I really like Chelsea's comments about how a sad movie like this can be life affirming. In his thoughts of feeling like his only option is to kill himself, he feels completely lacking value and maybe unoriginal and useless, but as an audience we become part of the narrative, we are the ones who are seeing his worth and caring about him. It's both heartbreaking and affirming knowing that there are always people in our lives that will be affected if our presence is gone, that we can't see or don't realize because of mental illness. In this case, we are those people, mourning his loss. That's beautiful.

Chelsea's closing comments truly had me ugly crying in a parking lot lmao. I love y'all, thank you for understanding how empathetic the horror genre (and community) really is. You are 100% right James, Chelsea is brilliant

I am apparently one of the few who has already watched this movie and knew exactly what y’all were talking about in the title haha

@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747

3 жыл бұрын

If you follow Chelsea on Twitter you would've anticipated this podcast for a good two weeks.

@nickstigs9088

3 жыл бұрын

ikr lmao. these ppl dont even like good horror lmao

@lexiboorse7195

3 жыл бұрын

I literally just watched this last night and im still mind fucked

@ashleywilliams4665

3 жыл бұрын

@@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747 yeah I used to keep up with her Twitter for the podcast all the time but I don’t use Twitter much anymore. So either she announces it in the prior podcast or it’s a surprise.

@IJohnSmith

3 жыл бұрын

@@nickstigs9088 facts it seems like a lot of James’ subs are either super young or only into the super mainstream shit

Everyone saying all this about "I thought James was ending his channel" and not realising...that Chelsea does the podcast? Like, I'm gonna be honest, for me Chelsea MAKES this podcast. Their chemistry is great but the amount of research, commitment, and creativity Chelsea brings is what I come here for every week.

@bee-om2ry

3 жыл бұрын

I am so ANNOYED by these comments tbh. The podcast is 1. an integral part of this channel and 2. just as (or even more than, for some) enjoyable as the kill counts! And it takes a lot of work for both series but Chelsea is rarely credited for or even acknowledged by some people on here! And they usually announce major channel changes on multiple platforms and even stand alone vids, not the podcast. Im just fed up when I scroll the comments to see what other people think of the movie they’re reviewing and it’s all dumb comments by people who don’t watch the podcast or come on here to insult it if it’s not the kill count :/

@imthebestmayne122

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, but sometimes it can feel overbearing. James oftentimes abandons his points about certain aspects of the money because Chelsea disagrees. Not saying this is a common occurrence, very rare, but sometimes it feels like James does not get to properly articulate points and arguments.

@bee-om2ry

3 жыл бұрын

@@imthebestmayne122 I think part of it is that Chelsea is the one that plans what the subject and content of the podcast will be - and that’s because the kill counts/favorite horror movie series is James’ baby and this podcast is Chelsea’s. So she’ll have points about it already made that she wants to cover while James will only have the first viewing/note taking experience. James never seems to mind though and I love this podcast bc this is how I talk to my s/o when I’m excited about a movie I love lol. Just my 2 cents tho, James is always so grateful and lovely towards Chelsea so I just don’t see the dynamic of one or the other dominating parts of this channel.

@Firegen1

3 жыл бұрын

It is very annoying because i's so kneejerk. I am still at a loss to why people think knee jerk responses are worth posting. We all guilty of having a bit of daft first reaction but its not worth proclaiming to the world. Its also not so nice for James and Chelsea because it shows we don't pay attention. He would he way more candid than that. As he has been with the wedding and when he needed a break. What a great audience we show ourselves to be. SMH.

@KodaLang21

3 жыл бұрын

@@bee-om2ry But actually most people I’d say at least 75%are here because how much they love the kill counts not the podcast

Confession: As a 49 year old utility worker in a nursing home, i find myself relating to Jake. Its hard to hear that young people think the way they do. Its heartbreaking.

@niemanickurwa

2 жыл бұрын

Just try to remember mate, lots of people _don't_ think that way. We have a tendency to project onto everyone the worset among us, which in turn influences the way we interact with people, and people interact with us. I do it myself... Stay strong brother.

