Sega was so popular in new Zealand when I was a kid never even knew of Nintendo till the GBA came out

@ExtremeWreck

5 жыл бұрын

@Tiago Pereira dos Santos Silva True dude. To me, it also goes for Genesis VS. SNES, ESPECIALLY since I like Sonic more than Mario.

@thehumbleone1983

5 жыл бұрын

Me too mate same here in Australia

The Master System is quite an interesting console. Even though its PSG chip is considered to be "weak," I still think it can make good music when utilized properly (as I've made a couple of Master System tunes myself). By the way, the FM chip in the FM Sound Unit and the Japanese Master System is a YM2413, which is a cost-reduced YM3812 (which was used in the AdLib/SoundBlaster PC cards in 1987/1989). This chip has 9 sound channels (6 when percussion mode is enabled), and on the YM2413, only 1 custom sound can be used with 15 preset patches that can be used at any time.

@dutchdykefinger

5 жыл бұрын

it's cool to see how the PSG was still on the mega drive too, and how it was used extensively to layer on more details on top of the FM music, usually the high synth sounds and noise channels were used, but some really drove it for all it's worth (sonic and streets of rage did this so tastefully) also, this demo pretty much opens all registers at certain points, most of the high pitched lead sounds throughout are PSG. ofcourse they can afford to use all the 4 channels of the PSG to simulate delay for a single instrument and all that stuff, as it's a supplement to the FM synth and it's 6 operators (well, 1 is pretty much saturated playing PCM all the time with that crazy beat going on) but it's still a good example on how PSG certainly still has its uses :) kzread.info/dash/bejne/mYuKz7Ktopy1YMo.html gotta love the demo scene. anyway, i like myself some chiptune sounds, i have a bit of a soft spot for the gnarly bass sound on old game boys too but my biggest love would be the C64's sid chip though, that thing was a monster. (and really hard to handle, kinda like FM synthgs)

@iwanttocomplain

5 жыл бұрын

@@dutchdykefinger Am getting into chiptune myself using trackers (they really aren't hard at all). To see the Yamaha OPL2 sound chip in action, check out the Adlib Gold version of Dune on PC...

@dutchdykefinger

5 жыл бұрын

​@@iwanttocomplain speaking of trackers, i started my computer music endeavours on screamtracker on ms-dos then moved on to impulse tracker, then modplug tracker, and now use renoise. (a tracker style DAW with heavy emphasis on sample-based instruments, but also with full vst(i) support) so i know my way around regular old trackers that use samples, had an escapade or 2 in deflemask in more recent years aswell, but i still think nothing about FM "oscillators" is logical the (self)modulating options and matrix do make it hard for me, even when i use VSTis with a proper interface like oxevst, i still don't have have a clue what's going on :') playing with FM synths it feels like i'm just hitting some knobs until it sounds right, no rhyme or reason for it to me, whereas in additive synthesis it is a piece of piss to to predict how a sound will change, stacking up elementary waveforms to modulate the sound comes a lot easier to me, i did once make an additive synth in java so i guess i do know a lot more about the fourier series. also, i actually vaguely remember the MSX from back in school, we had a philips MSX2 over there, i should refresh my memory on how it sounded again i know the japanese master system had FM indeed from the guys from game sack, they would play the FM music for the games that supported it, the FM is usually to the detriment of the sound effects though, a lot of effects on the PSG sound pretty cool without having that FM clang, that weird tonality despite the fact it can be thouroghly inharmonic. played the shit out of dune2 on the amiga back in the day too, but well, that was on the amiga, which is sampled, and it was dune 2, so i'll check out dune now :)

@iwanttocomplain

5 жыл бұрын

@@dutchdykefinger Thanks for all the info. KZread doesn't seem very good at telling me when I get replies I literally happened to notice this response when re-watching this video. You might be interested in the FMDrive VST plugin by www.alyjameslab.com/. I should have mentioned, I use Sunvox for a tracker on my iphone which could be good if you want to compose on the go and its quite powerful. I'm a total tracker noob and just had to look up additive synthesis so you are assuming maybe a bit more knowledge than I have lol. I can't even program. :( I recently discovered a website called modarchive.org which can have some gems going back to user submitted mods from the 90's! I leave it on random sometimes in it's popout java player and some real gems can turn up.

I had also this console for Christmas 1988, my first console. So good memories... When I was a kid, I did not know the NES was the winner, the Master System had all the good ports of the arcade games I loved, Shinobi, After Burner, Out Run, Wonder Boy, Double Dragon, R-Type, etc. combined with very good original games and RPGs. Back then, if I knew the NES was the best selling machine, maybe I would have wanted the NES over the SMS. But just by looking at the games, the SMS choice was obvious.

