$1500 for the husky or stihl with a full magnesium case saw equivalent to the $600 echo 620p

Great video

@whatsthebuzz1

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

The stihl ms400cm is bar none the best power to weight ratio for a saw. 5.4 hp. Mine rips through wood. The powerband on the 400 is amazing. I will say if you want to run a 25 or longer bar open up the oil journal hole on the stock bar to 1/8. The 400 is a great do it all saw. Dropping trees limbing and bucking rounds. It's light, comfortable, and powerful.

@afellowinnewengland6142

9 ай бұрын

I'd agree, but I wish the top and rear handles were wider. Controls feel so small for a saw of this class. As for oiling, it's still running the MS362 pump so it's borderline with a 25" bar. Definitely wouldn't go longer than that.

@whatsthebuzz1

9 ай бұрын

The oiler has been a complaint of many people. That is something stihl should have addressed. Also the plastic handle bar on a commercial saw is ridiculous.

Good comparison information

@whatsthebuzz1

11 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching.

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I think 3 or 4 pounds difference in a similar cc saw is huge… not necessarily that significant for the operator, but to trim that much weight and add 20% more HP is sound engineering and costs $$. All depends what you want…. Good video!

@whatsthebuzz1

Жыл бұрын

I hear ya. I cut with larger saws often so I don’t notice a few pounds. I just wonder what you give up in durability for saving lbs? Time will tell with the newer saws. Thanks for watching.

4 pounds extra may be fine if I'm cutting rounds on big logs. If I'm limbing and need to flick the saw constantly, I'm better off with the lighter one.

@whatsthebuzz1

11 ай бұрын

Agreed. It all depends what your using the saw for.

I dont notice that weight difference in a firewood saw, thus every time I've went to buy a 60cc saw I've walked out with a 70cc. Limbing with either is a bit of a chore, I sometimes use my 345 for that but a real sharp axe with a good operator can limb/ top green timber just as fast. Within the scope of firewood, I dont notice a few lbs felling and bucking. I like a saw with some low end grunt though, important to realize that we arent pro fallers, and what we need out of our saws can be a bit different.

I think the weight difference is important in some cases but not others. Cutting firewood is basically highway miles for a saw. Its about the least demanding usage on a power head and human. If you are climbing trees or operating saws up in a bucket 8 or 9 hours a day then those pounds start adding up. Holding the saw at chest hieght, on its left side, right side, every angle in between, etc you get the idea. In my view, using a ms400 to cut firewood is underutilizing the features that saw brings to the table.

Echo saws are reliable & generally more affordable than Sthil or Husky

The air injection on the husky us the superior set up. Once you cut more with the 400 you will see how dirty it gets.

@whatsthebuzz1

9 ай бұрын

I will be doing some serious cutting this winter. I will keep an eye on the filters. Thanks for watching.

FYI: Husky is a 5 year warranty. Stihl is 2 if you buy their oil. 400C is definitely the best of this lot, but if I could pick any in this range it'd be the new Husky 572XP.

@whatsthebuzz1

9 ай бұрын

572 is a great saw, But i consider it a more professional saw. I was just comparing homeowner/commercial saws here. Thanks for watching.

@Bixby-and-Buckshot

9 ай бұрын

@@whatsthebuzz1 fair point. You’re spot on with the echo saws. Best out there for the money right now.

@w740lp8

9 ай бұрын

When I bought my stihl last year I was given a 2 year warranty and with the purchase of 1 gallon motomix or oil I was given an additional 3 years. 5 year total coverage.

@buildingwithtrees2258

9 ай бұрын

I picked up a 572, 32" light stihl bar a few weeks ago with the 20% sale Husqvarna had. $1,000.

@whatsthebuzz1

9 ай бұрын

That’s a great price.

Four pounds does make a difference at the end of the day. I normally run the 462 all day. But if it has been a hot one I may grab a smaller and lighter saw at the end of the day.

I will stick with my 572xp best saw i have ever owned..

You’ve got great content on your channel and I appreciate the comparison/contrast between your saws. I will answer like this: if I had one saw of the 4 you own that I would expect to be there 10 years from now, which would it be? The Echo cs-680. (1) It’s built like a tank compared to the others; (2) it has a tunable carburetor vs technowizardry; and (3) the manual oiler is an absolute bonus in promoting chain life and bar longevity. The 620 would be my next logical choice EXCEPT for the filtration. Thus, I would choose the Stihl 400C. Of all the saws there, it will retain its initial value the best.

@whatsthebuzz1

Жыл бұрын

My personal opinion is the non electronic carb saws will have the least amount of problems. I like the 680. It’s a tried and true design. If you ran every saw the same amount of time it would be awesome to see which saw outlasted the others! Thanks for watching.