I believe there are multiple types of horror, not just jump scares and gore and unsettlement, but heart break and loneliness and suicidal thoughts are legit horrific especially if you have gone through those things. I think horror is a lot larger in a sense then most people see and understand, so when the argument comes up about this movie being horror or not, I do think it depends on how you view horror and what you as an individual have actually gone through. If you don't understand what's going on, or if you have never been where the character is in his own mind, then I can totally understand why people would view this as not horror. But when you have been through similar things, or when you do understand how this character is feeling and what thoughts are running through his head, you can really tell how much of a horror this movie, and this concept, could be. But it really does depend I believe. So, its understandable to believe this is not a horror, and its also understandable to believe this is a horror, and I don't think there is a correct answer to whether it is or isn't. Btw love your podcast ❤

@littlefrogface2738

3 жыл бұрын

Completely agree with you on that one

I’m surprised you guys never talked about the fact she was referred to multiple names throughout the movie. Lucy, Louisa, Lucia, and Ames.

@ruby_waffle

3 жыл бұрын

They don't matter. She isn't real.

@amfx4

3 жыл бұрын

45:43

@Mochipandabear

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting seeing as in the book she is never given a name at all

@nic..1

3 жыл бұрын

@@amfx4 Thanks, I see they did mention it. It’s odd tho, as they refer to her as Lucy earlier in the video. When that’s just her original name and is as useless as all the other names.

@ruby_waffle

3 жыл бұрын

@@taylorzen1 that's very rude, and has nothing to do with my comment.

The amount of terrified comments really show how many people love them and this channel.

@filmfangirls9163

3 жыл бұрын

That's a good way of looking at it!!

@Nexils

3 жыл бұрын

It also shows that loads of people don't know about this movie :o

@zacaryswearingen8124

3 жыл бұрын

I thought he was taking about the podcast and got sad

@LadyJ_88

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nexils Or have really bad reading skills

This was such a moving episode. I agree with James that Chelsea's passion for the humanity in the story is infectious. I wasn't a big fan of the film despite still thinking it was good, but I really appreciated this conversation.

this movie was so weird but i HIGHLY recommend the book! it feels like a different experience and it is one of the few books that actually scared me. if you do want to LISTEN TO THE AUDIOBOOK!

@Litera_Trotter

3 жыл бұрын

I read the book and it creeped me out. Especially the talk about a man standing outside her window when she was small

@iustina.gav1

3 жыл бұрын

Do you have a link for the audiobook? :)

@depressedpebbles

3 жыл бұрын

I finished the book at night which was a terrible idea. I was literally crying out of fear. I had trouble sleeping for the next week!

@natalym9985

3 жыл бұрын

The pages of “what are you waiting for” creeped me out

@depressedpebbles

3 жыл бұрын

@@natalym9985 SAME. I WAS LIKE WHAT THE HECK?

I'm gonna be honest that title scared me alot

@neptune8168

3 жыл бұрын

Same James Pls don't quit!

@sssilver_wing

3 жыл бұрын

Commented on a top comment I guess

@ghostoftsushimafan7172

3 жыл бұрын

Facts i got scared

@LaynesMissingArm

3 жыл бұрын

You don't even know

@MtnDew4828

3 жыл бұрын

same

1:28:34 is the moment that the moment that I had to pause to cry my eyes out. I've dealt with, and still deal with intense suicidal thoughts. I thought I was ok until Chelsea started saying what she could see about Jake that he couldn't and her words were almost identical to things friends have told me to stop me from ending it. It was the moment when it went from a story I could understand to a story I'd so nearly lived and it hit me so hard.