In Brazil, Sega Master System, it's very popular in past and today. Defeat Nintendo and sale more consoles in comparison of the rest of the world. The TecToy, which made products Sega in Brazil, released consoles after 25 years. Recently, 2017, released Mega Drive with cartridge slot, selling thousands of consoles. Sega and TecToy has a strong parcery. For the happiness Brazilians fans.

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

Yep, TecToy really did own the games market in Brazil. Sega must have been very happy.

@magoid

3 жыл бұрын

Do you have any sources about the total market sales? I ask because while only TecToy sold Sega consoles, the same can't be said about the NES. I find it hard to believe anyone can account sales from all manufactures of NES clones.

The Sega Master System has a special place in my heart. I have spent so many hours on so many good games on it, especially rpg's or action/adventure games such as y's, golvellius, golden axe warrior, kenseiden, wonder boy 2/3, ... The psg was maybe not the most powerful soundchip back then, but the musicians put it to good use and the talented ones created catchy tunes. Really I have fond memories of this console and still play it through emulators.

My favourite 8bit console, and my second favourite Sega console 😀

I'm from Brazil and when I was a kid in late 80's master system was very popular because It had official distribution by Tec Toy. Unfortunately I dont had one, but in 92 I got a Sega mega drive to replace my Atari 2600. Master system is on sale until today, in a compact version with games in memory.

I´m from Brazil, and the Master System was my first console and i have a lot of fun with it. Thank´s Mark for this great video that brings me to glorious days!

My first console. I played a lot of Golden Axe Warrior and Phantasy Star. People sometimes say that Mega Drive versions of some games are just superior, but they don't think of the time it was launched. We couldn't afford a Mega Drive, so I played ports like Golden Axe and Sonic. It was very fun, I didn't mind their limits, and if they weren't made I simply wouldn't have played any version of them.

phantasy star was the first rpg i ever played and was blown away with it. good memories.

The SEGA Master System was my first owned system back in 86-87, and I still own that same system today.. "Safari Hunt, Hang On and Snail maze built in" Mark 1 Master System.. I have always been a fan of SEGA that started in the Arcades.. I come home from School one day and was surprised by a gift "My parents got me a Master System plus unit" two pads and a light gun :) I was happy for years.. I did have a load of good games that I sold back in the 90's, gutted that I sold them, I still have a few of my original games.. In the 80's I would of either played SEGA or Commodore because that is what we had in our home.. SEGA Master System was a fair bit better than the Nintendo Entertainment system..

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

Looks like you had the same set I got. I remember the box being massive too.

@bit-ishbulldog2089

5 жыл бұрын

@@RetroCore There was a bigger set that come with 3D glasses.. my one has Model Number: 3005-05-A and Serial Number 49I 03029... I would never sell it, even if it stopped working I still keep it.. Sentimental reasons :)

@bit-ishbulldog2089

5 жыл бұрын

@@RetroCore I lost the box when we moved house years ago

@WallBreakerOfficial

5 жыл бұрын

Finally some one that remembers the Snail Maze. It's like no one remembers this hidden gem. *I'm not alone!*

Good to see the Master System getting some love. My first console after the Spectrum. Lemmings on this was so much fun. A good port of Prince of Persia too. Golvellius was the first rpg I ever completed as well, loved that little game. Great video, thanks for sharing!

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. There see just so many great games on the system.

The Master System was fairly popular in Italy. Not anywhere near in numbers to the Commodore 64 mind you, but yet I think for a while it was the most common console on the market here. Now, as I was used to microcomputers with their (often amateurishly) western developed games, the Master System seemed pretty much arcade quality at home to me. And, in a way, it was not too far from it.

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

Same here. Compared to my friends 8bit home computers my Master System seemed years ahead even though it was 1985 tech.

My first console. Got it for Christmas with Alex Kid and Golden Axe. Loved it.

Mark Smith loves Mark III. Congratulations! SMS is my beloved system.

I was fortunate to have the SMS when i was a kid, i think i was the only who had it. Couldnt find games hardly but i think my dad picked it up at a pawn shop. It even had starwars. Because of the SMS ive been a lifelong sega fan, and currently own all consoles (minus the Pico ) that came out in the states. I had sonic,golden axe warrior, shinobi, rampage, afterburner, choplifter, rocky, double dragon, astro warrior, power strike, starwars, probably my favorite console

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

Your dad made the right choice there 😊

A handheld which can be plug and play introduced me sms and gg during my childhood,later I grow up as a retro gaming teen,I discovered aleste and final bubble bobble and some europe exclusive sagaia and rainbow islands,and is such a underrated platform...but give so much joy

Despite being a very Nintendo fanboy in my youth, I played a few games on Master System and Game Gear and felt in love with both (I especially love both Sonic 8-bit games, the GG Shinobi games… no wonder I love Yuzo Koshiro’s soundtracks). I don’t know how much popular it was in France, most of my friends had a NES and only one had a Master System and a Game Gear.