Those 400’s do pretty good with Stihl 46RSLF and 46RSK. The .404 is great, only needs sharpening once a week. Maybe more than once a week but it does last longer. How many problems have you had with the electronic carburetors? My MTronic saws have been great, zero issues! I don’t like the manual adjustment carburetors anymore and try to only buy electronic control. I know some people end up having a lot issues with them and I understand how electronics can turn into a nightmare.

@whatsthebuzz1

11 ай бұрын

I’m new to the electronic carbs. I prefer manual, but I see the advantage for somebody to not have to mess with an adjustment. I just use logic that over history the more electronic components the more problems and less longevity. They ruined trucks, tractors, and maybe saws?

@PurpleNovember

11 ай бұрын

@@whatsthebuzz1 I get what you’re saying. Computer control is more of my go to about 90% of the time, but there’s times I want something extra basic. I think it’s more of a different category of computer and non computer controlled. Like comparing top handle and rear handle saws, it’s really two different categories that can do the same job but can’t replace each other. EFI engines last longer than carburetor engines and far less maintenance and greater efficiency. It took some time to get there. There’s not much nostalgia in a 1980’s TBI. There’s just something special about an older pickup with a carburetor and no electronic controls or gauges. I think the biggest disadvantage of EC is the lack of general knowledge and understanding when it comes to general repairs and maintenance. Plus the needed scan tools involved with diagnostic’s and manufactures denying consumers the right to repair their own property.

Wait until the 562xp MK2 comes out! Personally, the Stihl 400 is way overrated for the money spent. If can find the Echo 680, it has a superior air filtration setup to anything on the market, except for the 7310.

The 400 is definitely the best. 620 is a great saw but once husqvarna put sales on the 562 at 620 prices they are the Best Buy. Much faster cutting than the 620 and the 620 filtration needs work. Btw, 2lbs is 10% heavier and 4lbs is over 20%. That’s a bunch!

@whatsthebuzz1

9 ай бұрын

Yeah, percentage wise I see what your saying with the weight. I really like my echos when you get them on sale and then open up the mufflers. They gain a lot of power and speed. Thanks for watching.

@thefirewooddoctor

9 ай бұрын

Port the 620P and it will smoke the 400 for the same, or less, money in the cut.

@whatsthebuzz1

9 ай бұрын

You can do a lot to the echos to gain speed and power, and still be under purchase price of most stihl saws. Thanks for watching.

Have you or any other people ever heard about JoMac chainsaws that they are very underrated but a amazing tool for cutting trees and bucking up trees

@whatsthebuzz1

9 ай бұрын

Never heard of them, but I’ll look them up.

@White_devil1980

9 ай бұрын

@@whatsthebuzz1 I have one I got from a friend and it’s really good I did have a oiling problem but it was easy to fix in the local mechanic here in west cork 🇮🇪 and it is working really great and no problems

I think 4Lbs/1.81kg is a lot. Perhaps it would be ok if you driving into where you cutting and you can leave your spare fuel+oil just yards away from where you’re working. But if you’ve got to carry 1/2mi+ across country and or uphill, just to get to the first tree. Carrying everything you will need and some of what you may need. Then 4Lbs is a lot.

@whatsthebuzz1

11 ай бұрын

That’s a good point. Cutting in the woods is totally different than just cutting on a pile at your house. Thanks for watching.

@milesroe5082

9 ай бұрын

I'm 6'3" 275lbs so 4lbs doesn't matter. But if your

@whatsthebuzz1

9 ай бұрын

True. Size does matter!😂

I want that 680 air cleaner on my 620. No I dont want the foam one.

@whatsthebuzz1

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, I wish they would have kept the pop style air cleaner. Feel like they cheapened out a little bit there.

You didn’t say how many tanks of fuel you have through the Husky, if you have the latest software or if you’ve done some setup cuts. What year was it manufactured? The Husky should feel powerful and fast- especially after 10-12 tanks of fuel. It’s a pro saw and needs some break in. It has lower vibration and better tech than the Echo. The Echo out of the box does not dyno test as strong as the Husky, so something may be off if the Husky seems slower. Don’t get me wrong, I like and own Echo, but these particular designs are very old compared to the Husky.

@whatsthebuzz1

9 ай бұрын

I’ve had the husky for about a year. Well over 10 tanks through it. It cuts fine, but it’s not that far ahead of the echos. Biggest point I was making is for the price the echos are better. I would skip the 562 and just get a 572. Thanks for watching.

@afellowinnewengland6142

9 ай бұрын

@@whatsthebuzz1 Gotcha. Yeah, I have the 572xp and it's a good low vibe saw with a solid build. FYI- the 562xp was revised this year and the new updated model hits retailers probably this winter. Lighter with some more oomph and other little improvements. That said, the Stihl MS400 is still the superior saw with a light bar.