@rsfilmdiscussionchannel4168

2 жыл бұрын

❤️

Hiya Chelsea and James - Don't know if someone already commented this, but I just thought I'd quickly mention that the janitor didn't actually have an apartment. As the movie starts, he was actually looking out the window of his parents house, down into the beginning of the "daydream" we watch play out. In the beginning, as the janitor is kind of rambling around, eating his cereal, rinsing the bowl, preparing for another day that blends into another and into another.... We notice he still lives in his parents house. He never left home. He cared for both his parents, (mentioning "No one ever notices the good things you do" later in the film) sacrificing his own life, partially for them, but also because of his intense anxieties and insecurities of not being good enough. He never gave life a chance because he was too afraid of life's rejections. (We also see him leave the house, and get into his truck to head to work. That's when he's beginning to "daydream" the car ride we watch play out. There's a cool part where younger Jake reaches for the radio, and we see older Jake's hand change the dial.) So, on the day he's "thinking of ending things", he's thinking back on how things could have played out different, if only he'd made different choices; if he'd taken a chance on life. Also, "the woman"'s name, on the caller ID keeps changing, cuz the janitor never learned the girls name that he was too self conscious to approach. So, in his "daydream", the woman's name just keeps changing. Also, younger Jake mentions to the woman the dog being all wet. I think that's why we only see the dog shaking dry, cuz that's the only clear image older Jake has of the dog. (Just all my opinions.) I preferred the book, but I loved this movie as well. It hit me like a TON of bricks, right in the chest. I'm agoraphobic (going on 5 years) and this movie has made me take a good, hard look at my life, and ask myself "Do I wanna end up losing all hope, like Jake." The answer is no. So I started online therapy a few weeks ago. ☺ Thanks for another amazing podcast, guys! (And Chelsea, ya got me misty eyed at the end. Thanks for being the extremely sensitive, empathetic soul that you are.) I've watched them all, and I adore and support you both. Congratulations on your upcoming wedding!!! Much light and love. (Ok, I'll go back to lurking now, lol) ✌

@darinkenmore8325

3 жыл бұрын

Hey man - I understand the struggles of agoraphobia. But keep working on it. Baby steps. It can get better. I'm living proof. 🍀

@LOng-zp3dv

3 жыл бұрын

Stay strong, brother. It gets better. Good on you for seeking some help. We're not built to go at it alone.

@owlseyetarot

3 жыл бұрын

@@darinkenmore8325 Congratulations on reclaiming your life, my friend. That's amazing to hear! And thank you for your kind, understanding words. I begin exposure therapy in two weeks, so I'm excited/nervous. ☺ Much appreciation to you for this increadably encouraging comment. Thank you, sincerely.

@owlseyetarot

3 жыл бұрын

@@LOng-zp3dv Thank you for thoughtfully commenting, and gently reminding me (and anyone else who happens to read this) that it's perfectly normal/healthy to reach out for assistance. Thank you for clearly stating this important fact. Much appreciation to you, as well. ✌☺

@anthonyromero9167

3 жыл бұрын

Congrats on starting therapy! That's a huge step and definitely not easy. Take care of yourself.

The conversation about the basement is so heartbreaking. He talks about how it is only used as a washer/dryer (like a janitor) and how he hates it. Then she jokes about being warned of creepy basements (creepy people and especially creepy janitors) and the fact that its all dialogue in Jake’s head. I hate the pretension the first time I watched this but the second time I was able to look past it because every single line of dialogue serves a purpose. It’s beautifully crafted

Am I the only person who saw the title and though “hey they’re gonna revue that new Charlie Kaufman movie”?

@naomibielaofficial

3 жыл бұрын

It would seem that way 😂

@thedude8457

3 жыл бұрын

Charlis Kaufman is incredible

@insanegeco276

3 жыл бұрын

yes you are

@alexocana1865

3 жыл бұрын

I believe it's review

@miacheney5556

3 жыл бұрын

I instantly thought of the film too. I watched with my parents, and we debated for an hour after we finished about what this film actually meant. It was soooooo good, and I loved it 😁.

James' lovely praise of Chelsea at the end had me in my feels!! "Your humanity and love for this depiction of humanity is infectious"

Chelsea stans where y'all at???

This movie just had me doing the Leonardo DiCaprio meme from Once Upon A Time In Hollywood every time something changed.

POV your looking for a comment that doesn’t say “ GhEe I tHoUgHt tHeY wErE eNdinG tHe channel”

@Fraughtful

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao truuuu

@bigslime2267

3 жыл бұрын

POV you’re replying to an unfunny comment

@KodaLang21

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigslime2267 I don’t get it is this an attempt to b funny?😅

@bigslime2267

3 жыл бұрын

@@KodaLang21 be*

@pucci-hisholiness

3 жыл бұрын

I thought he was gonna 😭🔫

Aw James and Chelsea at the end of this podcast is so sweet. He hit the nail on the head, she sold this movie and really boiled it down to the essence of what it was. Very human.