Like you, I'm from the UK so I remember the SMS being very popular back in the day whereas nobody owned a NES or even wanted one. I never owned one myself, but had fun playing other people's back then and enjoy playing on it now.

34:04 name of the game is Danan: The Jungle Fighter

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

Yep, that's right.

An unexpected new present! New retro core!

Thanks for this Christmas present Mark! Master System in Spain sold more than NES thanks to our personal version of Tom Kalinske here, Paco Pastor, CEO of SEGA Spain from 1988 to 1993. He did a fantastic job and the idea of the game packs on the consoles was yours (Mega Pack and Mega Acción on Megadrive, and Master Pack on SMS) in the SMS case includes the console with Columns, Super Monaco GP and World Cup Soccer.

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

I think in most of Europe Sega did well. They really knew what they were doing back then.

13 minutes in and already love this homage to the most under rated system in console history.

@vasileios6301

5 жыл бұрын

Underated for japanese and usa standarts,we europeans,australians and brazilians enjoyed it much more than the NES.

@dirkb9788

5 жыл бұрын

@@vasileios6301 i am from the Netherlands (Europe) The Master system was and is under rated here as wel.

@vasileios6301

5 жыл бұрын

@@dirkb9788 I see,also in Scandinavian countries I think they where mostly NES fans.

Awesome! I've really come to appreciate this system over the past 3 years or so. Played it as a kid and thought it was ok but when I started collecting for it as an adult my balls were blown off by all the good PAL releases. Excellent video as always and Merry Xmas!

Your the only one who’s done justice to it, everyone else just mostly talks about the shovel ware on it. This video actually made me want to play some master system lol It has a cult following in the US. My cousin had one when it was new and I had a friend who’s moms roommate had one. Usually play Ghostbuster, double dragon, wonderboy, black belt (Fist Of The North Star) on it. Cousin had a lot of games for it but sadly he left everything in his garage and it all rusted up :(.

Thanks for this episode . the SMS was my first console(back in 1989) and my first video game love (it was very popular in France in fact in my school almost every one who have game console have a master system and/or a cpc 6128)happy new year to you and your familly.

Black Belt(Fist of The North Star in Japan) was my favorite title at the time and I still play both versions today(U.S. and Japanese, as they are very different). Some amazing tech for the time. Parallax scrolling. Mini bosses. Giant Street Fighter 2 style sprite boss fights. I couldn't believe how good this game looked at the time. I was mesmerized.

Great video ,15:30 in the original fantasy zone there were no warps, when you killed all the bases the boss would soon after appear. Fantasy zone on the master system is one of my favourite games of all time 2 is brilliant but I haven't finished it yet.

SMS was my first games console and I still have it after all these years! Loved this video, bought back some memories!

I got my master system in 1990 with 15 games. It was awesome.

My first console. Even though I'd played the 16-Bit version, Ancient's Sonic was the first one that I put considerable effort into completing. It kept myself, my sister, and various visiting cousins occupied for afternoons, evenings, and nights as we took turns trying to finish it (I would eventually manage it before them). It was so intense that I would have blurred vision after long sessions sometimes. Outrun was my first driving game and with no knowledge of the arcade version back then, it was the definitive racer for me and all of my friends and family. The soundtrack had some of my first hummable chip tunes and gave me a lifelong appreciation of game music.

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

I never really played Sonic on the Master System. As it came when I was well in to the Mega Drive. My younger brother had it though and I do remember playing it a little on his Master System 2. Outrun I do remember on the Master System. I remember buying Out Run 3D just for the extra music tracks. It could also be played in 2D.

@ThomasMatthewByrne

5 жыл бұрын

Retro Core I would have loved the 3D OutRun but I never saw it available in store. I also got a fairly primitive (even for the time) dog-fighting simulator called ‘F-16 Fighter’ the same Christmas I got the MS, Sonic, and OutRun. It was heavily discounted and was definitely no After Burner but I got a bit of play out of it nonetheless.

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

Oh, I remember that game. Did you know its actually a Sega SG 1000 game. It won't run on the Mega Drive 2 I beleive via a Master System converter because it lacks the SG-1000 suport that the original Mega Drive has.

@ThomasMatthewByrne

5 жыл бұрын

Retro Core No, I wasn’t aware of that - very interesting. It was the only game that the rest of the family would avoid - even the sound effects annoyed them.

Phantasy Star and Wonder Boy 3: The Dragon's Trap are some of my favourite video games. Up there with Super Mario Bros 2 & 3, Mega Man 4, Castlevania 3, Sonic 3&K, Phantasy Star 4, Tomb Raider The Last Revelation, Spyro 3, Crash 3, Crash Team Racing and Mario Kart 8 deluxe, DS & Double Dash.