Echo seriously needs to revamp the 620 airfilter. It lets a dangerous amount of debris through into the carb area. The 680 filter setup may very well be the best I have seen.

@whatsthebuzz1

10 ай бұрын

I agree. I run the aftermarket o-ring kit they sell for the 590 and 620 on my saws. Helps a lot, but shouldn’t be necessary. Thanks for watching.

Чувак, ты забыл про Oleo-mac😊

I bought a Husqvarna 562xp for $735. Hugh disappointment. dies for no reason, hard to restart after heavy use, started with 50:1 Husqvarna fuel (synthetic mix) started using 40;1 fuel and getting it to run and restart a little better. Wish i could get my money back. I have a Shindaiwa 488 I bought in 08 that has been so much better service. I will only by a Echo or Shindaiwa from now on.

@whatsthebuzz1

9 ай бұрын

Sorry to hear that about the 562. Could be a bad e-carb. Have to taken it back to the dealer? I’ve heard of the 562 having issues. Thanks for watching.

I really wish echo kept the bar cover of the 680 magnesium with the outside bucking spikes :/ Also 4 lbs. Difference is massive especially considering the stihl is a hotter saw than the echo.

@whatsthebuzz1

Жыл бұрын

I agree it needs both dogs. Trying to find some good aftermarket ones to put on it.

@benjaminleslie3155

Жыл бұрын

@@whatsthebuzz1 if you can find a 670 cover with the spikes it should fit the 680 perfectly. I don't know if the old spikes are the same as the current ones though.

@whatsthebuzz1

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate the heads up. I didn’t know the 670 would fit. I’ll keep a look out for one.

@scottgreen1787

10 ай бұрын

I recently bought the 680. I wish it had a magnesium side cover like the 620. I think the only reason for the magnesium side cover on the 620 is the outside spikes. If it wasn't for the double spikes, it too eould have a plastic clutch cover. My old echo 650evl was a great saw. It's cut a LOT of wood. Although hardly ever used anymore, it still runs like a champ. It has a magnesium clutch cover, and it is cracked. But I'm talking years of cutting. Not only for heating the house, but also for cutting & selling firewood. It was the reputation of my 650evl that steared me to the 680.

@whatsthebuzz1

10 ай бұрын

Awesome. Those older echo saws were legendary!

If u buy husky oil when u buy a new saw they will give you a 5 yr warranty

@whatsthebuzz1

11 ай бұрын

Yeah, I believe you are correct if you purchase fuel and oil.

)80 all day long

Reviews are only worthwhile if bias isn’t present. From the beginning I guessed where he was going. What’s bad on one saw is just the way it is on another.😂😂😂

@user-yx8bk6zo9x

2 ай бұрын

The favorite gets weighed with a lightweight bar!😂😂😂😂

Pipe the 562 and it won’t be close then

Saws cost more in Ohio? At least my area.

Put a 20 inch bar on the 562. 24 is too long for a 60cc saw imo.

@whatsthebuzz1

9 ай бұрын

It would pull better with a 20, but if it’s being marketed as a commercial saw I want it to pull at least up to a 24” bar. The stihl and echo will pull up to 27”. Thanks for watching.

@jbilly24

9 ай бұрын

being a "professional" saw has nothing to do with bar length, lol. @@whatsthebuzz1

I really like my 620p but, after the 1st tank of fuel and looking at the airfilter it was easy to see it was sucking in more fine debris than was being filtered. So, shame on Echo for 6+ yrs of this sorry excuse of a filter without providing a fix? maybe just with an o-ring & spacer kit for the original owners of these model saws just to save face and would've done more for the (Echo brand) than the 5yr warranty with a leaking alleged (pro saw airfilter) that should've been redesigned several yrs. ago? A pro saw should have a adequate pro saw filter in my opinion, especially.. if you want to compete with the 2 top dogs. I hope some of Echo's big shots read this comment and keep it in mind for the future if they really want to stay on top of their game??? I also own a Echo blower, 1 cs 3510 and 2 cs 370's with proper examples of a pro style airfilter like on the 680

@whatsthebuzz1

3 ай бұрын

I hate the 620 air filter as well. Echo did finally come out with a redesigned air intake system and filter. Check out the 7310. It’s arguably the best system on the market now. I have one and love it. Thanks for watching.

@joelhockett8137

3 ай бұрын

@whatsthebuzz1 Yes, sir I've been around the 7310 really good machines! Cs680's also share the round auto style airfilters and the cs370 uses a similar setup & my go to saw for cutting under 24" It's had a few mods done to it since 2009 but the older I get the more I appreciate the smaller saws

60 cc equals toys for beginners

@whatsthebuzz1

11 ай бұрын

Ha! I’ll bring out the big boy toys in videos soon!

@dgoodman1484

9 ай бұрын

I can see you’ve never climbed any spars for a yarder!