OK guys, we get it, the title scared everyone. Chill

@Theeditor2828

3 жыл бұрын

No. Never

@MarluxiaX2

3 жыл бұрын

@@Theeditor2828 Dumb teenager most likely lol Grow up

@Firegen1

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. @Marluxia

@armedwithwings3953

3 жыл бұрын

@@MarluxiaX2 cmon now that’s disrespectful to teens all over the world

I had some thing happened that’s never happened with any other movie that I watched. I was watching and I was thinking the whole time “This is so odd. I don’t get what’s going on exactly but it’s great.” When I finally realized what the “twist” was and when it clicked in my head fully I started to sob uncontrollably. Like the second it all made sense to me I started to break down. This movie is 10/10.

@2bemyownman200

2 жыл бұрын

I wanna show this movie to my Partner but I dont want her to be too lost. Wat should I tell her before we watch?

Am I the only one who immediently knew they were gonna talk about the movie?

@tonyabrookes9931

3 жыл бұрын

I was excited to read people's comments on the movie and then saw almost all of them are about thinking James was quitting! Lol. Wtf

@Sarahonwheels

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, because I watched the movie and read the book. But I understand why it scared people.

@manofocean

3 жыл бұрын

yeah i wanted to read the comments for thoughts on the film but oh well

@cnb98

3 жыл бұрын

so satan watches dead meat why am I not surprised

I didn’t think at first you were talking about a movie

@LittleAlternativeGirl

3 жыл бұрын

Same! And then I remembered it's a movie.

@nathansakulich664

3 жыл бұрын

same

@theonenamedpie

3 жыл бұрын

It scared me

@Kodexzy

3 жыл бұрын

Same lol

@BantuBoi-vr8vh

3 жыл бұрын

😭bro omg same

Hi, I just wanted to say thank you to Chelsea for what she said at the end of the podcast. As someone who really related to the character of Jake, despite being a young women, what you said was really meaningful and beautiful. I live alone and have been having quite a hard week so far and this podcast was really uplifting for me. I watch the podcast everywhere while I work and I love that amount of effort Chelsea puts into them. So thank you 🙂

This movie came out at a time where I was having a lot of the same invasive thoughts of suicide that the janitor constantly says over the phone, it was a really cathartic and haunting experience for me and was definitely my favourite movie of 2020. It was part of what made me go and finally get therapy

I dont know if I'm alone in thinking this but. While hearing about this movie over the course of this podcast I kinda got a little down. It hits in some places. It's the kind of movie that makes you question yourself. But the ending bit of this podcast legitimately made me smile. You guys are so incredibly wholesome and kind and it's the reason I watch every video apart from the superb entertainment. Be good people!

This is the only podcast I can listen to I just love it. The amount of work Chelsea has put into this is insane and I am forever thankful for the 129 episodes out now and for any more in the future. I hope they can continue doing more games, in-depth dives, and just goofing around to have fun. If you only watch this channel for the kill count you are simply missing out. The remakes episode is what hooked me and I will continue to listen as long as these are released. Thank you Chelsea and James for all the hard work I and many others are truly grateful.

I love the movie reviews in just about every way. Whether I've seen the movie, go watch it for the 1st time before I listen, or just want to hear a breakdown if I don't seem interested. I googled this movie and went "meh, not for me." But of course, I was gonna listen regardless cuz I would still enjoy it. I didn't think twice about the content warning. I thought at the end of this, I would feel how James initially did, especially the way it was described in the first 10 mins or so. But then, holy hell, I just wasn't prepared. This hit home in SO MANY WAYS. I feel like Jake all the time. And I do this hypothetical shit in my head all the time. As sad as this made me feel, because I see so many paths of ending up like that in life, it's still a moment of self realization. There's still so much life to live, choices to make and paths to explore. It's kind of a wake up call to stop being scared of life. Jake is a charachter that has never felt love. He has a natural vulenrablititly defense mechanism which prevents him from letting someone love him. This was such a beautiful episode, both of you as always did fantastic. But Chelsea especially right here just, wow, incredible. So thank you for that. I am actually a little terrified to watch this, it's scary because it's relatable, so maybe to me, this would actually be horror. BUT, I think I do have an interesting rule. The 3 genre rule. If you logically consider a film 3 genres other than horror before it, it's not universally a horror movie. Won't lie, I go back and forth on being genre strict 😂

@2bemyownman200

2 жыл бұрын

I wanna show this movie to my Partner but I dont want her to be too lost. Wat should I tell her before we watch?