I never got one of these, in Argentina were kinda popular too, but never mainstream. I wish you the best for the new year Mark, thanks for your love and dedication in each one of your videos!

A really great vid thanks Mark, I love the master system because after Atari 2600 and Philips g7000 it was just amazing. I remember my mother taking me out to inspect a second hand machine plus games in someone's living room. He put on Choplifter and I was sold right there. Best Xmas ever as it came with 12 games including powerstrike,secret command,the ninja,ghost house amongst others.

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

The parallax scrolling on chopper lifter was amazing back then. It really showed the power of the Master System.

A new retrocore about a great system just in time for the holidays? Excellent. Even though I got a NES as gift when young, and didn't get a SMS until after getting a Genesis, it was still worth the purchase: the mastser system still has my favorite (tied with the game boy though) version of Double Dragon, a fun version of Shinobi, the excellent Phantasy Star, and, though I hate to admit it, I probably played Rambo the most...

Always good to see some more Master System stuff on KZread! I still gotta bolster my collection up... and make more space for those games in my drawer.

My first console! Yet another great video. I can tell you that this was definitely the 8 bit console of choice in Australia. Many of us were still playing it well into the 90s. Merry Christmas all.

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

I think Nintendo just didn't care for Australia, NewZealand or Europe. Stupid them. Even in the days of the SNES and N64 the Nintendo customer service and product availability was pathetic.

@georgeschannel9411

5 жыл бұрын

@@RetroCore So true. Sega definitely had a massive lead in the PAL territories, which is why I'm still angry at them for blowing it all...alas it's not easy being a SEGA fan lol

The Master System was my first Sega console and really opened my eyes to the quality of their home releases. I still play a few of these games. Great review. The world owes you a great debt for showing off the super underrated Master System and its huge library.

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, sam torres. I will revisit the Master System in a future show. There's still so much to show.

i remember Sega Master System 8 bit in 1986 & 2018 biggest memory i remember the games and the year master first came out oh my god , it was not a bad console the list of sega games history outrun shinobi Space harier black belts after burner Alex kid wonder boy rambo👍 double dragon👍

One of my favorite consoles. Not wanting to start anything, but Master System was superior to NES in almost every tech spec. If you compare the few games which were released for both systems, in 90% of the times they were better on Master System.

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

There's no doubt that the Master System is far more powerful than the NES.

I got my Master System on Christmas 1989. Merry Christmas and a happy new year for you and your family.

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

And a Merry Christmas to you too, Doug.

I love this system . I grew up on Yu Susuki’s Hang On masterpiece .

Well done! I love the Sega Master System and like you I got mine for Christmas. I can still remember being amazed at playing Space Harrier 3D in actual stereoscopic 3D in the 80's! Some impressive stuff. I now have a Power Base Mini FM for my Sega Genesis so I can now play and hear the FM enabled Master System games as they were originally intended. Keep up the great work and Merry Christmas!

I saw one of these for the first time in a SEARS long ago when i was 7 and remember being very perplexed by the dpad shape, but very happy too see a home port of altered beast, after that i did not see one until i was 17 dating an older girl going too college in Maryland at johns Hopkins Her family was from Salvador so now that i know more about Tectoy in Brazil it makes sense now. She had a fetish with Knife collecting which really freaked me out haha. Merry Christmas MARK

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

Knife collecting? now that's something unusual. you wouldn't want to upset that girl much.

Geez this takes me back, used to love playing Vigilante and Renegade, awesome games. Remember the ultimate bane of existence on the console, Asterix, bloody hard game and felt like it would never end lol. Great video as always Mark

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

I've heard about the Astrix game but never played it.

The Sega Master System was very popular in Brazil!

My first console, got the deluze package with 3d glasses and light gun. My parents did not have alot of money, so it was amazing. I also played Double Dragon with my brother so many times Bst games are: -Shinobi -Wonderboy III That said, the pc-engine is light years ahead of the Master System That echood voice over was funny Shinobi bonus screens annoying? The music is great especially FM and you need to learn how to play it. I really like toying with those flying ninjas and then destroying them. The gameplay is so great that you can cancel out of any move like the chain or nun-chaku for instance

@frankschneider6156

5 жыл бұрын

Dbn Poldermans The PC-Engine is also my favorite 8-Bit console, but iirc it came out a lot later than the NES and even SMS, close to the release of the Genesis (and holding up quite well with the 16.bit systems).

@vasileios6301

5 жыл бұрын

Pc engine is not a true 8bit console but a hybrid one. It has indeed an 8bit cpu but also 2 16bit ''gpus'' that make a huge difference.

I loved afterburner as a kid even though it gave me motion sickness.

Variations of master system soundchips are: Texas Instrument SN76489 PSG used on western master system and Yamaha YM2413 used as a peripheral on the japanese mark III and built in to the japanese master system

You should also have talked more about and showed some footage of the first SMS Zillion game, it's an awesome game, super enjoyable to play. I had an SMS III compact in the early '90. I'm Brazilian and I watched the anime when I was a kid, and I could finally listen to the original songs (actually the full album) some years ago because of KZread. I always wanted to play Ys, but I didn't understand English back then, when I was nine. Now that you mentioned it, I'm kinda willing to play it and the Phantasy Star games as well. Good thing is, there're Brazilian Portuguese Phantasy Star ports! Thanks for your video, it brings me good memories. Have a nice one!

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

I'm lucky enough to own the Zillion soundtrack on record. I just love the Pure Stone track. We sing it in Karaoke sometimes.

From morocco i still own my master system with games i have like 100 games en loose now i love sega the first games i played for this system in 80s is hang on sonic

It was my first console after having a c64. I admit the nes was better overall but I have to say the graphics and arcade games on master system to this day are wonderful and have nes beat in that department. Great memories. Spellcaster especially was a unique game with a top down perspective at the end.

One of my favorite systems to play and collect for, I absolutely love it! Criminally underrated in the States, I wish to god I had known about it when I was a kid but alas, I didn't even know it existed back then! I actually owned a Game Gear and had no idea I was playing what was essentially a portable Master System! If I had known of its existence as a kid I would certainly be an even bigger fan of it. I especially wish I had a chance to play Phantasy Star as a kid as it probably would be my favorite game of all time right now if I had. As it stands now it is on my top 5 list.

Double Dragon on the master system love it too I have good memories playing with family friends

My first console. I love it. I recieved it as a present with alex kidd and california games and my sister bought transbot . I loved those games. at least once every year I plug it to a tv and get a dose of nostalgia. As always great video and I'll be waiting for the next one! Happy Christmas and happy new year!

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

The Master System was always part of my childhood. Even after I had sold mine my youngest brother got a Master System 2. I remember playing sonic on it. A Merry Christmas to you too.

@adamyates3580

5 жыл бұрын

Never liked California Games until I played the SMS version.

This is your best production yet Mark. I also got the Master System in 1988 for Christmas. Yes, it was totally the losers system here in central Wisconsin, USA. I remember inviting this other kid over to play Double Dragon and he replied, "I'd rather play Atari than stupid Sega!" Obviously, he'd never tried it. His loss. I really only knew one other kid around here too trade games with, but I was always a stern supporter of the underdog. Besides, all my other friends had a NES, so if I wanted to play that, I'd just go to their houses! I do regret selling seven of my original collection, but I had no understanding of collecting/value/rarity back then...

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

Your friend would rather play Atari than Sega? Man, no accounting for good taste there 😋. Thanks for watching.

@AlienExorcist

5 жыл бұрын

For sure. Needless to say, I never asked that kid to hang out again. I was just inviting everyone over to play two player Double Dragon back then. Good game or not, everyone was irate that the NES DD was single player. The whole novelty to the arcade game was the simultaneous two-player action. We didn't even complain about the flicker on SMS!

Hey mark the master system/mark 3 came ships with Texas Instrument PSG soundchip. The SN-76489 soundchip has 3 voice and 1 noise generator it also used on ibm PCJR, Coleco Vision, BBC Micro, Sega SG-1000, Neo Geo Pocket Color, Mega Drive, Sega Pico, Game Gear, Tandy 1000, and Texas Instrument TI-99/4A Computer. You can improve master system sound by using the fm sound unit that have Yamaha YM2413

Love the improved\extended intro - at least double the systems/games as a previous video of yours i watched (possibly from several months ago) Great memories! Happy Holidays 🎄🎐🌠

mark I have never owned or played the Master System. I have played the games on my Mega Everdrive though, and enjoy them. You have given me an appreciation of it. I think I will pick one up in the future. Great video as always!

The Sega Master System Mark? What a great way to enjoy Christmas Eve with this AWESOME unit. Well done choice my good man. 8^) Anthony..

Awesome video!!!! I never had a Master System growing up, but about 10 years ago I grabbed one and started collecting games. Really loved it, very underrated!!

There was a lot of advertising for this back in the day in Argentina, the master system shown on then looked exactly like the japnese one, I think. I remember a special deal or somesuch wich included the gun, the 3d glasses, and afterburner. And sonic was built in the machine aswell! I really wanted that, but my parents weren't big on videogames, so I ended up getting a pc a few years later. None of my classmates had a master system, they either had famiclones or (eventually) genesis or snes.

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

I wonder how popular the Master System was in Argentina? I guess it was one of those items only the wealthy could afford. Probably why famiclone were so popular.

Your accent and voice is perfect with consoles reviews

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

❤️ why i bought this machine ⁉️ the color palette, far better than the NES 😜

I had both, the Sega Master System II and the Nintendo Entertainment System :D

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

Best of both worlds.