@offscreenlongo

2 жыл бұрын

@@2bemyownman200 I might go with something like "this movie is kind of a mind fuck, you'll probably be confused and you're supposed to be. But trust me, it's an amazing experience" certain films are designed for the audience to not be informed. But these can be the amazing type of art you go back to multiple times. Like the movie "Mr. Nobody"

@2bemyownman200

2 жыл бұрын

@@offscreenlongo thank you bruh. 🙏🏿. Ill definitely go with somethin like that.

I know Jessie Buckley’s family and went to the same school as her. So incredibly proud of her success! Thank you for doing this movie! My worlds are colliding!

Who else thought James is gonna end his channel so you clicked the vid instantly 💀

@yomama9129

3 жыл бұрын

me rn 🧍

@seanmessick9330

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah

@sweetmoon8318

3 жыл бұрын

yep

@christianstephenson5440

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@Firegen1

3 жыл бұрын

Until my brain cells fired, yes.

There are three actors from “Fargo” in the movie Jesse plemons was in Fargo season 2 David thewlis was in Fargo season 3 And Jessie Buckley was in Fargo season 4

@aaronsouthan7798

3 жыл бұрын

four actually. Oliver Platt was the voice of the Pig. (He played Stavros the supermarket king in the first season of Fargo) so there is an actor from every season of the show.

The Janitor at my High School was a legend. Bruce had a sense of humor and loved just checking in to see how we were doing. He was a caring adult who had ZERO responsibility to be as much of a positive and supportive presence as he was. This conversation really got to me.

Who else got really scared that James was ending dead meat because of the title? Don’t ever do that to us again James😂

@dashii8660

3 жыл бұрын

SAME

@MtnDew4828

3 жыл бұрын

same

@seanmessick9330

3 жыл бұрын

He literally reviews scary movies.

@1978_1

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@diegogalvezalvarado6902

3 жыл бұрын

Dude my heart skipped a beat

I couldn't finish this movie. As someone who struggles with suicidal thoughts it hit a bit too close to home

I don't mind if the podcast doesn't focus on horror sometimes. I watch Kill Counts for the personality and analysis more than anything else. Anyone can cut together a bunch of blood and gore but there's a reason Kill Counts are so popular, and that is the writing and analysis.

As a person with anxiety and depression, I assumed this movie was about suicide. I have a hard time watching movies that hit a little too real and too close to home like I suspect this movie does, but I think a podcast should be fine? An atmosphere of dread is almost a constant for me, but you two always make it more fun.

Never thought a Dead Meat podcast could make me cry but I was wrong. Chelsea is amazing and those closing comments were perfect. The way James loves Chelsea is beautiful too. Best podcast ever!

This movie saddened me to my core

This was one of the scariest movies I've ever seen because I'm well on my way to being Jake. I'm nearly thirty and have no friends, never had a romantic relationship, and have no aspirations. My only relationships are with my brother, parents, and grandparents. I know it's just a matter of time before they die or move away and I'm left alone.

I feel like the only reason I classified this movie as horror was because it TERRIFIED me and I loved it so so much and therefore wanted to classify it as horror. But hearing this podcast and analysing it further confirms to me that it isn’t actually horror, but just a beautiful and tragic artistic movie. Thanks guys!

@jadeandjesse5908

3 жыл бұрын

I still consider it horror since the fear of getting old and being alone is just something that's very real and actually scary. I think horror is best when it's also tragic and validates the emotional side.

@TheCosmicFailure

3 жыл бұрын

I would consider it existential horror.

Podcasts are my favorite part of Dead Meat and I appreciate all the work you put into each one Chelsea! Going to watch the film before I finish the podcast but just wanted to spread some love your way for all the hard work you put into the podcasts!

I think its amazing how they got across the confusion and pain of dementia onset in old age and the fallibility of the human imagination. And he was alone, there was no one to catch it getting worse

I got scared when I read the title Jesus

@Mew_Master

3 жыл бұрын

Same.

I’m assuming that they originally titled this “I’m thinking of ending things” without the ‘review of’ by the way that everyone’s talking in the comments lol

@Dylan-xt3ms

3 жыл бұрын

Probably youtube up their asses since the title sounds kinda suicidal

@thetasigma412

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dylan-xt3ms or maybe they’re just decent people and they don’t want to freak out their audience too much

Have you guys seen “blackbear” with Aubrey plaza. That movie is a weird one too.

@anthonypiseno6341

3 жыл бұрын

Great movie

genuinely the best film of 2020. watching this masterpiece unfold was incredible

"The floor squeaks, The door squeaks, There's a field mouse a-nibblin' on a broom. And I set by myself, Like a cobweb on a shelf, By myself in a lonely room." -- "Lonely Room", 'Oklahoma!' (I've always been rather partial to the character of Jud, creepy though he is. I'll definitely check the film out, and maybe the book too.)

the last 20 seconds of this podcast are so heartwarming!! I couldn't agree more with James that Chelsea's sheer passion for this movie is singularly the best endorsement of it I have seen. You two are the best. ;__;

The context is making me cry

the title scared the crap out of me jeez

I had skipped this episode for the content at the time. Swinging back, it's such a prime example of how great this podcast is. Also, Chelsea ending by asking James how he felt and he was so overwhelmed with his love for her he had to express that more than his changing approach to the movie. I melted into a puddle it was so adorable.

First video of yours I've ever watched, but I loved Chelsea's sensitivity toward the film and the character.

The title scared me. I’ve never clicked so fast

This episode was deeply touching. My father was a custodian for most of his life and he passed away recently. I actually worked as a school custodian for a while after his passing and I feel that it brought me closer to him spiritually. Leaving that job was a bit sad for me because the other custodians loved having me on the team. They were genuinely great people that perhaps didn’t get a lot of respect due to their professions. I hope everyone that watches this video gains more respect for those with less desirable careers such as custodians. I can say from first-hand experience that many of them do lack self-confidence and they are some of the hardest working people you will ever run across. That job absolutely helped me become a better person.

Chelsea you just made me care deeply about a movie I just had the same experience as James with. I think your empathy and message shows a lot about who you are, your thoughts were just lovely and moving 💛🌙🌟✨

Kinda think any movie that intentionally builds a sense of dread in it's audience can be considered a horror movie (mother, the lighthouse, I'm thinking of ending things). Guess it's a matter of opinion though. Edit: Beautiful outro Chelsea, thank you.

The whole "is this horror" debate is pretty interesting. I watched Jon Carpenter's Vampires movie, and I could not think of it as horror at all.

@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747

3 жыл бұрын

I think is one of those action movies that feature some horror elements without being actually scary. Something like Resident Evil, Underworld and Zak Snyder's remake of Dawn of the Dead.

@RealBradMiller

3 жыл бұрын

I felt the same way with the Emoji Movie.

I was listening to this in the laundromat, and felt myself losing it. Then I got to my apartment and sat on the floor sobbing when I listened to the last few minutes again

Thank you Chelsea 💜

Yeah, watching this for the 3rd time. Still cried. Love you both.

Wow I actually teared up at the final statement from Chelsea. It was a beautiful way to think of my own worth. Love you guys! You really have changed my life and outlook and knowledge in so many ways throughout the years.

I’m sad that I’m almost done listening to all these podcasts. Chelsea does such an incredible job and I’ll certainly re-listen to them all. Life is rough right now and this movie left me with an ache in my chest, but their affirmation in Jake’s worth is uplifting

Your parting message really got to me. It made me cry. Can’t wait until next week for the horror podcast!