Hey Mark, I love your work and dedication. Glad to be on of your Patreons since today :)

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much, Ransom Curbersmith. I'm happy that you are enjoying the channel.

Wow! Never saw Aladdin on the SMS. It looks incredible. With FM sound it could almost have passed for a 16-bit game. Thank you for this retrospective on the Mas'stem :) Hope you've had a great Christmas.

@jbmaru

5 жыл бұрын

Those TecToy models look cool, but are the 6-button pads there just for show? Or does SFII make use of them?

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

Nah, they're just for show. I'd imagine the double up as rapid fire buttons.

Excellent retrospective, Mark! Fell in love with the Master System when I played it at a friend's house back in 1991.

Ahhh, my first ever console! I have a real soft spot for the Master System, and I still enjoy collecting for it. Aladdin was a game I only really played recently. Fun game, if rather easy thanks to it's unlimited continues. I played a lot of Shinobi back in the day, to the point where I could beat it on one life. The Master System port of Castle of Illusion even managed to be better than it's already excellent Mega Drive counterpart, and also spawned it's own exclusive sequel, Land of Illusion. Also a great game! Also, nice job in showing a few games I've never even heard of. Both Machine Gun Joe and Super Racing are both completely new to me, and it's great discovering new things like these. Great episode, looking forward to the next one, and merry Christmas!

Hi, just bumped into your channel I guess because of the title, the SMS is my favorite console ever! Nice video! Congratulations and Merry Christmas from Brasil!

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas. I hope you enjoy the channel. There's a few Brazilian viewers here.

Great video mate, the Master System was my first console and the first machine i bought myself, i am shore i was like 14 when i got it and i had a job on the side and used to go to Cardiff every week and by a game for it i loved the Master System and still do. The Master System is were i got my love YS series, Rasten and Wonder boy in monster world are my favorite games on the machine and that Rastan came out on the MSX its doesn't scroll its screen by screen but its pretty much the same game from what i have played. Any way loved the vid and have a nice Christmas and new year.

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Rastan on the MSX is based upon the Master System version but it's much more basic looking with monochrome sprites and screen by screen scrolling.

I love that Ceramic White PS2 Slim in your intro! Definitely my favourite looking version of the PS2, just wish they weren't impossible to find here where I live.

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

I heard even in Japan the ceramic white PS2 slim is rare. I had no idea. I bought that one because it would play Initial D 😊

grew up with a Famiclone (in Brazil), playing with SMS at friends houses. Now, Im convinced it kicks NES ass

The master system/mark III is the successor to the SG-1000. The SG-1000 and the master system are both used the VDP and the soundchip as the master system the PSG also implemented to the Genesis/mega drive

my cousins who lived in another state had the Master System, I was fascinated that it came with Hang-On built into their console, and I thought the graphics were impressive. Great episode!

The master system was amazing. I was amazed by how durable the system was. Ive droped numerous times and it keeps on working. Cant say the same for my first PS2. One tilt over and read disc error. Great show.

First of all, fantastic work. Your enthusiasm for the system was clear. Also, what great timing. Just a few weeks ago, after watching Conan the Barbarian on DVD, I had the urge to play some Rastan which led to me playing a whole bunch of Master System, which was a lot of fun. I'll get back to that. I'm from the US, but I was one of those kids that ended up with a Master System for some reason. The NES was already popular, though it was still fairly early on, as I think I got the SMS in 1987. I was quite happy with it. Replaying a bunch of SMS games recently, I actually came to the conclusion that the early SMS library is better suited to my taste than the early NES library. Most of my favorite NES games are not among the early ones, and are from about 1989 and later. For example, I had Rambo for SMS (Ashura in Japan and Secret Command in Europe) and it seems pretty advanced for a top-down, run-n-gun game made in 1986. I find it more fun than Commando or anything else similar from that time period. So looking back, I feel lucky to have had the SMS during that period. You covered most of my favorites. My mom surprised me with Rastan when it was relatively new. I was familiar with the arcade game, but I had no idea it was on SMS and was shocked to see a Taito-branded game. I loved it and played it a ton. It was a little odd going back to it at first, but I got used to it and found that it held up nicely. Shinobi was another favorite. It's my favorite console port of the game due to the PC Engine version missing too much stuff. It would have been amazing with a larger HuCard. I loved Double Dragon as well and I still like that it's more like the arcade game than the NES version. I also played it with my brother, but he was worthless for anything that wasn't a sports game. I also really liked Penguin Land. Thanks to an emulator and save states, I was finally able to play through the whole thing during my recent time playing SMS. I finally got my money's worth on that one 30 years later.

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

Seems like you really liked your Master System. It sure was an impressive bit of kit for 1985. It was kind of the Xbox One X of its day. The most powerful game console but lacking 3rd party suport.