I won't lie, I got the notification, saw the title, and who it was from, and I fucking panicked. That scared the shit outta me

"fuck yeah that shreds" - best quote of 2021

Wooowww. I watched im thinking of ending things when it came out, but had no idea about the book and didn’t understand it at all. This really makes me love it more because I liked it, but I didn’t know what it was about. Thanks for this podcast! so enlightening.

I listened to this pod at work and thank God I was alone because I was sobbing by the end, mostly due to Chelsea’s closing. Thank you both so much ❤️

As someone who has dealt with a lot of the sensitive nature of this movie quite young I really appreciate your message at the end Chelsea. It hit my heart pretty hard haha Continue to be good people and thanks for all that you and James bring into my lil corner of the world ((:

This was a really thoughtful and life affirming review. i really enjoyed it.

One thing that probably doesn’t help Jake’s constant reminder of death during the dinner scene knowing all the food is farm to table. He’s eating and looking at an animal that was raised just to die and has been all his life, constantly reminded of death and how lonely it is

I didn't go into this episode thinking I would need it as much as I did. I've always felt like I'd love to just sit down and talk to James and Chelsea about horror movies, but what Chelsea said at the end of this episode spoke to me so deeply. Thanks for the amazing commentary, guys.

I saw the title and felt immediate fear. I thought you were quitting

I love movies like this, where it has deep themes that you have to think about to understand. Especially because after you do some research you can rewatch and catch all the clues/hints to the theme. I enjoyed this movie but I honestly took it as “oh the title suggests suicide but the movie is about a dead relationship” I’m still listening to the pod so I still don’t know exactly what gives away that it has suicide as a subject. But I’ll probably end up giving it a rewatch after I listen to this in full.

This is by far my favorite episode. Really wonderful and compassionate.

Just here to drop some love for Chelsea and all the hard work she does to create this interesting and informative podcast for us. You don't get enough credit for all that you do.

I've always struggled with watching movies like I'm Thinking of Ending Things because it makes me my chest ache so terribly. There are even reality shows that I can't stand to watch because it makes me feel so sad and helpless that there are people like Jake that are struggling and feel so alone. I don't think I could have watched this movie without being genuinely emotionally fucked up for days after. But I am so glad I made it through this video. I love this podcast, and I greatly value and appreciate the thought, effort, and concern that you put into it helping people think about (horror) movies beyond typical consumption. Because of this episode, I was able to appreciate a movie that I don't think I'd have been able to watch. I will be able to talk about it with others, and point them in your direction if they had a hard time understanding the plot/point like James did. I love this podcast's ability to educate and explore movies in ways that some channels are lacking. You two are amazing.

I saw the title and almost had a heart attack

I agree with Chelsea's take away that there is a somewhat bittersweet and affirming element to the movie. When Jake recites the John Forbs Nash speech from A Beautiful Mind on stage at the end of the film, I believe that it is equating the value of Jake's life, a man who never really accomplished anything if you measure and never had anyone to be with or made any friends, to that of a Nobel prize winning mathematician whom shared a long and tumultuous loving marriage with his mathematician wife and was a game changer in economics. The same speech "It is only in the mysterious equations of love that any logical reasons can be found. I'm only here tonight because of you. You are the reason I am. You are all my reasons." If the young woman is a projection Jake created to love and care about him, but she is actually him, then she could represent the positive affirming things that he knows about himself. She could represent his self love. I know movies should stand on their own but as a Charlie Kaufman fan, this movie is much easier to get into if you have an idea of how Charlie Kaufman thinks. And by watching each of his movies you definitely get an idea of it, especially the ones he directed. I know the movies he directed are polarizing but I am left in awe of how he never wastes a second to communicate something.

Chelsea, I don't know if you read all these comments but your words at the end really spoke to me. I've never felt the things I'm passionate about are important to anyone else I know and by extension that I'm not important or not worth spending time with or having people explore those with me. And what you said really truly rang deeper than the platitudes both referenced in the film and that I've seen countless others use. You are deeply emotionally intelligent and I admire that. My dream is to filmmake and hopefully one day I'll make a horror film so good you guys will do a KC/Podcast on it. Much love to you both, you have quickly become my favorite channel on all of KZread :)

Feeling like shit right now. The end of this podcast was what I needed.

So good, thanks for this

This podcast episode is so good. I watched this without any background and absolutely loved that you read the book and gave us that insight. I don’t usually watch/listen to podcasts for time but this was so good I think I’ll start listening to more. You’re both doing amazing with these videos!

No idea if this has already been commented since I'm clearly very late to the party here, but I wanted to give my thoughts on the shaking dog. I have no idea if this is just a me thing or if it's common, but there have been times where I'm daydreaming or imagining a story as I go to sleep where a random weird thing happens in my dream that I cannot shake, and it's usually something weird like this dog that won't stop shaking. I'll imagine someone throwing something or saying something weird, and I cannot stop thinking that thing even though I don't want to imagine it in this narrative I'm dreaming. So I'll try to undo the moment and rethink it, but my brain keeps repeating the thing I don't want. That's what I took from this -- he's imagining this whole narrative and for some reason, the dog won't stop shaking. So, to counteract this, he doesn't imagine seeing the dog again, because otherwise it'll just keep shaking, throwing him off from his narrative. No idea if that made any sense or is relatable at all, but I instantly made that connection personally. Thank you both for covering this movie -- Chelsea's interpretation was exactly what I needed to hear!

Thanks for the podcast! What a great listen.

Great episode Chelsea and James. Really brought up a lot of important perspectives, so thank you! And I agree with James that Chelsea is wonderful- she made this video so thoughtful and complete with her commentary. XO

For me, one of the big plot points of the book was The Caller and what exactly was the ''one question to answer''. At the end, when we finally discover the question, it felt like a REALLY strong moment.

I've always found horror scarier when I care about the characters. If I care enough and can empathize with them, then I can actually be afraid for them.

They had us in the first half ngl The title bloody scared me thought they were stopping yt

One of my all time favorites, hope you guys enjoyed it!

@GatheringFirewood

3 жыл бұрын

well, at least Chelsea did! Hope James enjoys it more on a rewatch!

@phimau8104

3 жыл бұрын

@@GatheringFirewood ill never gonna rewatch it, cos fuck me, after i realized what the movie was about i was so goddamn depressed that im not gonna put myself through that again 😐 movie in its own was great though.

@GatheringFirewood

3 жыл бұрын

@@phimau8104 i just relate to it in so many ways it is depressing but it is so reflective for me! i owe it so much i will never stop watching it. I’ve seen it about 8 times and get more out of it each time

Thank you for your message at the end of the video, Chelsea 💜

@RealBradMiller

3 жыл бұрын

:)

@katzize26

3 жыл бұрын

@@RealBradMiller :)

Beautiful message at the end Chelsea, thank you for that ♡

Saw the title and got spooked

Jesus i had a heart attack when i glanced at the title

I loved this film and I loved how much Chelsea extrapolated this film in this format. I am very much a Charlie Kaufman fan, and I think the concepts he finds scary and frightening are something universal to a lot of us as people: what our lives mean to ourselves, to other people, being lonely, dying alone, what we leave behind, leading a happy life, consuming so much media and other interests that we don’t have a grasp at our own identity. A whole plethora of existential crap that (at least for me) plagues us on a daily basis. This film is such a stark examination at the fear that keeps us from living our true potential. The anxieties of connecting to other people in fear of embarrassment or feeling invalidated, not feeling original in our thoughts or opinions, and even being content with our achievements in this life. Kaufman is such a master at visualizing those abstract concepts and ideas into a medium that is impressive to watch with the way he directs actors and creates atmosphere. I love this episode. One of my favorite podcast episodes to date.

Actually an amazing movie. Felt so intimately personal to my own life and struggles. One of the saddest but also somehow encouraging movies I've ever seen

Chelsie explaining the feeling going on James being supportive but still hates the movie I 👏love 👏these👏 two 👏 I am so glad i watched this before i go watch the movie, would totally have to rewatch with the background info, thank you guys!

thank you for the ending to this, Chelsea

I saw this film the night it came on Netflix. I didn't understand the film but the second I did when researching later, its very powerful.

Chelsea‘s speech at the end was one of the most motivating things I‘ve ever heard and one of the most beautiful explanations why we all love horror. Thanks for that!!! You guys are incredible.