Great video I grew up with Sega starting from their Arcade games then getting my Sega Master System and have been Sega boy 4 ever thanks for the video Mate from Australia

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

I have to admit that it was Sega's SpaceHarrier that got me hooked on Sega and that was what drove me to want a Master System.

@thehumbleone1983

5 жыл бұрын

Me also space harrier and after burner plus golden axe plus many more thank you

Didn't own one as a kid since I'm from Costa Rica where the NES was just as popular as it was in the US back then. However I was always intrigued by ads and reviews in old magazines like Game Players and EGM and really wanted to give it a try not knowing the GameGear I used to play at a friend's house was for the most part the same system in portable form. Thankfully emulation came into play at some point and I experienced many games that way. I Curently own a Japanese model CIB and a modified US version with an FM module and an Everdrive (got them like 10 years ago). Thankfully western releases still have the code for FM sound and will play it as long as the hardware is detected/present in the system.

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

I always found it funny that many of the Western releases with FM sound never actually got a Japanese release. Games such as Vigilante and GALAXY Force.

Xenon II sounding good as ever!

New Retro Core for Xmas Fuck yes Was hoping for a new episode :)

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

Santa has delivered 🎅

Ninja gaiden was (still is) awesome...europe and Brazil exclusive though...

Great stuff Mark. Have a great Christmas mate.

Call me crazy but to me the Master System is the greatest 8-Bit console ever. I simply LOVE the color pallete (later enhanced in Game Gear) and smooth scrolling It features, ahead of the NES poor specifications. Can you imagine the amazing games Konami and Capcom would do for It?

@johns6265

5 жыл бұрын

I'll call you crazy. The PC-Engine was a lot, lot better and had an absolutely fantastic catalogue of arcade conversions.

@frankschneider6156

5 жыл бұрын

rockmanhunter Have to agree with John S. Imho the PC-Engine (Turbographix in the US) was a lot better than the SMS and far less well known outside of Japan. Nonetheless I'd appoint the title of most underrated system to the Colecovision. Relatively unknown to non-retro gamers, but just look at the graphical difference between it and the 2600. That was a giant leap. Doesn't mean that the SMS is not indeed a great system. The NES, the SMS and the PC-Engine were all outstanding systems, unfortunately most people just seem to remember the weakest (the NES) and then only the Mario stuff on it.

@rockmanhunter

5 жыл бұрын

Compared to the PC-Engine, the Master System is inferior, but it's not very known and popular as the SMS, specially here where I live. I agree PC-Engine has so MANY great original games and conversions (and very wide color pallete ) and I love It as well, but the choice is ultimately by preference, and not based *only* on technical specifications.

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

Let's not forget that the Master System is 1985 tech. Much older than the PC Engine.

@rockmanhunter

5 жыл бұрын

Indeed. From 1985 up until the PC-Engine's launch, the Master System was the most advanced console, beating the NES (and Its sound with the later FM Sound Support), MSX and the european computers.

Awesome, hope you have a fantastic Christmas and a happy new year :)

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks SUBHUMAN .COM USA. You too!

@subconscious.com_usa6691

5 жыл бұрын

@@RetroCore Thanks buddy :)

That first tune sounds like the Blakes 7 theme.

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

It does a little 👍

Growing up in Canada, as a kid absolutely nobody I knew had one of these things. I was curious about it because it was advertised pretty heavily in my area during cartoons, and I knew R-Type, Space Harrier & Shinobi were cool. But from reading North American magazine coverage, I was convinced for years that it was a weaker machine than the NES. It seemed like it was always being described as the little machine that couldn't. Looking at it now, seeing how many more colours per sprite it can manage and characters in general being larger, it makes me wonder how that ever happened. But I read recently that Sega of America initially only had two guys in its marketing department, and after Tonka took over I'm sure they had little understanding of how to play the PR game in the tech space. Europe really lucked out with Virgin picking it up, a company who absolutely knew how to get things in front of people and make them look cool. But when you consider that Sega of Japan dropped the system entirely when the Mega Drive launched at the end of 1988 (seriously, only one game, Bomber Raid, trickled out after that in Feb. '89), the 5 years it lasted in North America almost doubled its Japanese life span. So maybe it wasn't so bad in the big picture after all.

@RetroCore

2 жыл бұрын

Sadly the Master System bombed in the US but I also think that had something to do with Nintendo's bully like tactics with shop owners and publishers.

@philmason9653

2 жыл бұрын

​@@RetroCore ​While Nintendo were indeed corporate mobsters, I don't think Sega helped their own cause. If Sega had a fatal character flaw in that period, it was absolutely them cheaping out all over the place at the height of Japan's economic bubble. Mark Cerny mentioned they were only allotted a 3 month dev cycle for games, and were under a lot of pressure. And you mentioned in another comment their refusal to spend on enhancement chips. I've also read in exec interviews that Rosen simply wasn't interested in pursuing other people's games for their hardware. As draconian as Nintendo were, there was still a mountain of arcade & PC games still out there to be had. You can see it was only when they launched the Mega Drive in 1988 that they finally figured out how the game had to be played. All of the JP Master System's 3rd party & licensed (R-Type, Double Dragon, Ys) titles only appeared from spring to December '88. Given that the MD was announced that June, I'm sure these things are connected.

The Master System is a nice system, I myself have a PAL model 1 system with a 50/60hz switch . Its a shame the 2nd model of the system lacked an RGB port , as the SMS 2 often had Alex Kidd or Sonic built in. While my SMS library is fairly small , I do have my favourites like Phantasy Star, Sonic and Ninja Gaiden (Europe only of course)

As someone who wasn't born during the 8 bit era and that has had to discover and investigate these console line ups, I think the MS is good, has some pretty good games that are worth checking out, and it helps that they are so colorful, though I reall hate it's PSG sound 90% of the time, however the main issue is that it doesn't have that many games, it's not Jaguar levels or something like that but it just doesn't have as many games as other classic systems, and it doesn't help some of the good games it had were ports of super scalers games or games that were also on the Mega Drive and that while good for the hardware, are just not more than a curiosity at least for me, and that reduces the number of worth playing games even more; it would have been interesting to see how games made by Capcom, Square, Chunsoft, SNK, Sunsoft, Hudson, Technos, Konami or Rare would have been for it, but that sadly just didn't happen thanks to Nintendo's awful monopoly at the time. Also, I have never read that MS sold more than 20 millions, all sources say it sold over 10 millions, where did you get that information?

@RetroCore

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, the lack of 3rd party support really hurt the Master System. It's a good machine but as you said, lacks software.

A really great video Mark, keep up the good work 😊👍

Iconic 8-bit system. My favourite game so far: Wonder Boy.

Lovely system with good games. Love Sega!

Wot no Master of Darkness? God I loved that game, and this console.

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe in a follow up video 👍

I enjoyed my Master System when I had it, and certainly made the most of my local rental shop to pick out classics that I ended up buying later on - it's actually one of the reasons I'm contemplating getting a Mega Sg when Analogue release them :D

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

If I didn't own original hardware I'd also go for the Mega SG.

@Karnage316

5 жыл бұрын

@@RetroCore My original Master System is still here somewhere, but any TV capable of taking the RF lead I have is long since gone :P

The way most developers utilized the Master System's sound chip hurts. That said, I do have my favorites. Black Belt(The US version of Hokuto no Ken), Rastan and Shinobi being among them. Also, you're partially incorrect about Zillion. Some of it did get dubbed into English, and got aired on obscure US networks in the mid 90s(And of course released to VHS), when the Anime boom really started to take off here. A selection of Season 1 episodes, and the OVA Burning Night was dubbed by Streamline Pictures.

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, that's true about Zillion but that was years after the game got a release.

@SomeOrangeCat

5 жыл бұрын

​@@RetroCore True. I only knew about it AFTER the Genesis was released, because I saw it in a Sears Christmas catalog, being listed as a lower priced alternative to the Genesis. They were advertising the same games for both systems in a two-page spread. Altered Beast, Golden Axe and Sonic the Hedgehog. Clever marketing. "My kid said they want a Sega something! Oh, this one is cheaper, but it has the same games!" was probably uttered by at least a few parents and grandparents.

Great Video and great machine!!

Just added Aerial Assault to my SMS library. Was not a mistake. So far my fav SMS shmup. Dream games to get are; Power Strike, SOR 1&2, Sonic games.

I had a cousin who had an SMS, and I loved it. I was surprised I never saw one in the wild and never could pick one up though - it wasn't until, maybe, the mid-90's that I was clued into Nintendo's monopoly shenanigans with their anti-competition policies that kept games off the SMS (and also forced stuff like the Konami/Ultra situation so publishers could put out more games on the dang system). Nowadays I got a couple SMS games for Retro clone consoles, but I tell ya - after seeing that TecToy variant with Sonic on it at 5:31, I kinda wanna nab a legit console. I _knew_ it was more popular elsewhere, but I didn't know some of the licensors like TecToy and Samsung made some different shells for the hardware. That's pretty cool. Anyway, Merry Christmas! Looking sharp in that tux too. Thanks for the great videos!

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

Haha, that's my normal suit for work, not a tux. Thanks though. In Korea the Master System was known as the Aladdin Boy. Funny name.

Zillion was very famous here in Brazil, every boy wanted a zillion gun 🔫.

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

Even the bad guys wanted one. I think it was 3 years ago where a Brazilian guy was holding his family hostage with a Master System light gun 😂. Im sure a Google search will bring up the pictures.

VERY informative! Thanks very much.

@RetroCore

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching.